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[ElectroClaret]

Should be two.
Everton defence all over the place.

[ThaiClaret]

You're possibly/definitely right Rileybobs.

[KRBFC]

I’m quite confident that on an individual basis the majority of this Everton 11 would get into our team;

Pickford - definitely
Mykolenko - definitely
Tarkowski - definitely
Branthwaite - no
Young - possibly
Danjuma - possibly
Gueye - definitely
Doucoure - definitely
Onana - definitely
McNeil - possibly
Beto - definitely

Gueye from 8 years ago certainly, he’s pap these days.

We don’t have a left back so Young/Mykolenko get in by default, they’re not good though.

I know Burnley fans have a love in with Tarkowski but he’s nothing more than a really bang average lower Pl level central defender in reality. He will never hit the heights of some the lads we have now in his position.

[ksrclaret]

Everton are just so, so bad with the football at feet. These players are miles better individually than the ones Dyche had here as well.

[ThaiClaret]

I wont mention it again but Dwight has done absolutely nothing of note in this game.

He has hardly done anything at all.

Barely a significant contribution.

Hardly touched the ball in the attacking third.

Dyche can't think this is the best use of his talents

[ksrclaret]

Gueye from 8 years ago certainly, he’s pap these days.

We don’t have a left back so Young/Mykolenko get in by default, they’re not good though.

I know Burnley fans have a love in with Tarkowski but he’s nothing more than a really bang average lower Pl level central defender in reality. He will never hit the heights of some the lads we have now in his position.

Crikey.

The likes of Al Dakhil and O’Shea will count themselves very fortunate if they have a career like Tarkowski’s.

[Vegas Claret]

The following criteria should be used, as appropriate, as indicators that a player was in control of the ball and, as a result, ‘deliberately played’ the ball:

The ball travelled from distance and the player had a clear view of it
The ball was not moving quickly
The direction of the ball was not unexpected
The player had time to coordinate their body movement, i.e. it was not a case of instinctive stretching or jumping, or a movement that achieved limited contact/control
A ball moving on the ground is easier to play than a ball in the air

I'd say at least 2 of those are met in that particular incident. Either way it's been given but it's an interesting debate

[Carwin261]

I’m quite confident that on an individual basis the majority of this Everton 11 would get into our team;

Pickford - definitely
Mykolenko - definitely
Tarkowski - definitely
Branthwaite - no
Young - possibly
Danjuma - possibly
Gueye - definitely
Doucoure - definitely
Onana - definitely
McNeil - possibly
Beto - definitely

There midfield is dreadful wouldn’t swap any of ours for theirs

[Vegas Claret]

I wont mention it again but Dwight has done absolutely nothing of note in this game.

He has hardly done anything at all.

Barely a significant contribution.

Hardly touched the ball in the attacking third.

Dyche can't think this is the best use of his talents

first start of the season, been out injured. He's going to struggle when nobody can pass to him

[ThaiClaret]

Very solid good Prem player is Tarks.

[jos]

Millwall …

https://twitter.com/dorsethottub/status ... 16iFm-sBpw

[taio]

Imagine thinking that Tarkowski wouldn't displace O'Shea

[JimmyRobbo]

4 mins for Everton is laughable.

[aggi]

Thought there would have been a lot more than 4 minutes injury time.

[ThaiClaret]

Dwight must have been told not to go chasing the ball and stay clise to the FB.
He's not even particularly good defensively.

[Taffy on the wing]

Pantomime in the bottom left corner...............hilarious stuff from Arsenal.

[KRBFC]

Crikey.

The likes of Al Dakhil and O’Shea will count themselves very fortunate if they have a career like Tarkowski’s.

O’Shea I’ll give you, Al Dakhil is a teenager in Belgiums national squad. A level Tarkowski struggled to reach in his absolute pomp.

[Blyclaret]

Dyche definitely getting well fed. Looked very chunky today.

[mdd2]

4 mins added time a joke
4.34 mins played an even bigger joke
Bet it would have been different had it been 1-0 to Everton with Arseholes chasing the game

[Carwin261]

Poor old Sean is he ever going to get to manage a team of silky footballers? Everton are a mirror image of us a few years ago ,absolute dross.

[Murger]

Everton wouldn’t have scored if they’d played 4 hours of injury time. Absolutely turgid stuff.

[Stayingup]

O’Shea I’ll give you, Al Dakhil is a teenager in Belgiums national squad. A level Tarkowski struggled to reach in his absolute pomp.

But he's not Belgian!!!

[Swizzlestick]

There midfield is dreadful wouldn’t swap any of ours for theirs

I’d be having Onana and Doucoure in a breath.

[taio]

But he's not Belgian!!!

He's a Belgian citizen and plays for Belgium

[Vegas Claret]

Millwall …

https://twitter.com/dorsethottub/status ... 16iFm-sBpw

that's the most exercise he's had in a long time, boing boing boing

[ThaiClaret]

Everton's Full Back played Saka really well.

Pencil him in the team sheet

[Greenmile]

He's a Belgian citizen and plays for Belgium

I think he meant Tarkowski.

[taio]

I think he meant Tarkowski.

Oh yes, of course!

[Carwin261]

I’d be having Onana and Doucoure in a breath.

Can’t imagine what they’d bring to us Doucoure is dreadful ,at least we have a young team and hopefully they’ll improve as the season develops,can you really imagine any of the Everton team improving this season? we might after alter our set up to be slightly more defensive but I reckon Benson ,Zaroury,& Koleosho have more flair in their big toes than all of the Everton squad.

[Stayingup]

4 mins added time a joke
4.34 mins played an even bigger joke
Bet it would have been different had it been 1-0 to Everton with Arseholes chasing the game

Whatever the FA do they seem to make the wrong call. They could do to learn something from rugby here. Stop the clock when the ball is out or there is an injury - whatever - and finish the game after 90 minutes on the clock.

[Stayingup]

Oh yes, of course!

Al Dakhil has good potential of course. But he has a way to go to match Tarkowski. Who was superb for us.

[equinox]

I know Burnley fans have a love in with Tarkowski but he’s nothing more than a really bang average lower Pl level central defender in reality. He will never hit the heights of some the lads we have now in his position.

Probably the best Burnley player since the 60's, deserves much, much more respect than you are offering.

[taio]

Al Dakhil has good potential of course. But he has a way to go to match Tarkowski. Who was superb for us.

I totally agree.

[jrgbfc]

Don't think the Evertonians will put up with playing like that much longer. Set up like a lower league team hoping to nick a result in a cup tie.

[Carwin261]

Probably the best Burnley player since the 60's, deserves much, much more respect than you are offering.

That’s a big claim to make ,better than Waldron,Phelan and Thomson? and they were playing against old style centre forwards who new how to get stuck in.

[Stayingup]

Probably the best Burnley player since the 60's, deserves much, much more respect than you are offering.

That's because he hasn't got much idea about defending in a Sean Dyche Burnley team.

[Vegas Claret]

Imagine thinking that Tarkowski wouldn't displace O'Shea

he would make a massive difference to our side, I probably didn't appreciate him when he was here as much as I should have done.

[CoolClaret]

Al Dakhil has good potential of course. But he has a way to go to match Tarkowski. Who was superb for us.

The Dyche era revisionists are so tiresome.

We’re filled with young talent right now but some posters/fans act like we’re miles ahead of what we were.

If people genuinely think O’Shea has more to his game than Tarkowski then let’s not bother. Mee is a standout performer for Brentford as well.

[warksclaret]

That’s a big claim to make ,better than Waldron,Phelan and Thomson? and they were playing against old style centre forwards who new how to get stuck in.

I have seen Waldron, Phelan and Thompson all play in a Burnley shirt. Tarks as a defender and CH is far the better. The game is much faster and technical today and Tarks at his peak (when we finished 7th) got into the England team. For me he is probably the best Burnley CH since our great team of the late 50's /early 60's

I thought Everton were poor today however they defended magnificently against a great Arsenal side with only one save needed by Pickford. Arsenal's goal was sensational and Everton could easily have grounded a point but for that strike, which would have been undeserved

[Boss Hogg]

Probably the best Burnley player since the 60's, deserves much, much more respect than you are offering.

Way off imo

[Stayingup]

The Dyche era revisionists are so tiresome.

We’re filled with young talent right now but some posters/fans act like we’re miles ahead of what we were.

If people genuinely think O’Shea has more to his game than Tarkowski then let’s not bother. Mee is a standout performer for Brentford as well.

What has Dyche got to do with it? Tiresome? grow up.it you thats tiresome and possibly suffering from some form of amnesia.

I agree we have a some young talent but they have a way to go yet. With regards to Tarkowski he also was a standout performer in our years in the Premier League and todays young talented squad will do well to emulate that.

[claret2018]

That Everton performance was turgid and I almost feel sorry for their fans having to watch that every week.

Almost certain they’ll go down this season.

[CoolClaret]

What has Dyche got to do with it? Tiresome? grow up.it you thats tiresome and possibly suffering from some form of amnesia.

I agree we have a some young talent but they have a way to go yet. With regards to Tarkowski he also was a standout performer in our years in the Premier League and todays young talented squad will do well to emulate that.

Eh?

I was in agreement with you.

The dyche era revisionists is people that now **** on anything/everything to do with our team and players back then.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

If the grand old team forum put some tactics or advice on there instead of moaning after every match they might have a chance changing their fortunes.

Wonder which foreign manager is being lined up for this takeover? Probably someone from Spain.

[Stayingup]

That Everton performance was turgid and I almost feel sorry for their fans having to watch that every week.

Almost certain they’ll go down this season.

They have been lucky to escape relegation a couple of times now and yes probably deserve to go down. BUT their squad doesn't have the players to compete with Arsenal and given the money they have spent in, for example, the Lampard and Ancelotti eras, its bad management. The same can be applied to Man U.

[beddie]

Al Dakhil has good potential of course. But he has a way to go to match Tarkowski. Who was superb for us.

I’d agree with that and have said previously that we’re missing a player of his quality and experience to not only guide our young team but to show strong leadership in that position, something I really think we currently lack.

[aggi]

O’Shea I’ll give you, Al Dakhil is a teenager in Belgiums national squad. A level Tarkowski struggled to reach in his absolute pomp.

Football is littered with promising youngsters who got called up to the international squad but never made it.

Hopefully Al Dakhil will go on to surpass Tarkowski rather than the next John Flanagan but it's very early to make that call.

[boatshed bill]

Football is littered with promising youngsters who got called up to the international squad but never made it.

Hopefully Al Dakhil will go on to surpass Tarkowski rather than the next John Flanagan but it's very early to make that call.

Did Flanagan play at international level?

[Bordeauxclaret]

He did. Just the one cap.

[boatshed bill]

He did. Just the one cap.

Amazing
Is he still playing?