Everton match thread

[warksclaret]

No doubt they would have lost too , but I sense a League 1 side would have given Everton a tougher game tonight. You dont need to be Pep to know Palace's game plan Saturday

[Taffy on the wing]

One absolute certainty is we look miles better with Muric in goal.

[Casper2]

By far the best. Larsen didn't do anything all game... Redmond decent and hard working.

Not a big fan of Muric so renowned style of goalkeeping and passing. The ones crying for him can tone down.

Cork and brownhill drowned... Robert came in for a tired and beat vitinho and actually managed to perform worse.

Still can't blame the guys who started the game I thought they gave it all they got. For me Burnley is a better team than Everton and we will beat them the next game.

[Anthonini]

Didn't think we played anywhere near as bad as the last two games. Scoreline flattered them but they certainly didn't have to work hard for it. Poor in our own 6 yard box. Will ultimately be out downfall if we don't fix it.

Muric showed us exactly what we've been missing. So much better building out from the back. Shame we couldn't go do anything with it.

On to the next.

You got to be joking about Muric?

[claretgimmer]

It feels like to few players have any affinity with the club, just players looking for a good payday and a bit of exposure in England

[CoolClaret]

Think about it
Your all crying out for Muric,you got him.
Nothing has changed its still shite.

The one thing we’ve said is that our playing out from the back is better with him.

Tonight verified that.

The centre halves/set pieces are atrocious

[Swizzlestick]

You got to be joking about Muric?

Why would he be joking? He’s spot on.

[Newcastleclaret93]

One absolute certainty is we look miles better with Muric in goal.

Haha better at what? ******* about more at the back

[ClaretAL]

They should have won by 5/6 tonight if there finishing was better.

You really are a piece of work. Go watch another team if you only see the bad in our team We were massively better than we have played recently. That doesn’t mean we were perfect or the finished article, just better.

[Pickles]

One absolute certainty is we look miles better with Muric in goal.

We did but I think a bit of it was because Everton didn't press as high as Trafford's experienced. Instead Dyche just let us **** about with it, knowing full well we'll eventually give it away.

[LowtonClaret]

I'm done. Enjoy it

[alboclaret]

You would think that one of the best defenders we’ve seen could sort his defence out

I cant remember after which game , maybe spurs, where company said he's not concerned about the defensive issues as they are easy to sort out....

[Rileybobs]

Didn't think we played anywhere near as bad as the last two games. Scoreline flattered them but they certainly didn't have to work hard for it. Poor in our own 6 yard box. Will ultimately be out downfall if we don't fix it.

Muric showed us exactly what we've been missing. So much better building out from the back. Shame we couldn't go do anything with it.

On to the next.

We played better than the last two but created less and conceded with the same ease. I wouldn’t get too seduced by how we played tonight, Everton just sat off us, let us pass the ball around and waited until we inevitably gave it away cheaply and dangerously before pouncing in numbers. Lots of the ‘lesser’ teams will do that this season as we have a soft underbelly and can’t create anything against an organised 11. If the opposition is disciplined against us they are almost guaranteed 2 goals and more than likely a clean sheet.

[Ampth7]

Incredible to think how good we were last season, and how poor we have become this season! I understand confidence will be low at the moment, but where is the fight, desire, willingness to work?? Just a bizarre experience watching us at the moment, and something has to change and quick or Mr Pace will be forced into making a change.

[Pommieclaret]

Love to know why we didn't sign Tella, Taylor HB and Mattesan probably would have cost 50-60 mil

[Leyland Claret]

This must be one of the worst Burnley teams since the days of Waddle. In fact I think I would rather have Blatherwick and Howey as our defensive pair now!! This season is spiralling out of control and I don’t know when it will stop.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Penny for Pace’s thoughts

[Darthlaw]

One absolute certainty is we look miles better with Muric in goal.

Considering Trafford has been slated for the number of goals we concede and being detrimental to our play, how has 3-0 and 1 shot on target shown this? Everton barely pushed on and it shows that Muric really only had one save to make.

Can keep saying it but the GK is not the problem in this team.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You really are a piece of work. Go watch another team if you only see the bad in our team We were massively better than we have played recently. That doesn’t mean we were perfect or the finished article, just better.

Honestly ClaretAl you are just delusional

Everton literally sat back an let us have the ball. We did nothing.

Worst performance of the season for me. There supposed to be a relegation rival and they literally treated it like a pre season friendly

[Tonto]

You would think that one of the best defenders we’ve seen could sort his defence out

Absolutely spot on ,yes we have had injuries but every game to wait for the defence to make some sort of f##k up

[stateofthenation]

Al Dakhil

He’s had some poor games this season but Christ… tonight was a masterclass of how not to defend.

[ClaretAL]

Haha better at what? ******* about more at the back

FFS DO ONE!!! You won’t be happy until someone says Trafford is amazing. He is a good keeper but Muric fits our style better and it showed tonight.

[Spiral]

Could be just Dyche deciding to let us play in as much as we like in our defensive third, but we didn't cause ourselves trouble all night with dogger GK passing for a start, so that's one in the Muric column.

[Jacob Rees Dogg]

No Cullen on Saturday. Be interesting to see who VK picks in the midfield. I’m of the opinion he needed dropping anyway as he’s really struggling (probably just not good enough). Maybe time to give Massengo a go.

[Vincent'sCap]

The one thing we’ve said is that our playing out from the back is better with him.

Tonight verified that.

The centre halves/set pieces are atrocious

If that had been a league game,Everton would have put some effort in and hit us for 6.
We are shocking can't see where a win is going to come from no matter who stands in goal.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Xg tonight

Everton 2.16 Vs Burnley 0.07

[KRBFC]

The one thing we’ve said is that our playing out from the back is better with him.

Tonight verified that.

The centre halves/set pieces are atrocious

Individually those defenders are atrocious, not sure how you change that whilst Ekdal and Beyer are out.

[Spiral]

Xg tonight

Everton 2.16 Vs Burnley 0.07

Literally never seen an xg that low.

[ksrclaret]

Xg tonight

Everton 2.16 Vs Burnley 0.07

Oh my god

[KRBFC]

Honestly ClaretAl you are just delusional

Everton literally sat back an let us have the ball. We did nothing.

Worst performance of the season for me. There supposed to be a relegation rival and they literally treated it like a pre season friendly

To be fair that was their first 11 against a makeshift team.

[Carwin261]

You really are a piece of work. Go watch another team if you only see the bad in our team We were massively better than we have played recently. That doesn’t mean we were perfect or the finished article, just better.

Better coming out from the back ,the rest was just as dire as most of the season ,I think VK got a bit confused saying we’d get better every game ,City was probably the best we’ve played all season,at least we tried,we’re shite.

[Rileybobs]

Watching people desperate to defend their positions on Muric is pathetic. What’s become of you all?

[Taffy on the wing]

Haha better at what? ******* about more at the back

I'm not surprised you can't see it......you're wrong about almost everything!

[ksrclaret]

We can’t even score 1/10th of a goal

[Conroy92]

Penny for Pace’s thoughts

I'd rather have him back in the net

[jedi_master]

Individually those defenders are atrocious, not sure how you change that whilst Ekdal and Beyer are out.

Only option for me is to stick Cork in there for O'Shea - at least a bit of leadership at the back. I know it's not his natural position but to at least get one of these two out of the team it has to be an option.

[CoolClaret]

Individually those defenders are atrocious, not sure how you change that whilst Ekdal and Beyer are out.

Probably have to play a three like we did against City

[warksclaret]

The Muric v Trafford debate is the least of our worries.The mistakes and poor defending are still there in abundance, with the coaches and team shot of any confidence

[Hedontplayforyou]

Didn't think we played anywhere near as bad as the last two games. Scoreline flattered them but they certainly didn't have to work hard for it. Poor in our own 6 yard box. Will ultimately be out downfall if we don't fix it.

Muric showed us exactly what we've been missing. So much better building out from the back. Shame we couldn't go do anything with it.

On to the next.

They bullied us and could have had another 3 .

[fidelcastro]

To be fair that was their first 11 against a makeshift team.

Was it a makeshift team?

No one knows who's playing from one game to the next.

[Spiral]

Watching people desperate to defend their positions on Muric is pathetic. What’s become of you all?

At least some of us are doing some defending Get O'Shea reading the forum, show him how it's done.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Oh my god

Here’s another one for you,

In our last three games against Brentford, Bournemouth and Everton and we have managed a grand total of 5 shots on target

[boatshed bill]

Love to know why we didn't sign Tella, Taylor HB and Mattesan probably would have cost 50-60 mil

I'm not convinced that either Tella or Maatsen wanted to sign.
I'm not convinced that THB would have been a massive improvement on what we have.

[KRBFC]

Only option for me is to stick Cork in there for O'Shea - at least a bit of leadership at the back. I know it's not his natural position but to at least get one of these two out of the team it has to be an option.

No idea they’re an absolute calamity. We’ve nothing from full back with Delcroix and Vitinho either.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I'm not convinced that either Tella or Maatsen wanted to sign.
I'm not convinced that THB would have been a massive improvement on what we have.

I think he would have given us some leadership at the back

[DCWat]

Penny for Pace’s thoughts

10,000,000,000 pennies for Pace’s thoughts.

[Pearcey]

We’ve had years of having a ‘strong jaw’ and now we’re more like Amir Khan. I’m all for nice football but you need some organisation to go with it when you’re a small club in the premier league.

[JR1882]

Didn't think we played anywhere near as bad as the last two games. Scoreline flattered them but they certainly didn't have to work hard for it. Poor in our own 6 yard box. Will ultimately be out downfall if we don't fix it.

Muric showed us exactly what we've been missing. So much better building out from the back. Shame we couldn't go do anything with it.

On to the next.

Score line didn’t flatter them one bit, they had 2 good chances at the end that they didn’t take. We were an absolute shambles tonight. Can’t defend. Can’t attack.

Onto the next - with Muric hopefully. Vinny is cutting his nose off to spite his face because he is a cut above 100% there’s just Vinny can’t see it.

And yes I went tonight, currently racking my brains to remember us having a shot, we made them look like City.

[Belgianclaret]

Incredible to think how good we were last season, and how poor we have become this season! I understand confidence will be low at the moment, but where is the fight, desire, willingness to work?? Just a bizarre experience watching us at the moment, and something has to change and quick or Mr Pace will be forced into making a change.

How about an unsurmountable gap in class between the championship and the PL ??

[DCWat]

I think he would have given us some leadership at the back

Leadership from a youngster is OK when you’re winning. Quite how he would have coped in the situation we now find ourselves in, I’m not sure.

This team needs an older, experienced head at the back, a quality defensive midfielder and a pair of full backs.

Build a foundation to play from and we might be somewhere near.