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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:44 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:43 pm
My original question was "why today"
No it wasn't !

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:45 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:42 pm
Is he?
Maybe not

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:40 pm
I never applaud them off at home because I leave immediately but I find it hard to believe you thought we deserved to win.
Tony have you twisted that? The poster said we didn't deserve to lose and you posted he said he thought we deserved to win. That is clearly a misrepresentation is it not?

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:40 pm
I never applaud them off at home because I leave immediately but I find it hard to believe you thought we deserved to win.
He didn't say we deserved to win

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:50 pm

Tony clearly has an agenda

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by ClaretAL » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:40 pm
I never applaud them off at home because I leave immediately but I find it hard to believe you thought we deserved to win.
Horses for courses but I thought we were by far the better team and absolutely should have put our chances away and won today

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Sharbtastic » Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:52 pm
You only have to see Oderbert's response on social media to a Burnley fan to understand why support if never counter productive.
Which platform? Interested to see what he said..

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:07 pm

Sharbtastic wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:59 pm
Which platform? Interested to see what he said..
Looks like a private message in Instagram, 'ballwithollie' posted it on twitter. Just shows support makes a difference, Trafford must have a thick skin
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:15 pm

Beyer at the end is why I applauded and sang. He was upset at the error and held his hands up in apology. There was no lack of fight or desire today.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Sharbtastic » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:38 pm

Definitely got to keep getting behind the players.
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:40 pm

The atmosphere was generally good today and the fans got behind the team, even immediately after conceding the first. I was disappointed to hear boos at full time.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:47 pm

xxmunkyennuixx wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:15 pm
Beyer at the end is why I applauded and sang. He was upset at the error and held his hands up in apology. There was no lack of fight or desire today.
Spot on.

No lack of fight or desire at all.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:47 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:40 pm
The atmosphere was generally good today and the fans got behind the team, even immediately after conceding the first. I was disappointed to hear boos at full time.
That was shocking.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:40 pm
I never applaud them off at home because I leave immediately but I find it hard to believe you thought we deserved to win.
Its a little sad that the guy who runs this forum cant tell the difference between not losing and not winning but for someone so consumed by their own self opinion and importance its really not that surprising

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by taio » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:40 pm
I never applaud them off at home because I leave immediately but I find it hard to believe you thought we deserved to win.
I find it hard to believe you never applaud them off.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:20 pm

Goobs wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:03 pm
I left when the 2nd went in. Seen enough this season. It's the same stupid errors week after week. Got a season ticket and honestly not sure if I will go on again in 2023.
Seriously what are our fans? God given right to be in the PL and if the team is struggling in the toughest league in the world then you won’t support them anymore by attending. Brilliant fair weather
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:21 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:20 pm
Seriously what are our fans? God given right to be in the PL and if the team is struggling in the toughest league in the world then you won’t support them anymore by attending. Brilliant fair weather
Irony
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by clive40golf » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:23 pm

Every player put every once of effort they had into trying to win this game. They came up short, but they definitely deserved me clapping them off. Anybody who thinks that our team didn’t try their hardest and played for the shirt needs to give their heads a wobble.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:24 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:21 pm
Irony
I was there every home game under Cotterill, win lose or draw. I’d have been there in the 3rd and 4th division too if I wasn’t born too late. The irony is the manager I attended the least under was SD, in the PL.

Keep trying though

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:25 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:24 pm
I was there every home game under Cotterill, win lose or draw. I’d have been there in the 3rd and 4th division too if I wasn’t born too late. The irony is the manager I attended the least under was SD, in the PL.

Keep trying though
Yes, that's the irony

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:29 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:25 pm
Yes, that's the irony
Surely attending every home game when the club is least successful then not going as often once in the PL is the opposite to being a fair weather glory hunter fan?

How would some of you lot cope under Cotterills reign, I fear the worst

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:31 pm

Through thick and thin an all that
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Big Vinny K » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:29 pm
Surely attending every home game when the club is least successful then not going as often once in the PL is the opposite to being a fair weather glory hunter fan?

How would some of you lot cope under Cotterills reign, I fear the worst
And where does jumping on this board at 5pm on a Saturday to tear into Dyche after burnley lose fall under this definition of a “fair weather glory hunter fan” ?

Just wondering like.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:32 pm

You know the season is dreadful when Cotterill is getting brought up as a barometer of one’s level of fandom.

Just need ‘87 Orient game for a full house now.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:36 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:29 pm
Surely attending every home game when the club is least successful then not going as often once in the PL is the opposite to being a fair weather glory hunter fan?

How would some of you lot cope under Cotterills reign, I fear the worst
It's ironic because you spent years saying the most awful things about Dyche and the players because you decided you didn't like the style of football, and openly admitted to not attending anymore.

Now, because you do like the style of football, you've had a personality transplant.

Just have a little bit, even just a teeny weeny bit, of self-awareness sometimes.
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:45 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:32 pm
And where does jumping on this board at 5pm on a Saturday to tear into Dyche after burnley lose fall under this definition of a “fair weather glory hunter fan” ?

Just wondering like.
Now you’re just doing your usual thing of making stuff up for a petty argument. I went through spells with Dyche, like in his first PL season my gripe was with the boards lack of backing.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:12 pm

good and honest manager trying his utmost to instill fight and confidence into his under fire team. A very young team at that, trying to find their feet in a cauldron of a division. A manager who understands what is needed, has a vision, and empathises with the supporters.
Overcoming this, he gets a fighting performance, those stats are relevant (although I hate stats) but when genuine fans see effort, it is rightly applauded. well done Burnley. well done VK.
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Big Vinny K » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:45 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:45 pm
Now you’re just doing your usual thing of making stuff up for a petty argument. I went through spells with Dyche, like in his first PL season my gripe was with the boards lack of backing.
Looks like it’s not just me who remembers it is it ?

Just own what you did rather than deny it. And when you call out fans for not getting behind the team now don’t be surprised to be reminded that there was nobody on this forum more critical of the most successful manager the club has had in decades than yourself.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:56 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:45 pm
Looks like it’s not just me who remembers it is it ?

Just own what you did rather than deny it. And when you call out fans for not getting behind the team now don’t be surprised to be reminded that there was nobody on this forum more critical of the most successful manager the club has had in decades than yourself.
I own it, just stating the truth you don’t wanna hear. Let’s not act like I was slagging off Dyche after his first promotion. I wasn’t slagging off Dyche during the Stephens season farce either. You have selective memory.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Belial » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:10 am

Yes we lost. Yes there were some errors again, but:

The lads are still young and learning, and they put a shift in today. The effort was there and that's what deserves supporting.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:17 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:56 pm
I own it, just stating the truth you don’t wanna hear. Let’s not act like I was slagging off Dyche after his first promotion. I wasn’t slagging off Dyche during the Stephens season farce either. You have selective memory.
So you didn’t slag off Dyche for 2 out of 8 or 9 seasons

Spoken like a true claret

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Ric_C » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:23 am

I clapped them off as I thought they needed a bit of support after a fairly solid display.

Those booing after the second goal are thick as pig ****, as it was a hail Mary from O'Shea that gave them the goal.

Being a supporter is about getting behind the team wherever possible, and not slagging them off at every opportunity.
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by KRBFC » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:24 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:17 am
So you didn’t slag off Dyche for 2 out of 8 or 9 seasons

Spoken like a true claret
It was more than that, I was pretty balanced in my view overall, just vocal and you chose to just remember the negative opinion I voiced. I certainly gave him longer than 11 PL games.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Exsus » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:55 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:52 pm
Horses for courses but I thought we were by far the better team and absolutely should have put our chances away and won today
I thought they contained our attacking threat comfortably and were easily the better team

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by KRBFC » Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:46 am

Exsus wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:55 am
I thought they contained our attacking threat comfortably and were easily the better team
Not sure what game you were watching, they didn’t string 2 passes together all afternoon, we shot ourselves in the foot and we’re a little blunt in attack.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:59 am

Exsus wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:55 am
I thought they contained our attacking threat comfortably and were easily the better team
I agree with your first part palace were quite happy to sit back & protect the lead but we were the only side looking to make something happen, well we had to but despite that the saves Johnson had to make it was really bread & butter stuff for him.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Boydesque » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:47 am

If you didn’t you obviously didn’t watch the last 3 games because most of em put a shift in there

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:59 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:12 pm
good and honest manager trying his utmost to instill fight and confidence into his under fire team. A very young team at that, trying to find their feet in a cauldron of a division. A manager who understands what is needed, has a vision, and empathises with the supporters.
Overcoming this, he gets a fighting performance, those stats are relevant (although I hate stats) but when genuine fans see effort, it is rightly applauded. well done Burnley. well done VK.
Great post

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:03 am

Ric_C wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:23 am
I clapped them off as I thought they needed a bit of support after a fairly solid display.

Those booing after the second goal are thick as pig ****, as it was a hail Mary from O'Shea that gave them the goal.

Being a supporter is about getting behind the team wherever possible, and not slagging them off at every opportunity.
Another great post.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:14 am

The other reason for why to clap them off, on top of the 100 reasons already mentioned, is that they have had bloody bad luck from start to finish this season and I feel for them.

The injuries to many key players, the fixture list, the bad ref or VAR decisions and the benefits other teams have had (e.g. Forest are 1 pt and Bournemouth 2 pts better just from bad decisions against us alone, and yesterday Sheff Utd got handed 2 extra pts in the 100th minute for a penalty that wasn’t a penalty).

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:09 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:19 pm
WHY
Because we played very well, with 1 mistake unfortunately disguising a performance that just lacked the end product
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Kilson810 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:48 am

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:43 pm
You obviously know nothing
Tell me, what is incorrect about the statement? We lost 2-0 at home to Palace, which was a crucial game given our current situation and we would not have scored if we played until midnight.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Murger » Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:19 am

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:09 am
Because we played very well, with 1 mistake unfortunately disguising a performance that just lacked the end product
We didn’t play very well at all. Palace were shite and didn’t get going. Yet here we are at the end of yet another loss.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Robbie_painter » Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:54 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:40 pm
I never applaud them off at home because I leave immediately but I find it hard to believe you thought we deserved to win.
What a **** post that is.Ban me again I don’t care,some of you either have very short memories or are recent ‘prem’ fans.Get behind this side or you will ruin them.
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Bertie2015 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:59 am

I threw handfulls of my own faeces at them at the end of the game. They'll definitely play better next time

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Bowclaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:00 am

Thought our young team performed very well and Yes, we deserved to win. I saw effort, sweat, skill and passion from my team yesterday and I also saw heart i.e Beyer - he was gutted !

We are close to getting it right and when key players return I am sure we will be fine.

I applauded my team off yesterday and also applauded our FANTASTIC Manager.

That is WHY
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Goobs » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:08 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:17 pm
Good, stay away, but I know a supporter who would have your ticket if you're serious and not just saying it for effect
Was possibly a bit of a drunken overreaction on my part however I have already given my ticket away for 2 of the 3 games as I can't make them so it only leaves the West Ham game in 2023 anyway.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:12 am

I have no problem applauding these players off the pitch. I looked at the team sheet and knew this team was going to lose, I'm sure like many Clarets and the players.

But despite that I thought they came out and showed lots of willing, spirit and determination to win the game and never gave up. I thought there was 20 minutes against Everton in the first half where we looked like a real side.

And yesterday there was so much to applaud but the team selection was wrong and the lads had no chance of winning. Lots of players look like they are talented but are woefully short in so many areas. In particular, Amdouni who does not appear to have the experience to play the number 10 or advanced midfield role: both difficult roles. And of course Kolosheo, who has little end product.

The consequence was that we had very little end product and not much cohesion up front although we had enough of the ball that had we a quick player with a an eye for goal we may have nicked one but sadly Foster wasn't playing.

I just don't know how long you can go on playing like this against teams that barely seem to bother to get out of second gear to win.

I thought it was ironic that for most of the afternoon Everton were beating a much better team than Palace 1-0 with 18 per cent possession and we were losing to an out of form Palace side without their better players 1-0 with 65 per cent possession. Ultimately, it was better - much better - but still woefully short.

In answer to the question: why yesterday? I think it was because, collectively, we all now know the truth of the situation and yet the players showed a lot of willing and that deserves some response from the fans.

For some, it's taken far far too long to reach a conclusion that was painfully obvious from very early on but still I think the players have much to commend them.

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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by DocSavage » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:14 am

I stay and clap the players off, I never leave early or boo, what sort of a message does that send. Yes it’s disappointing but we have to show some solidarity and get behind the team
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Re: Clapping the player's off today

Post by Goobs » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:16 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:20 pm
Seriously what are our fans? God given right to be in the PL and if the team is struggling in the toughest league in the world then you won’t support them anymore by attending. Brilliant fair weather
Not sure where I said we had a right to be in the PL and you are the last person who should be calling anyone when they say something negative.

I will admit I had been drinking when I made my original comment and it was a little bit of an overreaction. However we are so far from being competitive at this level it is frustrating and depressing. The recruitment in the summer was way off what was needed and the fact the manager persisted to keep Jay on for the full game when he was little more than a passenger all day was both baffling and infuriating.

Hope that clears it up.
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