Clarets vs West Ham

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:58 pm

soon as we scored we stopped playing and invited pressure and we know what happens next , also bad defending for 2nd Jay just lost is man .

Anthonini · Post by **Anthonini** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:58 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:58 pm
7 straight home defeats mate - I think it's fair if some have criticism

Said the nr 1 shitposter out here

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:59 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:58 pm
I doubt it

Well, never mind, ignorance is bliss (as well you know)

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:59 pm

Absolutely gutted, played really well if we hadn’t of lost every home game prior we probably see that game out. Can’t fault the team or manager there at all, gave everything.

Florian · Post by **Florian** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:59 pm

willsclarets wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:52 pm
Just put a month's salary on us conceding late in either half and you'll be a billionaire

They were 50 to 1 in play

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:00 pm

Anthonini wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:56 pm
Oh great another week of retarted criticism for VK and Trafford.

To be fair Kompany made a howler with his changes, and Trafford well that first goal beaten at your near post after having virtually nothing to do

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:00 pm

SGr wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:56 pm
This season may go down in history as a lesson in how quickly it’s possible to burn all the capital you build up in one go. Kompany related.

Were you one of those saying we would fall through the leagues 2 seasons ago? I doubted it then and I doubt it now.

The capital will still be there. Short term pain with a long term gameplan is acceptable and frustrating.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:01 pm

Shaggy wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:00 pm
To be fair Kompany made a howler with his changes, and Trafford well that first goal beaten at your near post after having virtually nothing to do

Was it another mistake? didnt see the game.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:01 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:59 pm
Well, never mind, ignorance is bliss (as well you know)

Thought you had manners , obviously not

SydneyClaret · Post by **SydneyClaret** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:01 pm

Played really well for about 75 minutes, then sat back and let West Ham have a go which cost the game. Some wild shots today as well that really should be at least on target.

We just can’t cut a break but we definitely lack experience. VK looked down and out at the end of the came. Pace looked angry. I never thought I’d say this but I think we might be looking for a new manager.

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:01 pm

Anthonini wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:58 pm
Said the nr 1 shitposter out here

I’m certainly nowhere near the top of that list, and there is no one in the organization above criticism right now. Pretty sure the beer sellers have a share of the blame at this point.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 pm

Anthonini wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:58 pm
Said the nr 1 shitposter out here

Let me guess , Green hair?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:01 pm
Was it another mistake? didnt see the game.

It was a deflected own goal from about 3-4 yards out 🫣

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 pm

weeeeeeeee first one spotted

Petersa · Post by **Petersa** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 pm

Anthonini wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:56 pm
Oh great another week of retarted criticism for VK and Trafford.

Trafford djdnt do a lot wrong today IMO he still isnt good enough but the tactkcs...one up needing to close it down so we bring on Ramsey ....another lightweight option to add to the othrrs already stealing a wage grt yhat clueless manager out snd get someone in who understands PL management and tactics ALAN PACE PULL YOUR FINGRR OUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:59 pm
Absolutely gutted, played really well if we hadn’t of lost every home game prior we probably see that game out. Can’t fault the team or manager there at all, gave everything.

Other than we aren’t good enough

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:03 pm

Up until utd we'd been brave, but naive. Since then we've been naive, but bollockless.
I'll say again rabbits win nothing in this league.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:03 pm

SGr wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:56 pm
This season may go down in history as a lesson in how quickly it’s possible to burn all the capital you build up in one go. Kompany related.

Might go down as one of the worst starts to a premier league career in history for VK.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:03 pm

At this point id try Tresor in the nets, his name would look lovely against that black strip

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:03 pm

Definitely can fault the manager KRBFC. Brownhill was playing really well centrally with Berge then for some reason moves him to the right. Poor decision.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:04 pm

Win for Luton

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:04 pm

Petersa wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 pm
Trafford djdnt do a lot wrong today IMO he still isnt good enough but the tactkcs...one up needing to close it down so we bring on Ramsey ....another lightweight option to add to the othrrs already stealing a wage grt yhat clueless manager out snd get someone in who understands PL management and tactics ALAN PACE PULL YOUR FINGRR OUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

What are you talking about? He took a forward off and brought ina midfielder. We even brought Cullen in. We tried shoring it up which cost us the game ultimately.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:04 pm

Anthonini wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:58 pm
Said the nr 1 shitposter out here

Rich coming from a guy that thinks the moon landings were a hoax.

Anything but a 'shitposter' - just not a lemming.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:05 pm

Poor game management and poor management at this level unfortunately

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:05 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:01 pm
Thought you had manners , obviously not

So your insults are fine, but you can't take a tongue in cheek retort; one which your original response to my eternal optimism certainly deserved.
Manners is a two way thing.

equinox · Post by **equinox** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:05 pm

This defeat will unfortunately overshadow some encouraging individual performances, particularly from Berge, who I thought was the best player on the pitch.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:06 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:05 pm
So your insults are fine, but you can't take a tongue in cheek retort; one which your original response to my eternal optimism certainly deserved.
Manners is a two way thing.

Go away

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:06 pm

I feel a lot better for not having watched the game i must say

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:06 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:02 pm
Other than we aren’t good enough

I can accept that as a newly promoted team we might not be good enough. Just gutted we came away with nothing after the effort and quality we put in.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:07 pm

Either Cullen and Larsen should have been brought on before Ramsey to strengthen midfield when we were clearly under pressure
Poor decision from VK

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:07 pm

equinox wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:05 pm
This defeat will unfortunately overshadow some encouraging individual performances, particularly from Berge, who I thought was the best player on the pitch.

Berge was excellent, as was Gudmundsson.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:07 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:06 pm
I can accept that as a newly promoted team we might not be good enough. Just gutted we came away with nothing after the effort and quality we put in.

The newly promoted excuse doesn’t cut it anymore

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:08 pm

tally wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:55 pm
Vinny looked despondent at the final whistle

Has Frank Lampard written all over this, we need to act and act fast

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:08 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:07 pm
Either Cullen and Larsen should have been brought on before Ramsey to strengthen midfield when we were clearly under pressure
Poor decision from VK

I actually think Cullen coming on was one of the big reasons we collapsed. Completely messed up the structure of the team

Robbie_painter · Post by **Robbie_painter** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:09 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:01 pm
Was it another mistake? didnt see the game.

No

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:11 pm

West ham 2 shots 2 goals. Not blaming keeper but you know the problem when 3 defenders hug Trafford after he punches an away a standard cross that by the way he should have caught. His earlier flap was quite funny unless you are a Clarets fan. Thought Amdouni had his best game. Saw flashes from Ramsay and Berge was magnificent. But it looks to me that our Manager has lost the plot especially with our subs. If Ekdal is not fit why is he on the bench. The chairman and his family do not look happy and neither am I or are the thousands who left before the end. Rick bottom and deservedly so

WazzaClaret · Post by **WazzaClaret** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:11 pm

Pathetic how much footy effects your mood, feel sick

Petersa · Post by **Petersa** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:12 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:04 pm
What are you talking about? He took a forward off and brought ina midfielder. We even brought Cullen in. We tried shoring it up which cost us the game ultimately.

Rubbish..a forward who at least was an outlet, Cullen replaced JBG for the MOM upto that point, dreadful tactics and did Cullen contrjbute anything? not that I saw

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:12 pm

Chris Waddle is free should we give him a call?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:13 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:06 pm
Go away

Enjoy your evening

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:13 pm

WazzaClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:11 pm
Pathetic how much footy effects your mood, feel sick

Reminds me of Cotterill , was really bad for the health that era

Kilson810 · Post by **Kilson810** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:15 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:00 pm
Were you one of those saying we would fall through the leagues 2 seasons ago? I doubted it then and I doubt it now.

The capital will still be there. Short term pain with a long term gameplan is acceptable and frustrating.

What is the game plan? Just curious as I can't see one.

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:15 pm

We had the better of the game and still couldn’t win. We are just powder puff and weak.

Kompany made some bad subs today aswell.

As bad as we are someone like fst sam with a January cheque book could get us out of this.

Carlos the Great · Post by **Carlos the Great** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:15 pm

Things are going to have to change .:: especially in our defence /::Luton who have spent nothing are pulling away from us

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:16 pm

Good effort but let down by odd substitutions. Amdouni and JBG were the wrong 2 to take off.
Good to see we’d worked out how to defend corners.
Cruel result

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:17 pm

Shaggy wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:15 pm
We had the better of the game and still couldn’t win. We are just powder puff and weak.

Kompany made some bad subs today aswell.

As bad as we are someone like fst sam with a January cheque book could get us out of this.

I agree it looks like we are going down with a whimper with VK in charge, bought the completly wrong team after hitting the jackpot last season.

We need someone with prem experience of a relegation battle to try and keep us up with some defensive targets in his arsenal to at least loan in. get a proper keeper between the posts not some kid.

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:17 pm

That result is 100% on Kompany. Horrendous substitutions and tactical tweaks that cost us the game.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:18 pm

Shaggy wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:15 pm
We had the better of the game and still couldn’t win. We are just powder puff and weak.

Kompany made some bad subs today aswell.

As bad as we are someone like fst sam with a January cheque book could get us out of this.

He’s the last person anyone should want at our club

Stu · Post by **Stu** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:20 pm

Why he took Amdouni and Koleosho off baffles me .

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:20 pm

No doubt about it, we are bang in trouble! Leaking goals for fun and don’t really look like scoring makes for a disaster which is happening every game now.

Short term, I can’t see us avoiding relegation now. Longer term, do we stick or twist with the manager in the hope that we bounce back again the following season having learned some valuable lessons? Sacking VK now may or may not save our season, and who would we get to replace him?

Either way, I wouldn’t want to be in Pace’s position right now!!