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Awful

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:35 pm

No inventiveness on the ball, poor performances all over the park, really. Never hurt them.
We were never in it and wouldn't have scored if we'd played til next Saturday. I had high hopes for the players we signed, but some of them are looking woeful.
Six points off safety, but can't really see where the next points are coming from.

Thats why we're going down.

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Re: Awful

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:39 pm

Utterly dreadful. We can’t keep being out of games so early on.

I hope I’m wrong, but I fear for Vinny. I think Pace and Co. might start getting twitchy bums.

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Re: Awful

Post by burnley007 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:40 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:39 pm
Utterly dreadful. We can’t keep being out of games so early on.

I hope I’m wrong, but I fear for Vinny. I think Pace and Co. might start getting twitchy bums.
But who comes in?

I have a feeling Pace will be looking into options now...
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Re: Awful

Post by JBR » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:41 pm

Can’t complain if he gets sacked after that they have obviously downed tools.
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Re: Awful

Post by burnley007 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:43 pm

JBR wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:41 pm
Can’t complain if he gets sacked after that they have obviously downed tools.
I felt that some players had given up today. Especially Brownhill.

I wonder if something has happened behind the scenes this week

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Re: Awful

Post by WazzaClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:44 pm

I don't think anyone can keep us up with this squad. The mistake was creating pretty much a brand new 11 after an unreal season. All I know is vk has shown he can do it in the championship. We're going down regardless now I feel so may as well see this season out, forget about it and go again next season with major lessons learned.

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Re: Awful

Post by bf2k » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:45 pm

Look. People. Just enjoy the ride. Forget the scores. We’re being punished for errors but these are very young players with bags of potential. Just enjoy the ride and look forward to these lot getting better and wiser next season.
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Re: Awful

Post by JBR » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:45 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:40 pm
But who comes in?

I have a feeling Pace will be looking into options now...
I bloody hope so
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Re: Awful

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:46 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:45 pm
Look. People. Just enjoy the ride. Forget the scores. We’re being punished for errors but these are very young players with bags of potential. Just enjoy the ride and look forward to these lot getting better and wiser next season.
Yawn.
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Re: Awful

Post by JBR » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:46 pm

They let Keane score, absolutely criminal

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Re: Awful

Post by JBR » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:48 pm

Just to top it all off the female Mark Chapman 🙈

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Re: Awful

Post by burnley007 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:48 pm

Do we have a plan in a game?

I can't see any smart play, clever movement.

It's just the same crap over and over

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Re: Awful

Post by NewClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:49 pm

For starters, I want to keep Vinny. Nothing good will come from sacking him.

That said, that performance was indeed awful.

No directness, no urgency, no speed, JBL’s crossing was WOEFUL.

Most annoying thing for me was that corner when need a goal. Utterly dreadful.

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Re: Awful

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:49 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:45 pm
Look. People. Just enjoy the ride. Forget the scores. We’re being punished for errors but these are very young players with bags of potential. Just enjoy the ride and look forward to these lot getting better and wiser next season.
If I wanted to watch a game of young players trying to fulfil their potential I would go and watch the youth team.
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Re: Awful

Post by NewClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:49 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:45 pm
Look. People. Just enjoy the ride. Forget the scores. We’re being punished for errors but these are very young players with bags of potential. Just enjoy the ride and look forward to these lot getting better and wiser next season.
I agree with this to some extent.

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Re: Awful

Post by JBR » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:50 pm

Nearly as awful as Izzy Christensen talking about football
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Re: Awful

Post by Sheedyclaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:52 pm

JBR wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:50 pm
Nearly as awful as Izzy Christensen talking about football
Don’t tell joey Barton ffs

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Re: Awful

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:52 pm

we created quite a few chances and opportunities. Can't defend for **** though

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Re: Awful

Post by northernpowerhouse » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:53 pm

It's sad to say this but things aren't going to get better with Kompany in charge. His style of play fundamentally doesn't work with these players in the PL. You can't expect to score every goal with a short passing move, starting in defence and ending with a tap in in the opposition box. We're not Man City. Put Jackson or Bellamy in charge of this team, they'll switch up the style of play and we'll be better for it.

Anyone saying "Kompany knows the Championship, let's go down with him" is kidding themselves. Carry on like this and he'll lose the dressing room long before that.
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Re: Awful

Post by KRBFC » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:53 pm

No manager saves this lot, you act like VK can just clap his hands and Dara O’Shea turns into Sergio Ramos. Or he claps his hands we suddenly become better defensively.

The truth and reality is, a lot of these players simply are not good enough for this level and most never ever will be.

You can cry all you want about Muric or Trafford but the truth is neither are good enough at commanding their box.

You can use players not starting to hammer VK, pretend Larsen is some brilliant player who’s hard done by to not start. That is until he starts and you’re faced with reality, he’s bang average and not good enough.
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Re: Awful

Post by JBR » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:53 pm

Sheedyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:52 pm
Don’t tell joey Barton ffs
Tell it like it is

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Re: Awful

Post by GaryClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:54 pm

I understand the comfort it gives to say “we’ll win the future” but 1. will it actually happen? and 2. What about people paying good money now to watch this?

After last season it should have been better than this.
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Re: Awful

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:55 pm

VK is our best chance , talk of sacking him is nonsense
He needs backing and supporting not abusing
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Re: Awful

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:58 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:55 pm
VK is our best chance , talk of sacking him is nonsense
He needs backing and supporting not abusing
Why is he our ‘best chance’?

No one is bigger than the club.
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Re: Awful

Post by bumba » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:59 pm

We create nothing everything is so slow and backwards all the time, our first thought is to give it to the defence or keeper.
Everton(DYCHE!!) played it out from the back on a few occasions a few passes from there own box and they was flying down our wings, we can't press everything is unbalanced, weak and predictable
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Re: Awful

Post by WazzaClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:59 pm

It's reyt, we'll beat Fulham 😎

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Re: Awful

Post by KRBFC » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:00 pm

We’ve took a punt on hoping we can bring in some unproven relatively cheap players and mould them into a competitive team at this level and it hasn’t worked YET.

Always going to be a tough ask building a PL team from scratch to survive within such a short period.

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Re: Awful

Post by spt_claret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:03 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:49 pm
If I wanted to watch a game of young players trying to fulfil their potential I would go and watch the youth team.
Would see more wins too.

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Re: Awful

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:04 pm

JBR wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:48 pm
Just to top it all off the female Mark Chapman 🙈
Tbf she’s been bang on, I think she’s been good

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Re: Awful

Post by JBR » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:05 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:04 pm
Tbf she’s been bang on, I think she’s been good
The presenter, nepotism at its finest, Dalglish’s daughter
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Re: Awful

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:05 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:55 pm
VK is our best chance , talk of sacking him is nonsense
He needs backing and supporting not abusing
Scares me to think what would happen if we potted him, role on next year and trying to get promoted again

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Re: Awful

Post by getbennyon » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:07 pm

Outcoached by Dyche.

Completely out of his depth at this level, there's nothing to enjoy. Asking this team to stay in the Premier League is like asking children to swim the Atlantic wearing armbands.

This is the worst season in the history of Burnley Football Club.

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Re: Awful

Post by Sheedyclaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:08 pm

getbennyon wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:07 pm
Outcoached by Dyche.

Completely out of his depth at this level, there's nothing to enjoy. Asking this team to stay in the Premier League is like asking children to swim the Atlantic wearing armbands.

This is the worst season in the history of Burnley Football Club.
Can’t of been watching us long
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Re: Awful

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:10 pm

We are not even watching potential. Every player we have signed falls a long way short of being a PL player.
Of course some will argue about the merits of this player and that but the bottom line is this is one big mess

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Re: Awful

Post by getbennyon » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:11 pm

Sheedyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:08 pm
Can’t of been watching us long
8 points at Christmas

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Re: Awful

Post by kenyon6923 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:12 pm

The basic error is if you don't look like scoring at least 2 goals in most games you MUST setup to be difficult to beat. Except against another championship team the other week we have look easy to score against and found it difficult to create chances.
Principles and styles are fine IF you have the squad capable of doing that in this league - we have had enough games to prove we have,nt. Amazingly he needs to do the opposite of what we wanted SD to do !!!!!

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Re: Awful

Post by JR1882 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:12 pm

I don’t know what we are.

No good in possession
Not a pressing team
Can’t defend
Don’t create clear cut chances

Squads a mess, that was shocking today really. Teams literally need to do nothing to beat us.

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Re: Awful

Post by Mark the Claret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:13 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:52 pm
we created quite a few chances and opportunities. Can't defend for **** though
We created sod all

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Re: Awful

Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:14 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:45 pm
Look. People. Just enjoy the ride. Forget the scores. We’re being punished for errors but these are very young players with bags of potential. Just enjoy the ride and look forward to these lot getting better and wiser next season.
" Forget the Scores " ...isnt that kind of the point of professional football ?
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Re: Awful

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:17 pm

Worst performance of season. No fight or intensity and watching the same inept players who are nowhere near this level being picked week in week out Trafford, Vithinio, OShea etc.
Also a worrying trend of Kompany and his coaches not reacting to what is going on during the game in terms of substitutions. Has he made a sub this season that has had any impact on the game??

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Re: Awful

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:18 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:55 pm
VK is our best chance , talk of sacking him is nonsense
He needs backing and supporting not abusing
Best chance of what?

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Re: Awful

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:18 pm

getbennyon wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:11 pm
8 points at Christmas
Give over… we are a good side out of our depth at the moment, we’ve no bad players, just not good enough.

I’ve seen some shocking “players” at Burnley, none of these lot are bad players at all

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Re: Awful

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:18 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:45 pm
Look. People. Just enjoy the ride. Forget the scores. We’re being punished for errors but these are very young players with bags of potential. Just enjoy the ride and look forward to these lot getting better and wiser next season.
Was like watching a training ground exercise the majority of the 90 minutes today utter garbage.

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Re: Awful

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:25 pm

Mark the Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:13 pm
We created sod all
you must have had your eyes closed, we got in behind them at least 4 or 5 times and couldn't find the final pass, Amdouni shot, Foster header and all that is without me thinking about it. We got into better positions during outfield play than Everton did - we just can't match their physicality.

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Re: Awful

Post by superdimitri » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:25 pm

Bit of an over reaction. If not for the point reduction Everton would be on par with Brighton in the table. Anyone expecting a result against them is expecting too much.

We need to beat the sides who will be near us at the end of the season. If we can do that we'll stay up.

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Re: Awful

Post by theduke » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:26 pm

As bad as I can remember. Everton didn't break sweat.

Time for Vinny to go

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Re: Awful

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:28 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:25 pm
Bit of an over reaction. If not for the point reduction Everton would be on par with Brighton in the table. Anyone expecting a result against them is expecting too much.

We need to beat the sides who will be near us at the end of the season. If we can do that we'll stay up.
We’ll be at least 15 points adrift of safety at the end of the season.

We’re going down as one of the worst ever Premier League teams.
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Re: Awful

Post by AmbleClaret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:28 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:25 pm
Bit of an over reaction. If not for the point reduction Everton would be on par with Brighton in the table. Anyone expecting a result against them is expecting too much.

We need to beat the sides who will be near us at the end of the season. If we can do that we'll stay up.
That'll be Luton and Sheffield, saying exactly the same.

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Re: Awful

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:29 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:25 pm
Bit of an over reaction. If not for the point reduction Everton would be on par with Brighton in the table. Anyone expecting a result against them is expecting too much.

We need to beat the sides who will be near us at the end of the season. If we can do that we'll stay up.
Which would give us about 15 points, so no we wouldn't stay up.
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Re: Awful

Post by Mark the Claret » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:25 pm
you must have had your eyes closed, we got in behind them at least 4 or 5 times and couldn't find the final pass, Amdouni shot, Foster header and all that is without me thinking about it. We got into better positions during outfield play than Everton did - we just can't match their physicality.
Getting into positions but failing to find the final pass, isn't creating, it's failing

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