So regardless if it’s the right decision, dear me , don’t know why I even bothered asking
AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Just look at the state of that defensive “line”.
What do these guys practice in the training ground? Laughable.
What do these guys practice in the training ground? Laughable.
Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
A good half from us, but so weak in defence again.
Although a good finish from Amdouni, he’s been a peripheral figure again. A very good half from Foster, who’s been a real handful.
Although a good finish from Amdouni, he’s been a peripheral figure again. A very good half from Foster, who’s been a real handful.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Just do the honourable thing Kompany and resign!
Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Fair but we’ve also caused them lots of problems with our set up today. It’s a better pass from both Vitinho and Gudmundsson to release a player 1 v 1 and toe nail from Foster for the offside.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Foster is a class player. The shining light so far.
Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Think five yellows means he misses next league game. A straight red for anyone would mean they miss the spurs game I believe
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Think they’ve largely been fine. Villa’s threat has been out wide and cut backs into our box. Vitinho has been decent recently but struggled today, Taylor has been even worse and left a country mile of space to play Villa on for their second. Very frustrating as going the other way we’ve been brilliant.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pmNot sure what Delcroix and O’Shea have done wrong today?
Just seems like easy targets for some?
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Have a look at Foster’s foot - it’s massive - the pixels haven’t been kind to us
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
He let Watkins run right across him, unchallenged for first. He is very slow on the ball and he is struggling here.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pmNot sure what Delcroix and O’Shea have done wrong today?
Just seems like easy targets for some?
Delacroix , not sure, but the whole back line is so wide open to those through balls.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Give it a rest.Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:55 pmJust do the honourable thing Kompany and resign!
What would you have done differently?
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Do the honourable thing and stop posting ********Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:55 pmJust do the honourable thing Kompany and resign!
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Haha!Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:55 pmJust do the honourable thing Kompany and resign!
Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
getting to the point now where there's no point taking corners
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
This is just the tale of our season. Play some decent stuff but defensively we are just knowhere near good enough.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Based on above Foster doesn’t look offside ?
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
2-1 down at 2nd place Villa and performed at least as well as them from an attacking perspective….and you want Kompany gone?Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:55 pmJust do the honourable thing Kompany and resign!
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Agreed - the full backs have struggled and our midfield hasn’t been following runners back into the box.jedi_master wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:55 pmThink they’ve largely been fine. Villa’s threat has been out wide and cut backs into our box. Vitinho has been decent recently but struggled today, Taylor has been even worse and left a country mile of space to play Villa on for their second. Very frustrating as going the other way we’ve been brilliant.
Blaming O’Shea or Delcroix is just scapegoating at its worse for me.
Obviously this is a tough place to go - not anywhere near as bad as some are making out
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What a stupid post.Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:55 pmJust do the honourable thing Kompany and resign!
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Not giving away my expertise for free
Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Our inability to stop teams scoring soft goals against us is truly criminal
Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Strange one this. I think Gudmundsson has been poor today, I'd change him for Tresor.
At the back I think we've seen both sides of Vitinho, started well but has made some bad decisions on the ball.
Delcroix looks like a rabbit in the headlights right now.
The defence as a unit has been poor for both goals, but we're having a much tougher time on the left as oppose to the right. The second goal Berge has the runner but let's him go, can't really fault O'Shea but some will try too. The big mistake is not getting the offside right, which both full backs looked culpable for.
I actually thought up until their second goal we'd started moving the ball about with a bit more confidence. There's somthing here for us if we can cut the errors out.
At the back I think we've seen both sides of Vitinho, started well but has made some bad decisions on the ball.
Delcroix looks like a rabbit in the headlights right now.
The defence as a unit has been poor for both goals, but we're having a much tougher time on the left as oppose to the right. The second goal Berge has the runner but let's him go, can't really fault O'Shea but some will try too. The big mistake is not getting the offside right, which both full backs looked culpable for.
I actually thought up until their second goal we'd started moving the ball about with a bit more confidence. There's somthing here for us if we can cut the errors out.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
O’Shea allowed his player to collect the ball and the space to turn and run for their firstCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pmNot sure what Delcroix and O’Shea have done wrong today?
Just seems like easy targets for some?
Out of position for the second - but probably covering for Delcroix who was just watching
Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
If we can score 3 in the second half we might get a point. At least it sounds like we're causing problems. Are Ekdal and AAD fit? I can't understand how Delcroix can be in front of those two.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Is he not bored of letting in boat loads of goals yet?
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We’ve definitely improved in our overall play the last few weeks ,but how can an ex world class defender manage a team that’s so careless at the back?
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Delcroix is awful.boyyanno wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:58 pmStrange one this. I think Gudmundsson has been poor today, I'd change him for Tresor.
At the back I think we've seen both sides of Vitinho, started well but has made some bad decisions on the ball.
Delcroix looks like a rabbit in the headlights right now.
The defence as a unit has been poor for both goals, but we're having a much tougher time on the left as oppose to the right. The second goal Berge has the runner but let's him go, can't really fault O'Shea but some will try too. The big mistake is not getting the offside right, which both full backs looked capable for.
I actually thought up until their second goal we'd started moving the ball about with a bit more confidence. There's somthing here for us if we can cut the errors out.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Crazy, when you consider his left foot was in his own half.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Any way Come on Burnley!!!!
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Watch Delcroix on the second goal after the balls gone in behind him. He hasnt a clue. Any centre back worth his salt would have sprinted back and got into position around the front post area where he would have cut the cross out no problem.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pmNot sure what Delcroix and O’Shea have done wrong today?
Just seems like easy targets for some?
And no its not because hes an easy target. I dont really have any opinion on Delcroix, not seen enough of him but that was rank bad. As was his right footed pass straight to a Villa player before it when he really obviously should have punted it. I thought we were fairly solid centrally until he came on
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
We're still improving ......Delcroix is either very nervous or very crap, Villa are a top side.
Vitinho cannot pass a ball...we need better. Beyer too fragile?
Hopefully we can get some reinforcements in Jan.
Vitinho cannot pass a ball...we need better. Beyer too fragile?
Hopefully we can get some reinforcements in Jan.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Delcroix (as yet) hasn’t done much wrong today but I agree in general. I haven’t seen anything from him to mark him out as anything other than a cheap fourth/fifth choice centre back from a poor league. Al-Dakhil really struggled early on, but who didn’t? Weird that others have been given so many chances to get used to the level but he’s been cast aside really.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Don’t want to single any player out, but positional play of Delcroix is worrying sometimes.
That being said, O Shea should have blocked the cross.
Not too far off, but margins still unfavourable to us
That being said, O Shea should have blocked the cross.
Not too far off, but margins still unfavourable to us
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Get someone in who has a clue how to set up a defence would be a start!Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:00 pmWe're still improving ......Delcroix is either very nervous or very crap, Villa are a top side.
Vitinho cannot pass a ball...we need better. Beyer too fragile?
Hopefully we can get some reinforcements in Jan.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
we have played well going forward but like all season our defending as let us down and you can't switch off in this league..
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Delcroix isn’t good enough for a prem side. Got absolute pelters when I said this on his first start. He hasn’t improved and still not good enough
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Playing well overall but still too easy to score against. Vitinho os even worse than Delacroix.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Anyway Come on Burnley!
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Is Luton a must win for us?
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You want O’Shea running out to marshal Watkins? That’s on the fullbacks for a forward drifting wide - if a centre half pulls wide they leave a gaping hole in the middle like.SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:58 pmO’Shea allowed his player to collect the ball and the space to turn and run for their first
Out of position for the second - but probably covering for Delcroix who was just watching
This isn’t a Dyche 4-4-2 where everyone is compact and we have people behind the ball man - defending in space is vastly different
Again - Delcroix a scapegoat, he’s positioned absolutely fine for the second goal.
Really not sure what some people watch sometimes
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Takes a bigger man to concede you can’t do the job.
Step away Vincent and let someone who knows what their doing come in.
Step away Vincent and let someone who knows what their doing come in.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
It's one thing knowing the threat and another stopping it. He's one of the best strikers in the league.
Everyone knew what Arjen Robben was going to do every time he got the ball, yet nobody could stop him doing it.
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If the frame was taken at the moment the ball was touched.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Absolutely - but it is for them too. A draw is useless really. I’m not sure that’s a big statement, it’s looked must win since about October. I think we’ll be fine against them.
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Re: AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?
Villa are good enough without us making it as easy we did for both goals. That said, we’ve been more than decent going forward and Foster has been a real danger, delay that run by a nanosecond and he’s on.
Play like that and I fancy us to get another. Problem is it’s impossible to have faith we won’t do something stupid at the back.
Play like that and I fancy us to get another. Problem is it’s impossible to have faith we won’t do something stupid at the back.