If you want free reign to criticise and abuse the things you don't like, but can't handle reading criticism of the things you like, you're best off starting your own message board where only you are able to post.KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:12 pmWhat do you mean Mr Positive? I was the biggest Dyche whinger on here towards the end and one of the most vocal about my dislike of the ALK finances.
Adingra scored against him at Brighton, Kudus won West ham the game. Salah should have had a couple. Today another 2 goals.
Can’t even be arsed to think of more but he’s awful, slow and offers nothing going forward. I liked Taylor too been a good servant for us but he’s washed and finished.
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I like Newcastles suggestion of Smal for left back. I’d have a look at Owen Wijndal, former AZ captain hasn’t worked for him since replacing Blind at Ajax.
Kai Wagner plays in the MLS, German left back at Philly, wand of a left foot, great attacking threat. Linked with Leeds last summer, ran his contract down at Philly, think he fancies a move to Europe.
Kai Wagner plays in the MLS, German left back at Philly, wand of a left foot, great attacking threat. Linked with Leeds last summer, ran his contract down at Philly, think he fancies a move to Europe.
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Scott McKenna and Joe Worrall allowed to leave Forest I read the other day.
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So three games?KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:12 pmWhat do you mean Mr Positive? I was the biggest Dyche whinger on here towards the end and one of the most vocal about my dislike of the ALK finances.
Adingra scored against him at Brighton, Kudus won West ham the game. Salah should have had a couple. Today another 2 goals.
Can’t even be arsed to think of more but he’s awful, slow and offers nothing going forward. I liked Taylor too been a good servant for us but he’s washed and finished.
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No comment on the left hand side before taylor came back into the side?
‘Mr. Positive’ because you’re lashing out any anyone that has been critical of the team/manager this year but it’s fine for you to do it!
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Regardless of who it is, full back and centre mid is a must in January.
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Add in a CB as well.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:29 pmRegardless of who it is, full back and centre mid is a must in January.
I don't think we can rely on the injury record of Beyer or Ekdal.
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Agree here. We’ve got 5 cb’s and play with 2.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:36 pmIf I’m honest I’m not sure CB is critical. For me the other two positions are absolutely 100% critical recruitment positions
A dominant 6 defensive midfielder (Pape Gueye) and new left back the key two for me.
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Could we do worse than bring back McNally?
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I agree the other positions are crucial, but if we're to stand even the slightest chance of staying up, we have to be able to see out a favourable score line. How many times do we concede on half time or close to full time? An experienced leader at CB would help massively, and for me it's just as crucial.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:36 pmIf I’m honest I’m not sure CB is critical. For me the other two positions are absolutely 100% critical recruitment positions
Unfortunately though, after the Forest result tonight, I'm not sure there's anything we can do in January to turn this around.
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Taylor was probably at fault for the first because he seemed to fail to anticipate the direction of a run already in progress but 8 Burnley players were marking no-one.KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:12 pmWhat do you mean Mr Positive? I was the biggest Dyche whinger on here towards the end and one of the most vocal about my dislike of the ALK finances.
Adingra scored against him at Brighton, Kudus won West ham the game. Salah should have had a couple. Today another 2 goals.
Can’t even be arsed to think of more but he’s awful, slow and offers nothing going forward. I liked Taylor too been a good servant for us but he’s washed and finished.
Two Villa players were unmarked in the box for their second.
Taylor didn't do that well on the third but again Villa players were left unmarked in the box.
It's not untrue to say Taylor had a bit of a 'mare but it's also not true to say that Taylor was the only issue today.
You can't cherry pick what you see to fit a narrative.
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I’ve seen him play a few times this season. He’s definitely not the answer. He’s found his level
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Fair enough.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:48 pmI’ve seen him play a few times this season. He’s definitely not the answer. He’s found his level
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I do agree but I just don’t think the funds will be there for a CB.ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pmI agree the other positions are crucial, but if we're to stand even the slightest chance of staying up, we have to be able to see out a favourable score line. How many times do we concede on half time or close to full time? An experienced leader at CB would help massively, and for me it's just as crucial.
Unfortunately though, after the Forest result tonight, I'm not sure there's anything we can do in January to turn this around.
I think VK will learn from his summer mistakes and prioritise his limited funds.
I do agree though I think that result tonight pretty much ends our chances unless Everton’s form drops off a cliff
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I would definitely integrate him next season though. A year with us in a promotion season could develop him enough for the prem.
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Right back
Centre back
Centre mid
Centre back
Centre mid
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Watched Wagner 5/6 times does not have the physicality for me for our league's defensively poor average pace. Has a wand like of a left foot great set species taker poor defender. If we were in the championship dominating sides he is a maybe but not at this level defensively not even close.KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:23 pmI like Newcastles suggestion of Smal for left back. I’d have a look at Owen Wijndal, former AZ captain hasn’t worked for him since replacing Blind at Ajax.
Kai Wagner plays in the MLS, German left back at Philly, wand of a left foot, great attacking threat. Linked with Leeds last summer, ran his contract down at Philly, think he fancies a move to Europe.
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Left-back good on both sides of the ball must have mobility.
A proper 6 is somebody who can receive in tight spaces and has mobility and power can win the ball back can sit between CB at times and can play through lines.
Being greedy a CF who is mobile and a good finisher who works hard without the ball.
A proper 6 is somebody who can receive in tight spaces and has mobility and power can win the ball back can sit between CB at times and can play through lines.
Being greedy a CF who is mobile and a good finisher who works hard without the ball.
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Don’t spend a penny more. Sell what we can sell in the summer and have another great championship season.
Come back stronger.
Come back stronger.
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I think there’s a few that have moved to X for a more ‘free’ discussion.
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Two centre halves, right and left back and defensive midfielder plus another striker.
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The priority had to be CDM to let Berge advance forward
As mentioned the Fellaini, Fabihno etc type.
Solid CB and LB/RB
Hopefully we can be active and give it a go
As mentioned the Fellaini, Fabihno etc type.
Solid CB and LB/RB
Hopefully we can be active and give it a go
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Then we need to get what is required on the other side of the pitch. If we get a massive upgrade at right back then Taylor is excellent as the more defensive full back on the left hand side. IMO Taylor has been one of our better players this season.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:18 pmI think it’s more to do with the system. He’s someone that should be a back up for us and no more.
Taylor can’t offer us what we need from a left back.
Watching Forrest here and Aina going forward offers them so much.
Think he was 6th overall a couple of weeks ago, he is the least of our problems at present.
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If I am honest I disagree. Our system is based upon full backs being really good with the ball and either getting forward to create an extra outlet or stepping into midfield. Taylor just doesn’t fit into our system.Goody1975 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:27 pmThen we need to get what is required on the other side of the pitch. If we get a massive upgrade at right back then Taylor is excellent as the more defensive full back on the left hand side. IMO Taylor has been one of our better players this season.
Think he was 6th overall a couple of weeks ago, he is the least of our problems at present.
If we going for a more traditional set up I would agree with you.
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We will be replacing Cork and Rodriquez at some stage in the next few months, now is as good a time as any (if the right player comes available).
I worry about our centre halves but when all fit I just can't see where we can fit another one in.
So in short, a striker to backup/supplement Foster, an athletic holding midfielder and a massive upgrade at right back are the priorities imo.
I worry about our centre halves but when all fit I just can't see where we can fit another one in.
So in short, a striker to backup/supplement Foster, an athletic holding midfielder and a massive upgrade at right back are the priorities imo.
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Trouble with this thought is there is no guarantee we would be promoted again. What we achieved last season was exceptional.Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:07 pmDon’t spend a penny more. Sell what we can sell in the summer and have another great championship season.
Come back stronger.
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The centre halves are never fit at the same time or mostly good enough for this level so a new one or two makes sense.Goody1975 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:31 pmWe will be replacing Cork and Rodriquez at some stage in the next few months, now is as good a time as any (if the right player comes available).
I worry about our centre halves but when all fit I just can't see where we can fit another one in.
So in short, a striker to backup/supplement Foster, an athletic holding midfielder and a massive upgrade at right back are the priorities imo.
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Except Taylor is decent on the ball, by no means brilliant but if we get a Maatsen style player at right back then we will improve massively.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:30 pmIf I am honest I disagree. Our system is based upon full backs being really good with the ball and either getting forward to create an extra outlet or stepping into midfield. Taylor just doesn’t fit into our system.
If we going for a more traditional set up I would agree with you.
Getting a ball playing left full back with Vitinho at right back would leave our centre halves even more isolated and a recipe for disaster. None of our centre halves are capable of going man for man with Premier league strikers (playing a high line) and coming out on top, they need support and experience at this level to help them, Taylor provides this.
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That we don't panic, that we continue our improvement and start to accumulate points on a regular basis. That the players pass better, pass quicker and increase the conversion rate of chances created.
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You forgot to add and defend.Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:35 pmThat we don't panic, that we continue our improvement and start to accumulate points on a regular basis. That the players pass better, pass quicker and increase the conversion rate of chances created.
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Goody1975 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:35 pmExcept Taylor is decent on the ball, by no means brilliant but if we get a Maatsen style player at right back then we will improve massively.
Getting a ball playing left full back with Vitinho at right back would leave our centre halves even more isolated and a recipe for disaster. None of our centre halves are capable of going man for man with Premier league strikers (playing a high line) and coming out on top, they need support and experience at this level to help them, Taylor provides this.
In theory we could combat that with a dedicated defensive midfielder (a good, expensive one).
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This is what I’ve been staggered by. Although we’d likely be one of the favourites, some posters are fine with the what we’ve done this season simply because “we’ll come back stronger”.LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:32 pmTrouble with this thought is there is no guarantee we would be promoted again. What we achieved last season was exceptional.
Absolutely no guarantees as you say. We surrender our status at our peril.
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Agreed but that'd be a defensive midfielder with the ability to protect the back four and with the technical ability to play in a possession based team, who is willing to come to a team which is very likely to be relegated to the second tier. On top of this they are currently good enough to come straight into the Premier League and make an instant impact.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:38 pmIn theory we could combat that with a dedicated defensive midfielder (a good, expensive one).
Hope the analytical bods have somebody lined up on their super duper laptop.
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There's one thing, nearly half of the transfer window will be gone before we play Luton at home in our next league fixture.
That is obviously a game we hope to win, the next league game after that is 31st Jan away at City, just before the window closes.
That is obviously a game we hope to win, the next league game after that is 31st Jan away at City, just before the window closes.
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Plays in a back five at Philly, I like Gazdag a lot in midfield.watsonsclarets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:03 pmWatched Wagner 5/6 times does not have the physicality for me for our league's defensively poor average pace. Has a wand like of a left foot great set species taker poor defender. If we were in the championship dominating sides he is a maybe but not at this level defensively not even close.
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Totally agreeksrclaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:40 pmThis is what I’ve been staggered by. Although we’d likely be one of the favourites, some posters are fine with the what we’ve done this season simply because “we’ll come back stronger”.
Absolutely no guarantees as you say. We surrender our status at our peril.
That has baffled me all season. I don’t get why people are so happy to be relegated. It doesn’t make sense to me
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Gazdag is a 10 ok watched him live when he came on against England at Wolves. The player I like there is Jack Mcglynn but once again wand of a left foot but Has no mobility. Gazdag was on fire before the World Cup but is allowed the freedom with how they play.
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Taylor absolutely wasn’t the only issue, the main issue is Villa have more money and better players than us. It doesn’t help when your experienced left back is responsible for giving the opposition 3 goals though. I think Vitinho was poor too but at least he gets forward and tries to support the attacks.ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:46 pmTaylor was probably at fault for the first because he seemed to fail to anticipate the direction of a run already in progress but 8 Burnley players were marking no-one.
Two Villa players were unmarked in the box for their second.
Taylor didn't do that well on the third but again Villa players were left unmarked in the box.
It's not untrue to say Taylor had a bit of a 'mare but it's also not true to say that Taylor was the only issue today.
You can't cherry pick what you see to fit a narrative.
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Thought the same.......he's tall & physical... Don't remember what his passing was like, but he's a threat at corners which we sorely lack.
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Vithinio gets forward but christ his final ball gets worse each passing week a bit like his throw ins.KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:05 pmTaylor absolutely wasn’t the only issue, the main issue is Villa have more money and better players than us. It doesn’t help when your experienced left back is responsible for giving the opposition 3 goals though. I think Vitinho was poor too but at least he gets forward and tries to support the attacks.
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I think there’s some talent in the MLS these days, I do wonder how the likes of Mukhtar, Reynoso, Lucho Acosta, Almada and Zelarayan (I know he left to Saudi mid season and was replaced by Rossi) would fare in Europe.watsonsclarets wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:05 pmGazdag is a 10 ok watched him live when he came on against England at Wolves. The player I like there is Jack Mcglynn but once again wand of a left foot but Has no mobility. Gazdag was on fire before the World Cup but is allowed the freedom with how they play.
Bouanga being lights out for LA and average in French maybe shows the step to Europe is still huge tho. Same with Gil who was part of that awful Villa side many moons ago.
I do love Riqui Puig tho!
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We will only lose 2 or 3, Foster, Kolesho maybe Brownhill. There is enough quality left for that league.LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:32 pmTrouble with this thought is there is no guarantee we would be promoted again. What we achieved last season was exceptional.
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I suspect you’re underestimating how many will want away.Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:12 pmWe will only lose 2 or 3, Foster, Kolesho maybe Brownhill. There is enough quality left for that league.
One of Trafford or Muric will defo be gone. (Potentially both)
Cork, Jay, JBG all likely to go.
Odobert, Amdouni and Tresor will more than likely go to Europe (similar to Weghorst) there’s no chance they will want a season or two in the championship.
Then you move into the fringe players like Redmond, Zaroury are they going to want to play championship football when they know are not likely if we get promoted again. (There are two I can see going to Turkey)
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He wouldn’t make our bench, better where he is gaining experience