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[Vegas Claret]

Sorry that having an opinion that isn't "ALK are wonderful" and actually caring about Burnley Football Club in it's entirety upsets you.

If I think something isn't right then I'll express my displeasure - if I go too far then I expect the mods to issue me with a ban. I think I'm perfectly entitled to be a bit cheesed off with naff American NBA styled 'branding', am I not?

mate, if we beat City 2-0 you'd complain it wasn't 3. It doesn't remotely upset me, as we discussed the other day, nowt sticks nor should it on here. It's just tedious. You crack on, i'm done.

[CoolClaret]

People don’t like change, they hanker for Grimsby away on a Tuesday night in Div 4.

And if you’re under 50, well you don’t have an opinion until you’re told the opinion to have.

I'd say more longing for time like the Monday night at Maine Road in 1960

[CoolClaret]

mate, if we beat City 2-0 you'd complain it wasn't 3. It doesn't remotely upset me, as we discussed the other day, nowt sticks nor should it on here. It's just tedious. You crack on, i'm done.

That's just complete nonsense though isn't it? Not sure why you're trying to character assassinate me.

I post plenty of positives - started threads about it, posted positivity after the Liverpool loss at home.

[Cooclaret]

I'd say more longing for time like the Monday night at Maine Road in 1960

And how many badge changes have we had since then? But because the ‘Americans’ have followed suit with the rest of the Premier League clubs, it’s the end of life as we know it?

[123EasyasBFC]

I half think you're a troll so not sure if I can be bothered properly replying -

Identity and branding means something - especially to a football club that's been in the heart of the community for 140+ years and certainly wasn't created by businessmen.

Wait till it starts to creep up more and more - this is just a start, what's next?

What will the next one be 'It's fine we were due a badge change anyway' and we're left with some monstrosity like that monochrome crap or even worse that 'B' on that cap.

Tred bloody carefully

What badge should we have then that keeps our identity because the current one on the home shirt isn’t our original badge

[aggi]

We will see how long the badge as it should be remains on the shirt because it’s not just social media. Wouldn’t surprise me if they started removing the badge to get that hideous B on instead.

Which is the badge "as it should be"?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it should be this:

[Cooclaret]

They’ll never change the badge.

[ClaretTony]

Which is the badge "as it should be"?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it should be this:

It’s not though aggi. Whether we like it or not, the club badge was changed in 2010.

[NewClaret]

Yank borderline racist - what race? Give over

Watford type with wanting multi club ownership, players as cattle etc.

Fonts for a one off game is one thing but what's this frigging horrid 'B' on a cap? It's horrific.

They already pushed it with the monochrome rubbish this year. What's next?

Sorry for wanting the club to remain with some unique identity, not just plastered with crypto crap and shoddy 'branding'

Here’s Wikipedia’s list of ethnic slurs with “Yank” listed. You may not agree, and I’ll leave it there, but would politely ask if you could not use it.

Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

I personally think we have multiple identities. The original badge, the BFC badge, the current one. It’s not like we’ve had the same identity forever.

A new logo to identify us in the current era isn’t something I find particularly offensive. Not that I’d like it to replace our permanent club crest, but I’m no more offended about it than I was when BFC badge appeared again on the back of the shirts a few years ago.

On that note, currently watching Everton and watching them play in their own font, using a modernised badge of just the Everton tower. Good job you don’t support them

[Bordeauxclaret]

[Cooclaret]

Here’s Wikipedia’s list of ethnic slurs with “Yank” listed. You may not agree, and I’ll leave it there, but would politely ask if you could not use it.

Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

I personally think we have multiple identities. The original badge, the BFC badge, the current one. It’s not like we’ve had the same identity forever.

A new logo to identify us in the current era isn’t something I find particularly offensive. Not that I’d like it to replace our permanent club crest, but I’m no more offended about it than I was when BFC badge appeared again on the back of the shirts a few years ago.

On that note, currently watching Everton and watching them play in their own font, using a modernised badge of just the Everton tower. Good job you don’t support them

Couldn’t work out what that was, thanks for the info. Absolutely horrid kit Everton though!

[123EasyasBFC]

They’ll never change the badge.

What is is that bothers you then? I admire your passion about the club but when things like badges and fonts have been changed loads over the years does it all really matter, is the clubs identity not shown through the fans and players on match day and not what colour the club badge is on twitter or fpl

[Cooclaret]

What is is that bothers you then? I admire your passion about the club but when things like badges and fonts have been changed loads over the years does it all really matter, is the clubs identity not shown through the fans and players on match day and not what colour the club badge is on twitter or fpl

Wrong one pal. CoolClaret will be along to moan about user names and ripping him off because I want to be him shortly…

[Newcastleclaret93]

Here’s Wikipedia’s list of ethnic slurs with “Yank” listed. You may not agree, and I’ll leave it there, but would politely ask if you could not use it.

Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

I personally think we have multiple identities. The original badge, the BFC badge, the current one. It’s not like we’ve had the same identity forever.

A new logo to identify us in the current era isn’t something I find particularly offensive. Not that I’d like it to replace our permanent club crest, but I’m no more offended about it than I was when BFC badge appeared again on the back of the shirts a few years ago.

On that note, currently watching Everton and watching them play in their own font, using a modernised badge of just the Everton tower. Good job you don’t support them

I could go on there and put your username as an ethnic slur.

[CoolClaret]

Here’s Wikipedia’s list of ethnic slurs with “Yank” listed. You may not agree, and I’ll leave it there, but would politely ask if you could not use it.

Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

I personally think we have multiple identities. The original badge, the BFC badge, the current one. It’s not like we’ve had the same identity forever.

A new logo to identify us in the current era isn’t something I find particularly offensive. Not that I’d like it to replace our permanent club crest, but I’m no more offended about it than I was when BFC badge appeared again on the back of the shirts a few years ago.

On that note, currently watching Everton and watching them play in their own font, using a modernised badge of just the Everton tower. Good job you don’t support them

Sorry, what do they call that famous baseball team that hails from the Bronx in New York? Give over man

[CoolClaret]

[ClaretTony]

They aren’t the club badges. We’ve only had two, introduced in 1974 and 2010.

[Nori1958]

People don’t like change, they hanker for Grimsby away on a Tuesday night in Div 4.

And if you’re under 50, well you don’t have an opinion until you’re told the opinion to have.

Grimsby away on a Tuesday night.... Free for kids, and loads of goals

[123EasyasBFC]

They aren’t the club badges. We’ve only had two, introduced in 1974 and 2010.

We have had more than 2 badges on kits though, so if it was ok in the 70s to have different badges on kits, there really isn’t an issue with having a different badge on social media or changing branding in my opinion

[CoolClaret]

Sorry but Leeds fans begrudgingly to their credit unanimously rejected and caused an out roar when their ownership attempted a 'modernised' 'rebrand'.

Seems like our lot will just take anything now.

We're just so lucky to be owned by ex Wall st financiers (that bought the club with the clubs own money) aren't we?

[CharlieinNewMexico]

If we were heading in that direction we’d have sacked Kompany by now. Watford are a basket case and we’re nothing like them at all.

By the way, I won’t report your post as find that kind of stuff a bit silly without just calling it out directly to the poster, but I find the terms “Yank” and “Yankee” offensive and borderline racist. Given we have a number of US-based fans that post on here I for one would prefer you don’t use them.

Thank you. I’ve pointed this out numerous times before but it seems to sail past the mods

[NewClaret]

I could go on there and put your username as an ethnic slur.

Feel free to.

I’d suggest it’s there for a reason, you can choose to disagree. I’m not debating it with you.

In any regard, I think we can all agree it’s a derogatory term (else CoolClaret wouldn’t have used it in that context - I don’t think he was seeking to be complimentary) and I don’t think a polite request to refrain from using it is unreasonable.

[123EasyasBFC]

Sorry but Leeds fans begrudgingly to their credit unanimously rejected and caused an out roar when their ownership attempted a 'modernised' 'rebrand'.

Seems like our lot will just take anything now.

We're just so lucky to be owned by ex Wall st financiers (that bought the club with the clubs own money) aren't we?

Again appreciate anyone’s passion for the club but you are getting worked up over things that haven’t happened, if the official club badge stays the same we have been having different badges on shirts for years and many clubs have different badges on club shop items. Chairman is the only person who’s wears a cap with that B. It’s not in the shop it’s not anywhere, who is it really affecting him wearing that

[NewClaret]

Thank you. I’ve pointed this out numerous times before but it seems to sail past the mods

No worries mate. Like I say, plenty of US-based fans on here who should not have to read that stuff.

[ClaretTony]

We have had more than 2 badges on kits though, so if it was ok in the 70s to have different badges on kits, there really isn’t an issue with having a different badge on social media or changing branding in my opinion

We didn’t have a badge or any identification on our shirts for a long time but we have had BFC on and various others but only two official club badges from 1974 to 2010 and from 2010 onwards.

[NewClaret]

They aren’t the club badges. We’ve only had two, introduced in 1974 and 2010.

Sorry Tony, what do you mean by this?

Edit: just read above, apologies.

[123EasyasBFC]

We didn’t have a badge or any identification on our shirts for a long time but we have had BFC on and various others but only two official club badges from 1974 to 2010 and from 2010 onwards.

So we have had ‘BFC’ as a long on the shirt and then 2 others which means we haven’t had the same badge throughout history to keep our identity and branding the same

[CoolClaret]

Thank you. I’ve pointed this out numerous times before but it seems to sail past the mods

If it's 'offensive' then I do apologise.

It's also the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world - how else would you have me refer to more American culture/ideas?

'American nonsense' sounds just as bad, no?

[123EasyasBFC]

Imagine this thread if our owners did a Sunderland

[ClaretTony]

Sorry Tony, what do you mean by this?

Edit: just read above, apologies.

Not sure what you are asking. We didn’t have a club badge until 1974 - prior to that we’d had nothing on the shirts or the county borough coat of arms or a BFC. We introduced the official club badge in 1974 but it wasn’t on the shirts immediately. That remained the official club badge until 2010 when the current one was introduced.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Why not just change the colours completely then?

Hey why not bin Turf Moor off - nothing matters apparently

Wow. Absolute meltdown over numbers.

[timshorts]

I could go on there and put your username as an ethnic slur.

It doesn't seem much of a slur. Not dissimilar from calling a British person a Tommy.

On the other hand, not included on the list are muricans, rednecks, Scousers or victims. Tottenham fans get a special mention, though.

[NewClaret]

Not sure what you are asking. We didn’t have a club badge until 1974 - prior to that we’d had nothing on the shirts or the county borough coat of arms or a BFC. We introduced the official club badge in 1974 but it wasn’t on the shirts immediately. That remained the official club badge until 2010 when the current one was introduced.

Yes, sorry, you’d answered it above.

I was sure we’d had badges/crests on shirts before then. Not that I was born

Off to do my research.

[ClaretTony]

Yes, sorry, you’d answered it above.

I was sure we’d had badges/crests on shirts before then. Not that I was born

Off to do my research.

As I’ve said, we did, but we never had an official club badge until 1974.

[CoolClaret]

Wow. Absolute meltdown over numbers.

Not really - I was just taking the posters statement to it's logical extreme.

[Cooclaret]

If it's 'offensive' then I do apologise.

It's also the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world - how else would you have me refer to more American culture/ideas?

'American nonsense' sounds just as bad, no?

Maybe just ease off the conspiracy theories until there is something hard to go at.

I asked the other day, but you must’ve missed it; do you have a personal issue with the current owners?

You seem to hammer anything and everything the club puts forward atm.

[NewClaret]

As I’ve said, we did, but we never had an official club badge until 1974.

So the question is when they became “official”?

What’s the criteria for them being considered so?

[wilks_bfc]

Not sure what you are asking. We didn’t have a club badge until 1974 - prior to that we’d had nothing on the shirts or the county borough coat of arms or a BFC. We introduced the official club badge in 1974 but it wasn’t on the shirts immediately. That remained the official club badge until 2010 when the current one was introduced.

IIRC it was originally only meant to be for the 50th anniversary season but with us being promoted and going “worldwide” the club decided to stick with it (albeit replacing the Latin with Burnley Football Club)

In all honesty, I don’t mind the monochrome versions of the badge. They look a lot clearer and the coloured version wouldn’t look right on some of our kits

[ClaretTony]

So the question is when they became “official”?

What’s the criteria for them being considered so?

Registered by Burnley Football Club as the official club badge which I’ve said we’ve done twice in 1974 and then in 2010.

[CoolClaret]

Maybe just ease off the conspiracy theories until there is something hard to go at.

I asked the other day, but you must’ve missed it; do you have a personal issue with the current owners?

You seem to hammer anything and everything the club puts forward atm.

What conspiracy theory?

Yeah I dislike the model that the club is operating on completely.

Not a fan of it one jot - on multiple fronts.

[NewClaret]

If it's 'offensive' then I do apologise.

It's also the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world - how else would you have me refer to more American culture/ideas?

'American nonsense' sounds just as bad, no?

No problem. Like I say, much prefer to call these things out directly than hide behind a report button and place the burden on Tony.

You’re an articulate chap, I’m sure you can find a way to express your dislike for American culture without using specific terms.

[superdimitri]

I've also pointed out it's offensive a few times. Plus I've reported posts. Can we stop with the discrimination against Americans? It's possible to be critical without being offensive. We have lots of American posters on here.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.

[Cooclaret]

What conspiracy theory?

Yeah I dislike the model that the club is operating on completely.

Not a fan of it one jot - on multiple fronts.

Changes of badges, branding, eradication of the club culture and history.

What do you dislike? The modernisation? The funding that has been sought? The progressive approach to recruitment in playing and coaching staff? Expanding the brand of the club internationally?

[CoolClaret]

Changes of badges, branding, eradication of the club culture and history.

What do you dislike? The modernisation? The funding that has been sought? The progressive approach to recruitment in playing and coaching staff? Expanding the brand of the club internationally?

All disputable and been done to death (being relegated by january is anything but progressive)

Dislike the model of operation, the profit of all cost approach amongst other things but that's for another thread

[123EasyasBFC]

I've also pointed out it's offensive a few times. Plus I've reported posts. Can we stop with the discrimination against Americans? It's possible to be critical without being offensive. We have lots of American posters on here.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.

It’s a quick thing to do is to blame the Americans, when the club wear changing fonts and logos on shirts way before the new owners came in, it just gets highlighted more when things aren’t going well on the field

[Cooclaret]

All disputable and been done to death (being relegated by january is anything but progressive)

Dislike the model of operation, the profit of all cost approach amongst other things but that's for another thread

Christ on a bike

[Cooclaret]

It’s a quick thing to do is to blame the Americans, when the club wear changing fonts and logos on shirts way before the new owners came in, it just gets highlighted more when things aren’t going well on the field

It’s lazy.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I've also pointed out it's offensive a few times. Plus I've reported posts. Can we stop with the discrimination against Americans? It's possible to be critical without being offensive. We have lots of American posters on here.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.

I mean listen JJ Watt on the Pat Mcaffee show. It’s cringe worthy to listen to

[123EasyasBFC]

I mean listen JJ Watt on the Pat Mcaffee show. It’s cringe worthy to listen to

Nobody is forcing you to listen to him, it’s for a select audience, you can turn it off if you don’t like it

[CoolClaret]

I've also pointed out it's offensive a few times. Plus I've reported posts. Can we stop with the discrimination against Americans? It's possible to be critical without being offensive. We have lots of American posters on here.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.

I like a lot about America, love a lot about Americans as you say friendly and welcoming and the 'can do' attitude.

For me the corporate/busness culture leaves a lot to be desired, as does a lot of the politics and I think it's fair to say that the role professional sport plays over there is very different and has a different model to what Association Football in England does - that's fair, no?

Again - I didn't think Yank or Yankee is particularly 'offensive' - pointing to the fact that it's the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world, happy to be wrong on that of course.

My only concerns are Burnley Football Club losing it's identity, which I am in fear of.

I do not want the club to be a completely run-of-the-mill sanitised type, which I think we are slowly morphing into.