January transfer window rumours.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Pickles » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:31 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:28 pm
I actually thought zaroury was good off the ball last season but to be honest we very rarely didn’t dominate the ball, so benson either started and had loads of space and saw the ball or him came off the bench after tella had run left back ragged for 60 minutes and the opposition were just sitting in
Yes true, I was wrong there. Zaroury was better than Benson, many times Barnes was encouraging Zaroury when and where to press. Clear that he hasn't kicked on though. You're right about how Benson featured for us, he was a bit of a cheat code, but that was made possible in part by how he came on with twenty minutes to go and absolutely tore knackered defences apart. It's not quite as simple as that in the Prem.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:36 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:22 pm
Your reply to me on that post and even now is literally agreeing with me? I don’t get what you are saying. ‘Benson came on at 82 minutes and was ineffective’. Just cause others were too doesn’t mean my statement was incorrect, in fact you are saying it is correct. I didn’t mention anyone else as the comment made I replied to was about Benson.
The problem with trying to be clever is that it can make you look stupid.
You know full well that the context was that it would be very difficult for any player (let alone someone with as few minutes as Benson) would find it very difficult to be effective with coming on in a game with 10 minutes left for a team being totally dominated all over the pitch.

But nevertheless let’s park that - let’s concentrate on this training stuff you’ve come up with

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Goliath » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:43 pm

This idea that Benson was only good off the bench isn't strictly true. Three of his best displays were away at Sheff Utd away, Bournemouth away and Man Utd away all lf which he started.

Hes an excellent player but hes a modern day wide forward, not a winger, he wont track back to the nrcessary standard. If he was playing for City thats fine but for us we would have to sacrifice a striker and play a 433 so the rcm could cover him defensively, sort of like Henderson did for Salah or Fletcher for Ronaldo etc. Its doable but Kompany doesnt seem to keen on using that system which I suppose is fair enough and means game time for Benson will continue to be limited.

I don't think i disagree with him really. If we had a right hand side of Benson and Vitinho we would be an absolute mess defensively down that side.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Pickles » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:48 pm

Goliath wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:43 pm
If we had a right hand side of Benson and Vitinho we would be an absolute mess defensively down that side.
Shudder

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:03 pm

Goliath wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:43 pm
This idea that Benson was only good off the bench isn't strictly true. Three of his best displays were away at Sheff Utd away, Bournemouth away and Man Utd away all lf which he started.

Hes an excellent player but hes a modern day wide forward, not a winger, he wont track back to the nrcessary standard. If he was playing for City thats fine but for us we would have to sacrifice a striker and play a 433 so the rcm could cover him defensively, sort of like Henderson did for Salah or Fletcher for Ronaldo etc. Its doable but Kompany doesnt seem to keen on using that system which I suppose is fair enough and means game time for Benson will continue to be limited.

I don't think i disagree with him really. If we had a right hand side of Benson and Vitinho we would be an absolute mess defensively down that side.
We forget we were winning at half time in that game at Bramall Lane and they couldn’t handle Benson.

Anyway, a shame our whole discussion is about us selling players and it doesn’t look like hardly any incomings despite the glaring need in a couple of positions.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by LongsideClaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:05 pm

Maxime Estève from Montpellier, first mentioned by Fabrizio Romano a couple of days ago on twitter.

Believe this one is getting close.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:06 pm

It's difficult to reconcile the Benson who cops out of training and obviously isn't good enough with the Benson who signed the bumper contract extension in the summer.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:11 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:05 pm
Maxime Estève from Montpellier, first mentioned by Fabrizio Romano a couple of days ago on twitter.

Believe this one is getting close.
What in Beelzebub’s name are you playing at ?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:11 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:06 pm
It's difficult to reconcile the Benson who cops out of training and obviously isn't good enough with the Benson who signed the bumper contract extension in the summer.
That’s cause it’s made up ********, innit.

Unless of course we’re to believe RVclaret joins Lowbankclaret on his regular visits to the training ground.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:12 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:06 pm
It's difficult to reconcile the Benson who cops out of training and obviously isn't good enough with the Benson who signed the bumper contract extension in the summer.
Try reconcile the summer and this season being two different time periods and you might work that one out.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:12 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:11 pm
That’s cause it’s made up ********, innit.

Unless of course we’re to believe RVclaret joins Lowbankclaret on his regular visits to the training ground.
Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:16 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:12 pm
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Perhaps you could clear up how you’ve come to claim that Manuel Benson regularly cops out of training? :)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by KRBFC » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:12 pm

I’ve no idea why he hasn’t featured this season
How does any Burnley fan not know why Benson hasn’t featured for us this season?

The same reason he didn’t play at all during pre season

He’s been injured for the entire season, he started his first game back against Aston Villa and I think he went off injured.

I repeat HE HAS BEEN INJURED THE ENTIRE PRESEASON AND SEASON, he’ll be miles off full sharpness and will take him a while to get up to speed.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:24 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:05 pm
Maxime Estève from Montpellier, first mentioned by Fabrizio Romano a couple of days ago on twitter.

Believe this one is getting close.
Seem to recall you being pretty reliable on transfer news. Hope we can get this done.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:24 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:12 pm
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Why does this word embarrassing keep floating around. Does it make you feel good about yourself or something lol.

Mmmm ?
Any idea who posted this ?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:26 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm
How does any Burnley fan not know why Benson hasn’t featured for us this season?

The same reason he didn’t play at all during pre season

He’s been injured for the entire season, he started his first game back against Aston Villa and I think he went off injured.

I repeat HE HAS BEEN INJURED THE ENTIRE PRESEASON AND SEASON, he’ll be miles off full sharpness and will take him a while to get up to speed.

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Why are a number of clubs keen to sign him then ?
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by bumba » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm
How does any Burnley fan not know why Benson hasn’t featured for us this season?

The same reason he didn’t play at all during pre season

He’s been injured for the entire season, he started his first game back against Aston Villa and I think he went off injured.

I repeat HE HAS BEEN INJURED THE ENTIRE PRESEASON AND SEASON, he’ll be miles off full sharpness and will take him a while to get up to speed.

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Apparently been fit for months

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by RVclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:28 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:24 pm
Why does this word embarrassing keep floating around. Does it make you feel good about yourself or something lol.

Mmmm ?
Any idea who posted this ?
Whooosh.

Anyway, I’ve had enough, think what you like. I don’t post s**t on here and I loved Benson last season.

Time to get back to rumours, LongsideClaret is usually good for accuracy so that sounds promising.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:30 pm

I do love that RV has gone full on Lowbankclaret tonight, though.

Great Thursday night entertainment.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:38 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:28 pm


I don’t post s**t on here
I agree that you usually don’t….but you have tonight.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:38 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:12 pm
Try reconcile the summer and this season being two different time periods and you might work that one out.
Not sure this adds up. In August he was worth the big new contract but 76 minutes of football later he's not good enough?

I am overlooking the thing you made up about training as I'm a kind-hearted and gentle soul.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steddyman » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:39 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:12 pm
have we signed anyone or been linked with anyone ? I can't be arsed reading through pages of crap
You came to the wrong place then.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:46 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:30 pm
I do love that RV has gone full on Lowbankclaret tonight, though.

Great Thursday night entertainment.
Never go full Lowbank...

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:49 pm

Goliath wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:43 pm

Hes an excellent player but hes a modern day wide forward, not a winger, he wont track back to the nrcessary standard. If he was playing for City thats fine but for us we would have to sacrifice a striker and play a 433 so the rcm could cover him defensively, sort of like Henderson did for Salah or Fletcher for Ronaldo etc. Its doable but Kompany doesnt seem to keen on using that system which I suppose is fair enough and means game time for Benson will continue to be limited.

This is exactly what I'd be doing in certain games/certain scenarios, sacrificing Amdouni for an extra midfielder.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Goliath » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:53 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:49 pm
This is exactly what I'd be doing in certain games/certain scenarios, sacrificing Amdouni for an extra midfielder.
I don't think its the worst idea, we finally have the profile of striker that can lead the line on his own to make it work. I'd wager that Bensons output would be more than Amdouni's as well. Its unlikely to be tried though so probably a waste of time even discussing it.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:16 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:39 pm
You came to the wrong place then.
:D indeed

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:30 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:49 pm
This is exactly what I'd be doing in certain games/certain scenarios, sacrificing Amdouni for an extra midfielder.
Ramsey looked like he was going to be that extra midfielder against United at home but then for some reason next game away to Newcastle decided to play Ramsey wide left and he had a shocker

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:25 am

spt_claret wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:45 am
Thought we were here to discuss transfer rumours but alright then I guess we can all **** off.
That was more of a rant than a discussion tbf.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Zom Zom » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:37 am

A former Claret may be on the move. Blackburn want to sign Jimmy Dunne from QPR (BBC Gossip column)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Quicknick » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:12 am

Zom Zom wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:37 am
A former Claret may be on the move. Blackburn want to sign Jimmy Dunne from QPR (BBC Gossip column)
Is he out of favour at QPR? I'd much rather live in London if I was him.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:59 am

Quicknick wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:12 am
Is he out of favour at QPR? I'd much rather live in London if I was him.
He won't be living in Blackburn, just like our players don't live in Burnley

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by KRBFC » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:08 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:26 pm
Why are a number of clubs keen to sign him then ?
Because he’s no longer injured and needs game time, he’ll be a million miles off full fitness required for the PL.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:11 am

I always felt Jimmy Dunne would make a top defender played alongside a more experienced cb like Tarks or Mee

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Rowls » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:11 am

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:29 pm
He isn't coming.
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Not coming is clearly most likely outcome but that could just as easily be translated as Montpellier "don't envisage" him leaving, which is slightly less clear cut.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Ric_C » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:15 am

1 actual transfer rumour in 35 posts on this page....

just saying :?
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:19 am

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:08 am
Because he’s no longer injured and needs game time, he’ll be a million miles off full fitness required for the PL.
But the clubs interested feel he would be fit enough for them.?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:23 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:19 am
But the clubs interested feel he would be fit enough for them.?
None of them are in the premier league, which was the point being made. Coming off the bench for the last half hour for a championship team is just a little different from playing in the premier league.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:26 am

It's extremely disappointing that our recruitment has stalled .We have needed a combative cm striker and a back up lb all season .

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by KRBFC » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:22 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:19 am
But the clubs interested feel he would be fit enough for them.?
In the league below, where they can afford to carry a luxury like Benson whilst he builds up fitness. Or he’s proven to be very effective off the bench.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by burnleymik » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:27 am

Been so used to action packed transfers windows for the last couple that this one is a bit boring so far. Just hoping we have some irons in the fire...

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Firthy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:40 am

Ric_C wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:15 am
1 actual transfer rumour in 35 posts on this page....

just saying :?
Where was that? I must have missed it :shock: :lol: :lol:

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:48 am

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm
How does any Burnley fan not know why Benson hasn’t featured for us this season?

The same reason he didn’t play at all during pre season

He’s been injured for the entire season, he started his first game back against Aston Villa and I think he went off injured.

I repeat HE HAS BEEN INJURED THE ENTIRE PRESEASON AND SEASON, he’ll be miles off full sharpness and will take him a while to get up to speed.

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No point talking sense or dealing with facts on here, as I’ve said before it’s embarrassing how some people think they know players & have a better understanding about tatics & how our players play than the manager & coaching staff.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:50 am

I seen a comment last night by a Burnley fan describing Benson as a world class impact sub.

Maybe this is why the championship clubs linked with him want him
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by mkmel » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:55 am

Ric_C wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:15 am
1 actual transfer rumour in 35 posts on this page....

just saying :?
That was an old transfer rumour re Andrew Driver

That doesn't count

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by TopCat » Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:03 am

What time is the deadline?
Previously been 7pm and 11pm??

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:04 am

spt_claret wrote:
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Wouldn't move on Vitinho, think far too much is made of his shortcomings and people forget how young he is because our whole team are kids. Defenders tend to peak later.
Well, he's 24, 25 in July. Don't think he fits the category of a 'kid'. However, more importantly, I'm intrigued regarding your comment about his 'shortcomings'. It's exactly his 'shortcomings' that have cost us so many points this season. Passes that go astray,( especially in centre field), passes that put his teammates in trouble, lack of positional sense. There's enough there to work on. The bottom line,though, is he just isn't good enough for this league. Of course he's not the only one. He seems keen and very personable but he's holding down a position that requires an upgrade.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:05 am

mkmel wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:55 am
That was an old transfer rumour re Andrew Driver

That doesn't count
FFS
Andrew Driver is/was another winger :)

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by alwaysaclaret » Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:05 am

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:22 am
In the league below, where they can afford to carry a luxury like Benson whilst he builds up fitness. Or he’s proven to be very effective off the bench.
Clearly there's no doubt about he's ability imo, if he's physically fit enough to compete in the championship he's physically fit enough to compete in the Premier league, in other words he's either fit or not fit. If he's still carrying an injury then he's neither fit for the championship or the Premier league, it's as simple as that, as I say there's no doubting he's ability, yes of course there's always an issue in terms of a player being match fit or not, but the only way a player gets that is by playing games, and that goes for any player no matter what league their playing in, if a player has been injured he needs games to get match fit, players that have been injured don't all go to a lower league team to attain that fitness and as I've said there's no doubting benson's ability so it's quite simple, he should be getting game time if free of injury, to take the issue on a bit, gudmundson or larsen to name just two haven't shown any reason to keep playing them any more than giving Benson the chance to prove he can show he's ability in this league, but needs a run of games to do so, I'm baffled he's not being given that chance under the circumstances.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by KRBFC » Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:11 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:05 am
Clearly there's no doubt about he's ability imo, if he's physically fit enough to compete in the championship he's physically fit enough to compete in the Premier league, in other words he's either fit or not fit. If he's still carrying an injury then he's neither fit for the championship or the Premier league, it's as simple as that, as I say there's no doubting he's ability, yes of course there's always an issue in terms of a player being match fit or not, but the only way a player gets that is by playing games, and that goes for any player no matter what league their playing in, if a player has been injured he needs games to get match fit, players that have been injured don't all go to a lower league team to attain that fitness and as I've said there's no doubting benson's ability so it's quite simple, he should be getting game time if free of injury, to take the issue on a bit, gudmundson or larsen to name just two haven't shown any reason to keep playing them any more than giving Benson the chance to prove he can show he's ability in this league, but needs a run of games to do so, I'm baffled he's not being given that chance under the circumstances.
The intensity of the PL and Championship are two different things especially when you’re having 80% of the ball in the Championship.

Also he hasn’t had any pre season, we’ve all heard several times from different players how important pre season is.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Quicknick » Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:12 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:59 am
He won't be living in Blackburn, just like our players don't live in Burnley
Manchester, no doubt. I'd much rather live in certain areas of London than anywhere there.

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