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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:48 pm
I fully understand that
It’s interesting how people see things differently. I think this is a great time to be a Burnley fan. All depends what you value most as a supporter I suppose.
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Post by burnley007 » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:00 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:58 pm
It’s interesting how people see things differently. I think this is a great time to be a Burnley fan. All depends what you value most as a supporter I suppose.
Agreed. It's nice to feel that there is a long-term vision. Not felt that before, always treading water and trying to stay afloat!

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Post by taio » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:03 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:58 pm
It’s interesting how people see things differently. I think this is a great time to be a Burnley fan. All depends what you value most as a supporter I suppose.
Our model, especially financially, will inevitably be a cause for concern for some supporters

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Post by jedi_master » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:06 pm

I hope this doesn't count as a 'pointless debate' (although, perhaps it's worthy of it's own discussion in some ways). Just an observation I made...our squad is absolutely massive.

To put in perspective, Chelsea have 54 players comprising their first team squad according to Wikipedia (this also includes a load of youngsters who have never played for them).

Burnley (assuming we sign Esteve and the right back), according to Wikipedia, comprise 42.

I use Chelsea as a yardstick because their squad is infamously large, and whilst we're still 12 less it looks similar realistically when you discount the amount of players Chelsea have who have never even played in the league for their first team but have squad numbers (looks like 8). You could only really apply the same to Agyei and Dodgson for us...

Big decisions are going to have to be made this coming summer.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:07 pm

I see it’s only when a select few posters comment the thread police come on here to say ‘stick to topic guys’

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:17 pm

taio wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:03 pm
Our model, especially financially, will inevitably be a cause for concern for some supporters
I totally get that, but no model is perfect. Look around at what goes on at other clubs and I think we can count ourselves fortunate.
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Post by Steddyman » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:20 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:07 pm
I see it’s only when a select few posters comment the thread police come on here to say ‘stick to topic guys’
Can we have a *sigh* button in addition to the *like* button please mods

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Post by Goobs » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:23 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:20 pm
Can we have a *sigh* button in addition to the *like* button please mods
Does one of these not suffice? :roll:

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:27 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:20 pm
Can we have a *sigh* button in addition to the *like* button please mods
It’s a valid point, there has been a full page of non rumours or links, yet I got questioned this morning replying to a link

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Post by Steddyman » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:29 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:27 pm
It’s a valid point, there has been a full page of non rumours or links, yet I got questioned this morning replying to a link
At risk of extending the non-transfer talk, I wasn't specifically targetting you. More the fact it was running off track again. I'll shut-up now as I don't have any rumours to share.

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Post by taio » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:30 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:17 pm
I totally get that, but no model is perfect. Look around at what goes on at other clubs and I think we can count ourselves fortunate.
Time will tell

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Post by Anthonini » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:31 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:45 pm
Where's our new bloody Left Back??????
Looks like it's going to be Al Dakhil

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Post by Cooclaret » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:31 pm

I can’t understand anyone feeling disconnected to the club.

What do you want from them? Unfetted access on your terms to the players? Open access to the chairman?

We are supporters not owners, voting investors, or sponsors.

Thats it!
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Post by willsclarets » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:33 pm

I feel both deflated and excited about our squad, it's very odd. So much talent and potential, so little nous or leadership. It's the next transfer window window that's really important, can we keep our best players when we go down. With more experience and development this squad stays up easy peasy.
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Post by Cooclaret » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:34 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:33 pm
I feel both deflated and excited about our squad, it's very odd. So much talent and potential, so little nous or leadership. It's the next transfer window window that's really important, can we keep our best players when we go down. With more experience and development this squad stays up easy peasy.
I think that’s a pretty solid assessment!

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:43 pm

Re:Joe Bevan. I can’t imagine we have been scouting Albion Rovers so I wonder if this is a tip from our sister club Dundee?

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Post by Nori1958 » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:44 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:31 pm
I can’t understand anyone feeling disconnected to the club.

What do you want from them? Unfetted access on your terms to the players? Open access to the chairman?

We are supporters not owners, voting investors, or sponsors.

Thats it!
I fully agree, I feel no different towards the club now, than I have for the past 60+ years.

I don't think they felt detached last season
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Post by Nori1958 » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:45 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:43 pm
Re:Joe Bevan. I can’t imagine we have been scouting Albion Rovers so I wonder if this is a tip from our sister club Dundee?
The article actually names our Scottish scout
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Post by Pearcey » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:46 pm

I’m in the detached camp. Doesn’t feel like Burnley anymore.

Who’s in then? The centre half and right back?

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Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:48 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:31 pm
I can’t understand anyone feeling disconnected to the club.

What do you want from them? Unfetted access on your terms to the players? Open access to the chairman?

We are supporters not owners, voting investors, or sponsors.

Thats it!
It’s really not that difficult to understand.
Just respect the fact that some supporters feel disconnected and some don’t.

You don’t have to state really obvious things like we are supporters not owners. Do you think there is a single supporter who read your comment and thought “mmm I thought I owned the club…..thanks for pointing that out” ?
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:51 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:46 pm
I’m in the detached camp. Doesn’t feel like Burnley anymore.

Who’s in then? The centre half and right back?
How does it not feel like Burnley anymore?
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Post by Volvoclaret » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:52 pm

Some people don't seem to understand the term pointless debate.😞
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Post by Ric_C » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:55 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:51 pm
How does it not feel like Burnley anymore?
At a guess, because we aren't winning all the time like last season , lol

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Post by Pearcey » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:00 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:51 pm
How does it not feel like Burnley anymore?
Probably a combination of American owners, new social media teams, daft signing videos etc. Players that we don’t know if they’ll stay if we go down. An uncertain future financially if the current owners get bored.

I know football as a whole has changed so that’s probably thrown into it. Hard to pinpoint but it’s just how I feel. Still love the club but I’m fed up of being miserable every weekend. :-).

Not having a dig and I get others will like how it’s changed and that’s fair enough.

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Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:03 pm

To get back on point...

Lorenz Assignon - not heard anything to the contrary
Maxime Esteve - I assume just waiting for announcement
Thomas Meunier - gone a bit quiet
Hugo Ekitike - read one rumour. Nothing since
Joe Bevan - announced

Franchi - gone
Sass - rumours to Blackpool
Roberts - loads to Leeds possible if we sign a RB
Zaroury - possibly to Hull, but might be nonsense
Benson - all seems to be off the cards but might be late movement

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:03 pm

Did it feel like Burnley last season?

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:09 pm

I do get the disconnect, we’ve been forced into signing 30+ new players since VK walked through the door 18 months ago. Hopefully we can now start to see a bit of a consistent settled team for years to come. Playing in a different league in every VK season doesn’t help the stability really.
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Post by Pearcey » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:09 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:03 pm
Did it feel like Burnley last season?
Last season was great on the pitch but I still felt like we could spiral out of control off it. I genuinely worry for us. I’m 50 years old so I’m not naive. As I said, a lot of change has happened in a short space of time and it worries me. It’s a feeling that’s all. Like a boom and bust feel to it. Once the owners are bored etc.

It’s not for this thread though so I apologise. Back to transfers.

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Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:13 pm

This thread is like an IQ test that most people have failed because they didn't even get their name right

Updates:

Lorenz Assignon - not heard anything to the contrary
Maxime Esteve - I assume just waiting for announcement
Thomas Meunier - gone a bit quiet
Hugo Ekitike - read one rumour. Nothing since
Joe Bevan - announced

Franchi - gone
Sass - rumours to Blackpool
Roberts - loads to Leeds possible if we sign a RB
Zaroury - possibly to Hull, but might be nonsense
Benson - all seems to be off the cards but might be late movement possible loan to Sunderland
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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:26 pm

Ekrem Konur who just seems to make random stuff up but he does have 250k followers, says Benson to Villarreal and the BBC have picked up on it. But we’d have to make one of our out loans permanent

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:28 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:27 pm
It’s a valid point, there has been a full page of non rumours or links, yet I got questioned this morning replying to a link
“But he gets to do it, he gets to do it. Waaaaahhhhhh”
😭😭😭😭😭

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Post by ecc » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:34 pm

Meunier would be a great addition.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:37 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:28 pm
“But he gets to do it, he gets to do it. Waaaaahhhhhh”
😭😭😭😭😭
What happened to no bickering Sacha?

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:41 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:37 pm
What happened to no bickering Sacha?
You can’t have it both ways

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:43 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:41 pm
You can’t have it both ways
Raised a point that if people are going to get questioned for replying to a rumour there can’t be double standards when there’s a full page of non rumours just because of who it is in the page

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Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:46 pm

Jesus wept. Unless you've got news on a transfer just stop posting. I beg you.

Updates:

Lorenz Assignon - not heard anything to the contrary
Maxime Esteve - I assume just waiting for announcement
Thomas Meunier - gone a bit quiet
Hugo Ekitike - read one rumour. Nothing since
Joe Bevan - announced

Franchi - gone
Sass - rumours to Blackpool
Roberts - loads to Leeds possible if we sign a RB
Zaroury - possibly to Hull, but might be nonsense
Benson - all seems to be off the cards but might be late movement possible loan to Sunderland
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Post by Lord_Bob » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:55 pm

Zaroury to Hull is on according to BBC.

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Post by Commy » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:56 pm

According to the Hull chairman, Zaroury is almost done. They interviewed him on Sky.

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Post by Leisure » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:07 pm

I read somewhere that we can only loan out 7 players. Is that correct?

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Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:10 pm

BBC also running with Benson to Villareal.

Just to clarify Charlie’s point there is a hitch because there is a limit of seven outgoing loans (excepting U21s or home grown players). Currently we have seven out already who meet the criteria.
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Post by Westleigh » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:10 pm

Leisure wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:07 pm
I read somewhere that we can only loan out 7 players. Is that correct?
Apparently it depends if their home grown ,I posted earlier saying Wolves had 9 out on loan,but I didn’t know the individual details.

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Post by Leisure » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:20 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:10 pm
BBC also running with Benson to Villareal.

Just to clarify Charlie’s point there is a hitch because there is a limit of seven outgoing loans (excepting U21s or home grown players). Currently we have seven out already who meet the criteria.
In which case, presumably we can't loan out Benson and/or Zaroury.

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Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:46 pm

Palace sign Rovers player Adam Wharton for £18 million & rising.

Nice piece of business for the No-dads and presumably alleviates their cash flow problems caused by the Indian Government blocking Venky’s fund transfers.

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Post by Pearcey » Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:04 pm

Esteve confirmed

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Post by Leisure » Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:09 pm

Just seen this posted - Sorry that should have read 7 international loans. Doesn't count towards domestic loans.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:11 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:46 pm
Palace sign Rovers player Adam Wharton for £18 million & rising.

Nice piece of business for the No-dads and presumably alleviates their cash flow problems caused by the Indian Government blocking Venky’s fund transfers.
Dark horses for title next season with the Blackburn Messi in their squad.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:39 pm

Does anyone have any knowledge of the terms of esteve loan, is it a straight option in our favour, is it mandatory in the summer or is it like Tresor that will become perm after so many games?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:42 pm

A trio of signings for the Under 21s! 📝

Mikey O’Neill joins from Preston North End for an undisclosed fee, signing a short-term contract until the end of the season ⚽

Attacking midfielder Tommy McDermott joins from Port Vale on an 18-month contract whilst left-back Michael Parker joins on a free transfer 🏟️

Lad at work big Preston fan said O’Neil was rated highly at one stage
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Post by johnnyjones » Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:50 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:42 pm
A trio of signings for the Under 21s! 📝

Mikey O’Neill joins from Preston North End for an undisclosed fee, signing a short-term contract until the end of the season ⚽

Attacking midfielder Tommy McDermott joins from Port Vale on an 18-month contract whilst left-back Michael Parker joins on a free transfer 🏟️

Lad at work big Preston fan said O’Neil was rated highly at one stage
We have signed a left back at last :roll:

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Post by Westleigh » Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:55 pm

Where’s the LB from?

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