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[bfcjg]

He is.

Reckon we could do a swap......

Not sure he'd like to be Trafford's understudy.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Blocking is not allowed, or at least shouldn’t be.

Think the defender is allowed to mark a zone or move into a zone, but isn’t allowed to charge, trip or jump at another player. The reason it is allowed is because when you have short-arses like we do, they have to have a way to defend a corner. Yes, yes, I know

So I assume VAR allowed Endo on that basis but disallowed it for offside, the whole thing though is so un transparent we haven’t much idea.

[DAVETHEVICAR]

Arsenal Block the keeper every game at set pieces and score goals in those situations.
Never get penalised

[Vegas Claret]

Guarantee that van Dijk goal would have stood against us.

I was thinking about this earlier, the whole 'evens itself out over the season' is simply not the case with VAR.

[kentonclaret]

These young kids would have dreamt of playing in a Wembley final. But not this season I’m sure.

[Buxtonclaret]

I was thinking about this earlier, the whole 'evens itself out over the season' is simply not the case with VAR.

I don't think it does either.

[Buxtonclaret]

Arsenal Block the keeper every game at set pieces and score goals in those situations.
Never get penalised

Spot on, Dave.
Arsenal aren't the only ones either.

[Vegas Claret]

the offside decision, they give it for blocking - so is the decision made at the point in time he blocks or the time the ball is played forward when he isn't blocking ?

[Tricky Trevor]

That is just a ridiculous offside. If the rules say that’s offside quite simply the rule isn’t fit for purpose.

Same with Assignon yesterday, the offside player has had no impact on the outcome so should NOT be ruled offside.

Watched the EFL goals this morning. Identical situation in the Cardiff v Stoke match. No VAR, goal stood.

[Rileybobs]

the offside decision, they give it for blocking - so is the decision made at the point in time he blocks or the time the ball is played forward when he isn't blocking ?

When the ball is played Endo was in an offside position. If he didn’t interfere with play he would be classed as onside.

[Vegas Claret]

When the ball is played Endo was in an offside position. If he didn’t interfere with play he would be classed as onside.

So they give the decision when he blocks then ?

[Tricky Trevor]

Justice

[kentonclaret]

Check that one VAR

[Buxtonclaret]

What...no VAR check ?

[Vegas Claret]

is this pretty much Chelsea's first team today other than Silva ?

[kentonclaret]

Chelsea Pensioners 0 Liverpool Pups 1

[Rileybobs]

So they give the decision when he blocks then ?

Well the offside line is drawn at the point the ball is kicked, as always, but he doesn’t become offside until he proceeds to interfere with play.

[Rileybobs]

Belting game.

[aclaretinstevenage]

Van Dyke and Diaz have been immense today. About the right result I reckon.

[Tricky Trevor]

I thought the celebrations were OTT, Jamie Carragher.

[ksrclaret]

That was a brilliant game of football.

Can't believe just how many first team players at Liverpool were unavailable. The ones they had out there though fought with everything they had.

[Vegas Claret]

Well the offside line is drawn at the point the ball is kicked, as always, but he doesn’t become offside until he proceeds to interfere with play.

This is what I'm trying to get my head around, IF they give the decision WHEN he interferes then why don't they give Liverpool a penalty for the huge shirt pull by Chillwell on VVD which happens before ?

[Vegas Claret]

That was a brilliant game of football.

Can't believe just how many first team players at Liverpool were unavailable. The ones they had out there though fought with everything they had.

a win for togetherness and attitude

[Rileybobs]

This is what I'm trying to get my head around, IF they give the decision WHEN he interferes then why don't they give Liverpool a penalty for the huge shirt pull by Chillwell on VVD which happens before ?

I didn’t see that, but probably because they’re incompetent.

[Vegas Claret]

I didn’t see that, but probably because they’re incompetent.

seemingly so, a tough job for sure but they seem to make it more difficult than it needs to be (the refs and those that make the rules)

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Poch takes off his two best players and they struggle - what a muppet

[Burnley Ace]

FFS now we are going to be inundated with a gurning Kloop an a Scouse love in!!

[ISpeds00]

Chelsea were absolute bottlers - an Arsenal or City destroy Liverpool there today

[beddie]

Awesome player Van Dijk. The Liverpool keeper was outstanding. Between the two of them for MOTM I’ve gone for the keeper.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Watched the EFL goals this morning. Identical situation in the Cardiff v Stoke match. No VAR, goal stood.

That’s the thing, 99 times out of 100, without VAR the goal stands. That in itself tells you why VAR is ruining the game.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

A billion pounds spent, with the ref in their corner and still beaten. Chelsea are a joke.

[kentonclaret]

In his post match press conference Jurgen Klopp’s opening remark was “somebody reminded me there is an old English saying “you can’t win anything with kids” and laughs. I wonder if he was told that it was Liverpool legend Alan Hansen who made the remark whilst appearing on MOTD.

[Wile E Coyote]

glad liverpool won, klopp has been fantastic for them. poch as per usual is the nearly man.
its a game that only respects winners sadly.

[Tall Paul]

Chelsea Pensioners 0 Liverpool Pups 1

Chelsea squad average age: 23.9
Liverpool squad average age: 25.8

[PremierLeagueClass]

Chelsea squad average age: 23.9
Liverpool squad average age: 25.8

Shows the importance of having experience to allow younger players to flourish.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Hopefully that is his last trophy this season.

[Nori1958]

Chelsea squad average age: 23.9
Liverpool squad average age: 25.8

Was that yesterday's squads, or the seasons?

[Tall Paul]

Yesterday's (obviously)

[evensteadiereddie]

Wilder since returning will have a better record than VK in a like for like comparison. The only reason they are on the same points tally as us is because heckingbottom stayed too long & wilder didn't go there sooner

Since Wilder's reappointment, Sheff Utd have won 1 and drawn 2.
Burnley have won 1 and drawn 3 in that time.
Same number of games so "like for like" we are, and I know it's not much but it suffices to prove your mistake, one point up on them in that time.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Since Wilder's reappointment, Sheff Utd have won 1 and drawn 2.
Burnley have won 1 and drawn 3 in that time.
Same number of games so "like for like" we are, and I know it's not much but it suffices to prove your mistake, one point up on them in that time.

Are you sure that is correct ?

Jakub knows what he is talking about and is never wrong

[Jakubclaret]

Since Wilder's reappointment, Sheff Utd have won 1 and drawn 2.
Burnley have won 1 and drawn 3 in that time.
Same number of games so "like for like" we are, and I know it's not much but it suffices to prove your mistake, one point up on them in that time.

The gillingham game must have not gone ahead then despite the result standing.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Wilder has won two league games since his return.

[Jakubclaret]

Are you sure that is correct ?

Jakub knows what he is talking about and is never wrong

It's not a case of being right or wrong it boils down to his record since returning back to Sheffield United & you might not like to hear it but he's outperforming VK.

[claretonthecoast1882]

It's not a case of being right or wrong it boils down to his record since returning back to Sheffield United & you might not like to hear it but he's outperforming VK.

I couldn't care less what Wilder does, is doing or has done in all honesty. I couldn't even tell you who they have beat with those wins.

I am sure it is some comfort to someone out there he has won 2 games rather than 1.

[Jakubclaret]

Wilder has won two league games since his return.

Correct. Brentford being 1 & luton the other.

[Jakubclaret]

Since Wilder's reappointment, Sheff Utd have won 1 and drawn 2.
Burnley have won 1 and drawn 3 in that time.
Same number of games so "like for like" we are, and I know it's not much but it suffices to prove your mistake, one point up on them in that time.

Yes my mistake

[evensteadiereddie]

My bad Bordeaux, I'd forgotten they'd played Luton twice in that time.

[FCBurnley]

Surely the point is that Sheff U at least put up a fight yesterday at Wolves and clearly had a structure within the team unlike under Heckinbottom
Burnley on the other hand ………

[claretonthecoast1882]

Surely the point is that Sheff U at least put up a fight yesterday at Wolves and clearly had a structure within the team unlike under Heckinbottom
Burnley on the other hand ………

Burnley on the other hand got the exact same score at Wolves as Sheff Utd did

[Tall Paul]

Surely the point is that Sheff U at least put up a fight yesterday at Wolves and clearly had a structure within the team unlike under Heckinbottom
Burnley on the other hand ………

How much of a fight did they put up when they were losing their last two home games 5-0?