Vincent's Number 1 Fan

[MT03ALG]

Until today I was Vincent's Number 1 Fan. Unfortunately this is no longer the case.
Bringing Brownhill on after 45 minutes was a total disaster.
Irrelevant what WHU intended, Vincent made a huge mistake.
I hope he will admit his mistake.
Basically he invited WHU to win the game which they almost did.
I was extremely disappointed with conceding 2 points to WHU.
I must admit to still having us to finish on 34 points but with 3 points today that would have been 36 !!

[Wokingclaret]

I was ok with you until the last sentence

[randomclaret2]

Until today I was Vincent's Number 1 Fan. Unfortunately this is no longer the case.
Bringing Brownhill on after 45 minutes was a total disaster.
Irrelevant what WHU intended, Vincent made a huge mistake.
I hope he will admit his mistake.
Basically he invited WHU to win the game which they almost did.
I was extremely disappointed with conceding 2 points to WHU.
I must admit to still having us to finish on 34 points but with 3 points today that would have been 36 !!

Is that you Alan ?

[123EasyasBFC]

Until today I was Vincent's Number 1 Fan. Unfortunately this is no longer the case.
Bringing Brownhill on after 45 minutes was a total disaster.
Irrelevant what WHU intended, Vincent made a huge mistake.
I hope he will admit his mistake.
Basically he invited WHU to win the game which they almost did.
I was extremely disappointed with conceding 2 points to WHU.
I must admit to still having us to finish on 34 points but with 3 points today that would have been 36 !!

Admire your optimism, if we finish on 34 points I would give everyone who likes this comment £100

[jos]

Admire your optimism, if we finish on 34 points I would give everyone who likes this comment £100

I liked your comment and claim my £100

[fidelcastro]

The OP is on a wind-up, right?

[Vegas Claret]

Admire your optimism, if we finish on 34 points I would give everyone who likes this comment £100

careful, he didn't specify which season ! You should read the terms and conditions

[elwaclaret]

Admire your optimism, if we finish on 34 points I would give everyone who likes this comment £100

Being greedy taking the money off you, and getting to stay up… but hey it will pay for a good night, so thanks

[Vegas Claret]

The OP is on a wind-up, right?

is 'wind-up' code for 'strong drug' ?

[fidelcastro]

is 'wind-up' code for 'strong drug' ?

If he's not, he needs to be!

[Vegas Claret]

If he's not, he needs to be!

I mean, I'm aware I'm quite positive but I'm not expecting us to get to 20 points ! I admire his confidence though

[fidelcastro]

I mean, I'm aware I'm quite positive but I'm not expecting us to get to 20 points !

That's a few more than I was expecting.

There was more chance of you buying me a drink when I was in Vegas!

[Vegas Claret]

That's a few more than I was expecting.

There was more chance of you buying me a drink when I was in Vegas!

No problem, I know where to get a $1 bud

next time mate for sure should you come back

[fidelcastro]

No problem, I know where to get a $1 bud

next time mate for sure should you come back

My impression was that you were suffering from myroundophobia!

[Vegas Claret]

My impression was that you were suffering from myroundophobia!

I wish

[Burnley1989]

The OP is on a wind-up, right?

Sunday session surely? Tender Monday head this morning

[Clive 1960]

made the same mistake at home against the Hammers tried to shut up shop , you would think he had learned from that game but obviously not, best policy of defense is to attack in my eyes as they were leaving a lot of space to exploit and likes of Benson would have loved it..

[South West Claret.]

What with Forrest and Everton hopefully being docked sufficient points it still might be that Burnley do escape relegation this season.

[Robbie_painter]

Admire your optimism, if we finish on 34 points I would give everyone who likes this comment £100

More chance of winning the euro millions but you’ve got to be in it to win it!

[Quickenthetempo]

It wasn't the biggest mistake bringing Brownhill on. West Ham had to throw caution to the wind at 2-0 down. They threw plenty of attackers on.
The defence was struggling 2nd half as you would expect.
They had 4 shots on target all game. One pea rolled through to Trafford, another hit Paqueter (sp) a yard off the line and he let the other two in.
Trafford only had to make one proper save in the game and we win.
You can't have a GK who doesn't make saves in a relegation fight.

[jrgbfc]

Only need 6 wins and 2 draws to get us up to 34, no problem!

[Foshiznik]

There was me thinking we played well yesterday...

[ElectroClaret]

There was me thinking we played well yesterday...

We DID play well.
And still let a two goal lead slip.

God knows how many we'd have been beaten by if we'd been crap...

[CoolClaret]

There was me thinking we played well yesterday...

I thought we did as well.

If played like that every game this season we'd be absolutely fine. Think some are definitely over reacting - yes it's probably come to late but more performances like that to close the season will definitely be encouraging to take in to the summer/next season.

[Foshiznik]

We DID play well.
And still let a two goal lead slip.

God knows how many we'd have been beaten by if we'd been crap...

There will be better teams than us not win points against West Ham. Think our poor showing this season overall has thrown any realism our fans have out of the window.

[KRBFC]

It wasn't the biggest mistake bringing Brownhill on. West Ham had to throw caution to the wind at 2-0 down. They threw plenty of attackers on.
The defence was struggling 2nd half as you would expect.
They had 4 shots on target all game. One pea rolled through to Trafford, another hit Paqueter (sp) a yard off the line and he let the other two in.
Trafford only had to make one proper save in the game and we win.
You can't have a GK who doesn't make saves in a relegation fight.

Frightening this is the view of some of our fans, how can fans be this biased against one of our own players? I have never seen anything like it before.

[evensteadiereddie]

It is astonishing that a thread attacking Kompany morphs into a thread attacking Brownhill and morphs again into an attack on Trafford.
Every thread on this board seems to be hijacked by the same posters intent on repeating the same accusations and the same lines of criticism time after time.
They have the right to do that, undoubtedly, but its so effing tedious now.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

If Muric had played and Brownhill remained on the bench we’d have won that game 2-0 most likely.

[Clovius Boofus]

There will be better teams than us not win points against West Ham. Think our poor showing this season overall has thrown any realism our fans have out of the window.

Yesterday, reading this forum, I got the impression that some toys were well and truly out of the pram because we didn't get a hammering from the Hammers. Moving forward, there were lots of positives and well as negatives, but some people only want to look for the negatives, and then spend the next 7 days wallowing in it on here.

[Rileybobs]

We played ok in that we started on the front foot, which hasn’t really been an issue this season. We created very little in the first half and scored a worldie then lost control of the game, which has been an issue whenever we’ve taken the lead this season. The own goal gave us a flattering 2 goal lead at half time.

We were then battered for most of the second half, save for a spell in the middle where the tempo dropped. More individual mistakes, more square pegs in round holes, more frantic defending, more ill-discipline, no defensive organisation or shape. We were fortunate to escape with a point and I feel it would have only needed another 5 minutes for West Ham to score a winner.

A positive was that we looked to exploit West Ham’s reckless approach in the dying stages and but for some casual finishing we may have nicked all three points.

A good result, and better than a lot of performances this season but not convincing.

[Goody1975]

I'm actually the opposite of the opening poster.

I am firmly in the Kompany in camp but my support was beginning to wane after the Arsenal and Palace games.

Even though the past two performances have only got us one point it has been far more positive.

No matter what division we are in next season the last thing we need is a massive hangover from wretched performances to finish off the campaign.

It's not been great at all but not bad enough in the grand scheme of things to pot him

[Goliath]

We played ok in that we started on the front foot, which hasn’t really been an issue this season. We created very little in the first half and scored a worldie then lost control of the game, which has been an issue whenever we’ve taken the lead this season. The own goal gave us a flattering 2 goal lead at half time.

We were then battered for most of the second half, save for a spell in the middle where the tempo dropped. More individual mistakes, more square pegs in round holes, more frantic defending, more ill-discipline, no defensive organisation or shape. We were fortunate to escape with a point and I feel it would have only needed another 5 minutes for West Ham to score a winner.

A positive was that we looked to exploit West Ham’s reckless approach in the dying stages and but for some casual finishing we may have nicked all three points.

A good result, and better than a lot of performances this season but not convincing.

Dont agree with this. We were the better side comfortably in the first half and 2 up was the least we deserved. 2nd half we chucked a goal away immediately and then obviously came under pressure but we weathered the storm quite well and continued to be a big threat with fofana especially. We then came under a big wave near the end as they chucked everyone on and went for it, thats when we buckled but i dont think VK helped there by repeating his Brighton mistake and sticking 5 at the back.

We then had 2 huge chances to win it after going 2 2. To maintain a threat under that amount of pressure was impressive.

[Clovius Boofus]

Dont agree with this. We were the better side comfortably in the first half and 2 up was the least we deserved. 2nd half we chucked a goal away immediately and then obviously came under pressure but we weathered the storm quite well and continued to be a big threat with fofana especially. We then came under a big wave near the end as they chucked everyone on and went for it, thats when we buckled but i dont think VK helped there by repeating his Brighton mistake and sticking 5 at the back.

We then had 2 huge chances to win it after going 2 2. To maintain a threat under that amount of pressure was impressive.

Near enough word-for-word re my opinion of the match.

[alwaysaclaret]

Frightening this is the view of some of our fans, how can fans be this biased against one of our own players? I have never seen anything like it before.

No, you won't see anything like it, cos he has to be the worst we've ever had. I've tried to see positives as each week goes by but there was even 1 or 2 different schoolboy antics this week than I've previously seen. Coupled with vk's mindless changes and team selection they've double handedly produced a disastrous season, as has been already said, why try to mend something that's not broken.

[Quickenthetempo]

Frightening this is the view of some of our fans, how can fans be this biased against one of our own players? I have never seen anything like it before.

What do you disagree with?

[warksclaret]

Many fans of clubs that get relegated will spend part of the Summer feeling they have been hard done by.They will think of the VAR and refereeing decisions that went against them, and all the ifs and buts, missed chances, injuries.What has been coming through on this forum since Christmas is yes we are going down, we fully deserved it, and undoubtedly we are one of the worst three teams in the PL. So at least we have something to be thankful about

[KRBFC]

What do you disagree with?

The clear bias and hate against one of our young players.

Yesterday was absolutely nothing to do with Trafford and everything to do with the collapse in shape of the team and individual mistakes yet here you are blaming Trafford.

[Quickenthetempo]

The clear bias and hate against one of our young players.

Yesterday was absolutely nothing to do with Trafford and everything to do with the collapse in shape of the team and individual mistakes yet here you are blaming Trafford.

You make decent points.

But a decent keeper bails their side out. Keeps them in games. Ours doesn't.

I have remained patient long enough.

We don't judge players by them not making mistakes. They are judged on what they do in a game.

[Rileybobs]

You make decent points.

But a decent keeper bails their side out. Keeps them in games. Ours doesn't.

I have remained patient long enough.

We don't judge players by them not making mistakes. They are judged on what they do in a game.

Not many keepers save 2 on 1’s, and if they do it’s because the attackers have fudged their chance.

[Quickenthetempo]

Not many keepers save 2 on 1’s, and if they do it’s because the attackers have fudged their chance.

Have you watched the Liverpool 2nd keeper recently?

[Rileybobs]

Have you watched the Liverpool 2nd keeper recently?

Yes, I’ve seen the goalkeeper of the team sitting joint top of the Premier League a few times. I can’t recall him saving any 2 on 1’s though.

[South West Claret.]

What with Forrest and Everton hopefully being docked sufficient points it still might be that Burnley do escape relegation this season.

We can’t even defend a two goal lead so little hope of avoiding the drop now unfortunately, but could stay up if the above happens.

[Nori1958]

No, you won't see anything like it, cos he has to be the worst we've ever had. I've tried to see positives as each week goes by but there was even 1 or 2 different schoolboy antics this week than I've previously seen. Coupled with vk's mindless changes and team selection they've double handedly produced a disastrous season, as has been already said, why try to mend something that's not broken.

Woodworth, penny, the guy who let 5 in at Blackpool who's name escapes we.... How many more do you want listing that were far worse.. Stating he's the worst we've ever had is just a joke.

[Benson]

No, you won't see anything like it, cos he has to be the worst we've ever had. I've tried to see positives as each week goes by but there was even 1 or 2 different schoolboy antics this week than I've previously seen. Coupled with vk's mindless changes and team selection they've double handedly produced a disastrous season, as has been already said, why try to mend something that's not broken.

“worst we’ve ever had”

[claretonthecoast1882]

“worst we’ve ever had”

To be fair he could be alwaysaclaretsince2013

[Brugge Claret]

Definitely not the worse we’ve had but probably the worst at this level.

[mickleoverclaret]

Definitely better than Penny and Norris albeit very small sample sizes. Suspect he will have a better career than Jensen although I wouldn't say there's much between them in terms of Premier League performances thus far.

[Nori1958]

Definitely not the worse we’ve had but probably the worst at this level.

Jensen? At least he's not pretended to be injured yet