James Trafford England call up

[Indecisive]

Makes you wonder what Muric has done to p1ss Southgate off so much.

Yeah no cll up for Muric. Almost as shocking as Annti Niemi not getting picked for the Scotland team that time

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Has it been confirmed yet? I haven't seen it anywhere myself.

[Bosscat]

Has it been confirmed yet? I haven't seen it anywhere myself.

Its all over TwiXXer

[getbennyon]

Reflects poorly on Southgate and adds to his reputation that he doesn't make picks based on form.

[NL Claret]

Yeah no cll up for Muric. Almost as shocking as Annti Niemi not getting picked for the Scotland team that time

This crossed my mind the other day, he’s not finished, absolute class radio that was.

[TheFamilyCat]

Has anyone checked in on Jamesy and Bumba?

[fidelcastro]

Has anyone checked in on Jamesy and Bumba?

They're currently in Therapy.

[boatshed bill]

Frankly I'm amazed that any genuine Burnley fan can't see this as a positive.
And for those who don't understand why he may be in the squad: he's not been plucked from the ether he's been in the England system for years, and that is because he is/has been very highly rated.

[Bosscat]

Frankly I'm amazed that any genuine Burnley fan can't see this as a positive.
And for those who don't understand why he may be in the squad: he's not been plucked from the ether he's been in the England system for years, and that is because he is/has been very highly rated.

Am chuffed to bits for the lad ...

[Devils_Advocate]

Im pleased for Trafford but it adds to my worry that we will lose him to a Premier League team if we go down. I accept we're only likely to hang on to a talent like Trafford for two or three seasons but it would be a massive blow to lose him so quickly and before we see the best of him.

[dogwith3legs]

Im pleased for Trafford but it adds to my worry that we will lose him to a Premier League team if we go down. I accept we're only likely to hang on to a talent like Trafford for two or three seasons but it would be a massive blow to lose him so quickly and before we see the best of him.

Tedious at best

[Aclaret]

Im pleased for Trafford but it adds to my worry that we will lose him to a Premier League team if we go down. I accept we're only likely to hang on to a talent like Trafford for two or three seasons but it would be a massive blow to lose him so quickly and before we see the best of him.

Yeah but it's what we've always done in the history of our club DA, you know that.
We nurture a talent then sell them on.

[bumba]

You'd think the first thought of Burnley supporters would be being pleased for Trafford!

Not really because if England are to succeed and win a tournament in 2024 they won't do it with Trafford in goal.
We're all England fans too.

[Anonymous Claret]

Well done James.

[Vegas Claret]

You'd think the first thought of Burnley supporters would be being pleased for Trafford!

exactly, 2024 in a nutshell !

[taio]

Not really because if England are to succeed and win a tournament in 2024 they won't do it with Trafford in goal.
We're all England fans too.

I would suggest that Trafford will have no bearing on our success or otherwise during Euro 2024.

[Jamesy]

Has anyone checked in on Jamesy and Bumba?

I’m fine thanks. Although my stomach is sore and my sides have been splitting from laughing too long.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Two crucial points:

1. Fantastic for James, warm congratulations, reflects well on Burnley, and shows how well regarded he is, including by me, even if I would have chosen Muric this season. I have no doubts he is the number 1 heir apparent, should be for us and for England. Ahead of Ramsdale in due course.

2. Statistically, on merit, for the benefit of CoolClaret, this is an upgrade for the senior squad. On goals prevented vs expected, via Opta, Trafford this season ranks higher than the 30 year old Johnstone (though worse than the 30 year old Wes Foderingham). Wouldn’t surprise me given his age if he goes to the Euros though why Pope was frozen out before injury beggers belief (though that is only because that fool is in charge)..

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/08/premi ... C4yOC4wLjA.

[CoolClaret]

Two crucial points:

1. Fantastic for James, warm congratulations, reflects well on Burnley, and shows how well regarded he is, including by me, even if I would have chosen Muric this season. I have no doubts he is the number 1 heir apparent, should be for us and for England. Ahead of Ramsdale in due course.

2. Statistically, on merit, for the benefit of CoolClaret, this is an upgrade for the senior squad. On goals prevented vs expected, via Opta, Trafford this season ranks higher than the 30 year old Johnstone (though worse than the 30 year old Wes Foderingham). Wouldn’t surprise me given his age if he goes to the Euros though why Pope was frozen out before injury beggers belief (though that is only because that fool is in charge)..

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/08/premi ... C4yOC4wLjA.

xG, xG differential and xG prevented/expected is good to look at for some trends - to try and use it as quantitive metric for deciding on goalkeepers ability with such small differences like that is a bit silly.

[CoolClaret]

Final comment on this -

If JT just so happened to play for another club and had performed similarly then no doubt some of the posters on here would rightly be questioning Southgate for the call-up.

[Jamesy]

Southgate will probably include Henderson and Phillips in his Euro squad so he may as well chuck Trafford in as well, and leave three better players at home.

[Juan Tanamera]

Southgate will probably include Henderson and Phillips in his Euro squad so he may as well chuck Trafford in as well, and leave three better players at home.

Phew! For a moment there I though you were losing your touch.

[IanMcL]

Squad is fine. Playing is different.

[Jamesy]

Phew! For a moment there I though you were losing your touch.

No chance! I comment on what I can see with my own eyes. My eyesight is still good, however I had to rub my eyes quite hard a couple of hours ago when I saw the heading of this thread.
I thought I must be dreaming, or over tired, or it was suddenly April 1st.

[Aclaret]

No chance! I comment on what I can see with my own eyes. My eyesight is still good, however I had to rub my eyes quite hard a couple of hours ago when I saw the heading of this thread.
I thought I must be dreaming, or over tired, or it was suddenly April 1st.

I guess your surname isn't Trafford then Jamesy ?

[Cirrus_Minor]

Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs

[South West Claret.]

You cannot be serious!

[CrosspoolClarets]

xG, xG differential and xG prevented/expected is good to look at for some trends - to try and use it as quantitive metric for deciding on goalkeepers ability with such small differences like that is a bit silly.

The main football analytical advsiors such as DribLab tend to disagree.

Also, when we look at the table, it makes sense when we see who is top. Of course, there are other factors, like distribution, but Trafford is better than Johnstone in this key area for keepers (though worse than most of the EPL).

Such a shame though that we have to pull these stats out to support our young keeper from attacks from his own club’s fans (albeit a small minority) on what is probably the proudest day of his life. Don’t think anyone is arguing he is (yet) ready to replace Pickford.

[boatshed bill]

This should come as a great boost in confidence for young Trafford but before you outraged England "fans" get your knickers in a twist he won't be in the next squad, he is available in this break to sit on the bench rather than GS call another keeper in at late notice.

[CoolClaret]

The main football analytical advsiors such as DribLab tend to disagree.

Also, when we look at the table, it makes sense when we see who is top. Of course, there are other factors, like distribution, but Trafford is better than Johnstone in this key area for keepers (though worse than most of the EPL).

Such a shame though that we have to pull these stats out to support our young keeper from attacks from his own club’s fans (albeit a small minority) on what is probably the proudest day of his life. Don’t think anyone is arguing he is (yet) ready to replace Pickford.

It's not an 'attack' on JT, stop being hysterical.

& no you can't use data to make quantitive statements like that. There's a lot more than that, that goes into evaluating a goalkeeper.

[Leisure]

Final comment on this -

Fingers crossed!

[Boss Hogg]

Southgate often picks players on how they do for England instead of their clubs. Look at Pickford and Maguire when their form dipped. He is already in the fold. Good experience for him but the keeper we had playing for us last weekend is still the keeper we should have started the season with. This selection Is nothing or little to do with his club performances.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Well done James.
His outstanding performances haven’t gone unnoticed- apart from many on this forum
Hope the experience does him the world of good

[South West Claret.]

Who was the last Burnley player to be selected to play for England ?

[Swizzlestick]

Who was the last Burnley player to be selected to play for England ?

Pope I would imagine.

[kentonclaret]

Yeah but it's what we've always done in the history of our club DA, you know that.
We nurture a talent then sell them on.

To nurture: To care for or protect (someone or something) whilst they are growing.

The posts undermining Trafford on this board as opposed to nurturing him probably in the region of 10 to 1.

[BurnleyFC]

Well done James.
His outstanding performances haven’t gone unnoticed- apart from many on this forum
Hope the experience does him the world of good

You do yourself no favours. He hasn’t been outstanding.

He’s had a couple of very good performances, but has had a few poor performances, too. Overall, he’s been just about OK.

I hope he has a really good experience with the senior England squad, though.

[JarrowClaret]

Sorry for expressing an opinion, just find it strange.

What do you find strange about this? It has happened a few times in the past where the u21 keeper has been called up to cover as 3 rd choice for experience. He isn’t going to play so no harm done only positives to this for him and hopefully us.

[Jamesy]

Well done James.
His outstanding performances haven’t gone unnoticed- apart from many on this forum
Hope the experience does him the world of good

Great wind up pal.

[Cooclaret]

Absolutely deserved.

Said he would go to the next big tournament with England months ago and got ridiculed by the usual (and some now departed) posters.

He’s going to be the next England keeper post T Rex arms.

[Jakubclaret]

Southgate often picks players on how they do for England instead of their clubs. Look at Pickford and Maguire when their form dipped. He is already in the fold. Good experience for him but the keeper we had playing for us last weekend is still the keeper we should have started the season with. This selection Is nothing or little to do with his club performances.

Spot on. Sam Johnson couldn't get in goal for palace whilst hodgson was there he picked Henderson it's only since glasners took over SJs reclaimed his spot back.

[claretonthecoast1882]

You'd think the first thought of Burnley supporters would be being pleased for Trafford!

Ha, you didn't really did you ?

Those who have had an agenda since the opening day line up was revealed aren't going to chance tact now and be pleased for him and his confidence.

Still at least there is no agenda towards him on here as we are told.

[jlup1980]

Fair play JT, it's a surprise but any Burnley player getting into the England squad is a huge deal. Perfect timing for him as well, as I'm sure his confidence was hit when Muric started last week.

[bumba]

Ha, you didn't really did you ?

Those who have had an agenda since the opening day line up was revealed aren't going to chance tact now and be pleased for him and his confidence.

Still at least there is no agenda towards him on here as we are told.

Sick of hearing about an agenda, he's been rubbish all season bar a couple of games/halves. How is that an agenda?

Is he the 3rd best English keeper about.....no!
Does he deserve to be in the England squad......no!
As an England fan do I want him anywhere near the England squad yet......no!

Did our last game not show you it wasn't an agenda but people calling it out for what it were and that we've relegated ourselves through persisting with him?

[bumba]

To nurture: To care for or protect (someone or something) whilst they are growing.

The posts undermining Trafford on this board as opposed to nurturing him probably in the region of 10 to 1.

Shame VK didn't nurture him isn't it

[Ric_C]

Absolutely staggering if true

[Culmclaret]

One for the future and I am sure he will go on to be a first class keeper. Only time will tell whether being thrown into the PL well before he was ready has helped or hindered his development. Hopefully this will help his confidence. His selection is a good thing however you look at it.

[It Is What It Is]

Well Done JT.
Good for experience and confidence to train with the England Senior Squad.
He is the Engand No 1 u 21 keeper for a reason. He is a very good keeper and will be another "Pope" in a season or two.

[ClaretTony]

David James, former England goalkeeper, was predicting a call up before the latest squad was announced. He didn't have Ramsdale in his three on the basis that he wasn't playing for Arsenal and, of course, Southgate always picks players in form.

[Jamesy]

Well Done JT.
Good for experience and confidence to train with the England Senior Squad.
He is the Engand No 1 u 21 keeper for a reason. He is a very good keeper and will be another "Pope" in a season or two.

The James Trafford appreciation society must have been absolutely creaming themselves when this news broke.
Vincent Kompany has got a real dilemma on his hands now who to start for the Chelsea game.