Frigging hope so!jrgbfc wrote:I think the people with 6000 have got a decent chance. There's a hell of a lot of people who use other people's Clarets numbers for big away games. Take this out of the equation and think we'll see a big difference.
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CT,
Will you be passing on to the club that this system of points will mean that parents with children attending will be very limited ?
Will you be passing on to the club that increasing the level of points required doesn't really mean that the uber fan gets rewarded with a ticket?
Will you be passing on to the club that the current system of points for getting tickets to the big games (as `iffy` as it is) wasn't really broken so why meddle with it for this game?
Am I right in assuming supporters clubs WON'T get their usual allocation, leaving the coaches full of strangers, and the usual travellers sat at home?
Is there an option for foundation members who pay an annual fee to help the club and give themselves a chance at tickets? If they have no option, why did they join the scheme?
Cheers
Will you be passing on to the club that this system of points will mean that parents with children attending will be very limited ?
Will you be passing on to the club that increasing the level of points required doesn't really mean that the uber fan gets rewarded with a ticket?
Will you be passing on to the club that the current system of points for getting tickets to the big games (as `iffy` as it is) wasn't really broken so why meddle with it for this game?
Am I right in assuming supporters clubs WON'T get their usual allocation, leaving the coaches full of strangers, and the usual travellers sat at home?
Is there an option for foundation members who pay an annual fee to help the club and give themselves a chance at tickets? If they have no option, why did they join the scheme?
Cheers
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I was told this was proposed at Burnley but the supporters' group were against itclaretrobo1 wrote:So, correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t Sunderland tried a system where loyalty resets after 3-5 years so it gives an idea on the more active and loyal fans at the time? Has it been a success and surely would it be a much fairer method? I get that every system will screw some people up but at least it doesn’t eliminate the younger generation completely?
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But doing it this way is fair, because it means everyone there will be their on their own merit of their own loyalty points rather than just taking one off a mate over a supporter on higher loyalty points than them who loses their chance to go.KlyBfc wrote:The extreme sanctions / consequence of getting caught are very strange. I know an awful lot of United and Liverpool fans who travel across Europe with away tickets bought off people who can’t go or don’t want to go. Exactly the same for home games where season ticket holders purchase the tickets and sell them on.
I’m sure the Aberdeen fans have down exactly that as well during their trips across Europe in the past.
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Supporters clubs have no option to purchase tickets for their members.
The fans that travel regular, purchasing through their supporters club will not gain the loyalty points either.
The fans that travel regular, purchasing through their supporters club will not gain the loyalty points either.
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Strange how the main people who are unhappy are the people who don't have enough points. In my opinion, you have the points - you've supported the club more than others and deserve priority (I'm not one of them btw).
There won't be that many people with over 9000 points anyway I'd wager.
There won't be that many people with over 9000 points anyway I'd wager.
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I think this is totally right by the club
With only 2000 tickets and the biggest night in the club's history for over 50 years
The older fans have first right as the dad's of the younger fans have paided for there kids and accumulated there points in many cases
Some fans have followed the club through thick and thin and been a ticket holder for years
They should have first priority I would be so annoyed if I did not get a ticket in front of the younger generation when you have followed the club around for years
It's no one's fault it's a massive game with few tickets
So that's why this is my thinking the club has it Bob on UTC
With only 2000 tickets and the biggest night in the club's history for over 50 years
The older fans have first right as the dad's of the younger fans have paided for there kids and accumulated there points in many cases
Some fans have followed the club through thick and thin and been a ticket holder for years
They should have first priority I would be so annoyed if I did not get a ticket in front of the younger generation when you have followed the club around for years
It's no one's fault it's a massive game with few tickets
So that's why this is my thinking the club has it Bob on UTC
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Did you know of a reason as to why it was in the supporter clubs' interest to oppose it?jordsclarets wrote:I was told this was proposed at Burnley but the supporters' group were against it
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That's not entirely fair. The club has colluded in some weird practices regarding supporters' clubs for years. To pull the rug out now with no warning is harsh but it's what's gone on for years is the root problem. I'm unhappy with the points system but will get one.whiffa wrote:Strange how the main people who are unhappy are the people who don't have enough points. In my opinion, you have the points - you've supported the club more than others and deserve priority (I'm not one of them btw).
There won't be that many people with over 9000 points anyway I'd wager.
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What a crock of ****. What makes a 28 year old who's had a season ticket since they became working age any less of a fan than a 50 year old?whiffa wrote:Strange how the main people who are unhappy are the people who don't have enough points. In my opinion, you have the points - you've supported the club more than others and deserve priority (I'm not one of them btw).
There won't be that many people with over 9000 points anyway I'd wager.
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Nothing wrong with it
The only thing I disagree with is the way the club was giving a big swing in points away a few years back
The only thing I disagree with is the way the club was giving a big swing in points away a few years back
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It's the first time we've been in Europe for decades. As a 30 year old, who has only had 6-8 season tickets in his life (I attend 5 or 6 away games a season when tickets are spare) due to work commitments - I appreciate that older fans, and fans who have been to more games than me deserve a priority for tickets for a European away game ahead of me.thatdberight wrote:That's not entirely fair. The club has colluded in some weird practices regarding supporters' clubs for years. To pull the rug out now with no warning is harsh but it's what's gone on for years is the root problem. I'm unhappy with the points system but will get one.
Am I gutted that I can't get a ticket? Yes of course - but it's the only fair way to do it and I'd feel guilty if a fan of 40+ years who has dedicated much more money and time to the club than I can afford was to miss out for someone like me.Murger wrote:What a crock of ****. What makes a 28 year old who's had a season ticket since they became working age any less of a fan than a 50 year old?
Somebody has to be unhappy, but the fans with the most points deserve priority - whether we like it or not. That doesn't make you any less of a fan and nobody is implying that. Have some respect.
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I agree with you on supporters club, the issue isn't giving or not giving them tickets for this game its the fact supporters clubs have been getting tickets for regular away fans for years, and to pull it away unannounced is unfair, these people may have been going for years but have nowhere near enough points because they get tickets through supporters clubs, it should have been the case that as soon as the loyalty points system came into place the supporters clubs stopped getting tickets and that way everyone would have their own individual points, and if they had been to enough games, have a chance at an Aberdeen ticketthatdberight wrote:That's not entirely fair. The club has colluded in some weird practices regarding supporters' clubs for years. To pull the rug out now with no warning is harsh but it's what's gone on for years is the root problem. I'm unhappy with the points system but will get one.
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'you've supported the club more than others and deserve priority (I'm not one of them btw)'
So they've supported them more because they're older. Isn't that just ageist?
So they've supported them more because they're older. Isn't that just ageist?
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I get that and not questioning the basics of the policy just not sure how the extreme sanction is warranted. Hardly pitch encroachment or hooliganism is it, people passionate about watching their club. It’s also a tough one in many ways because the way the points system is currently set up means I very rarely get away points because my mate always buys the away tickets (his dad doesn’t go away but has loads of points) so we are sat together, rather than me waiting for my priority period and us being separate. I accumulate through the season ticket and cup matches but not the away games. Now I’m not aggrieved at all (it is what it is) with not getting a ticket, but I am disappointed because this was my chance to see Burnley in Europe as im away for the next 3 ties Home or away and so might not see Burnley actually play in Europe.Tuddybfc wrote:But doing it this way is fair, because it means everyone there will be their on their own merit of their own loyalty points rather than just taking one off a mate over a supporter on higher loyalty points than them who loses their chance to go.
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Murger wrote:'you've supported the club more than others and deserve priority (I'm not one of them btw)'
So they've supported them more because they're older. Isn't that just ageist?
You're digging holes in what I'm saying - age is irrelevant. If someone has more points - they've been to more games and given more money to the club.I appreciate that older fans, and fans who have been to more games than me
I said I was 30 only to imply that at similar ages, we can still have a difference of opinion.
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Regardless of whether the system is appropriate or not anybody with 8000+ points deserves to get first dibs at the tickets.
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Life isn't fairTuddybfc wrote:My point wasn't financial, it was to do with points. If U18s could get tickets at 4000 points yet myself (On over 6000) couldn't because I am a few months older, that's hardly a fair system.
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*hypothetical life, if you had read the conversation rather than just coming on to make a sarcastic commentdeanothedino wrote:Life isn't fair
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I 've been a fan for over 40 years
Now I live abroad every game I attend is like watching the club in Europe as I have to catch a plane and been doing this for 6 years now and attend about 8 to 10 matches a season before that I lived in the Midlands and had a season ticket for 17 years while I was there
And 15 years while I lived in whalley
I would love to get my hand on a wonker ticket as that how rare they will be but accept that I won't and think the club has this spot on
Now I live abroad every game I attend is like watching the club in Europe as I have to catch a plane and been doing this for 6 years now and attend about 8 to 10 matches a season before that I lived in the Midlands and had a season ticket for 17 years while I was there
And 15 years while I lived in whalley
I would love to get my hand on a wonker ticket as that how rare they will be but accept that I won't and think the club has this spot on
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Does anyone know the amount of supporters with over 8,000 points? Be good of the club to release that information.
Got 7 tickets to get; 3 with of 8,000 points and 4 over 7,000. So don’t know whether to hold on ‘til day 2 or split buying them over 2 days... If the sales get to Day 2!
Got 7 tickets to get; 3 with of 8,000 points and 4 over 7,000. So don’t know whether to hold on ‘til day 2 or split buying them over 2 days... If the sales get to Day 2!
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It's truly bizarre that the club refuse to release this info. If somebody would give a half-decent reason, I'd listen to it. But I can't imagine what it is.cav wrote:Does anyone know the amount of supporters with over 8,000 points? Be good of the club to release that information.
Got 7 tickets to get; 3 with of 8,000 points and 4 over 7,000. So don’t know whether to hold on ‘til day 2 or split buying them over 2 days... If the sales get to Day 2!
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That's standard policy at most clubs from people I've talked to. Burnley have the novel system with the never-expiring points.claretrobo1 wrote:So, correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t Sunderland tried a system where loyalty resets after 3-5 years so it gives an idea on the more active and loyal fans at the time? Has it been a success and surely would it be a much fairer method? I get that every system will screw some people up but at least it doesn’t eliminate the younger generation completely?
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A friend of a friend works in the ticket office and reckons there's about 800 with over 8000 points.cav wrote:Does anyone know the amount of supporters with over 8,000 points? Be good of the club to release that information.
Got 7 tickets to get; 3 with of 8,000 points and 4 over 7,000. So don’t know whether to hold on ‘til day 2 or split buying them over 2 days... If the sales get to Day 2!
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Of course they were, as long as they're happy, f**k the rest of usjordsclarets wrote:I was told this was proposed at Burnley but the supporters' group were against it
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In theory there should not be anybody under 18 there for the away leg - be interesting to see how these tickets filter out.
People above saying “well, those adults have paid for their kids tickets/points for years” - I pay for my nephews ticket and I dragged him on games when he had no clue about football and when he’d just attend so he could have the HT pie...... I did it so he can enjoy moments like this too..... it’s all well and good looking after “the oldies” but the youngsters will be funding the club for many many more years if given the chance to do so.
People above saying “well, those adults have paid for their kids tickets/points for years” - I pay for my nephews ticket and I dragged him on games when he had no clue about football and when he’d just attend so he could have the HT pie...... I did it so he can enjoy moments like this too..... it’s all well and good looking after “the oldies” but the youngsters will be funding the club for many many more years if given the chance to do so.
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Thanks BonesBones wrote:A friend of a friend works in the ticket office and reckons there's about 800 with over 8000 points.
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I read the whole conversation. Didn’t make life fair though!Tuddybfc wrote:*hypothetical life, if you had read the conversation rather than just coming on to make a sarcastic comment
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I couldn’t make the game anyway, but wouldn’t have enough points regardless.
I suspect this with 5,000 points might have a chance with the final few hundred, but the majority will go to those with 6,000-7,000 points. I’d have thought with people on holiday, and some not wanting to go anyway, we’ll sell only a few hundred to those with 8,000+ points, and similar numbers for 7,000-8,000.
If you’ve not got 5,000 then forget it. Wait for the next round (wishful thinking) and a long flight away where people won’t want to travel or spend £400 for one game.
I suspect this with 5,000 points might have a chance with the final few hundred, but the majority will go to those with 6,000-7,000 points. I’d have thought with people on holiday, and some not wanting to go anyway, we’ll sell only a few hundred to those with 8,000+ points, and similar numbers for 7,000-8,000.
If you’ve not got 5,000 then forget it. Wait for the next round (wishful thinking) and a long flight away where people won’t want to travel or spend £400 for one game.
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I hope this means that all the ****** up young dickheads who travel with the various supporters clubs, and are nowhere near old enough to have enough loyalty points have no chance to attend the game at Pittodrie. I have hardly missed a game home or away in the last 10 years, but could not afford a season ticket for home games until 2008, and always paid on the gate since 1975 which means I don't have enough points. Am I right to have a grievance If I don't get a ticket ????????
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The entire Bob Lord stand are turning up with flasks, blankets and telescopes, the atmosphere will be sh**e.bfccrazy wrote:In theory there should not be anybody under 18 there for the away leg - be interesting to see how these tickets filter out.
People above saying “well, those adults have paid for their kids tickets/points for years” - I pay for my nephews ticket and I dragged him on games when he had no clue about football and when he’d just attend so he could have the HT pie...... I did it so he can enjoy moments like this too..... it’s all well and good looking after “the oldies” but the youngsters will be funding the club for many many more years if given the chance to do so.
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I think the reset scheme is the way to go. I have over 8000 points and go to 15 plus away games a season and still think the way it's done is wrong. Why should someone who hardly ever goes to an away game be in front of a young person who has been to most of the games home and away who started watching Burnley say 5 years ago. It wasn't something i'd ever thought about until I was talking to two 16 year old lads away at West Brom who had been to all the away games that season except for Man Utd and Huddersfield because of the points system and they honestly don't think they will ever get to see Burnley play at Old Trafford. It just doesn't seem right to me
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'...Got 7 tickets to get; 3 with of 8,000 points and 4 over 7,000. So don’t know whether to hold on ‘til day 2 or split buying them over 2 days... If the sales get to Day 2!...'
this is often the problem for away games when friends have different loyalty points...if you want to sit together (& why wouldn't you?) then you have to wait + gamble that ticket allocation goes down to the level of your friend with the lowest loyalty points of your group!
this is often the problem for away games when friends have different loyalty points...if you want to sit together (& why wouldn't you?) then you have to wait + gamble that ticket allocation goes down to the level of your friend with the lowest loyalty points of your group!
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Mate, Aberdeen have started a similar scheme and I was happy to part with my hard earned cash for FIVE.
At the end of the day it's the club that benefits and BT were VERY generous in the bonus stakes for the customer retention team.
I was happy to invest it back in the club I love.
At the end of the day it's the club that benefits and BT were VERY generous in the bonus stakes for the customer retention team.
I was happy to invest it back in the club I love.
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I keep seeing people ask for a reset but I don’t agree. I believe that it should be based upon a rolling 5 seasons. So now we should be looking at 2013/14 - 2017/18 for next season. That way it’s those attending in the last few years, but doesn’t penalise too heavily those who haven’t been able to attend for a particular season, for say illness, loss of job etc.bfcmartin wrote:I think the reset scheme is the way to go. I have over 8000 points and go to 15 plus away games a season and still think the way it's done is wrong. Why should someone who hardly ever goes to an away game be in front of a young person who has been to most of the games home and away who started watching Burnley say 5 years ago. It wasn't something i'd ever thought about until I was talking to two 16 year old lads away at West Brom who had been to all the away games that season except for Man Utd and Huddersfield because of the points system and they honestly don't think they will ever get to see Burnley play at Old Trafford. It just doesn't seem right to me
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People will only come round to this way of thinking when they have kids themselves and have to tell them they have no chance of going to the big games as loyalty points will keep rising as fast as you could earn them.bfcmartin wrote:I think the reset scheme is the way to go. I have over 8000 points and go to 15 plus away games a season and still think the way it's done is wrong. Why should someone who hardly ever goes to an away game be in front of a young person who has been to most of the games home and away who started watching Burnley say 5 years ago. It wasn't something i'd ever thought about until I was talking to two 16 year old lads away at West Brom who had been to all the away games that season except for Man Utd and Huddersfield because of the points system and they honestly don't think they will ever get to see Burnley play at Old Trafford. It just doesn't seem right to me
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Are the tickets for the home leg going to work on a similar basis or will current season ticket holders get priority ?
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Claretforever that's actually what i mean't whereas its automatically reset over the last five years
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Other clubs have something along the lines of:
100% of points earned in last two seasons
75% of points earned from three seasons ago
50% of points earned from four seasons ago
25% of points earned from five seasons ago
It rewards the fans who constantly go, if you've been going for a number of years you'll still be ahead of those who only started in the past couple of years.
100% of points earned in last two seasons
75% of points earned from three seasons ago
50% of points earned from four seasons ago
25% of points earned from five seasons ago
It rewards the fans who constantly go, if you've been going for a number of years you'll still be ahead of those who only started in the past couple of years.
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I'd guess most of those whose voice is heard are past the having kids stage.Quickenthetempo wrote:People will only come round to this way of thinking when they have kids themselves and have to tell them they have no chance of going to the big games as loyalty points will keep rising as fast as you could earn them.
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Why would they use a similar basis for the home ticked?Blackrod wrote:Are the tickets for the home leg going to work on a similar basis or will current season ticket holders get priority ?
I’ve never known the club sell home tickets based on points. They’ll do it like they’ve done cup cames in previous seasons with STH having opportunity to purchase their seats then “open sale”
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8,000 points
I wonder if there'll be many folk blaming Steve Cotterill for not having enough points?
I wonder if there'll be many folk blaming Steve Cotterill for not having enough points?
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Blackrod wrote:Are the tickets for the home leg going to work on a similar basis or will current season ticket holders get priority ?
from BFC site Blackrod:
The return leg is scheduled for Thursday 2nd August. Tickets for this game are due to go on sale on 9th July, with season ticket holders given 6 days to purchase their seat. From Monday 14th July all seats in the stadium will be on general sale. Further details will be announced in due course.
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In the scenario where you have purchased a ticket for someone else, and then they get arrested, it will be your loyalty points and reputation on the line and I suspect you’d also face a ban from games for doing so - that’s not a risk I would take, perhaps you would?jrgbfc wrote:Unless we send some of our own staff up there who is going to be checking tickets? The local stewards and police won't give a monkeys who is in the away end I would have thought.
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Thank you. I'd missed this.claretblue wrote:from BFC site Blackrod:
The return leg is scheduled for Thursday 2nd August. Tickets for this game are due to go on sale on 9th July, with season ticket holders given 6 days to purchase their seat. From Monday 14th July all seats in the stadium will be on general sale. Further details will be announced in due course.
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Because a driving licence without a correct address is not a valid driving licence. It’s an offence to drive with an incorrect address on the licence.Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:I'm well aware of that, you're missing my point. I am saying that the way the article on the official website is phrased suggests that a passport with address matching the Clarets Number address is provided.
If a passport without matching address is accepted as ID, why specify driving licence with matching address? Would a driving licence without matching address be accepted?
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14th July is a Saturday.... simple details the club ought to get right!claretblue wrote:from BFC site Blackrod:
The return leg is scheduled for Thursday 2nd August. Tickets for this game are due to go on sale on 9th July, with season ticket holders given 6 days to purchase their seat. From Monday 14th July all seats in the stadium will be on general sale. Further details will be announced in due course.
Re: Aberdeen v Burnley - Ticket Information
The biggest criticism of the loyayty points system is the misuse of the family and friends whereby if someone without the required points knows someone who has the points and doesnt go to away games they can use their claret numbers.
As someone who has only missed 6 games in tbe last 10 years,for family reasons as family always comes first,I was more than annoyed not to gey tickets for Hudderfield away despite having over 9000 loyalty points.The system where you need ID and 8000 pts seems fairer although something perhaps need to be done for under 18's but at that age misuse of passports could be an issue as they change a lot in appearance and passports dont reflect that.
In the end I did manage to get tickets for Huddersfield
As someone who has only missed 6 games in tbe last 10 years,for family reasons as family always comes first,I was more than annoyed not to gey tickets for Hudderfield away despite having over 9000 loyalty points.The system where you need ID and 8000 pts seems fairer although something perhaps need to be done for under 18's but at that age misuse of passports could be an issue as they change a lot in appearance and passports dont reflect that.
In the end I did manage to get tickets for Huddersfield
Re: Aberdeen v Burnley - Ticket Information
The biggest criticism of the loyayty points system is the misuse of the family and friends whereby if someone without the required points knows someone who has the points and doesnt go to away games they can use their claret numbers.
As someone who has only missed 6 games in tbe last 10 years,for family reasons as family always comes first,I was more than annoyed not to gey tickets for Hudderfield away despite having over 9000 loyalty points.The system where you need ID and 8000 pts seems fairer although something perhaps need to be done for under 18's but at that age misuse of passports could be an issue as they change a lot in appearance and passports dont reflect that.
In the end I did manage to get tickets for Huddersfield
As someone who has only missed 6 games in tbe last 10 years,for family reasons as family always comes first,I was more than annoyed not to gey tickets for Hudderfield away despite having over 9000 loyalty points.The system where you need ID and 8000 pts seems fairer although something perhaps need to be done for under 18's but at that age misuse of passports could be an issue as they change a lot in appearance and passports dont reflect that.
In the end I did manage to get tickets for Huddersfield
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Re: Aberdeen v Burnley - Ticket Information
Has someone ever been arrested for trying to enter a stadium with another's ticket? Tickets get passed on all the time friends not attending, corporate, especially music tickets on auction sites. Agree though the club could refuse to sell future tickets to the personRick_Muller wrote:In the scenario where you have purchased a ticket for someone else, and then they get arrested, it will be your loyalty points and reputation on the line and I suspect you’d also face a ban from games for doing so - that’s not a risk I would take, perhaps you would?