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Your team v West Ham

Postby Mala591 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:01 am

4-4-1-1

Cork to be rested for this one

----------Hart
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Westwood Brady
---------Vydra
---------Barnes
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby FactualFrank » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:02 am

Mala591 wrote:4-4-1-1

Cork to be rested for this one

----------Hart
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Westwood Brady
---------Vydra
---------Barnes


I'd swap Barnes with Wood.
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:06 am

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Hendrick Defour Westwood
Gudmundsson Vydra
Vokes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby claretspice » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:09 am

----------------Hart
Bardsley Tarks Mee Taylor
Lennon Defour Hendrick JBG
----------Brady/Vdyra
-------------Vokes


Lowton's defending in the last 2 weeks has looked extremely suspect to me, so serious case for a change at right back. We need Hendrick's physicality and athleticism in midfield - you can certainly make a case for Westwood to play as well in a 4-5-1, but I'd like to see someone get closer to Vokes. If suggested playing Brady infield if he's fit - he's played that role a lot for Ireland - but it may be a bridge too far if he's not quite fit yet.

The alternative, as last week, might be to play Hendrick on the left side, tucking in to support Westwood and Defour.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Leyland Claret » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:28 am

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Westwood Brady
Vydra
Vokes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Sproggy » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:56 am

Heaton
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Hendrick Brady
Vydra
Wood

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Mala591 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:11 am

For a 'significant' shake up of the first team squad (which is sometimes a necessary thing to do) then 4-4-2

No balls above head height :-)

Heaton
Bardsley Long Tarks Taylor
JBG Defour Westwood McNeil
Brady Vydra

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Flat Stanley » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:17 am

Hart
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Cork or Hendrick Brady
Vydra
Vokes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Iloveyoubrady » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:19 am

Sproggy wrote:Heaton
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Hendrick Brady
Vydra
Wood


This.

Best team we have.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Bosscat » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:26 am

Sproggy wrote:Heaton
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Hendrick Brady
Vydra
Wood


Agreed

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Goobs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am

Would have:

Hart
Lowton (improve or be dropped) Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Defour Brady
Vydra
Vokes / Wood

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:35 am

Goobs wrote:Would have:

Hart
Lowton (improve or be dropped) Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Defour Brady
Vydra
Vokes / Wood


`IOBD` could catch on!

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby claretcarrot93 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:30 pm

Bosscat wrote:Agreed


Also agree. A good footballing midfield that. Hendrick can also carry. They should provide service and if you give Wood service he scores.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Belial » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:52 pm

(4 0 6)
Hart
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor

-

Vydra Vokes Barnes Wood Brady Lennon



The way we've played recently, this would suit

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby moaninclaret » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:34 pm

I agree wiyh Mala591,our strongest 11.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Colburn_Claret » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:55 pm

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Hendrick Brady
Vydra
Vokes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby ClaretTony » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:13 pm

I knew who'd started the thread that Hendrick wouldn't be in it

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby BOYSIE31 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:22 pm

Be same as last sunday but westwood for cork

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby BOYSIE31 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I knew who'd started the thread that Hendrick wouldn't be in it


Real love in you have for Hendrick Tony - please explain why because i dont get him also.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Braindead » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:34 pm

Hart
Lowton, Tarkowski, Long, Taylor
JGB, Defour, Hendrick, Brady
Vydra
Barnes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby ClaretTony » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:35 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Real love in you have for Hendrick Tony - please explain why because i dont get him also.


Don't have a love in at all, but, overall, I think he's been one of our better players this season. If I was picking the team he'd be in ahead of both Westwood and Cork on current form. If you don't get him, you probably haven't noticed how poor Cork has been either.
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby taio » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:43 pm

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Cork Brady
Vydra
Vokes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby BOYSIE31 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:43 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Don't have a love in at all, but, overall, I think he's been one of our better players this season. If I was picking the team he'd be in ahead of both Westwood and Cork on current form. If you don't get him, you probably haven't noticed how poor Cork has been either.


I agree with you on current form but then again they have all been poor all season but its a shame the manager and the man that counts does not and will shoe him into his new role again tomorrow with exactly the same outcome.

Blind men and stan and all that comes to mind.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby ClaretTony » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:05 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:I agree with you on current form but then again they have all been poor all season but its a shame the manager and the man that counts does not and will shoe him into his new role again tomorrow with exactly the same outcome.

Blind men and stan and all that comes to mind.


Don't agree with you at all. He's played well in both positions this season. Probably no surprise that his best performances come away from home given the abuse he gets on the Turf. Was just the same with Robbie Brady last season.
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Goobs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:12 pm

I agree that Hendrick has probably been the best of the other 3 CMs however I'm not sure him and Defour would work as a two so would have Westwood as think they would work better.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby BOYSIE31 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Don't agree with you at all. He's played well in both positions this season. Probably no surprise that his best performances come away from home given the abuse he gets on the Turf. Was just the same with Robbie Brady last season.


Dont agree further forward as he is not comfortable and not in the game enough and not good enough.
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby BOYSIE31 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:38 pm

No 10's are to create and score and he has 1 goal which he did his best to miss on the day - cant remember any lovely through balls or assists but that could just be my memory.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Safron » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:11 pm

Can't see any changes tomorrow,as dyche said it's up to the player's to keep the shirt! On performances this season I think we all know that it's a load of sh#te

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby jedi_master » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:55 pm

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Gibson Mee
JBG Defour Cork Brady
Vydra
Vokes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Vintage Claret » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:58 pm

4-4-2

Hart
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Hendrick Brady
Vydra Wood
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby bluelabrador16 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:33 pm

Hart

Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor

JBG Westwood Defour Brady

Lennon Vydra

A fluid 4..5..1 formation
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby RVclaret » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:06 pm

Hart
Lowton
Tark
Mee
Taylor
JBG
Defour
Cork
Brady
Vydra
Wood

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Claretuk » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Don't have a love in at all, but, overall, I think he's been one of our better players this season. If I was picking the team he'd be in ahead of both Westwood and Cork on current form. If you don't get him, you probably haven't noticed how poor Cork has been either.

If he plays midfield then yeah I would have him in, but if dyche sticks with his No 10 role then he has to be dropped as he is absolutely useless in that role n looks like a rabbit in the headlights & he should be replaced with Vydra tomorrow...
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby ClaretTony » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:52 pm

Claretuk wrote:If he plays midfield then yeah I would have him in, but if dyche sticks with his No 10 role then he has to be dropped as he is absolutely useless in that role n looks like a rabbit in the headlights & he should be replaced with Vydra tomorrow...


Your view - not mine and not Dyche's either - he's just become a target. And I wouldn't replace him with Vydra because I don't think we should be going with two forwards. We might do, but I wouldn't.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Top Claret » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:19 pm

Hart.. Taylor, Long, Tarks, Lowton... Brady, Defour, Cork, Hendrick, Jbg.... Barnes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby Stayingup » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:31 pm

We beat them 3-0 with Barnes and Wood up front. So why not the same paring again.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:22 am

ClaretTony wrote:I knew who'd started the thread that Hendrick wouldn't be in it


Is that not allowed? Does he have to select Hendrick?

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:26 am

ClaretTony wrote:Your view - not mine and not Dyche's either - he's just become a target. And I wouldn't replace him with Vydra because I don't think we should be going with two forwards. We might do, but I wouldn't.


`I don't think we should be going with two forwards` - wouldn`t Vydra be classed as more of an advanced midfielder in a 4-4-1-1?

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby claretspice » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:56 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:`I don't think we should be going with two forwards` - wouldn`t Vydra be classed as more of an advanced midfielder in a 4-4-1-1?


It's a question of degree (formations are never as rigid on the field as they are on paper) but Vydra definitely plays further up the field than Hendrick, who would regularly drop behind Cork or Defour into the central 2.

On last Sunday's evidence there would seem to be a good case that Defour needs that extra cover in midfield.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:24 am

claretspice wrote:It's a question of degree (formations are never as rigid on the field as they are on paper) but Vydra definitely plays further up the field than Hendrick, who would regularly drop behind Cork or Defour into the central 2.

On last Sunday's evidence there would seem to be a good case that Defour needs that extra cover in midfield.


Point A ^ concur
Point B ~ the evidence this season is that we just need more `fight` & confidence in possession in midfield...

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby JohnMac » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:33 am

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Hendrick Westwood Brady
Barnes

It's a nick a 1-0 from a set piece line up.

I have no problem with Sam but feel he will be wasted up front as we will revert to hoofing it. Wood has looked lost and Lennon offers less than JBG and hopefully Brady.

Vydra will get his chance.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby RocketLawnChair » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:50 am

From last weeks team I’d change Long for Mee whose been absolutely shocking all season and continuously picking somebody whose playing so poorly sends out the wrong message to the rest of the squad.
And Vydra for Vokes because Hendrick and Vokes together are far to static.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby No Ney Never » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:10 am

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Gibson Taylor
JBG Westwood Defour Brady
Vyagra
Wood

I'm expecting;
Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Cork Defour Brady
Hendrick
Vokes

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby FactualFrank » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:16 am

No Ney Never wrote:Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Gibson Taylor
JBG Westwood Defour Brady
Vyagra
Wood

I'm expecting;
Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Cork Defour Brady
Hendrick
Vokes


Gibson is to see a specialist.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby FactualFrank » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:24 am

I notice West Ham will be without their captain Noble today, which is a plus.

For me, this is the sort of game to keep the ball on the ground and have a good linkup play with the likes of Defour, Brady, JBG, Vydra and Wood.
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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby taio » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:01 pm

Hendrick on the bench.

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby paulatky » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:15 pm

Brady benched to allow Lennon to return

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Re: Your team v West Ham

Postby claretspice » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:47 pm

Brave team.


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