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Your team v Leicester

Post by Mala591 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:43 pm

4-1-4-1 for me

with Westwood--Defour--Hendrick

OR Westwood--Defour--Cork

staying 'anchored' in central midfield.

JBG and Brady with fluid roles between wing and number 10 position.

Could play Barnes or Vokes or Wood as centre forward - not much to choose between them at the moment.

-------------Heaton
Lowton---Tarks---Mee---Taylor
-------------Defour
JBG--Westwood--Hendrick--Brady
-------------Vokes

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:04 pm

Hart
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
JBG Hendrick Defour Brady
Wood Barnes

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by moaninclaret » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:37 pm

Hope Hendrick is left out, Westwood is my preference, is Lennon injured ?

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by NL Claret » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:43 pm

Hart
Bardsley Long Mee Taylor
JBG Westwood Defour Hendrick Brady
Barnes

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by PictoPirate » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:43 pm

With Tarky out we don't have much choice at the back so I'd go:

Heaton (Hart out just for his new dodgy tattoo)

Taylor Mee Long Lowton

Cork Defour
Brady Vydra JBG

Vokes

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:46 pm

PictoPirate wrote:With Tarky out we don't have much choice at the back so I'd go:

Heaton (Hart out just for his new dodgy tattoo)

Taylor Mee Long Lowton

Cork Defour
Brady Vydra JBG

Vokes
Snap

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by claretfern » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:58 pm

Heaton
Bardsley Long Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Hendrick Brady
Vydra Wood

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Goobs » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:04 pm

Hart
Bardsley Long Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Westwood Brady
Vydra
Wood

Heaton Lowton Lennon Barnes Vokes Hendrick Cork

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Paddy1882 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:24 pm

Hart
Lowton long mee Taylor
Defour Westwood
Jbg vydra brady
Wood

4-2-3-1 more than enough technical ability in that team try and play football and get plenty of crosses in for wood to attack

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by TVC15 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:31 pm

Hart
Lowton, Mee, Long, Taylor
JBG, Defour, Cork, Brady
Vydra
Wood

Can’t see anything other than a convincing Leicester victory tbh.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by No Ney Never » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:44 pm

Hart

Lowton, Long, Mee, Taylor

Westwood

JBG, Defour, Cork, Lennon,

Wood

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:45 pm

Hart,
Lowton, Long, Mee, Taylor,
JBG, Defour, Westwood, Hendrick, Brady,
Vokes.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:48 pm

Heaton

Lowton Long Mee Taylor

Cork Hendrick
JBG Vydra Brady
Wood
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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by claretspice » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:03 pm

Really, really tough this. I'm assuming though that Cork is fit. If not, Westwood would come in. Ditto, if Tarks isn't fit, Long comes in.

------Hart
Bardsley Tarks Mee Taylor
Lennon Cork Hendrick JBG
------------Brady
------------Barnes

The obvious casualty here is Defour, who wouldn't even come in if Cork is out for me. He's been well of the pace in the two games I've seen him in (admittedly, top sides) and the highlights last week suggested he was similarly chasing shadows at West Ham. Leicester are a team packed with pace and power which suggests a similar problem is possible. I'd give him a breather, making sure he's ready for the Newcastle and Palace games, when he really will become important to us.

Meanwhile, we simply have to get more athleticism into midfield, so Hendrick would be the first name onto the sheet for me (reflecting his performances this season when played in that role). You can make a decent case that even if Cork is fit, Westwood should get the nod - another assist last week (albeit in what sounds like an otherwise lamentable performance) to go with previous assists against Bournemouth and Cardiff shouldn't be overlooked. Indeed, Westwood and Hendrick is the only central 2 I've seen look like a 2 this season and whenever they've previously played together they've brought the best out of each other.

We do need Brady's creativity in Defour's absence, but by playing him in the "number 10" role (where he's played for Ireland), his rustiness off the ball shouldn't be so badly exposed (we've tried Defour in this role once - ironically at Leicester 2 years ago - and it went badly).

Up top, you can make a good argument for all of Barnes, Wood and Vokes. Vokes has generally been good this season, but away from home there's a worry he's too static to make the most of the sort of ball we often force him to live off, whilst Wood doesn't always prosper with his back to goal, so Barnes may be the man.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by exilecanada » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:43 pm

Hart, Heaton, Lindegaard, Ledzdins.

Lowton, Bardsley, Mee, Long, Tarky, Ward, Taylor.

:lol:

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by jurek » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:49 pm

Tricky one this is but for me:

Hart
Lowton Mee Long Taylor
JBG Defour, Cork (or Hendrick) Brady
Vydra, Wood

I feel we need to give Vydra a start alongside Wood but
I'm far from certain Dyche will think the same.

Woever does start it's going to be a difficult game to get much out of
as Leicester will certainly be up for this one.
A much improved performance and no injuries will suffice for me
even if we lose.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:00 pm

Heaton
Lowton
Taylor
Mee
Long
Defour
Cork
Hendrick
Brady
JBG
Wood

Defour always looks better in a midfield 3 and Brady and JBG have the ability to defend and get forward to support Wood.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by RVclaret » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:11 pm

Heaton
Lowton
Long
Mee
Taylor
JBG
Defour
Cork
Brady
Vydra
Wood

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Goobs » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:18 pm

exilecanada wrote:Hart, Heaton, Lindegaard, Ledzdins.

Lowton, Bardsley, Mee, Long, Tarky, Ward, Taylor.

:lol:
Why no Pope I believe? He is back in training which I think is more than we can say about Ward. Also isn't Tarks also injured? :roll: :D

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by exilecanada » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:36 pm

Goobs wrote:Why no Pope I believe? He is back in training which I think is more than we can say about Ward. Also isn't Tarks also injured? :roll: :D

My apologies, I didn’t realize Pope was back in training. In that case, he’ll warm the bench in case Hart happens to put a hair out of place :roll:

As for Tarky and Ward, my bad, I forgot they had ‘ouchies’. I didn’t include Gibson, as I know he recently underwent surgery.

In any case, I think you get the gist for my team selection :lol:
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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by CFS » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:39 pm

Hart
Lowton long mee Taylor
Jbg cork defour Brady
Wood
Vokes

No Madison or Maguire for Leicester. Big opportunity to get 3 points here.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by tiger76 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:13 pm

CFS wrote:Hart
Lowton long mee Taylor
Jbg cork defour Brady
Wood
Vokes

No Madison or Maguire for Leicester. Big opportunity to get 3 points here.
I knew Maguire was doubtful didn't realise Maddison wouldn't feature,the most important aspect is not to gift stupid goals,if we can stay in the game a chance will come to nick a goal

Hart
Lowton Long Mee Taylor
Jbg Westwood Defour Brady
Wood Vydra

Lennon and Vokes are useful options from the bench.

We have to give Leicester some defending to think about,if we allow wave after wave of attacks eventually we'll get drowned.

Sadly can only see a 2-0 reverse here.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by MDWat » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:08 pm

Hart
Lowton Long Mee Taylor
Gudmundsson Defour Cork Hendrick Brady
Wood

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:42 am

claretspice wrote:Really, really tough this. I'm assuming though that Cork is fit. If not, Westwood would come in. Ditto, if Tarks isn't fit, Long comes in.

------Hart
Bardsley Tarks Mee Taylor
Lennon Cork Hendrick JBG
------------Brady
------------Barnes

The obvious casualty here is Defour, who wouldn't even come in if Cork is out for me. He's been well of the pace in the two games I've seen him in (admittedly, top sides) and the highlights last week suggested he was similarly chasing shadows at West Ham. Leicester are a team packed with pace and power which suggests a similar problem is possible. I'd give him a breather, making sure he's ready for the Newcastle and Palace games, when he really will become important to us.

Meanwhile, we simply have to get more athleticism into midfield, so Hendrick would be the first name onto the sheet for me (reflecting his performances this season when played in that role). You can make a decent case that even if Cork is fit, Westwood should get the nod - another assist last week (albeit in what sounds like an otherwise lamentable performance) to go with previous assists against Bournemouth and Cardiff shouldn't be overlooked. Indeed, Westwood and Hendrick is the only central 2 I've seen look like a 2 this season and whenever they've previously played together they've brought the best out of each other.

We do need Brady's creativity in Defour's absence, but by playing him in the "number 10" role (where he's played for Ireland), his rustiness off the ball shouldn't be so badly exposed (we've tried Defour in this role once - ironically at Leicester 2 years ago - and it went badly).

Up top, you can make a good argument for all of Barnes, Wood and Vokes. Vokes has generally been good this season, but away from home there's a worry he's too static to make the most of the sort of ball we often force him to live off, whilst Wood doesn't always prosper with his back to goal, so Barnes may be the man.
Difficult as always to find fault with your logic but I`m plumping for...

Hart (would be tempted with Heaton but not going to happen)

Lowton Long Mee Taylor

Hendrick Defour Westwood (think this combo will get the best out of Defour at the mo)

Gudmundsson Brady

Wood (interested to see how he would play will a slightly narrower Brady)


I would watch this team and have some hope of actual attacking intent.

p.s. have just seen that Maguire and Maddison are lilkely to be absent for Leicester - has to be very good news.
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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:01 am

Heaton
Bardsley Long Mee Taylor
MacNeil Defour Hendrick JBG
Barnes Wood

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:27 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Heaton
Bardsley Long Mee Taylor
MacNeil Defour Hendrick JBG
Barnes Wood
Completely forgot about McNeil. What`s the situation there??? Did he do something naughty with Vydra? :o He looked a real prospect and had a cracking left peg on him if a little lacking in strength and pace (in my limited opinion of watching him).

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by vinrogue » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:01 am

5 - 0, 4 - 0, 4 - 2, would I change things? Yes.

Heaton (Captain)
Lowton, Long, Mee, Taylor
Cork Defour Hendrick
JBG.........................Brady
.......this is a tough call

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:47 am

vinrogue wrote:5 - 0, 4 - 0, 4 - 2, would I change things? Yes.

Heaton (Captain)
Lowton, Long, Mee, Taylor
Cork Defour Hendrick
JBG.........................Brady
.......this is a tough call
Again, very difficult to disagree with. The goalkeeper situation is a really tricky one and if people say it isn`t, I think they are wrong. There COULD be an issue with communication. Our players are very much set in the Dyche way of things and that may include how we set up to `channel` teams into specific shooting areas. It helped incredibly that added to that tactic last season was Pope`s fantastic authority in the box. Take away that and add a keeper in Hart (who has made some excellent saves) who maybe does struggle to be part of a Dyche defensive unit, then it NOT folly to suggest Heaton should return. It would seem on the surface incredibly unfair on Hart, but we ARE shipping goals for fun.
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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:08 am

Not too many choosing Lennon - but I’d be amazed if he was dropped even though it’s obvious that Brady should start

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Safron » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:18 am

Don't want to sound negative but no matter what team we put out will not be good enough to get anything here,even forgetting the occasion which will make it doubly hard

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Mala591 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:12 pm

Maybe it's time for a REAL shake up of the squad:

Heaton
Bardsley Long Mee Taylor
JBG Defour Hendrick McNeil
Wood Brady

'The best form of defence is attack'

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by claretspice » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:45 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Difficult as always to find fault with your logic but I`m plumping for...

Hart (would be tempted with Heaton but not going to happen)

Lowton Long Mee Taylor

Hendrick Defour Westwood (think this combo will get the best out of Defour at the mo)

Gudmundsson Brady

Wood (interested to see how he would play will a slightly narrower Brady)


I would watch this team and have some hope of actual attacking intent.

p.s. have just seen that Maguire and Maddison are lilkely to be absent for Leicester - has to be very good news.
The trouble with this is that it doesn't deal with the opposition full backs. One of our problems recently - as observed by Carragher, amongst others - is that at times our full backs appear to be having to defend wider, so the back 4 is not as narrow. Changing the shape so that we either have no wide midfielders, or have wide midfielders given a more attacking brief, would appear to exacerbate this problem not solve it. Fair enough, if we were confident we could get enough ball to control the centre of midfield and stop Leicester working it wide and bring their full backs in particular into the attack - but does anyone seriously think this is likely? Even as a successful team, we've had to absorb pressure from more athletic and technically talented teams at times.

Dyche has never relaxed his expectation that the wide midfielders work the entire length of the pitch, and I can't imagine he'll start now.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by EarbyClaret » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:46 pm

Hart

Bardsley - let's forego the attacking outlet. Desperately need to tighten up. Lowton has been out of form for several weeks.
Long
Mee
Taylor

JBG - to get forward in support of Vokes
Cork
Westwood
Hendrick - played as a CM
Brady - see JBG

Vokes - difficult call but as a starting option Sam offers more in both boxes.

Vydra for one of the CMs if we need to change the shape to 4-4-2 later in the game. Vokes/Barnes/Wood inter-changeable

In the unlikely event that we are trying to see the game out introduce Defour for improved ball retention/passing accuracy.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by colne-claret » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:49 pm

Heaton
Lowton Long Mee Taylor
JBG Cork Defour Brady
Vydra
Wood

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:32 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:Not too many choosing Lennon - but I’d be amazed if he was dropped even though it’s obvious that Brady should start
Probably because unless we start getting hold of the ball he has absolutely no impact.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:05 am

claretspice wrote:The trouble with this is that it doesn't deal with the opposition full backs. One of our problems recently - as observed by Carragher, amongst others - is that at times our full backs appear to be having to defend wider, so the back 4 is not as narrow. Changing the shape so that we either have no wide midfielders, or have wide midfielders given a more attacking brief, would appear to exacerbate this problem not solve it. Fair enough, if we were confident we could get enough ball to control the centre of midfield and stop Leicester working it wide and bring their full backs in particular into the attack - but does anyone seriously think this is likely? Even as a successful team, we've had to absorb pressure from more athletic and technically talented teams at times.

Dyche has never relaxed his expectation that the wide midfielders work the entire length of the pitch, and I can't imagine he'll start now.
You`re right, it won`t happen - I`d just like to see it. I honestly think, especially this season, when we are not playing the Top 6, we need to give the opposition something to think about. We have to get away from this notion that we have to stop the opposition playing their game. It seems the go to at the moment and it is NOT working. We also have to take into account that without (apparently) Maddison and Maguire they are significantly weakened so let`s have a bloody go at them.

My team, unlike many of Dyche`s recent outings, has flexibility as an option, within its framework. If their fullbacks are causing trouble, then very well, change the defensive shape to a 4-4-1-1. Can we PLEASE though look at least interested in holding onto the ball and playing it through the team rather than the ole Ray Deakin tactic which we have been going to.

I`m frankly bored watching us at the moment - there`s nothing to get me conversing with the PC screen. My wife, not once, this season has told me to shut up, whilst watching from midnight. NOT ONCE. Last season it was an all too common occurrence meaning we actually were doing something right. We certainly are NOT this season.

You might be right, claretspice, and my ideas may all be pure fantasy, but if we cannot make the best use of the likes of Defour, Brady, GUdmundsson and Vydra (all players who have the ability to maintain possession of the ball) against the `lesser lights`, then we might as well just accept the inevitable. ALL OPINION!

Whatever tam he puts out, let`s just hope they do us proud and get my wife hurling some abuse at me around 1:30am tomorrow.

COME ON BURNLEY!
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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:49 am

Wood
Bardsley Long Mee Ward
JBG Defour Hendrick Brady
Heaton Hart

Might confuse Leicester
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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Richardsbfc » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:09 am

Surprising to see so many people pick Bardsley and Vokes.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by taio » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:18 am

Hart
Lowton Long Mee Taylor 
JBG Hendrick Defour Cork Brady
Vokes

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:01 am

Hart
Lowton Long Mee Taylor
Brady Defour Hendrick Westwood JBG
Vokes

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:10 am

Why anyone would go 442 is beyond me given the recent inability of our midfield to protect the defence.

Hart / Heaton
Lowton long mee Taylor
JBG defour cork Westwood brady
Wood

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:16 am

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Why anyone would go 442 is beyond me given the recent inability of our midfield to protect the defence.

Hart / Heaton
Lowton long mee Taylor
JBG defour cork Westwood brady
Wood
You`re spot on. A midfield 2 has been scary this season. Let`s just hope Cork (if played) can hit the ground running and IF he goes for the 5 `in midfield`, there`s a fluency and flexibility to it all.

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by BFC88 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:03 am

Heaton
Lowton
Long
Mee
Taylor
JBG
Defour
Cork
Brady
Wood
Barnes

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Re: Your team v Leicester

Post by brexit » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:17 am

hart
Taykor mee long
cork hendrick
JBG vydra brady
wood barnes

nuclear option

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