Magic Numbers 2018/2019
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Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Can I please request that aggi makes one of those wonderful spreadsheets again?
Until then I’ll do them manually,so to speak.
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Until then I’ll do them manually,so to speak.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Superb. The season starts here !
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I'll sort one out next weekend.
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Where will we set our magic number? 40 points and Premier League safety? i.e. a minimum of 3 clubs can't finish above us; 55 and good chance of being in Europa again? i.e. 13 clubs will finish below us.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Set it at forty: four-zero. That is the only target to contemplate for now!
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37 is the new 40!
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I think it'll take a record number of points to stay up this season.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Ah, the Magic Numbers. All is well.
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I suffer from insomnia. Could we have the annual explanation of the magic numbers algorithm..
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When the magic number for a team hits zero, they can’t mathematically overtake us in the league. 3 teams do that, and we stay in the Premier League. Easy.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
W/E 11.08.18
Match day 1
Liverpool.............-1.........114
Chelsea ..............-1.........114
Bournemouth .......-1.........114
Palace ................-1.........114
Man City .............-1.........114
Watford ..............-1.........114
Man Utd ..............-1.........114
Tottenham............-1.........114
Everton ...............-3.........112
Wolves ................-3.........112
Burnley
Southampton .......-3.........112
Leicester.............-4.........111
Newcastle ...........-4.........111
Arsenal ...............-4........111
Brighton ..............-4........111
Cardiff.................-4........111
Fulham ................-4........111
Huddersfield .........-4........111
West Ham .............-4........111
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Match day 1
Liverpool.............-1.........114
Chelsea ..............-1.........114
Bournemouth .......-1.........114
Palace ................-1.........114
Man City .............-1.........114
Watford ..............-1.........114
Man Utd ..............-1.........114
Tottenham............-1.........114
Everton ...............-3.........112
Wolves ................-3.........112
Burnley
Southampton .......-3.........112
Leicester.............-4.........111
Newcastle ...........-4.........111
Arsenal ...............-4........111
Brighton ..............-4........111
Cardiff.................-4........111
Fulham ................-4........111
Huddersfield .........-4........111
West Ham .............-4........111
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
I can't see us getting 110 points.
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More negativity on this board. Give it a rest, will ya?Caernarfon_Claret wrote:I can't see us getting 110 points.
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Neither can I.Caernarfon_Claret wrote:I can't see us getting 110 points.
I Reckon we will get the 114
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You do realize the positivity gene is recessive don't you?TheFamilyCat wrote:More negativity on this board. Give it a rest, will ya?
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New season should be here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For some reason the Sky Sports table I was using wouldn't work any more so I'm now using the Guardian's table. If it doesn't seem to be updating let me know and I'll find another to use.
As per last season I'm ignoring goal difference so the magic number is the absolute number of points required to overtake us (i.e. to be one point ahead of us).
I've hidden the stuff based on form for the moment, will show that when we've played some more games.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For some reason the Sky Sports table I was using wouldn't work any more so I'm now using the Guardian's table. If it doesn't seem to be updating let me know and I'll find another to use.
As per last season I'm ignoring goal difference so the magic number is the absolute number of points required to overtake us (i.e. to be one point ahead of us).
I've hidden the stuff based on form for the moment, will show that when we've played some more games.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
The points of other teams must have gone down a fair bit!
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Gained six points against a few sides.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
W/E 05/10/2018
Match day 7
Man City.............106
Liverpool ...........106
Chelsea .............104
Tottenham .........102
Arsenal .............102
Watford .............100
Bournemouth ......100
Leicester ............99
Wolves ...............99
Man Utd .............97
Everton ..............96
Burnley
Palace ...............94
West Ham ...........94
Brighton .............92
Southampton .......92
Fulham...............92
Newcastle ...........89
Cardiff ...............89
Huddersfield ........89
Would be nice to see at least another 3 teams under 90 after Saturday
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Match day 7
Man City.............106
Liverpool ...........106
Chelsea .............104
Tottenham .........102
Arsenal .............102
Watford .............100
Bournemouth ......100
Leicester ............99
Wolves ...............99
Man Utd .............97
Everton ..............96
Burnley
Palace ...............94
West Ham ...........94
Brighton .............92
Southampton .......92
Fulham...............92
Newcastle ...........89
Cardiff ...............89
Huddersfield ........89
Would be nice to see at least another 3 teams under 90 after Saturday
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
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Last seasons thread
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Last seasons thread
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Taken from last years thread
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Bottom 6
Sorry 7
All under 90
After 7 matches
Brighton -6............89
West Ham -3...........89
Everton-6...............89
Leicester -5............87
Swansea-6..............87
Bournemouth -5.......86
Crystal palace -6......82
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Bottom 6
Sorry 7
All under 90
After 7 matches
Brighton -6............89
West Ham -3...........89
Everton-6...............89
Leicester -5............87
Swansea-6..............87
Bournemouth -5.......86
Crystal palace -6......82
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
After Match week 8 , going into the international break....
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
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Match week 10 now complete, brings into focus our next 4 opponents .... West Ham, Newcastle, Leicester and Palace ...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Match week 12 all done, going into another interminable International break ....
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Match week 16 almost complete, apart from Everton v Watford, which is the Monday game !!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
I had it explained to me last season and I was still none the wiser.
Ah well, back to staring at the league tables on Teletext.
Ah well, back to staring at the league tables on Teletext.
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I oddly found myself thinking “we’ll be fine” after looking at this. When I’ve worried about is going down before it.Clarets4me wrote:Not had a look at these for a while ....
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Based on form over last 10 games it expects us to finish 19th. Form over last 6 games finish level with Southampton on 17th.
It's our lowest ever points haul at this time in a PL season. It's still very worrying.
It's our lowest ever points haul at this time in a PL season. It's still very worrying.
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Match week 21 virtually complete, with the exception of Man.City v Liverpool, the result of which won't affect us much ..
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
The last two results have greatly improved things ..... Fulham would be a great one to win !!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
The last two results have greatly improved things ..... Fulham would be a great one to win !!
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Fulham is massive for obvious reasons. Win that and we go 7 clear of them.
Just had a look at the fixtures and I have us getting to 33 points with 5 games left. The next game after that? Cardiff at home. That could be pivotal.
Then we have our awful last 4 fixtures
It’s going to be very tight
Just had a look at the fixtures and I have us getting to 33 points with 5 games left. The next game after that? Cardiff at home. That could be pivotal.
Then we have our awful last 4 fixtures
It’s going to be very tight
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Bumped for brexit
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This should be an easier link to view it (but doesn't have the historic tabs which I sometimes remember to do)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... ingle=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... ingle=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
A look back to week 30 from last year gives us similar figures to week 21 this time.
Still falls on us to garner enough points to get their magic number tumbling.
Still falls on us to garner enough points to get their magic number tumbling.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Over the last 3 matches the magic numbers have dropped by
Everton .............73.....-15...58....still to play Bournemouth at home so could drop to 55.
Bournemouth ......72.....-14...58....still to play Everton away today so could drop to 55.
Brighton ............68.....-14...54
Palace...............65.....-15...50
Southampton ......61.....-14...47
Cardiff...............61....-14....47
Newcastle...........63....-17....46
Fulham..............57....-15....42
Huddersfield ......56....-17.....39
Can there be a bad result for us in the Everton Bournemouth match. One drops by 3 or both by 2.
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Everton .............73.....-15...58....still to play Bournemouth at home so could drop to 55.
Bournemouth ......72.....-14...58....still to play Everton away today so could drop to 55.
Brighton ............68.....-14...54
Palace...............65.....-15...50
Southampton ......61.....-14...47
Cardiff...............61....-14....47
Newcastle...........63....-17....46
Fulham..............57....-15....42
Huddersfield ......56....-17.....39
Can there be a bad result for us in the Everton Bournemouth match. One drops by 3 or both by 2.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Next 4 fixtures for each club
Burnley
Watford away
Man Utd away
Southampton home
Brighton away
Everton
Southampton away
Huddersfield away
Wolves home
Watford away
Bournemouth
West Ham home
Chelsea home
Cardiff away
Liverpool away
Brighton
Man Utd away
Fulham away
Watford home
Burnley home
Palace
Liverpool away
Southampton away
Fulham home
West Ham
Southampton
Everton home
Palace home
Burnley away
Cardiff home
Cardiff
Newcastle away
Arsenal away
Bournemouth home
Southampton away
Newcastle
Cardiff home
Man City home
Tottenham away
Wolves away
Fulham
Tottenham home
Brighton home
Palace away
Man Utd home
Huddersfield
Man City home
Everton home
Chelsea away
Arsenal home
Newcastle Fulham and Huddersfield look to have the worst fixtures over the next 4 matches.
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Burnley
Watford away
Man Utd away
Southampton home
Brighton away
Everton
Southampton away
Huddersfield away
Wolves home
Watford away
Bournemouth
West Ham home
Chelsea home
Cardiff away
Liverpool away
Brighton
Man Utd away
Fulham away
Watford home
Burnley home
Palace
Liverpool away
Southampton away
Fulham home
West Ham
Southampton
Everton home
Palace home
Burnley away
Cardiff home
Cardiff
Newcastle away
Arsenal away
Bournemouth home
Southampton away
Newcastle
Cardiff home
Man City home
Tottenham away
Wolves away
Fulham
Tottenham home
Brighton home
Palace away
Man Utd home
Huddersfield
Man City home
Everton home
Chelsea away
Arsenal home
Newcastle Fulham and Huddersfield look to have the worst fixtures over the next 4 matches.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
A bit of perspective
Huddersfield are currently 10 points behind us and with their next 4 fixtures that will leave them with just 12 matches to win at least 4 more than us to finish above us.
Fulham are 7 points behind us and also have 4 difficult fixtures so assuming we get the same number of points over the next four matches they would have to win 3 more than us to finish above us.
I guess that means in some ways it’s who out of the rest has the worst form over the rest of the season goes down.
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Huddersfield are currently 10 points behind us and with their next 4 fixtures that will leave them with just 12 matches to win at least 4 more than us to finish above us.
Fulham are 7 points behind us and also have 4 difficult fixtures so assuming we get the same number of points over the next four matches they would have to win 3 more than us to finish above us.
I guess that means in some ways it’s who out of the rest has the worst form over the rest of the season goes down.
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I reckon it'll take a record number of points to stay up this season.
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hope you are well matefidelcastro wrote:I reckon it'll take a record number of points to stay up this season.
PL is a toss division, the points required will get lower every season I reckon
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No need for so much scrolling.Vince Fontaine wrote:Next 4 fixtures for each club
Burnley
Watford away
Man Utd away
Southampton home
Brighton away
Everton
Southampton away
Huddersfield away
Wolves home
Watford away
Bournemouth
West Ham home
Chelsea home
Cardiff away
Liverpool away
Brighton
Man Utd away
Fulham away
Watford home
Burnley home
Palace
Liverpool away
Southampton away
Fulham home
West Ham
Southampton
Everton home
Palace home
Burnley away
Cardiff home
Cardiff
Newcastle away
Arsenal away
Bournemouth home
Southampton away
Newcastle
Cardiff home
Man City home
Tottenham away
Wolves away
Fulham
Tottenham home
Brighton home
Palace away
Man Utd home
Huddersfield
Man City home
Everton home
Chelsea away
Arsenal home
Newcastle Fulham and Huddersfield look to have the worst fixtures over the next 4 matches.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Matchday 23 (22)
they drop again.
Everton................-4....54
Bournemouth...........-1....54
Brighton...............-4....50
Palace.................-4....46
Southampton.........-1....46
Burnley
Newcastle.............-1...45
Cardiff................-4....43
Fulham................-1....41.....played 22 still to play Tottenham at Home
Huddersfield..........-1...38......played 22 still to play Man City at Home
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they drop again.
Everton................-4....54
Bournemouth...........-1....54
Brighton...............-4....50
Palace.................-4....46
Southampton.........-1....46
Burnley
Newcastle.............-1...45
Cardiff................-4....43
Fulham................-1....41.....played 22 still to play Tottenham at Home
Huddersfield..........-1...38......played 22 still to play Man City at Home
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Match Day 23 completed for all 20 Clubs .....
It's looking increasingly like Huddersfield, Fulham and one other .... as the National Lottery advert used to say, please don't let it be us !!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
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It's looking increasingly like Huddersfield, Fulham and one other .... as the National Lottery advert used to say, please don't let it be us !!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =267725110
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
This weeks midweek fixtures
Arsenal v Cardiff
Fulham v Brighton
Huddersfield v Everton
Wolves v West Ham
Man Utd v Burnley
Newcastle v Man City
Bournemouth v Chelsea
Southampton v palace
Liverpool v Leicester
Tottenham v Watford
Hopefully one or two around us drop a little more
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Arsenal v Cardiff
Fulham v Brighton
Huddersfield v Everton
Wolves v West Ham
Man Utd v Burnley
Newcastle v Man City
Bournemouth v Chelsea
Southampton v palace
Liverpool v Leicester
Tottenham v Watford
Hopefully one or two around us drop a little more
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Southampton-Palace is the real 6 pointer there,a draw is probably the best result for us from that fixture,you wouldn't expect ourselves Cardiff or Newcastle to pick any points up midweek,Fulham and Huddersfield have to win to give either the faintest glimmer of hope.
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Re: Magic Numbers 2018/2019
Week 24
30/01/2019
Not all the results went for us last night but the magic numbers tumble once again
West Ham ..............-4.........51
Bournemouth ..........-1.........53.....still to play Chelsea
Brighton ................-4.........46
Newcastle ..............-1.........44
Burnley
Palace ..................-1.........45......still to play Southampton
Southampton ..........-1.........45......still to play Palace
Cardiff .................-4..........39
Fulham .................-1.........37
Huddersfield ..........-4..........31
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30/01/2019
Not all the results went for us last night but the magic numbers tumble once again
West Ham ..............-4.........51
Bournemouth ..........-1.........53.....still to play Chelsea
Brighton ................-4.........46
Newcastle ..............-1.........44
Burnley
Palace ..................-1.........45......still to play Southampton
Southampton ..........-1.........45......still to play Palace
Cardiff .................-4..........39
Fulham .................-1.........37
Huddersfield ..........-4..........31
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Palace..........-2.....43
Southampton..-2.....43
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Southampton..-2.....43
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This weekends fixtures
Tottenham v Newcastle
Brighton v Watford
Burnley v Southampton
Chelsea v Huddersfield
Palace v Fulham
Cardiff v Bournemouth
West Ham v Liverpool
Could be some big reductions come Saturday night
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Tottenham v Newcastle
Brighton v Watford
Burnley v Southampton
Chelsea v Huddersfield
Palace v Fulham
Cardiff v Bournemouth
West Ham v Liverpool
Could be some big reductions come Saturday night
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