Labour MP Guilty And Could Be Jailed

biggles · Post by **biggles** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:06 pm

Fiona Onasanya Labour MP for Peterborough has been suspended from the Labour Party for perverting the course of justice. Another of Corbyn's harem, another solicitor. I guess that if you put yourself on a pedestal you really should stay within the laws of the land and never, ever kid yourself that you are above all that stuff. Just who can we, the people of the UK trust? Certainly not the legal profession nor many MPs if she is an example of those professions. Thereby not the people who run the UK. I am no Tory supporter but certain biased people on here aren't slow to post when a Tory has 'strayed'.

TeesClaret · Post by **TeesClaret** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:16 pm

Definition of Politics. Poly meaning Of the people and Tics meaning Blood Sucking Parasites.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:19 pm

Good to see she has got her comeuppance.

Yours,

A "lefty"

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:28 pm

Lie to the law then you go to jail. She'll deserve it.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:29 pm

biggles wrote: I am no Tory supporter but certain biased people on here aren't slow to post when a Tory has 'strayed'.

Such as?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:30 pm

I can't see how she can remain an MP,whether she is jailed or not,in her defence she claimed she was suffering from an MS relapse,while being pursued for the NIP fair enough,but why lie about who was driving when she would have only received 3 points on her licence.

Makes for an intriguing by-election assuming one is held soon,the Conservatives will be confident of gaining the seat she only had a majority of 600 or so.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:32 pm

To quote Corbyn "stupid woman "

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:33 pm

A very bad decision to not come clean about who was driving. Nobody of good judgement would contemplate risking all that she did just to avoid a speeding charge. Couldnt even come up with a decent "this other person was driving" story- the guy she nominated wasnt even in the country.
I hope she gets some jail time otherwise even more MPs will be thinking they're above the law.
Chris Huhne and his Mrs got 8 months apiece a few years ago when he persuaded her to "take the rap" for him speeding and then got found out. This case seems worse to me with her being a solicitor and telling a bigger trail of lies.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:34 pm

Obviously took a leaf out of her leader’s book who showed, once again today, what a bare faced lier he is.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:35 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Obviously took a leaf out of her leader’s book who showed, once again today, what a bare faced lier he is.

This should be interesting.

What's he done that's upset you now?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:38 pm

Read post 7.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:41 pm

I would imagine that he is referring to Corbyn calling May a stupid woman then denying it, hence the lie.

The ‘w’ and ‘p’ sounds are made totally differently with the mouth so it is fairly obvious he didn’t say ‘people’.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:42 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Read post 7.

Oh. OK. And you believe it without any doubt whatsoever? Such is your expertise at lipreading mumbled comments. Because it's Corbyn, right? And you'll jump at a chance to bandwagon any criticism. Right?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:43 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:I would imagine that he is referring to Corbyn calling May a stupid woman then denying it, hence the lie.

The ‘w’ and ‘p’ sounds are made totally differently with the mouth so it is fairly obvious he didn’t say ‘people’.

That is true about the w and p sounds - IF you properly pronounce them. But muttered? Not so much.
Source? My own lips.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:44 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Oh. OK. And you believe it without any doubt whatsoever? Such is your expertise at lipreading mumbled comments. Because it's Corbyn, right? And you'll jump at a chance to bandwagon any criticism. Right?

Behave IT, I can’t stand May and fully endorse what he said but it’s obvious he didn’t say people.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:44 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:This should be interesting.

What's he done that's upset you now?

Hes upset me. Hes an unpatriotic, scruffy, terrorist loving dim witted communist.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:45 pm

You’re getting your tits in a tangle again IT. Any fool can see that he said ‘woman’. A small matter, I know, but the fact remains that he lied to the house.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:46 pm

Out of interest, if it had been The other way round would you have been as quick to jump to May’s defence? I doubt that somehow.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:09 pm

Stayingup wrote:Hes upset me. Hes an unpatriotic, scruffy, terrorist loving dim witted communist.

How much froth did this one produce?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:10 pm

dermotdermot wrote:You’re getting your tits in a tangle again IT. Any fool can see that he said ‘woman’. A small matter, I know, but the fact remains that he lied to the house.

Absolutely it's a small matter. A tiny one. Which is why it's odd that you refuse to accept even the possibility that you might be wrong. Maybe he did say "stupid woman", in which case he deserves criticism. But you have to be ultra-partisan and incapable of objectivity to not see it's plausible that he said something else.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:11 pm

Either way, he's bang on

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:12 pm

Got to say it does look like he said "woman". However, I don't remember the same outcry when Hammond said exactly the same about Andrea Jenkyns back in July?! At the end of the day both the BBC and Sky will use this to batter Corbyn and distract everyone away from the shambles that is the Tory party at this point in time.

I can assure you I have much stronger words to describe the heartless May.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:12 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Absolutely it's a small matter. A tiny one. Which is why it's odd that you refuse to accept even the possibility that you might be wrong. Maybe he did say "stupid woman", in which case he deserves criticism. But you have to be ultra-partisan and incapable of objectivity to not see it's plausible that he said something else.

Mr kettle, let me introduce you to Mr Pot.....

barba · Post by **barba** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:21 pm

Chris Huhne ex Lib Dem MP got 8 months (served 9 weeks) for same offence although he pleady guilty before trial.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:23 pm

And of course we had David Mundell calling Yvette Cooper a bitch back in 2017 #squeakycleantories

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:25 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Mr kettle, let me introduce you to Mr Pot.....

You probably think you're making a hilarious point but when have I ever demonstrated a lack of objectivity? Find one time where my argument hasn't been purely based on the facts.

Every opinion or position i take is based on facts. I don't accept bullshit in my arguments any more than i put up with it in yours. You don't hold such principles, though.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:30 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You probably think you're making a hilarious point but when have I ever demonstrated a lack of objectivity? Find one time where my argument hasn't been purely based on the facts.

Every opinion or position i take is based on facts. I don't accept bullshit in my arguments any more than i put up with it in yours. You don't hold such principles, though.

Grrrrrrrr.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:34 pm

biggles wrote:Fiona Onasanya Labour MP for Peterborough has been suspended from the Labour Party for perverting the course of justice. Another of Corbyn's harem, another solicitor. I guess that if you put yourself on a pedestal you really should stay within the laws of the land and never, ever kid yourself that you are above all that stuff. Just who can we, the people of the UK trust? Certainly not the legal profession nor many MPs if she is an example of those professions. Thereby not the people who run the UK. I am no Tory supporter but certain biased people on here aren't slow to post when a Tory has 'strayed'.

What's puzzling about this is she would be hit with only 3 pts and £60 I guess she has 9 or more already..

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:36 pm

I'm considering a life of crime.

Just can't decide which political party to join.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:07 am

SmudgetheClaret wrote:What's puzzling about this is she would be hit with only 3 pts and £60 I guess she has 9 or more already..

From what i have read on the political sites she had a clean licence,makes it even stranger if that is the case.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:17 am

RingoMcCartney wrote:I'm considering a life of crime.

Just can't decide which political party to join.

The national Action party could be up your street.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:19 am

Another MP found guilty of lying?

Hardly a shock, political affiliation shouldn't matter in this case, just throw the book at her and move on.

Won't be long before another politician is found out with another lie.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:22 am

Stayingup wrote:Hes upset me. Hes an unpatriotic, scruffy, terrorist loving dim witted communist.

Don’t forget, he’s a prick as well.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:24 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Oh. OK. And you believe it without any doubt whatsoever? Such is your expertise at lipreading mumbled comments. Because it's Corbyn, right? And you'll jump at a chance to bandwagon any criticism. Right?

Weren't you openly saying that you 100% could tell what that nobhead Chelsea fan was saying to Raheem Sterling?

When the boot fits & all

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:25 am

It’s best not to enter into a debate with IT; he’s so full of sh!t he dribbles diarrhoea.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:25 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Another MP found guilty of lying?

Hardly a shock, political affiliation shouldn't matter in this case, just throw the book at her and move on.

Won't be long before another politician is found out with another lie.

She's a woman they don't tell lies...

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:26 am

CoolClaret wrote:Weren't you openly saying that you 100% could tell what that nobhead Chelsea fan was saying to Raheem Sterling?

When the boot fits & all

No. Not even remotely accurate. Would you like to go and check your "facts"?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:28 am

BennyD wrote:It’s best not to enter into a debate with IT; he’s so full of sh!t he dribbles diarrhoea.

This from someone who got so upset at not being able to catch me saying something factually wrong that be blocked me.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:34 am

Wasn't the guy who she said was driving the car in Russia at the time?

A tad ironic.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:17 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Oh. OK. And you believe it without any doubt whatsoever? Such is your expertise at lipreading mumbled comments. Because it's Corbyn, right? And you'll jump at a chance to bandwagon any criticism. Right?

Typical Charlie. Gets all defensive when his dear leader comes out with a misogynistic comment like this.
He was furious the other day when David Davies got his phone out to avoid being ranted at by the manic Labour MP

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:23 am

Damo wrote:Typical Charlie. Gets all defensive when his dear leader comes out with a misogynistic comment like this.
He was furious the other day when David Davies got his phone out to avoid being ranted at by the manic Labour MP

I'm not being defensive, i'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is for people to be acting as if they're absolutely certain.
And i wasn't furious yesterday either. Although I can't help but notice how your attitude to the two seems different.

And what's this "dear leader" bullshit? Are you trying to imply something?

Suratclaret · Post by **Suratclaret** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:32 am

I'm not sure what Corbyn's alleged comment has to do with this thread.
Being found guilty of perverting the course of justice should result in an immediate prison sentence. She has already been suspended by the Labour Party and as a solicitor, presumably she will be struck off the solicitors register by the solicitors disciplinary body. Not a good day for someone who had stated her ambition to become prime minister one day.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:51 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm not being defensive, i'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is for people to be acting as if they're absolutely certain.
And i wasn't furious yesterday either. Although I can't help but notice how your attitude to the two seems different.

And what's this "dear leader" bullshit? Are you trying to imply something?

You don't know my opinion on what Corbyn said

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:36 am

Damo wrote:You don't know my opinion on what Corbyn said

Nor you of mine.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:28 am

Of course had this been a certain orange skinned enemy of turtles he would have been as hesitant coming forward in convicting him of what he is accused of saying.

Can see why you didn’t go for impartialturtle

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:17 am

No idea why he didn't admit it and apologise unreservedly. Lying through his back teeth will have done him no good because as STAN would say "A blind man on a galloping horse" could see what was mouthed. Never seen a P pronounced with a pursing of the lips.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:27 am

mdd2 wrote:No idea why he didn't admit it and apologise unreservedly. Lying through his back teeth will have done him no good because as STAN would say "A blind man on a galloping horse" could see what was mouthed. Never seen a P pronounced with a pursing of the lips.

I have always been a Labour supporter but I cannot abide Corbyn and those he has surrounded himself with so when I watched this I was expecting (more likely hoping) to see him mouth "Stupid Woman" but I have to say that it looked like "Stupid People" to me.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:28 am

No excuses here. She should resign and there should be a by election.

In the nicest possible way, if you are willing to lie about something as small as this, then what else will you lie about?

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:46 am

A whole career in ruins because of 3 penalty points. You just cannot credit it. The only explanation is that she probably felt that she was untouchable, able to do anything she wanted. Either that or she is just profoundly stupid.

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:56 am

With regard to Corbyn, both my wife and I watch this on TV a couple of times and whilst we agreed that he seemed to say stupid we could not make out what the second word was. Well done those who were absolutely positive it was woman. Neither my wife nor I are members of a political party.

With regard to the Peterborough MP she could still, technically, remain an MP depending on the type and length of penalty. This needs to change.