James McLean

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

James McLean

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:06 pm

Heard a bid has gone in for McClean of up to 8m.

3m more than Stoke paid for him. So maybe showing some intent early on.

Personally think he would be a good option especially at that price.

Barry_Chuckle
Posts: 1763
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:24 pm
Been Liked: 586 times
Has Liked: 203 times
Location: Oldfield, West Yorkshire

Re: James McLean

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:09 pm

Were we interested in him 18 month - 2 years ago?

Grumps
Posts: 4145
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:15 am
Been Liked: 954 times
Has Liked: 359 times

Re: James McLean

Post by Grumps » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:12 pm

This board would go into melt down if this happened

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: James McLean

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:13 pm

Personally think he would be a good option. Will know at least four of our lads already. Quick, direct, tricky and gets the odd goal.

Also would get the crowd going. Our new barton figure.
Last edited by cricketfieldclarets on Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
These 2 users liked this post: Tread Warily Quicknick

RVclaret
Posts: 13836
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:30 am
Been Liked: 3707 times
Has Liked: 2499 times

Re: James McLean

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:13 pm

Good fishing.
This user liked this post: Quickenthetempo

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: James McLean

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:14 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:Were we interested in him 18 month - 2 years ago?
I believe so yes.

RVclaret
Posts: 13836
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:30 am
Been Liked: 3707 times
Has Liked: 2499 times

Re: James McLean

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:35 pm

He is utter s****.
These 3 users liked this post: Rumpelstiltskin Quickenthetempo Belfast_Claret

lifelongclaret
Posts: 108
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:32 pm
Been Liked: 85 times
Has Liked: 29 times

Re: James McLean

Post by lifelongclaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:37 pm

I was working at the stoke city / Middlesbrough game last November ( I work via a sub contractor for sky bet)..it was rememberence day, James McLean was on the stoke bench, the personal abuse he received while warming up from his own fans was appalling, but fair play to him, he laughed it off, until the 90th minute when he tried to confront a Middlesbrough fan,
Personally I don’t think he’s what we need, but in Sean Dyche we trust

Devils_Advocate
Posts: 12345
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:43 pm
Been Liked: 5202 times
Has Liked: 920 times

Re: James McLean

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:38 pm

Definitely a Dyche type player - good work ethic and clearly a man of character and principal
This user liked this post: Quicknick

Marty Dobson
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:02 pm
Been Liked: 92 times
Has Liked: 261 times

Re: James McLean

Post by Marty Dobson » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:43 pm

lifelongclaret wrote:I was working at the stoke city / Middlesbrough game last November ( I work via a sub contractor for sky bet)..it was rememberence day, James McLean was on the stoke bench, the personal abuse he received while warming up from his own fans was appalling, but fair play to him, he laughed it off, until the 90th minute when he tried to confront a Middlesbrough fan,
Personally I don’t think he’s what we need, but in Sean Dyche we trust
I think he's exactly what we need ..another Joey Barton type with plenty cajones.
This user liked this post: Quicknick

paulatky
Posts: 1441
Joined: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:25 am
Been Liked: 220 times
Has Liked: 772 times

Re: James McLean

Post by paulatky » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:46 pm

What principal ,he is prepared to take the rich financial rewards available here in UK
If he had principals he would be playing in the irish republic
This user liked this post: Blackburnclaret

ClaretShaun
Posts: 117
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:37 am
Been Liked: 26 times
Has Liked: 7 times

Re: James McLean

Post by ClaretShaun » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:50 pm

Not in a million years would Sean ever bring anything like that into his group.

Literally never.

If he did ever pull on our Claret though then he would be abused by us for every minute he played....and rightly so.

nil_desperandum
Posts: 7301
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:06 pm
Been Liked: 1823 times
Has Liked: 3948 times

Re: James McLean

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:51 pm

paulatky wrote:What principal ,he is prepared to take the rich financial rewards available here in UK
If he had principals he would be playing in the irish republic
I'm probably not alone in failing to understand the logic of that statement.
These 6 users liked this post: fatboy47 simonclaret Burnley Ace Marty Dobson Quicknick whiffa

nil_desperandum
Posts: 7301
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:06 pm
Been Liked: 1823 times
Has Liked: 3948 times

Re: James McLean

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:52 pm

ClaretShaun wrote:Not in a million years would Sean ever bring anything like that into his group.

Literally never.

If he did ever pull on our Claret though then he would be abused by us for every minute he played....and rightly so.
You actually believe that the vast majority of fans would abuse one of our own players? (Unless of course he was playing badly ;) )

taio
Posts: 11520
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:17 am
Been Liked: 3220 times
Has Liked: 340 times

Re: James McLean

Post by taio » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:54 pm

Could see the temptation and he would be a decent fit but would much prefer a younger option

bodge
Posts: 1576
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:04 pm
Been Liked: 725 times
Has Liked: 474 times

Re: James McLean

Post by bodge » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:57 pm

Brady, JBG, McNeil, why would we want a fourth left sided wide player ?

Not that this is a credible link.

We need another right footed option to compete with Lennon ideally.
This user liked this post: summitclaret

fatboy47
Posts: 4179
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:58 am
Been Liked: 2316 times
Has Liked: 2692 times
Location: Isles of Scilly

Re: James McLean

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:58 pm

ClaretShaun wrote:Not in a million years would Sean ever bring anything like that into his group.

Literally never.

If he did ever pull on our Claret though then he would be abused by us for every minute he played....and rightly so.
Clearly McLean has the balls for it, but you have to question whether the Turf has just too many hard of thinking, sun-reading, knuckle-dragging throwbacks like the above bozo to make it a viable option.
This user liked this post: Quicknick

taio
Posts: 11520
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:17 am
Been Liked: 3220 times
Has Liked: 340 times

Re: James McLean

Post by taio » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:00 pm

bodge wrote:Brady, JBG, McNeil, why would we want a fourth left sided wide player ?

Not that this is a credible link.

We need another right footed option to compete with Lennon ideally.
It's a good point but Dyche likes inverted wingers and JBG is more effective on the right I reckon.
This user liked this post: Burnley Ace

SGr
Posts: 4412
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:46 pm
Been Liked: 1022 times
Has Liked: 307 times

Re: James McLean

Post by SGr » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:06 pm

James McLean is crap. Not good enough for this level. Hasn’t been for years.

Nothing anyone on here says will sway me from this position.
This user liked this post: Rumpelstiltskin

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: James McLean

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:13 pm

Looks good enough to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ageUqOjG-s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SGr
Posts: 4412
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:46 pm
Been Liked: 1022 times
Has Liked: 307 times

Re: James McLean

Post by SGr » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:16 pm

I’ve just watched a compilation of international goals dating back to 2014. Some of them against teams that would struggle in the championship. Moldova ffs :lol:

FactualFrank
Posts: 25445
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 am
Been Liked: 6930 times
Has Liked: 11660 times
Location: Leeds

Re: James McLean

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:21 pm

He's certainly good enough for us. Whether he has the personality and character to mix with our team, that's for SD to decide.

taio
Posts: 11520
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:17 am
Been Liked: 3220 times
Has Liked: 340 times

Re: James McLean

Post by taio » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:24 pm

Might stenghten our squad and give us another option but in terms of starting eleven I'd rather have JBG down the right and Brady or McNeil down the left.

FactualFrank
Posts: 25445
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 am
Been Liked: 6930 times
Has Liked: 11660 times
Location: Leeds

Re: James McLean

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:25 pm

taio wrote:Might stenghten our squad and give us another option but in terms of starting eleven I'd rather have JBG down the right and Brady or McNeil down the left.
I've seen him play left sided central midfield and he's better at controlling the football, passing and seeing an eye for goal than Westwood/Cork, so perhaps SD would see him play in that role.

taio
Posts: 11520
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:17 am
Been Liked: 3220 times
Has Liked: 340 times

Re: James McLean

Post by taio » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:28 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I've seen him play left sided central midfield and he's better at controlling the football, passing and seeing an eye for goal than Westwood/Cork, so perhaps SD would see him play in that role.
I can't imagine he'd be ahead of Cork, Westwood, Defour or Hendrick, but I say that while acknowledging I've not seen him play centre mid.

Quickenthetempo
Posts: 17916
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:35 am
Been Liked: 3841 times
Has Liked: 2065 times

Re: James McLean

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:29 pm

I know it's only a wind up thread but Dyche is under enough pressure, bringing him in would tip him over the edge.

SGr
Posts: 4412
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:46 pm
Been Liked: 1022 times
Has Liked: 307 times

Re: James McLean

Post by SGr » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm

Can’t believe what I’m reading here.

29 years old, 1 Championship goal this season, and happily offloaded by West Brom after their relegation to what is now a midtable chanpionship side.

He isn’t a Premier League player ffs

AlargeClaret
Posts: 4428
Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:55 pm
Been Liked: 1148 times
Has Liked: 180 times

Re: James McLean

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:31 pm

Do we really need more champ players to add to our lacklustre Irish contingent ?? He’s not bad but I’d be amazed if Dyche ever brought him here . Though Walters , Hendrick and Ward are surely on the way out

willsclarets
Posts: 1927
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:06 am
Been Liked: 680 times
Has Liked: 133 times

Re: James McLean

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:32 pm

Would be bananas to waste 8 million on a 29 year old championship player, when we have an 18 year old premiership player breaking through to compete with Brady.

Must be nonsense.
This user liked this post: Rumpelstiltskin

claretspice
Posts: 5660
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:13 am
Been Liked: 2801 times
Has Liked: 138 times

Re: James McLean

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:33 pm

bodge wrote:Brady, JBG, McNeil, why would we want a fourth left sided wide player ?

Not that this is a credible link.

We need another right footed option to compete with Lennon ideally.
I'd have thought the ideal option would be someone capable of playing across the front line, on either wing, or perhaps both on the right or up front as a second striker (which may reflect the reported interest in Jarod Bowen).

We've got Brady and McNeil who appear to naturally prefer the left, and Lennon and JBG who naturally prefer the right (even if JBG is left footed), so it's pretty well balanced at the moment.

The key thing seems to me the style of player - we've got a couple of busy players who look to get crosses in whenever they can (Brady and JBG), a bit of a schemer-in-training in McNeil and only really Lennon who is direct and looking to threaten in behind the full back (and even he hasn't done it for us consistently). What we haven't got at all is someone in the mould of Arfield, who is really about making a 4-4-2 solid by tucking in and giving extra legs to the centre of midfield (although Hendrick could do that role). So you'd have thought we'd either want a direct pacey winger, or someone who could do the tucking in role.

In fairness McLean is in that direct style, but I'd be surprised if we spent the best part of £10 million quid on someone like McLean, although if Stoke are looking to free up wages and will entertain a loan until the end of the season then I suppose it is plausible enough.

piston broke
Posts: 5548
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:40 pm
Been Liked: 1447 times
Has Liked: 1229 times
Location: Ferkham Hall

Re: James McLean

Post by piston broke » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:34 pm

James MacLean in an Ireland shirt is a different animal to the guy in a club shirt.
With his international head on he’s a top player but I don’t think he’d fit for us.
BTW aside from the hate he gets over the poppy stand he does loads of charity work and donates to causes.

Reecey1987
Posts: 2065
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:21 pm
Been Liked: 217 times
Has Liked: 97 times

Re: James McLean

Post by Reecey1987 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:34 pm

Going off the managers comments the other day the championship has been a good hunting ground for majority of our players so i wouldnt be shocked if this was to happen

taio
Posts: 11520
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:17 am
Been Liked: 3220 times
Has Liked: 340 times

Re: James McLean

Post by taio » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:34 pm

SGr wrote:Can’t believe what I’m reading here.

29 years old, 1 Championship goal this season, and happily offloaded by West Brom after their relegation to what is now a midtable chanpionship side.

He isn’t a Premier League player ffs
You're probably right especially for £8m

agreenwood
Posts: 3095
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:22 pm
Been Liked: 1712 times
Has Liked: 269 times

Re: James McLean

Post by agreenwood » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:36 pm

It’s almost guaranteed that the OP is gloating on his social media accounts about how many folk he caught with this latest cast.

Lord Beamish
Posts: 5001
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:00 pm
Been Liked: 3435 times
Has Liked: 2881 times

Re: James McLean

Post by Lord Beamish » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:38 pm

I’d buy him just to p1ss off some of our less temperate fans on here.
Last edited by Lord Beamish on Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
These 2 users liked this post: Marty Dobson Pearcey

tiger76
Posts: 25697
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
Been Liked: 4644 times
Has Liked: 9849 times
Location: Glasgow

Re: James McLean

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:38 pm

It's groundhog day we're chasing two West Brom players in Matt Phillips and now James McLean,i hope we don't waste much of the window on another wild goose chase,after the Jay-Rod and Dawson saga in the summer.

FactualFrank
Posts: 25445
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 am
Been Liked: 6930 times
Has Liked: 11660 times
Location: Leeds

Re: James McLean

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:38 pm

agreenwood wrote:It’s almost guaranteed that the OP is gloating on his social media accounts about how many folk he caught with this latest cast.
Don't spoil it. Keep playing.

taio
Posts: 11520
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:17 am
Been Liked: 3220 times
Has Liked: 340 times

Re: James McLean

Post by taio » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:40 pm

tiger76 wrote:It's groundhog day we're chasing two West Brom players in Matt Phillips and now James McLean,i hope we don't waste much of the window on another wild goose chase,after the Jay-Rod and Dawson saga in the summer.
Plays for stoke

tiger76
Posts: 25697
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
Been Liked: 4644 times
Has Liked: 9849 times
Location: Glasgow

Re: James McLean

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:47 pm

taio wrote:Plays for stoke
Yeah just noticed that LOL,must have missed that transfer,he went in the summer for 5 million,and there wasn't much interest from Premier League teams then so why would we shell out 8 million and pretty high wages on an average 29 year-old.

We need to lower the average age of our squad not get lumbered with another journeyman.
This user liked this post: Rumpelstiltskin

Spaceman
Posts: 165
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:56 pm
Been Liked: 52 times
Has Liked: 4 times

Re: James McLean

Post by Spaceman » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:54 pm

[quote="ClaretShaun"]Not in a million years would Sean ever bring anything like that into his group.

Literally never.

If he did ever pull on our Claret though then he would be abused by us for every minute he played....and rightly so.[/quote

Yawn. The usual right wing ********. As an army vet having done 3 tours of NI in the 80's I m pretty sure I've seen and done more than most ukip trolls who wave the union Jack and clain they have the right to condemn others. I have nothing hut respect for the IRA and what they fought for. Anyone who genuinely faced them would say the same, you'll trot out the usual atrocity stuff but won't acknowledge the klllings we did equally. It was a war. We agreed peace terms. Show respect for a man who stands by his principles.
These 7 users liked this post: cricketfieldclarets Lord Beamish nil_desperandum Bones Braindead Greenmile Tribesmen

ElectroClaret
Posts: 17774
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:07 pm
Been Liked: 4044 times
Has Liked: 1846 times

Re: James McLean

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:01 pm

I don't give a monkeys about his political affiliations or preferences, it's just that as others
further up the thread have said, he's not good enough. Bench filler journeyman.

cricketfieldclarets
Posts: 21464
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:59 pm
Been Liked: 8585 times
Has Liked: 11285 times

Re: James McLean

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:07 pm

Spaceman wrote:
Well said that man.

Lancasterclaret
Posts: 23343
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm
Been Liked: 8058 times
Has Liked: 4714 times
Location: Riding the galactic winds in my X-wing

Re: James McLean

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:54 pm

Its much more fun for him not to sign, but for us to be linked every window.

Threads like this make logging on to the site worthwhile

thatdberight
Posts: 3748
Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:49 am
Been Liked: 927 times
Has Liked: 716 times

Re: James McLean

Post by thatdberight » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:59 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:I'm probably not alone in failing to understand the logic of that statement.
It was something to do with his headmaster. I couldn't see the relevance either.

Rowls
Posts: 13163
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:00 pm
Been Liked: 5065 times
Has Liked: 5124 times
Location: Montpellier, France

Re: James McLean

Post by Rowls » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:00 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Its much more fun for him not to sign, but for us to be linked every window.

Threads like this make logging on to the site worthwhile
"linked"

It's only cricketfield doing the linking following by yourself and Beamish going after liking posts that ally with your political affiliations.

I get a perverse enjoyment out of these threads too but let's not pretend it's anything other than a mild diversion.

Lancasterclaret
Posts: 23343
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm
Been Liked: 8058 times
Has Liked: 4714 times
Location: Riding the galactic winds in my X-wing

Re: James McLean

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:03 pm

Whats James McClean got to do with being a Lib Dem?

These threads attract the nationalist bellends like no other, and they make me laugh. That will do!

bfcjg
Posts: 13153
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:17 pm
Been Liked: 5002 times
Has Liked: 6716 times

Re: James McLean

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:04 pm

I agree with the consensus he isn't good enough.
This user liked this post: Lancasterclaret

Lancasterclaret
Posts: 23343
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:09 pm
Been Liked: 8058 times
Has Liked: 4714 times
Location: Riding the galactic winds in my X-wing

Re: James McLean

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:08 pm

I think that is the key here. Its clearly fishing, and people have reacted to it and that (plus what has been posted) makes me laugh
This user liked this post: Lord Beamish

Rowls
Posts: 13163
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:00 pm
Been Liked: 5065 times
Has Liked: 5124 times
Location: Montpellier, France

Re: James McLean

Post by Rowls » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:08 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Whats James McClean got to do with being a Lib Dem?
These threads attract the nationalist bellends like no other, and they make me laugh. That will do!
Each to their own, you won't find me trying to stop your fun but I just don't think you're being as clever, or funny, as you guys think you are.

JohnMac
Posts: 7181
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:11 pm
Been Liked: 2367 times
Has Liked: 3781 times
Location: Padiham

Re: James McLean

Post by JohnMac » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:09 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:You actually believe that the vast majority of fans would abuse one of our own players? (Unless of course he was playing badly ;) )
Exactly, his name is McLean not Hendrick, Lowton, Taylor, Lennon... :lol:
This user liked this post: nil_desperandum

Post Reply