Plane missing in the Channel

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Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:32 am

A light aircraft heading to Cardiff from Nantes has gone missing near Alderney.

Coincidence that Cardiff have signed Sala from Nantes? I hope so and it isn't him or any of his family/entourage.

How many light aircraft will fly to Cardiff from Nantes?
Can't be many. :(

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:52 am

Source?

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:56 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe ... y-46954922" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:02 am

Edit: bigger than I thought.

Still not good for those on board mind.
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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:33 am

A local journalist has tweeted the football player wasn't on board.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:59 am

Hmmm but the BBC now reporting this :(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe ... y-46954922" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Reckoner » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:07 am

On the cardiff forum someone is saying the same French journalist is now tweeting he was on board. I couldn't access the tweet. Tragic whoever is involved.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by claretspice » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:09 am

Crikey. I hope everyone is found safe and well.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by claretfern » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:14 am

On line Daily Mirror reporting "Cardiff City have genuine concerns over missing player "

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:14 am

Assuming there is generally only one outcome when planes go missing?

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Test User » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:14 am

If he wasn't on board he'll quickly pipe up somewhere to say so to allay fears. The longer he doesn't the more sure you can be that he was.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:15 am

First heard this first thing.

Absolutely terrible

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Test User » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:16 am

ITV News say that French authorities confirm he was on board

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-01- ... ing-plane/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by piston broke » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:17 am

Good thoughts for all involved. Tragic for the families involved.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:21 am

Wow..i was only putting two and two together when i posted the topic but it was far too much of a coincidence. Tragic.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Test User » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:23 am

Somethingfishy wrote:Wow..i was only putting two and two together when i posted the topic but it was far too much of a coincidence. Tragic.
Basically this makes it your fault.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by PWBFC » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:24 am

Very sad, can only hope for a miracle.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:00 am

Unbelievable news really, literally a day or so after they sign him for a club record fee (£18m or so?).

Terribly sad news, you can but hope for a miracle for the people on that plane but if they have gone down in the middle of the Channel, in the middle of the night - you would not expect survivors. Can you imagine how cold it must be if they even got out of the aircraft (fully clothed)?

Pray for a miracle :(
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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by conyoviejo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:13 am

Sad news indeed.. :(

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:16 am

jedi_master wrote:Unbelievable news really, literally a day or so after they sign him for a club record fee (£18m or so?).

Terribly sad news, you can but hope for a miracle for the people on that plane but if they have gone down in the middle of the Channel, in the middle of the night - you would not expect survivors. Can you imagine how cold it must be if they even got out of the aircraft (fully clothed)?

Pray for a miracle :(
A Ferry's captain once told me that if anyone fell overboard they would be dead by the time the ship could turn around due to hyperthermia.

Dreadful news.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:43 am

Saw something earlier in SSN - it's awful news no matter who was on board.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:46 am

Terrible news

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:50 am

Terrible news and the longer time goes on sadly you have to fear the worst for all involved. :(

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by morpheus2 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:53 am

****, it brings it home when you see the lad is there on the transfers thread :cry:

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by BennyD » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:06 am

Somethingfishy wrote:Wow..i was only putting two and two together when i posted the topic but it was far too much of a coincidence. Tragic.
That’s a very shrewd spot, especially with your username. :shock:

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by WestMidsClaret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:23 am

Sala was on board the flight according to French civil aviation authority. Fingers crossed but it doesn't look good.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by claretburns » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:51 am

Awful news, reading the reports it would appear that the area the plane has crashed is avoided by sailors due to the rocks in the sea and previous shipwrecks which have occurred.

Aviation expert just said that the pilot would have a life jacket and oxygen but highly unlikely any passengers would have this.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Cubanclaret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:54 am

Jesus...how desperately sad.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Chip Harrison » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:31 pm

LTUK89 wrote:Cardiff literally can’t buy goals.
Lets hope that at a time of grief for you everybody takes the mickey. Words fail me.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by bfcjg » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:41 pm

Terrible, the helicopter last year now this.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by willsclarets » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:42 pm

Little to no hope of a positive outcome from the search I'm afraid. Horrible and terrifying way to go, and at such a young age footballer or otherwise.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:55 pm

Very sad news if by some miracle the inevitable isn't confirmed.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:20 pm

So sad.

Miracles do happen though!

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Moorite » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:21 pm

French Police and French Aviation have both confirmed the plane carrying Sala and the pilot has been lost between Nantes and Cardiff Airport :cry:


Tuesday 21st January 2019



The player's dad, Horatio, told Argentine TV station Channel 5 News: "A friend told me, I did not know anything, I'm in Rosario, I'm desperate, I hope everything goes well.

"Still nobody from Nantes has communicated with us, we are worried, desperate, this took us all by surprise.

"I don't have any information on the journey, the only thing I know is that it was
"They are saying that the plane lost control in the channel. I don't know what could have happened. I am speechless."

His mother, Mercedes, added: "The plane is from the President of Cardiff City FC, they informed us that the plane had disappeared and that they were looking for it."

Cardiff Airport confirmed the aircraft was due to arrive from Nantes but a spokeswoman said that no plane ever landed.



The pilot asked to do an emergency landing in Gurnsey but never landed there either.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by ecc » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:48 pm

It's not looking good at all. You couldn't last long in the sea in such temperatures. Nantes' match in the Cup (due to be played tomorrow evening) has been called off.

Terrible, terrible news.
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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by BennyD » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:52 pm

What an absolute tragedy. Words fail me.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:11 pm

Can't find the words to express how I feel about this.
Gutted for everybody involved, Cardiff the club and fans must be devastated, but mostly for him and his family.
Shocked

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:13 pm

The search boss says "not expecting to find anyone alive".

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Steddyman » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:51 pm

Bloody hell, that's a shocker.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:16 pm

bfcjg wrote:Terrible, the helicopter last year now this.
Absolutely. My first thought. And the first game after that tragedy was that poignont game with Leicester.

Once again puts football into perspective.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:21 pm

it's a strange one considering the owner of Cardiff has a private jet why they would let him travel on a PA46. Very tragic though regardless of the passenger

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Test User » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:27 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:it's a strange one considering the owner of Cardiff has a private jet why they would let him travel on a PA46. Very tragic though regardless of the passenger
The private jet is probably where ever its owner is. And he might not be in the UK.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:28 pm

Test User wrote:The private jet is probably where ever its owner is. And he might not be in the UK.
for sure

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Oshkoshclaret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:31 pm

A flight over water in a single engine prop plane, at night, in icing conditions... questions are going to be asked about this for sure.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by gsyclaret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:11 pm

resumed the search this morning but still nothing found, Jersey traffic control lost the planes signal at 8-30 last night, it was just north of Alderney. Terrible news.

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by lrac » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:17 pm

So sad .

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Test User » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:17 pm

Oshkoshclaret wrote:A flight over water in a single engine prop plane, at night, in icing conditions... questions are going to be asked about this for sure.
Is that unusual?

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:20 pm

Test User wrote:Is that unusual?
no, but a PA46 cruising at 5000ft seems very low when it can go up to 25 and the length of the flight

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by whentheballmoves » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:21 pm

Hope this has a positive ending, but for every hour that passes, sadly that becomes less and less likely. :-(

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Re: Plane missing in the Channel

Post by Test User » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:29 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:no, but a PA46 cruising at 5000ft seems very low when it can go up to 25 and the length of the flight
Ugh! I've just had a morbid moment. I was looking on flight radar for similar flights to see if flying at that altitude is normal when i noticed a weird flight path north of Guernsey. Then realised it's a search and rescue plane.

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