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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:16 pm

Except there won't be £7m in the old bread basket. :cry:

Wolves are due 25% on any profit made from the sale of Vokes (we signed him for £350k).

Wolves can put the revenue towards their new £18m signing.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:17 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:if we are paying 3 million for a 37 year old then we must have more money than I previously though



I look at it this way 3 million divided by goals scored.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:18 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I could be wrong, but I think it's £10million for Vokes and £3million for Crouch.


I think you could be wrong !

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by IndigoLake » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:if we are paying 3 million for a 37 year old then we must have more money than I previously though


He's actually 38 :shock:

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:20 pm

TVC15 wrote:I think you could be wrong !


Based on what TVC?

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by joey13 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:20 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:if we are paying 3 million for a 37 year old then we must have more money than I previously though

We aren’t he’s 38

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:20 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Based on what TVC?


He’s 38 and struggling to walk

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:22 pm

joey13 wrote:We aren’t he’s 38



Yes but he seems to have looked after himself so not worried to much about the age question, given what I said in my post above.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by joey13 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:24 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Yes but he seems to have looked after himself so not worried to much about the age question, given what I said in my post above.

Can he play 90 minutes, NO , this Trumps Juke and Sordell

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:26 pm

TVC15 wrote:I think you could be wrong !


Do you have the figures?

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:27 pm

I'm beginning to warm to this deal. It's not actually that bad.

We're selling a substitute for up to a reported £10m and getting a reliable stop-gap in return - at least we're not having to shell out on a replacement for this season. We are not a striker down. I said earlier in thread, I'd rather have Peter Crouch than recall Nahki Wells.

Impact wise, Vokes and Crouch are almost like for like - one is 10 years older and almost certain to retire at the end of the season... but he is match-fit, fits in with our style of play and has commercial value. We're not going to get anyone else like that. It's not terrible business.
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:27 pm

joey13 wrote:Can he play 90 minutes, NO , this Trumps Juke and Sordell


He won’t be required to play anything like 90 minutes so will be fine for me, but most importantly for SD.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:28 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Do you have the figures?


No but £3m for a 38 year old that they want to get off their books makes no sense.
Sky were reporting as a free transfer which makes a lot more sense.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:30 pm

TVC15 wrote:No but £3m for a 38 year old that they want to get off their books makes no sense.
Sky were reporting as a free transfer which makes a lot more sense.


I hope so. But if they want rid what possible use can he be for us.
They could have me on a free, and my wage demands are minimal :D

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by joey13 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:30 pm

South West Claret. wrote:He won’t be required to play anything like 90 minutes so will be fine for me, but most importantly for SD.

And what if Barnes or Wood get injured?

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:30 pm

TVC15 wrote:No but £3m for a 38 year old that they want to get off their books makes no sense.
Sky were reporting as a free transfer which makes a lot more sense.


Your not looking at the big/complete picture .

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by willsclarets » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:31 pm

We've got a guy with over 100 premier league goals, 42 caps for England and by all accounts a good character as a player who'll play 10 minutes here and there and likely be a positive influence on the other players. I really don't see what the fuss is all about.
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:33 pm

Freeing up their wage bill I guess. Can’t afford Vokes and Crouch and their new manager is busy trying to sign a few players.
If we don’t get another player in today then this will go down as the worst of deadline days....no way can have Vokes out and Crouch in be the plan for today.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by willsclarets » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:33 pm

joey13 wrote:And what if Barnes or Wood get injured?


Then Vydra will start, and get a chance to prove himself.
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:33 pm

he seems to score against Southampton, get him in lol

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:36 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Your not looking at the big/complete picture .


Am I not ? Cheers....what is that then ?
I doubt it can be anything to do with the Wolves sell on fee for Vokes as the Vokes and Crouch deal need to be treated as separate transactions.

If the bigger picture is whoever else we are bringing in today that’s great - and I can’t believe it would be something along these lines so hopefully we get this done.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by brigante » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:37 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:I'm beginning to warm to this deal. It's not actually that bad.

We're selling a substitute for up to a reported £10m and getting a reliable stop-gap in return - at least we're not having to shell out on a replacement for this season. We are not a striker down. I said earlier in thread, I'd rather have Peter Crouch than recall Nahki Wells.

Impact wise, Vokes and Crouch are almost like for like - one is 10 years older and almost certain to retire at the end of the season... but he is match-fit, fits in with our style of play and has commercial value. We're not going to get anyone else like that. It's not terrible business.


That’s kind of where I’m at too. I’ll be sorry to see Vokes go but hope he gets plenty of game time as a result.
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by dsr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:38 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I could be wrong, but I think it's £10million for Vokes and £3million for Crouch.

I'm sure you are wrong. £3m for a man on a contract for 14 games?

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:39 pm

willsclarets wrote:Then Vydra will start, and get a chance to prove himself.


Can't see Dyche playing Vydra in a league game, I think he'd probably switch to 4-5-1 rather than start Vydra. He either wasn't wanted by Dyche in the first place or he's done something to royally **** Dyche off.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:41 pm

willsclarets

"a player who'll play 10 minutes here and there"

How many grand a week does a player like that command in wages?

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:41 pm

The figures will be a little massaged to ensure the fee to Wolves is minimised

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:42 pm

So much for people praying it wasn’t true
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by KefkaClaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:42 pm

Anybody here who think Vydra will start a game is delusional. We just sold Vokes for 7m which is pathetic considering the inflated market nowadays and if one of Barnes and Wood gets injured you think Dyche is going to play Vydra? Don’t make me laugh, it will be back to the 4-5-1. Our transfers this season have managed to surpass my already low expectations.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:43 pm

TVC15 wrote:Am I not ? Cheers....what is that then ?
I doubt it can be anything to do with the Wolves sell on fee for Vokes as the Vokes and Crouch deal need to be treated as separate transactions.

If the bigger picture is whoever else we are bringing in today that’s great - and I can’t believe it would be something along these lines so hopefully we get this done.


No need to get sarky TVC just read and digest what I’ve been saying and then maybe you will get the answer to your own question .

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by SGr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:44 pm

I’m going to wake up. It’s still May 2018. We’ve just qualified for Europe, and we’re chasing the hottest domestic talent in the championship and are looking for some shrewd deals overseas.

Just need to pinch myself.
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:47 pm

Crouch is awesome, young, dynamic and talented.
Definitely one for the future.
What a great time to be a Burnley fan.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:48 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Anybody here who think Vydra will start a game is delusional. We just sold Vokes for 7m which is pathetic considering the inflated market nowadays and if one of Barnes and Wood gets injured you think Dyche is going to play Vydra? Don’t make me laugh, it will be back to the 4-5-1. Our transfers this season have managed to surpass my already low expectations.


Vydra has started a league game. :roll:

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by Corky » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:48 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Our transfers this season have managed to surpass my already low expectations.


This means we have done better than you thought. That can't be true. Surely?

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by CombatClaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:51 pm

Think of the saving's we'll make on step ladders though.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by brexit » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:53 pm

Podcast

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by joey13 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:54 pm

willsclarets wrote:Then Vydra will start, and get a chance to prove himself.

No he won’t

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by IndigoLake » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:54 pm

Dyche on Crouch: "We know he's a good character"

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by KefkaClaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:56 pm

Think of the dressing room though, our dressing room’s character will be off the charts.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by TVC15 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:56 pm

South West Claret. wrote:No need to get sarky TVC just read and digest what I’ve been saying and then maybe you will get the answer to your own question .


I genuinely don’t know what you are talking about. I can’t see anything you have posted which refers to the bigger picture.
You mentioned about their age difference being irrelevant because they will only play 10/15 minutes. Problem with this being Vokes has started 10 games this season and if Wood or Barnes got injured or sent off (Barnes !) I could not see Crouch starting but Vokes obviously could.

Whilst the deal might look good financially - and if £10m is correct that is a very good deal for us - survival this year is worth a lot more to us than another £6m or £7m profit given the profit we are already making.

As I said if the bigger picture is we are on course to sign Evans or somebody else then that’s great. I have always supported Dyche and the board but like a lot of fans have become concerned over our last couple of transfer windows and the players we have recently brought in.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by KefkaClaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:58 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Vydra has started a league game. :roll:


Two months ago, with little game time since then.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by Holtyclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:58 pm

He’s a bloody stop gap until the summer. Stop whinging, it’ll be fun and we’re no worse off. Winge away at the end of summer UTC
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by KefkaClaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:01 pm

Actually quite disrespectful to Vokes if you think we are no worse off.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:01 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Two months ago, with little game time since then.


He's played in the cup, and he now moves up a place in the pecking order.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by kaptin1 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:10 pm

I really want to see Crouch stood next to Lennon
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:15 pm

Lennon will be off by the time Crouch comes on for the last 10 minutes. :lol:

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by scouseclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:18 pm

You have to wonder, with all the money that’s rolled into the club over the last 3 seasons with relatively little being spent, why the club thinks it necessary to be raising cash from player sales when we’re still in a fairly perilous league position.

I could kind of see the sense in it if we were also bringing in Adams, or a similar prising youngster who may take a bit of time to settle, but if this (or anything else) isn’t going to happen, I think Garlick needs to make a statement explaining what the thinking is.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:24 pm

scouseclaret wrote:You have to wonder, with all the money that’s rolled into the club over the last 3 seasons with relatively little being spent, why the club thinks it necessary to be raising cash from player sales when we’re still in a fairly perilous league position.

I could kind of see the sense in it if we were also bringing in Adams, or a similar prising youngster who may take a bit of time to settle, but if this (or anything else) isn’t going to happen, I think Garlick needs to make a statement explaining what the thinking is.


Maybe they haven't done it for the money, they've probably done it because they didn't want to stand in Vokes' way when he wants to go and play first team football for Stoke.
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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:26 pm

Such a bizarre piece of business (signing a 38 year old to come on for 10 minutes here and there) that I find myself asking would this even be happening if Sean Dyche and Peter Crouch were reportedly not such good friends off the pitch.

Probably not, since Sean places a lot of faith in players that he knows and has worked with previously.

Still, a few good pay days for Crouch for very little game time.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by dsr » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:33 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Such a bizarre piece of business (signing a 38 year old to come on for 10 minutes here and there) that I find myself asking would this even be happening if Sean Dyche and Peter Crouch were reportedly not such good friends off the pitch.

Probably not, since Sean places a lot of faith in players that he knows and has worked with previously.

Still, a few good pay days for Crouch for very little game time.

Makes no difference to Crouch's pay, if reports are correct - we're just picking up his contract.

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Re: Peter Crouch

Post by Tinribs » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:38 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Nothing to do with the player himself, but how could this bit of business be seen as strengthening the squad?

Because Vokes wanted to leave so do you hold on to aunhappy players who’s value will keep going down ?
Crouch takes Vokes place on the bench and I’d rather have crouch in a 15 minute cameo than Vokes

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