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Cardiff fans

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:12 pm

Took defeat well after the match such a gracious bunch of fans!

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:16 pm

Just spoke to my Dad he said there were a few scuffles as he came out of the Bob Lord Stand near the coaches. No police in sight, obviously all stood round the corner scratching their backsides getting in people's way as they tried to exit by the cricket club.
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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:18 pm

Was a woman on the floor when I walked past being treated by paramedics.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:18 pm

not like Cardiff

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by theroyaldyche » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:19 pm

there was a fair few punches thrown on harry potts way.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by taio » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:19 pm

Fighting near the coaches.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:25 pm

So lets get this right. They inconvenience the Burnley fans leaving by the side of the cricket field by making us all go down Leyland Road and yet they still can't contain the trouble on the most probable flashpoint near the coaches as fans walk past? Brilliant..i applaud Lancashire Police for their fantastic organisation yet again. Inept doesn't begin to describe them.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:27 pm

Anyone who was at Cardiff in 1992 will know how much they are bad losers. You would think they would have got used to it by now :-D
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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by taio » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:33 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:So lets get this right. They inconvenience the Burnley fans leaving by the side of the cricket field by making us all go down Leyland Road and yet they still can't contain the trouble on the most probable flashpoint near the coaches as fans walk past? Brilliant..i applaud Lancashire Police for their fantastic organisation yet again. Inept doesn't begin to describe them.
Police nowhere to be seen at the incident next to the coaches. Just a couple of stewards that weren't going to get involved. Looked like the Cardiff fan will have a big shiner tomorrow.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:38 pm

They posted on their forum that Wood's first goal was offside... it was a feckin corner!!

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:They posted on their forum that Wood's first goal was offside... it was a feckin corner!!
They were crying about Barnes being offside in front of their keeper. He was in an offside position, after Woods’ header, but not interfering at all.
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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:42 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:So lets get this right. They inconvenience the Burnley fans leaving by the side of the cricket field by making us all go down Leyland Road and yet they still can't contain the trouble on the most probable flashpoint near the coaches as fans walk past? Brilliant..i applaud Lancashire Police for their fantastic organisation yet again. Inept doesn't begin to describe them.
That's a bit unfair on Lancashire police, you have ignored the fact that there are still a great number of them actively pursuing the Hanover fans in Germany.
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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Paul Waine » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:43 pm

FactualFrank wrote:They posted on their forum that Wood's first goal was offside... it was a feckin corner!!
Ash Barnes was standing in front of their keeper when Chris Wood headed the ball forward. All Cardiff players had come off the posts. Not sure if Ash would be given offside with VAR. I don't think he was interfering with play.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:44 pm

It sounds like the police were nowhere to be seen even after the trouble had started.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by TVC15 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:45 pm

taio wrote:Police nowhere to be seen at the incident next to the coaches. Just a couple of stewards that weren't going to get involved. Looked like the Cardiff fan will have a big shiner tomorrow.
There was plenty of police there - just a lot more Cardiff thugs and quite a few Burnley fans wanting to fight.
I was caught right in the middle of it and it was Cardiff fans instigating it but Burnley fans were happy to fight back. The lady looked like she tripped and hurt her hand.
There was a bottleneck of fans and trouble and it could have been a hell of a lot worse.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by theroyaldyche » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:45 pm

taio wrote:Police nowhere to be seen at the incident next to the coaches. Just a couple of stewards that weren't going to get involved. Looked like the Cardiff fan will have a big shiner tomorrow.
i was gunna say, the cardiff group came off a lot worse

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by taio » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:46 pm

FactualFrank wrote:They posted on their forum that Wood's first goal was offside... it was a feckin corner!!
I don't think it was offside. But I'm not surprised some Cardiff fans feel that way given Barnes was in an offside position and in front of the keeper.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by BobHaidong » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:56 pm

Law11
No offence

There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
a goal kick
a throw-in
a corner kick

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by BobHaidong » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:57 pm

Bloody muppets. Worse than Arsenal fans claiming for a foul throw the other week.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by taio » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:00 pm

BobHaidong wrote:Law11
No offence

There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
a goal kick
a throw-in
a corner kick
They will be claiming offside from Wood's header.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by CopacabanaClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:02 pm

Shambolic from the police and the stewards.
The whole point of creating a wall of buses is to not leave a gap between the buses.
They left gaps between them all, this was the result.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:04 pm

taio wrote:They will be claiming offside from Wood's header.
It was a direct header straight from a corner. Impossible to be offside.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by dsr » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:04 pm

CopacabanaClaret wrote:Shambolic from the police and the stewards.
The whole point of creating a wall of buses is to not leave a gap between the buses.
They left gaps between them all, this was the result.
Some of them came out of the emergency exits.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by dsr » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:05 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:It was a direct header straight from a corner. Impossible to be offside.
When Wood headed the ball, it was possible for Barnes to be offside.

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Post by bfcjg » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:05 pm

The Cardiff fans were getting off coaches via emergency exits and pushing past stewards. I saw one part with a tartan style scarf offering people out very sad. An old guy and a lady both knocked to the floor. I think if it was the Cricketfield and JML fans walking past the coaches it would have bee carnage.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by taio » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:10 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:It was a direct header straight from a corner. Impossible to be offside.
How is it impossible?

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by karatekid » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:11 pm

I was walking home after the game along Casterton Avenue when all the coaches and mini buses came past me and some nice person decided to throw a beer bottle at me . It missed. :x

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:17 pm

dsr wrote:When Wood headed the ball, it was possible for Barnes to be offside.
He headed it from about 3 yards out. Put it one way i have never seen a goal ruled out in those circumstances for offside. Pushes, obstructing the keeper etc yes..but offside..never.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by CopacabanaClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:19 pm

dsr wrote:Some of them came out of the emergency exits.
Fair enough. I didn't see that.
But the point still stands, those buses weren't parked bumper to bumper and there was groups of Cardiff fans between the buses.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by pushpinpussy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:21 pm

I was walking home after the game along Casterton Avenue when all the coaches and mini buses came past me and some nice person decided to throw a beer bottle at me . It missed.

maybe it was their centre forward
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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by karatekid » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:22 pm

Nah it was definitely a beer bottle ;)
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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by MACCA » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:25 pm

To be fair, when it started kicking off, there were still half a dozen officers, 2 on horseback, standing strong and still stood next to the coaches making sure the driver didn't jump off and join in...
Even when pressed as to what they were doing they stood unmoved without even engaging.

A women with a child no older than 8 were left to get in between the groups screaming "stop, stop, go away"

watching the situation unfold spoke a thousand words, but nothing that we haven't come to expect from Lancs constab

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:25 pm

FactualFrank wrote:They posted on their forum that Wood's first goal was offside... it was a feckin corner!!

For the 1,000th time, it's Wood.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by AndyClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:31 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:He headed it from about 3 yards out. Put it one way i have never seen a goal ruled out in those circumstances for offside. Pushes, obstructing the keeper etc yes..but offside..never.
There was a goal ruled out for off side the other day, (think it was at Newcastle) because a player was blocking the keepers view from a shot.

When it showed our goal back on the big screen, the first thing i thought was that Barnes was offside, stood right in front of their keeper.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Frenchclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:32 pm

But if Wood has an apostrophe it simply suggests that the goal belongs to Wood !
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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by taio » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:34 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:He headed it from about 3 yards out. Put it one way i have never seen a goal ruled out in those circumstances for offside. Pushes, obstructing the keeper etc yes..but offside..never.
Of course goals have been disallowed for a player being in an offside position and a position that unsights the keeper.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:38 pm

Frenchclaret wrote:But if Wood has an apostrophe it simply suggests that the goal belongs to Wood !
Just a little joke, French.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:39 pm

And it was a good one....

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:40 pm

AndyClaret wrote:There was a goal ruled out for off side the other day, (think it was at Newcastle) because a player was blocking the keepers view from a shot.

When it showed our goal back on the big screen, the first thing i thought was that Barnes was offside, stood right in front of their keeper.
Ive just watched it again..he heads it in from point blank range. Keeper was never saving it unless it just hits him. If Wood had headed it in from the penalty spot there may have been a case. Barnes also makes no movement towards the ball..possibly because..like the keeper..he had no time to react it was that close in. Cardiff fans clutching at straws i think springs to mind. Barnes is in an offside position but in a situation like that so close in it is rare it gets called as interfering.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:43 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:And it was a good one....

Why thank you my good man.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:46 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Just a little joke, French.
Don't worry, some of us got it :lol:
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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:47 pm

Welsh fannies.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:50 pm

As I came to the police road block at the cricket club there was what looked like a fat disabled bloke on his arse claiming the coppers had assaulted him,he was saying me cause trouble I can hardly ******* walk...police brutality at its finest

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:51 pm

shouldn't be too hard to identify the idiots
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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:53 pm

Was right up against the segregation in the CFS,Cardiff fans have some bloody old hooligans.....they were 50 year old blokes spoiling for a fight all the game,one fat bugger was causing trouble all the game and the plod just let him do it.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by bob-the-scutter » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:56 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:So lets get this right. They inconvenience the Burnley fans leaving by the side of the cricket field by making us all go down Leyland Road and yet they still can't contain the trouble on the most probable flashpoint near the coaches as fans walk past? Brilliant..i applaud Lancashire Police for their fantastic organisation yet again. Inept doesn't begin to describe them.
They were too busy tackling a "rather large gentleman" who was quite helpless on the floor at the entrance to the cricket field/Belvedere road, the brave Robo-cops needed something to do.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:56 pm

As we left he Bob Lord, the Cardiff fans were streaming through between the buses and simply getting off the coaches through the side doors.

Sounds like we were perhaps a minute ahead of the trouble. Police and stewards just waiting at the traffic lights keeping a low profile.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by theroyaldyche » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:17 pm

It went off in the boot earlier in the day. They brought a large mob today it seems.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:04 pm

There were a few outside Kelly's bar (next to the boot)giving locals stick as they walked by.

They won't be back for a while.

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Re: Cardiff fans

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:14 pm

Don’t they know that we don’t do hooliganism in the Premier League? Save it a few months until you’re in the lower leagues.

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