Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
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Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Now we’re all but mathematically safe , I’d imagine the club will be planning ahead ( fag packets /beer mats/ bookies pens and a cheap PAYG mobile ) for next season . Though our brave rearguard from an injury ravaged squad has been “ proudsville “ admirable I’d imagine we could receive numerous offers for our players from the champ and Prem . Personally I’m sure SD will keep the “ backbone” but next year is one we can truly push on , imo
Defour - love to see him back but seriously ?
Pope - time to cash in he needs gametime
Hart - Still a high end keeper but do we need him?
Brady/Lennon/Gudm - could attract interest from promoted clubs .Norwich?
Tarky - surely a prem club comes for him and we cash out? Leics/Wham/ ?
Cork/Wood/Hendrick/Lowton could all be improved upon
Defour - love to see him back but seriously ?
Pope - time to cash in he needs gametime
Hart - Still a high end keeper but do we need him?
Brady/Lennon/Gudm - could attract interest from promoted clubs .Norwich?
Tarky - surely a prem club comes for him and we cash out? Leics/Wham/ ?
Cork/Wood/Hendrick/Lowton could all be improved upon
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Jesus Christ..... Mini Clearout?
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
I'll need to check, but I'm not aware of Dyche ever having much of a clear out, couple of players maybe but that's it.
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
I think at least one keeper, Defour and Crouch will leave.
Possibly Vydra as well.
Possibly Vydra as well.
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
we are only going to field 3 players next season, that's how good we aredandeclaret wrote:Jesus Christ..... Mini Clearout?
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Don't worry, we won't be getting rid of you.dandeclaret wrote:Jesus Christ..... Mini Clearout?
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Why would we want to get rid of J B G ?
He picks up the odd knock but he’s vital member of squad.
Can’t see Tarks going anywhere he’s not had the best of seasons,think the England call up went to his head last summer and he spent half the season trying to be something he isn’t.Will be better next season.
Hart needs to go and let pope and Heaton fight for number 1 spot.
I’d let Lowton go if we can replace with someone quicker and better quality on ball.?
I get rid of Defour his body can’t cope with what Dyche wants him to do which is a shame because he’s class.
Need another central midfielder or two to put pressure on Cork and Westwood who have been great since Christmas but are limited in ability in an attacking sense.
Very tough to find players that are good enough and fit the wage bill,I wouldn’t expect many incomings.
He picks up the odd knock but he’s vital member of squad.
Can’t see Tarks going anywhere he’s not had the best of seasons,think the England call up went to his head last summer and he spent half the season trying to be something he isn’t.Will be better next season.
Hart needs to go and let pope and Heaton fight for number 1 spot.
I’d let Lowton go if we can replace with someone quicker and better quality on ball.?
I get rid of Defour his body can’t cope with what Dyche wants him to do which is a shame because he’s class.
Need another central midfielder or two to put pressure on Cork and Westwood who have been great since Christmas but are limited in ability in an attacking sense.
Very tough to find players that are good enough and fit the wage bill,I wouldn’t expect many incomings.
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Post of the week.FactualFrank wrote:Don't worry, we won't be getting rid of you.
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Cheers Ronnie.FactualFrank wrote:Don't worry, we won't be getting rid of you.
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I wasn’t so much referring to transfer targets more to the possibility of a fair few squad members wanting 1st team football and actually receiving offers , not something we generally get a great deal of . I’d totally forgot about Vydra
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Evolution, not revolution, is more Sean’s style.
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That is "alargeClaret" clear out.AlargeClaret wrote:Now we’re all but mathematically safe , I’d imagine the club will be planning ahead ( fag packets /beer mats/ bookies pens and a cheap PAYG mobile ) for next season . Though our brave rearguard from an injury ravaged squad has been “ proudsville “ admirable I’d imagine we could receive numerous offers for our players from the champ and Prem . Personally I’m sure SD will keep the “ backbone” but next year is one we can truly push on , imo
Defour - love to see him back but seriously ?
Pope - time to cash in he needs gametime
Hart - Still a high end keeper but do we need him?
Brady/Lennon/Gudm - could attract interest from promoted clubs .Norwich?
Tarky - surely a prem club comes for him and we cash out? Leics/Wham/ ?
Cork/Wood/Hendrick/Lowton could all be improved upon
It's still a squad game - and Burnley does not (yet) have the money to buy 2 first teams (unlike top 6 clubs).
My views:
Defour - love to see Steven Defour fit again like he was at the start of 2017/18 season. Someone half as good would cost us twice the price.
Nick Pope - love to keep Nick (and Tom Heaton), but I think Nick will decide if we wants to wait until Tom gets another injury (which I hope doesn't happen).
Joe Hart - yes, if we paid £3.5 million to bring Joe in, and if we aren't committed to pay him £100k per week - Joe should be moving on (and putting some money into Burnley's bank account). But, it will be tricky, if, when City stop paying the other half of his wages, the contract says Burnley is paying.... because no one will want Joe Hart for "money tree" money.
Brady and JBG - we keep because they are good squad players - and they can compete for the shirt.
Aaron Lennon - not sure what his contract situation is - has he got another Premier League season in him? Or, a step down to a promotion chasing team next season?
James Tarkowski - we get him back to performing at his very best - and we look at those occasions when Ben-James-Ben are our back 3. (Remember when we were worried we didn't have cover for every position)?
Jack Cork - once that "once last top game" at Stamford Bridge?
Chris Wood - starting to show the form that we bought him for - give Chris the service and he will score (except when we are 2-2 at Chelsea.... I wish he's had the confidence to put it in the corner....
Jeff Hendrick - Jeff is now showing what he brings to the team - and what a goal on Monday night.
Matt Lowton - if we can sign a better right back, but we shouldn't release Matt until we've got his replacement "Dyche fit."
Peter Crouch - only signed until the end of the season - I'd expect we will add a forward to compete for the shirt.
Matej Vydra - like a number of our signings, he may come into his own and win his place in the team with a full pre-season. (Though, if Matej wants to go, and the money is right, I'm sure it will be Sean Dyche's call).
The art, of course, is working out who will be starting to age and tire, as opposed to improve with age and experience, and bring in the "fresh legs" to keep the team moving forward, "fine margins" etc.
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Almost as if he wants to start again with a completely new squad. Won’t be anyone left.dandeclaret wrote:Jesus Christ..... Mini Clearout?
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Watching United, I think there'll be one hell of a clear-out there, if OGS gets his way, and contracts allow.
They're sh1t.
They're sh1t.
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You do read some daft stuff, where are we going to find £100m+ to replace that lot
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I knew the opening post was as wind up as soon as Wood was mentioned!
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It’s absolutely baffling....Spijed wrote:I knew the opening post was as wind up as soon as Wood was mentioned!
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I'd get rid of Brady, JBG and Lennon, they're all gash. Mcneil is a million miles ahead of the lot in terms of end product.
I was a fan of the Brady signing at the time but it hasn't worked out at all, I know some will pretend he was amazing before injury but I disagree, before his injury he had approximately 3 good games for us.
JBG can't stay fit and when he is fit, he's pretty ineffective for the most part and certainly compared to Mcneil, 5 goals in 3 full PL seasons just isn't enough.
Lennon has just been horrific, Bournemouth game aside, he's been the worst player on the pitch nearly every game. A blessing in disguise he got injured and Dyche was forced to use Mcneil.
OUT
Ward (Taylor's had a great season, up there for POTY imo)
Defour (as much as I love him, he cant stay fit and Westwood has been incredible)
Brady
JBG *maybe keep if we're desperate for bodies*
Lennon
Crouch (useless laughable signing really)
Wells (not good enough)
Vydra (loved the signing, never gonna be given a chance, so pointless to keep him)
Ledgkins
Hart
Pope/Heaton (personally i'd cash in on Pope to free up funds to invest elsewhere, Heaton's shirt to lose and he will never lose it. Keep Lindegaard as 2nd choice and bring in a younger goalkeeper to challenge for the 2nd spot)
Heaton
XXXX TARK MEE TAYLOR
XXXX WESTWOOD XXXX MCNEIL
XXXX WOOD
I was a fan of the Brady signing at the time but it hasn't worked out at all, I know some will pretend he was amazing before injury but I disagree, before his injury he had approximately 3 good games for us.
JBG can't stay fit and when he is fit, he's pretty ineffective for the most part and certainly compared to Mcneil, 5 goals in 3 full PL seasons just isn't enough.
Lennon has just been horrific, Bournemouth game aside, he's been the worst player on the pitch nearly every game. A blessing in disguise he got injured and Dyche was forced to use Mcneil.
OUT
Ward (Taylor's had a great season, up there for POTY imo)
Defour (as much as I love him, he cant stay fit and Westwood has been incredible)
Brady
JBG *maybe keep if we're desperate for bodies*
Lennon
Crouch (useless laughable signing really)
Wells (not good enough)
Vydra (loved the signing, never gonna be given a chance, so pointless to keep him)
Ledgkins
Hart
Pope/Heaton (personally i'd cash in on Pope to free up funds to invest elsewhere, Heaton's shirt to lose and he will never lose it. Keep Lindegaard as 2nd choice and bring in a younger goalkeeper to challenge for the 2nd spot)
Heaton
XXXX TARK MEE TAYLOR
XXXX WESTWOOD XXXX MCNEIL
XXXX WOOD
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Bardsley is staying
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Barnes?KRBFC wrote:
Heaton
XXXX TARK MEE TAYLOR
XXXX WESTWOOD XXXX MCNEIL
XXXX WOOD
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Yeah rotate between Wood, Barnes and another.ElectroClaret wrote:Barnes?
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All those saying we should get rid of Defour might have forgot we triggered a one year extension to his contract.
We have little chance of selling or even giving away (because Defour won’t want to go) a player on £2m a year at least who has been injured for 12 months now and is known to have had a very serious injury in the past.
Wells, Walters, Ward, Crouch, Bardsley all out of contract - only one I think might be offered a new one is Bardsley.
That should free up around £7m a year in wages.
I think we need to also sell Vydra and that Pope and Hart will want to leave. That could bring in £20m in fees and free up another £7m in wages.
Brady is one that if we could sell him I would - I don’t think we will have any takers though and he’s another one who might be happy to see out his contract on the bench.
Lennon I think will stay and fight for his place and I think he could be a good player to come off the bench when he is back fit.
I do think we are looking at around half a dozen coming in and ideally 2 of these are challenging Cork (or Jeff) and Barnes or Wood for the first team....as we know that should motivate the players who have the shirt if there are new big signings waiting in the wings.
We have little chance of selling or even giving away (because Defour won’t want to go) a player on £2m a year at least who has been injured for 12 months now and is known to have had a very serious injury in the past.
Wells, Walters, Ward, Crouch, Bardsley all out of contract - only one I think might be offered a new one is Bardsley.
That should free up around £7m a year in wages.
I think we need to also sell Vydra and that Pope and Hart will want to leave. That could bring in £20m in fees and free up another £7m in wages.
Brady is one that if we could sell him I would - I don’t think we will have any takers though and he’s another one who might be happy to see out his contract on the bench.
Lennon I think will stay and fight for his place and I think he could be a good player to come off the bench when he is back fit.
I do think we are looking at around half a dozen coming in and ideally 2 of these are challenging Cork (or Jeff) and Barnes or Wood for the first team....as we know that should motivate the players who have the shirt if there are new big signings waiting in the wings.
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Your back - like you never leftKRBFC wrote:I'd get rid of Brady, JBG and Lennon, they're all gash.
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Walters has retired so he is definitely off. Ward and Crouch are out of contract and I cannot see them being re-newed as they have contributed very little this season.
Bardsley might be worth another year.
I would off load Wells ( who still has a year to go ) Hart Lennon and Defour however as TVC rightly points finding a taker will be tricky if not impossible for our Belgian.
None of these moves would impact the squad significantly if at all, and free up some wages for a couple of midfielders.
Upgrades on Brady and Vydra might be possible but only if replacements can be found.
Bardsley might be worth another year.
I would off load Wells ( who still has a year to go ) Hart Lennon and Defour however as TVC rightly points finding a taker will be tricky if not impossible for our Belgian.
None of these moves would impact the squad significantly if at all, and free up some wages for a couple of midfielders.
Upgrades on Brady and Vydra might be possible but only if replacements can be found.
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What do any of them offer? Off the top of my head, Lennon has 1 goal for us? What about Brady? 2 or 3 league goals? JBG has 5 in 3 PL seasons.Chester Perry wrote:Your back - like you never left
Lennon this season, 1 goal 1 assist. He's complete gash, young dwight has done more in 1 game than Lennon has in his entire Burnley career, waste of resources.
Brady, 14 appearances this season, what does he do?
score goals? no, 0 goals this season.
create goals? not really, 1 assist all season.
pace? absolutely not
Your comeback will be ''well he's coming back from an injury'', ok i'll give you that one, so here's Brady's stats from last season before he got injured:
Played 15, 1 goal, 2 assists. In his first 6 months, 14 appearances, 1 goal, 2 assists too.... pretty consistent at being crap.
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I would have thought you would have used your experiences on here to reflect that Burnley is much more about the sum of it's parts working together than the break down of each individuals contributions. It is everything our manager has talked about since he first arrived, between them they find ways of contributing that make the whole significantly greater than the sum of it's parts. Walters, as an example, has been much maligned on here, but he has contributed to the development of Barnes and McNeil amongst others as a member of our squad
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JBG is a very good player........one of our best crossers of the ball! After a full pre season he'll be like a new signing ( you heard it here first)!KRBFC wrote:What do any of them offer? Off the top of my head, Lennon has 1 goal for us? What about Brady? 2 or 3 league goals? JBG has 5 in 3 PL seasons.
Lennon this season, 1 goal 1 assist. He's complete gash, young dwight has done more in 1 game than Lennon has in his entire Burnley career, waste of resources.
Brady, 14 appearances this season, what does he do?
score goals? no, 0 goals this season.
create goals? not really, 1 assist all season.
pace? absolutely not
Your comeback will be ''well he's coming back from an injury'', ok i'll give you that one, so here's Brady's stats from last season before he got injured:
Played 15, 1 goal, 2 assists. In his first 6 months, 14 appearances, 1 goal, 2 assists too.... pretty consistent at being crap.
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Can't believe people saying we should get rid of JBG, would cost a big chunk of our transfer budget to replace him if we did.
He's had 15 assists in the last two seasons in the PL, which is 3 more than Mesut Ozil over the same period and just 2 and 4 less than David Silva and Eden Hazard respectively. I can see why Dyche has been starting Hendrick on the right flank recently but JBG can be a game changer when he comes on, plus he can play on either wing - we'd be mad to lose him.
He's had 15 assists in the last two seasons in the PL, which is 3 more than Mesut Ozil over the same period and just 2 and 4 less than David Silva and Eden Hazard respectively. I can see why Dyche has been starting Hendrick on the right flank recently but JBG can be a game changer when he comes on, plus he can play on either wing - we'd be mad to lose him.
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Why is the bumbling idiot back with his drivel
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The reoccurring players need moving on thread which is usually based on whether the UTC poster likes or dislikes the player not necessarily based on ability or contribution. Another random comment about Joe Hart's wage and City paying it. Even when Hart has long gone some will struggle not to mention him in posts.
So it is click on Hart, Pope, Crouch, Vydra, Lennon, Defour, Brady, Ward and remove from squad. Click, gone. Right lets get some players in........oh hang on weve got a tiny squad and find it difficult to compete in the transfer market.
So it is click on Hart, Pope, Crouch, Vydra, Lennon, Defour, Brady, Ward and remove from squad. Click, gone. Right lets get some players in........oh hang on weve got a tiny squad and find it difficult to compete in the transfer market.
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OUT;
Defour
Hart
Crouch
Lennon
IN;
Central midfielder
Right midfielder with pace
A young right back with a view to breaking into the side in 2020/2021
Striker
Attacking midfielder, or someone who can play the no 10 role in a 4-5-1
Defour
Hart
Crouch
Lennon
IN;
Central midfielder
Right midfielder with pace
A young right back with a view to breaking into the side in 2020/2021
Striker
Attacking midfielder, or someone who can play the no 10 role in a 4-5-1
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Rileybobs. I agree with your "IN" section. The only issue I can see is the cost, in the current climate would we not be looking at £75/80 mill for the quality that's required.
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I've changed my mind since our amazing improvement since Xmas.
But we do have to evolve the team a bit.
We need a CM, ST and a LB (back up) as a priority and the rest depend on who leaves.
But we do have to evolve the team a bit.
We need a CM, ST and a LB (back up) as a priority and the rest depend on who leaves.
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I would imagine that Hart will be looking for game time somewhere else, hopefully Pope won't.
Bardsley is great cover / competition for RB, but at some point we will need a young understudy in the way Taylor was brought in to eventually take over from Ward. Whether that's this summer or not can depend on a few factors such as is Bardsley good to go another season (can't see why not), could a suitable player become available that's worth snapping up now.
Talking of Taylor and Ward, it's pretty much the same situation at LB as at RB.
CB is not an issue unless someone puts in a transfer request given that Long and Gibson should be good enough cover.
Things start to get a bit more complicated further up the field.
It's fair to say that surely McNeil has earned the shirt for next season if SD sees him playing down the left again, leaving Brady with a lot to do to put himself in a position to step up should the opportunity arise. Pope and Brady are probably two players that have the most quality against which they're competing. I can't see Brady going anywhere this summer.
Over the other side we have JBG and Lennon with Hendrick moving across to that side of the pitch. A fit JBG is great, Hendrick has been great also. What is unclear is whether SD is seeing enough in Lennon to suggest he has a future here and do we go with JBG and Hendrick next season. Is Hendrick happy to play there and compete with JBG or do we need to bring someone else in, with Hendrick back in the midfield mix?
So far, my list of leavers only consists of Crouch, Hart and Lennon.
This brings us to the Defour dilemma. The only thing letting the bloke down is his fitness as far as availability is concerned, his desire is another matter. Given his lack of appearances, we as supporters are going to find it hard to gauge, but SD and his staff will know whether to ask his agent to try and find him another club this summer. We do need someone with his skill set, but whether it's him or another is hard to call.
Cork and Westwood aren't going anywhere, but we do need at least one extra body bringing in, maybe two if Hendrick is the cover for JBG.
I think it's a given that Barnes and Wood are two players we'll be selecting from next season to play upfront, I also think Vydra is unlikely to go anywhere either. Whether that's continuing his step up to premier level and the way SD wants him playing, or simply another chance to prove he has that ability to make the step up I don't know, but I don't think he'll be moving this season.
Something must be in the planning for SD to let Vokes go and accept Crouch to cover until the end of the season. Maybe it's someone who can form a partnership with Vydra that would play differently to the Barnes/Wood combination, or simply another to compete with the other three for a starting place.
Unable to add much to my list as we moved up field, I'd say Crouch, Hart, Lennon and potentially Defour.
We need a forward and a couple of midfielders, or one midfielder and a right sider if Hendrick goes back in the middle.
Three, possibly four out and three in is where I believe we're at this coming transfer window, and is about as far as our budget will stretch.
Bardsley is great cover / competition for RB, but at some point we will need a young understudy in the way Taylor was brought in to eventually take over from Ward. Whether that's this summer or not can depend on a few factors such as is Bardsley good to go another season (can't see why not), could a suitable player become available that's worth snapping up now.
Talking of Taylor and Ward, it's pretty much the same situation at LB as at RB.
CB is not an issue unless someone puts in a transfer request given that Long and Gibson should be good enough cover.
Things start to get a bit more complicated further up the field.
It's fair to say that surely McNeil has earned the shirt for next season if SD sees him playing down the left again, leaving Brady with a lot to do to put himself in a position to step up should the opportunity arise. Pope and Brady are probably two players that have the most quality against which they're competing. I can't see Brady going anywhere this summer.
Over the other side we have JBG and Lennon with Hendrick moving across to that side of the pitch. A fit JBG is great, Hendrick has been great also. What is unclear is whether SD is seeing enough in Lennon to suggest he has a future here and do we go with JBG and Hendrick next season. Is Hendrick happy to play there and compete with JBG or do we need to bring someone else in, with Hendrick back in the midfield mix?
So far, my list of leavers only consists of Crouch, Hart and Lennon.
This brings us to the Defour dilemma. The only thing letting the bloke down is his fitness as far as availability is concerned, his desire is another matter. Given his lack of appearances, we as supporters are going to find it hard to gauge, but SD and his staff will know whether to ask his agent to try and find him another club this summer. We do need someone with his skill set, but whether it's him or another is hard to call.
Cork and Westwood aren't going anywhere, but we do need at least one extra body bringing in, maybe two if Hendrick is the cover for JBG.
I think it's a given that Barnes and Wood are two players we'll be selecting from next season to play upfront, I also think Vydra is unlikely to go anywhere either. Whether that's continuing his step up to premier level and the way SD wants him playing, or simply another chance to prove he has that ability to make the step up I don't know, but I don't think he'll be moving this season.
Something must be in the planning for SD to let Vokes go and accept Crouch to cover until the end of the season. Maybe it's someone who can form a partnership with Vydra that would play differently to the Barnes/Wood combination, or simply another to compete with the other three for a starting place.
Unable to add much to my list as we moved up field, I'd say Crouch, Hart, Lennon and potentially Defour.
We need a forward and a couple of midfielders, or one midfielder and a right sider if Hendrick goes back in the middle.
Three, possibly four out and three in is where I believe we're at this coming transfer window, and is about as far as our budget will stretch.
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Wells
Hart
Defour
Vydra
Lennon
Crouch
Thats about it I think maybe a bit over the top but also could be about right
Hart
Defour
Vydra
Lennon
Crouch
Thats about it I think maybe a bit over the top but also could be about right
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
It's hard to tell what Dyche thinks. In theory, why would you give Ward another contract. He's not played all season and he's what, 33? Yes, he's been great and, for all that Taylor has improved, there was a time early in the season when it really wasn't clear he was going to be OK. But then why would you have two experienced keepers as back-up to your top two and yet refuse to play them and buy Hart? So, it's not always clear why we do what we do.
But yes, Crouch, Ward, Hart, Defour, Lennon, Vydra, Wells, Lindegaard, Legzdins, Brady can go for me. That's about 15 minutes of PL playing time this season that we'd be letting go. Pope and Tarkowski might have plans too.
We need another RB if not now then soon; another LB, a CM and another striker. Being realistic, I don't think they'd be much better than what we have but they'd give some competition in those slots. If I could have one upgrade, it would be CM.
But yes, Crouch, Ward, Hart, Defour, Lennon, Vydra, Wells, Lindegaard, Legzdins, Brady can go for me. That's about 15 minutes of PL playing time this season that we'd be letting go. Pope and Tarkowski might have plans too.
We need another RB if not now then soon; another LB, a CM and another striker. Being realistic, I don't think they'd be much better than what we have but they'd give some competition in those slots. If I could have one upgrade, it would be CM.
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Can you just clear players out who are under contract to club?
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NL Claret wrote:Can you just clear players out who are under contract to club?
You can on football manager it seems
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Not on 2019. Far too hard!claretonthecoast1882 wrote:You can on football manager it seems
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
No. But a number of the likely candidates are out of contract in the summer and some of the others would be attractive to other clubs to allow you to make changes without taking a bath.NL Claret wrote:Can you just clear players out who are under contract to club?
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Lancasterclaret wrote:Not on 2019. Far too hard!
Some of our residents must play in a cheat mode then
Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
We can ask Defour’s agent as much as we want to find him another club but given next year could easily be his last season ever of earning big money then my guess is that 99% of agents and footballers in his position would just stay put...it may be different for some players who just want to play and may even take a pay cut to get their career back on track but Defour with his constant injuries might know his body just isn’t up to it anymore.
I think he will spend the year with us training and keeping himself relatively fit and then look for an easier league to try and comeback in as a free agent.
I think he will spend the year with us training and keeping himself relatively fit and then look for an easier league to try and comeback in as a free agent.
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Pope is too good to be on the bench and should be playing regularly in the PL. So, imo, the most urgent recruitment situation is two quality central midfield players and two quality centre forwards.
Heaton/Hart
Lowton/Bardsley
Tarkowski/Long
Mee/Gibson
Taylor/Ward
JBG/Hendrick
Westwood/????
Cork/????
McNeil/Brady
Barnes/????
Wood/????
Heaton/Hart
Lowton/Bardsley
Tarkowski/Long
Mee/Gibson
Taylor/Ward
JBG/Hendrick
Westwood/????
Cork/????
McNeil/Brady
Barnes/????
Wood/????
Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Definitely going / out of contract
Walters, Wells, Crouch, Ward (unfortunately)
Offer new contract - 1 year - Bardsley
Can go if we get a decent offer
Hart & Lennon and to a lesser extent Brady and Defour
Vydra, I'm not sure about, perhaps he needs a full pre-season?
We would then need to sign a new left back for cover, a right mid, striker and a centre mid, that should see us in pretty good shape.
Walters, Wells, Crouch, Ward (unfortunately)
Offer new contract - 1 year - Bardsley
Can go if we get a decent offer
Hart & Lennon and to a lesser extent Brady and Defour
Vydra, I'm not sure about, perhaps he needs a full pre-season?
We would then need to sign a new left back for cover, a right mid, striker and a centre mid, that should see us in pretty good shape.
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Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Ward retired from international football to give himself a longer club football career, there isn't the budget to replace him or Bardsley this window if we want two midfielders and a forward of decent quality this window. Maybe next year we'll be looking at bringing in a RB and a LB..thatdberight wrote:It's hard to tell what Dyche thinks. In theory, why would you give Ward another contract. He's not played all season and he's what, 33? Yes, he's been great and, for all that Taylor has improved, there was a time early in the season when it really wasn't clear he was going to be OK. But then why would you have two experienced keepers as back-up to your top two and yet refuse to play them and buy Hart? So, it's not always clear why we do what we do.
But yes, Crouch, Ward, Hart, Defour, Lennon, Vydra, Wells, Lindegaard, Legzdins, Brady can go for me. That's about 15 minutes of PL playing time this season that we'd be letting go. Pope and Tarkowski might have plans too.
We need another RB if not now then soon; another LB, a CM and another striker. Being realistic, I don't think they'd be much better than what we have but they'd give some competition in those slots. If I could have one upgrade, it would be CM.
Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Get rid of
Lennon
Hart
Vydra??
Crouch
Walters
Defour
I’m all for having experiance players around the squad but with Heaton, Mee, Ward, Cork, Barnes, Bardsley, Westwood there is plenty there.
Don’t by into we need to spend fortunes to get get players. Look at Fraser, Brooks, Maddison, McNeill etc. There’s bundles of players out there. Name them you say? Pay me to watch football all week every week and I’ll get back to you in 2/3 months.
Some might say Leicester and Bournemouth pay big wages but 6 players I’ve listed won’t be here for peanuts either.
Lennon
Hart
Vydra??
Crouch
Walters
Defour
I’m all for having experiance players around the squad but with Heaton, Mee, Ward, Cork, Barnes, Bardsley, Westwood there is plenty there.
Don’t by into we need to spend fortunes to get get players. Look at Fraser, Brooks, Maddison, McNeill etc. There’s bundles of players out there. Name them you say? Pay me to watch football all week every week and I’ll get back to you in 2/3 months.
Some might say Leicester and Bournemouth pay big wages but 6 players I’ve listed won’t be here for peanuts either.
Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Brooks cost around £12m (which is £12m more than McNeil cost us !)....and Maddison was around £24m and Leicester pay big wages.
Fraser cost less than half a million but was bought a few years ago and he was a player that could not get in the team initially and was loaned out to Ipswich. Yes he has turned out to be a great bargain but we have had plenty of them too.
Hopefully we can unearth a few more bargains / gems like we have done in the past but it does seem like this is getting harder to achieve. Hopefully this summer we can get a couple of our main transfer targets over the line and spend some decent money whilst also unearthing good young players for the future like we have done with Pope, Tarks, Taylor, JBG who between them cost around £10m in total and are now worth at least 5 times that.
Fraser cost less than half a million but was bought a few years ago and he was a player that could not get in the team initially and was loaned out to Ipswich. Yes he has turned out to be a great bargain but we have had plenty of them too.
Hopefully we can unearth a few more bargains / gems like we have done in the past but it does seem like this is getting harder to achieve. Hopefully this summer we can get a couple of our main transfer targets over the line and spend some decent money whilst also unearthing good young players for the future like we have done with Pope, Tarks, Taylor, JBG who between them cost around £10m in total and are now worth at least 5 times that.
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I'm sure that if SD didn't think he no longer has the desire to play for Burnley and wanted him out, we wouldn't be asking for much of a transfer fee to help it happen. It could be that he may wish to sit it out and collect the wages, but I'd hardly call it big money though, not in the world of football.TVC15 wrote:We can ask Defour’s agent as much as we want to find him another club but given next year could easily be his last season ever of earning big money then my guess is that 99% of agents and footballers in his position would just stay put...it may be different for some players who just want to play and may even take a pay cut to get their career back on track but Defour with his constant injuries might know his body just isn’t up to it anymore.
I think he will spend the year with us training and keeping himself relatively fit and then look for an easier league to try and comeback in as a free agent.
It's all ifs, buts and maybe, my preference is that we get back the Defour that was doing the business. I hope he starts afresh with us next season but if he does, I'm sure that I wouldn't be alone in wondering how long will he last this time?
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We could clear out the players who have contributed to survival and bring in a load more Fulham style to appease UTC posters. Sorry, forgot I can't use Fulham as an example on here.
Dyche "Arran, Steve, sorry I'm clearing you out"
Arran / Defour "I'm under contract gaffer and I won't get better wages elsewhere so I'm staying put"
Click, click, delete.
Dyche "Arran, Steve, sorry I'm clearing you out"
Arran / Defour "I'm under contract gaffer and I won't get better wages elsewhere so I'm staying put"
Click, click, delete.