Who is going to vote on Thursday?

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Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:37 pm

After all the debate about Brexit, who is going to bother voting in the local elections??

I am lucky as I have a Burnley and Padiham independent to vote for, or I would not bother.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Spiral » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:39 pm

Moi. Lib Dem.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by thatdberight » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:47 pm

Spiral wrote:Moi. Lib Dem.
We could have guessed from, "Moi".
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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Spiral » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 am

Top banter. Internet points.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by thatdberight » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:44 am

Spiral wrote:Top banter. Internet points.
Merci.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Spiral » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:56 am

Only other French I know is 'selbstgefällig'.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:08 am

I don’t know if it’s true but I read that Burnley council intends to merge with Rossendale council.

Not a good idea!!

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:26 am

Going to sound ridiculously pretentious, but every time I think about not voting, I remember that its not a universal right.

Lib Dem, as the only leaflet I've seen is from them

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:30 am

Nope.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by bfcjg » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:34 am

I will. My late father in law told me once that men like him fought and a lot died for us to have the right to vote therefore I will.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:37 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Going to sound ridiculously pretentious, but every time I think about not voting, I remember that its not a universal right.
Lib Dem, as the only leaflet I've seen is from them
Doesn't sound pretentious, Lancs, you're absolutely right !

If the number of leaflets was the measure of voting in our ward, then the Greens would walk it !! Many many trees seem to have paid the ultimate price in the effort to get their Candidate on to Burnley Council in Whittlefield with Ightenhill ! :D
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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by MRG » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:41 am

Lib Dem’s would be a terrible vote in Burnley. Birktwistle should never get near politics again
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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:42 am

Clarets4me wrote:Doesn't sound pretentious, Lancs, you're absolutely right !

If the number of leaflets was the measure of voting in our ward, then the Greens would walk it !! Many many trees seem to have paid the ultimate price in the effort to get their Candidate on to Burnley Council in Whittlefield with Ightenhill ! :D
They have long term Green councillors in Lancaster, but not out here or I'd probably vote for them I think. Someone like the Greens or the Lib Dems tend to be better at a local level.

We have the famously useless Morecambe Bay Incompetents (they called themselves the Morecambe Bay Independants) but they were hilariously useless so I'm against independents unless I actually know them.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:44 am

I haven't decided whether i want to vote or whether i want to p*ss in the ballot box.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by AndyClaret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:51 am

Not Thursday, but not far off.
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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by thatdberight » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:58 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Going to sound ridiculously pretentious, but every time I think about not voting, I remember that its not a universal right.

Lib Dem, as the only leaflet I've seen is from them
So he says, "Pretentious!? Moi?"

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:17 pm

Funny, isn't it, that Kippers support proportional representation yet they call the EU undemocratic despite the fact that we use PR to elect our MEPs.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Imploding Turtle » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:18 pm

MRG wrote:Lib Dem’s would be a terrible vote in Burnley. Birktwistle should never get near politics again
He doesn't appear to be on Lib Dem list of candidates in the North West.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by tiger76 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:33 pm

No local elections North of the border this year,so we'll have to wait until the European's if they happen.

I note UKIP are only standing in 6 of the 15 seats up for grabs,so whether that will benefit either of the main parties,or whether the Kippers stay at home we'll have to see.

What caught my eye is one Peter Pike is standing in the Cliviger/Worsthorne ward at the tender age of 81,normally this would be a safe Conservative seat,expect the crazy days when the BNP captured it,however with the national situation and his name recognition you can't rule out a return to the town hall for Peter.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by taio » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:41 pm

I won't be letting the bullshite of national politics influence me. I will vote for the best local candidate who works hard for our local community. Which for me means I will be voting Lib Dem.
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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by AndyClaret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:54 pm

I voted for the only candidate who actually lives in my ward.
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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by BurnleyPaul » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:26 pm

tiger76 wrote:What caught my eye is one Peter Pike is standing in the Cliviger/Worsthorne ward at the tender age of 81,normally this would be a safe Conservative seat,expect the crazy days when the BNP captured it,however with the national situation and his name recognition you can't rule out a return to the town hall for Peter.
I’d imagine the Peter Pike is only standing because the likely candidate (Andy Devanney) stood in the by-election down in Burnley Wood 2-3 weeks ago and there is nobody who was willing to undertake the political equivalent of a suicide mission in that ward!

I don’t think that Peter expects to return to frontline politics anytime soon....

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by tiger76 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:41 pm

BurnleyPaul wrote:I’d imagine the Peter Pike is only standing because the likely candidate (Andy Devanney) stood in the by-election down in Burnley Wood 2-3 weeks ago and there is nobody who was willing to undertake the political equivalent of a suicide mission in that ward!

I don’t think that Peter expects to return to frontline politics anytime soon....
That's why i stated in normal times the Conservatives would romp home,i'd still expect them to hold the seat,they have a high-profile candidate defending (one of the Towneley's),but UKIP are standing and could attract some regular Conservative voters,equally many Conservative voters might sit at home,i definitely think there will be some surprises come next Thursday/Friday,whether that ward is one we'll have to wait and see,but having a quick glance through the recent results,it's not as safe a Conservative seat as people assume,in addition the LibDems aren''t standing,so their votes are up for grabs also.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:02 pm

Its local elections nothing to do with Brexit.
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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by tiger76 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:07 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:Its local elections nothing to do with Brexit.
I'd agree but many voters seemingly think differently,it's always disappointing when good local councillors from any party are swept aside due to the prevailing national climate,but it's happened before and will no doubt happen again.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by MACCA » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:26 pm

Not me, I don't mix with the peasants, I do a postal vote in the comfort of my own home.

Ps remember it's not about who you want in power etc, vote with your head, not your heart.
Being a robot and ticking labour/conservative etc just because you always have, won't help.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:18 pm

tiger76 wrote:No local elections North of the border this year,so we'll have to wait until the European's if they happen.

I note UKIP are only standing in 6 of the 15 seats up for grabs,so whether that will benefit either of the main parties,or whether the Kippers stay at home we'll have to see. What caught my eye is one Peter Pike is standing in the Cliviger/Worsthorne ward at the tender age of 81,normally this would be a safe Conservative seat,expect the crazy days when the BNP captured it,however with the national situation and his name recognition you can't rule out a return to the town hall for Peter.
UKIP are standing in only 3 wards, not 6, Hapton with Park, Gawthorpe and Cliviger with Worsthorne ...

Speaking to some friends who are politically active locally, the canvessing Tories are getting some abuse because of the handling of Brexit and Teresa May, whilst Labour are getting pelters from military families or ex servicemen households as well as from Brexiteers ... ;) ;)

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:29 pm

Why anyone in their right mind would waste their time and effort to bother is beyond me

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Vintage Claret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:59 pm

To answer the OP, I am.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Siddo » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:03 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Why anyone in their right mind would waste their time and effort to bother is beyond me
You have shown your ignorance on political matters before on here, but this really is ridiculous.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Top Claret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:19 pm

Not a clue who I will vote for but it has to be a pro Brexit party, which rules out Labour, libs, Tories and Greens. So unless there is something different on there I will probably just put a line across the paper.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:26 pm

Top Claret wrote:Not a clue who I will vote for but it has to be a pro Brexit party, which rules out Labour, libs, Tories and Greens. So unless there is something different on there I will probably just put a line across the paper.
If you want Brexit so are not voting Labour because they are not for Brexit, and I don't want Brexit and I'm not voting Labour because they are for Brexit it rather suggests (on an admittedly v.small sample of 2!) that their attempts not to offend anyone are offending everyone.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:28 pm

MACCA wrote:Not me, I don't mix with the peasants, I do a postal vote in the comfort of my own home.

Ps remember it's not about who you want in power etc, vote with your head, not your heart.
Being a robot and ticking labour/conservative etc just because you always have, won't help.
Your last line is what's wrong with voters in the UK.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by tiger76 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:37 pm

I'm confused why brexit is so salient in a local election campaign,but if that's your choice fair enough,i despise Nicola Sturgeon but have a very active and competent SNP councillor so he gets my vote,surely the UK public are smart enough to distinguish between different elections,and the impact that voting can have,take Burnley as an example if Labour have a bad night it's feasible Burnley will go to NOC,it's unlikely but not impossible.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by tiger76 » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:51 pm

Clarets4me wrote:UKIP are standing in only 3 wards, not 6, Hapton with Park, Gawthorpe and Cliviger with Worsthorne ...

Speaking to some friends who are politically active locally, the canvessing Tories are getting some abuse because of the handling of Brexit and Teresa May, whilst Labour are getting pelters from military families or ex servicemen households as well as from Brexiteers ... ;) ;)
Apologies get them mixed up with the B&P Indies who are standing 6,surprised the Lib Dems are only contesting 7 seats,and yet the Greens to their credit have a full slate,i know Burnley was a heavily leave area,but by default the Greens could pick up lots of remain voters,purely by being on the ballot in some wards.

Interesting anecdotal evidence,i have seen reports of the main parties canvassers having a rough time in other places also,however there is a number of seats nationwide where the ballot paper will only have 3 options,in some wards there might be as less as two,usually Con/Lab,but some instances of Con/Lib Dems or Lab/Lib Dems,this is mainly due to the decline of UKIP,so if you're a brexit leaning voter,your choice is limited which is why the best option is too vote on local everyday topics,anyone that wants to send a brexit message is better waiting until May,assuming of course the EU Elections go ahead,which is anyone's guess.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by I luv my wife » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:54 pm

When we talk about local elections and who does what my experience would be who is the best person to challenge the Labour party at full council and also at committee level and I mean speaking just look at the attendance levels of the sitting councillors and their voting

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by I luv my wife » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:05 pm

Lowbankclaret what exactly do the bpip stand for reading their leaflets when they talk about only being interested about local issues which is very easy to criticise when you are not in power so we can assume they will be putting no candidate's forward for the county elections or God forbid the mp elections because let's not forget they are only interested in local issues

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by bfcmik » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:18 pm

I have already cast my postal vote for what will be the 3rd placed candidate in my ward. Easy Tory win in both the ward and Solihull Council (32 Cons, 11 Greens, 4 LDs, 1 UKIP, 2 Labour, 1 Independent - 17 seats up for election)

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by dsr » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:45 pm

Top Claret wrote:Not a clue who I will vote for but it has to be a pro Brexit party, which rules out Labour, libs, Tories and Greens. So unless there is something different on there I will probably just put a line across the paper.
Be careful that it's a line and not a cross. I once attended the general election count at Pendle and one paper had a cross diagonally from corner to corner. The Returning Officer, who must have been either a crook or seriously thick, decided that even though the paper wasn't filled in in accordance with electoral rules, there was no doubt that the vote was intended for Gordon Prentice because the junction of the cross met in the middle of his name. Basically, he was saying that there was no possibility it was a spoilt ballot.

Might be safer to write "None of the above" over all the boxes.
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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:21 pm

Siddo wrote:You have shown your ignorance on political matters before on here, but this really is ridiculous.
Why

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Longsidebogs » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:45 am

Only the main parties plus Green in my ward. Green Party it is then. Can’t wait for European elections and the next General Election.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by chorleyhere » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:47 am

I am and will be voting for the hard working local councillors who are doing a good job in Chorley.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Corky » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:35 am

I always vote. Fortunately here in Hart we have a good group of independent Community Councillors who are non Political. Gets right up the noses of the Tory toffs.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:50 am

Vote for hard working independents.
Or UKIP/Greens
Despite not being councillors already the UKIP candidates of Gawthorpe and Hapton do a lot for the community.
Hopefully the Gawthorpe ward isn't won by the worn out Labour councillors of the past.

But it will need a lot of Labour candidates getting defeated for the council to change for the better.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by IanMcL » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:20 pm

I am free of local elections until 2021.
However, what I say to everyone, is look for a local person, who cares about your community and who is articulate enough to represent the views shared by most in your community. Someone, who has thought about what is needed and practical/deliverable for you and your neighbours and will put effort into ensuring that the project(s) has/have the best chance.

Voting is important and a right. Locally, it can make a real difference.

Good luck for great outcomes for every community.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:26 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Vote for hard working independents.
Or UKIP/Greens
Despite not being councillors already the UKIP candidates of Gawthorpe and Hapton do a lot for the community.
Hopefully the Gawthorpe ward isn't won by the worn out Labour councillors of the past.

But it will need a lot of Labour candidates getting defeated for the council to change for the better.
Get those trains running on time

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:25 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Get those trains running on time
Crass comment, really, Lancs ! You're usually more considered than that ....

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by bobinho » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:21 pm

Green I think at this moment in time.

The only one who actually does something in my ward, even tho she isn’t currently the councillor.

Local issues are considerably different to the national ones, so I’ll vote for who I think will work hard for everyone in my area.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:46 pm

I will, just so I can add to the number that didn't vote Tory or Labour. I have a mate standing for the Greens, it will probably be him who benefits.

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Re: Who is going to vote on Thursday?

Post by South West Claret. » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:02 pm

I expect everyone to vote seeing as people way back fought for our right to vote now, yes that's right there was a time when the **** at the top didn't think it fit for the likes of us to have the right to vote.

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