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'It's one of my best achievements' - Dyche

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Re: 'It's one of my best achievements' - Dyche

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed May 01, 2019 6:31 pm

I agree, I was sure we would be watching Championship football next season.

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Post by Leisure » Wed May 01, 2019 6:37 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:I agree, I was sure we would be watching Championship football next season.
Ye of little faith. In Dyche we trust. UTC

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Re: 'It's one of my best achievements' - Dyche

Post by FactualFrank » Wed May 01, 2019 6:43 pm

I'm sure he's learned a hell of a lot since Christmas.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed May 01, 2019 6:45 pm

Great we have a manager who prefers being in a relegation scrap over coming 7th. Cant wait for next season
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Post by Vino blanco » Wed May 01, 2019 6:47 pm

He learned not to play Hart in goal, not to play Hendrick in the number 10 role, not to give Mee the captaincy, not not to play Wood and Barnes together, and thankfully Lennon getting injured got him out of the team and brought McNeil in. Without these changes, we may well have been playing in the Championship next season.
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Post by 4:20 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:47 pm

I never doubted Dyche once during his reign but I will admit I wavered during December. I couldn't see any way out of it after Everton and was coming round to the idea that Sean had peaked and we were staring straight down the Championship barrel. I still thought he was the man for the job, maybe a soft reboot of the team etc and go for it again. What happened after Boxing was nothing short of a relative footballing miracle. I don't think I'll ever doubt the man again, what a legacy,
- Keeps us afloat in the Championship
- Totally unexpected 1st promotion
- Bounces back from relegation 23 undefeated
- Barnfield Training Centre
- Keeps us in the Premier League
- Nurtures a handful of England International players
- Navigates us to an amazing 7th and Europa
- Funds state of the art disabled facilities
- Pulls us out of near certain doom and has a remarkable 2nd half of a season, keeping us in the PL yet again.

The guy is a god.
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Re: 'It's one of my best achievements' - Dyche

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Wed May 01, 2019 6:49 pm

We are very lucky to have Sean Dyche at the helm, no matter what the ne'er do wells want to think, say, or infer.

In Dyche we Trust !
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Post by Vino blanco » Wed May 01, 2019 6:50 pm

I thought Owen Coyle was God?

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Post by 4:20 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:53 pm

Vino blanco wrote:I thought Owen Coyle was God?
To quote Bill Murray,

"I'm a god — I'm not THE God"
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Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:59 pm

Just lets hope he signs some better players in the summer - you know the ones that are first choice regulars

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Post by Spijed » Wed May 01, 2019 7:02 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:Just lets hope he signs some better players in the summer - you know the ones that are first choice regulars
Our current first eleven is pretty good!
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Post by Vino blanco » Wed May 01, 2019 7:14 pm

Pretty good might not be good enough for the PL. we need strengthening in midfield and more pace up front.
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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Wed May 01, 2019 7:32 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Great we have a manager who prefers being in a relegation scrap over coming 7th. Cant wait for next season
Yawn. Bore off.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed May 01, 2019 7:36 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Great we have a manager who prefers being in a relegation scrap over coming 7th. Cant wait for next season
To be fair second half has been incredible. I doubt even the famed allerdyce wouldve had that impact. Absolutely incredible.

He is intelligent. Articulate and progressive and we are lucky to have him.

The thing that impressed me post City defeat was his honesty about our situation. He said if he had the budget and the opportunity he would look to improve our style. The problem is the limitations we have. Some are self imposed some arent. But he is very good at playing to our strengths.

Ideally we will start to be more competetive in cups. Aim to go for europe again etc as aiming for survival alone will soon get very boring. But as long as we keep progressing as a club and team we cant complain.

On the field this year we have gone backwards. But as a club we are still moving forwards. Hopefuly this season is a lesson and we see gradual improvements in both style and quality.
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed May 01, 2019 8:40 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Pretty good might not be good enough for the PL. we need strengthening in midfield and more pace up front.
The players who have played in the 2nd half of the season certainly seem good enough for this league. 2 or 3 quality signings needed to add to this group.
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Re: 'It's one of my best achievements' - Dyche

Post by paulatky » Wed May 01, 2019 9:04 pm

Certainly is his greatest achievement.
In his post match interview after the Palace game he looked lost for words for the first time I remember.
Hope what really happened in those first 19 games eventually comes out in someones autobiograghy .
The change in Ben Mee in the last 17 games compared to those 1st 19 games is extraordinary,

If he thinks its his biggest achievement I believe the signing of Hart has been his biggest mistake,

Not that I think Hart is a bad keeper just that his style didnt suit our style of play/players
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Post by summitclaret » Wed May 01, 2019 9:05 pm

Just hope that we are not seeing the excuses already for not signing the central midfielder( s) that we need. Aarron Mooy is the obvious signing and should doable.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed May 01, 2019 9:18 pm

Yes. Remember him post palace. Never seen him look so shellshocked.

He obviously took time to reflect on it though.

Got to love him.

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Post by Hibsclaret » Wed May 01, 2019 9:38 pm

Not sure how anyone can describe this season as going backwards given the last 17 games have provided a higher points to games ratio than last season when we finished 7th. I think this is what he means along with learning from the trials and tribulations of games 1 to 19 and the other distractions, lack of pre-season etc.

The current team has shown it is more than good enough in 2019 and with a few tweaks who knows how well we can do...

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Post by Caballo » Wed May 01, 2019 9:41 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Great we have a manager who prefers being in a relegation scrap over coming 7th. Cant wait for next season
Devils advocate requires a modicum of intellect, you're falling some way short.
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Post by Spijed » Wed May 01, 2019 9:47 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:On the field this year we have gone backwards.
Attacking wise we haven't as we have scored more goals.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed May 01, 2019 9:48 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Not sure how anyone can describe this season as going backwards given the last 17 games have provided a higher points to games ratio than last season when we finished 7th. I think this is what he means along with learning from the trials and tribulations of games 1 to 19 and the other distractions, lack of pre-season etc.

The current team has shown it is more than good enough in 2019 and with a few tweaks who knows how well we can do...
But the seasons measured over 38 games not 17. Obviously last 17 have been pheonomenal. But had the season been reversed, it would be classed as a shambles.

Overall its been ok. Last half of the season fantastic. Forst half after finishing 7th and getting in europe was shambolic. To get knocked out of europe, start the seasom how we did, get beat off Burton and get as many humpings as we did was very disappointing.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed May 01, 2019 9:49 pm

Spijed wrote:Attacking wise we haven't as we have scored more goals.
Points win prizes

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Post by dsr » Wed May 01, 2019 10:24 pm

Caballo wrote:Devils advocate requires a modicum of intellect, you're falling some way short.
Not the way he does it. All it takes to be a devil's advocate is to listen to everyone saying "the sun is shining", and to disagree, eg. by saying "that's not the sun, it's the moon".

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Post by Hibsclaret » Wed May 01, 2019 10:25 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: But had the season been reversed, it would be classed as a shambles.
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But it wasn’t reversed so there’s no point referencing that.

It was obviously going to be harder starting the season in July and playing Sunday, Thursday with the associated travel etc. Clearly that was harder than playing less games the previous season along with the limited pre season. It was a learning curve for a smaller club in Europe and there are many other examples of where smaller teams have struggled in the prem alongside Europa games.

The boss himself clearly believes that this season has been more satisfactory and I agree.

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Post by Joe14 » Wed May 01, 2019 10:31 pm

Brilliant recovery. Should have dropped Hart well before we actually did but better late than never!!!!

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Post by Siddo » Wed May 01, 2019 10:37 pm

I notice that the SD critics are slowly resurfacing.
He is singly the best thing ever to happen to our club.
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Post by Claretmatt4 » Wed May 01, 2019 11:29 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Interview with Dyche
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -last.html
Fairly interesting read but what an appealing website with intrusive ads and fake news splattered all over the shop like **** in a blender.
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Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed May 01, 2019 11:39 pm

I think it shows the clarity of Sean's thinking. Lots of other managers would look at it as a poor season, I agree with SD.
It's his ability to pick the positives out of any game, that rubs off on the players and gets them to over achieve again and again.
We know we dont have the best squad in the Premier League, but I doubt another manager could get as much out of them as Sean does. We're very lucky to have him
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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 02, 2019 12:12 am

Claretmatt4 wrote:Fairly interesting read but what an appealing website with intrusive ads and fake news splattered all over the shop like **** in a blender.
yep it's horrendous :(

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Post by Rowls » Thu May 02, 2019 12:59 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:But the seasons measured over 38 games not 17. Obviously last 17 have been pheonomenal. But had the season been reversed, it would be classed as a shambles.
And if your auntie were a man she'd be your uncle.

Or should that be he'd be your uncle?

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Post by IanMcL » Thu May 02, 2019 2:14 am

I am, personally, very pleased that Mr Dyche is in charge of my football team.

These last years have been incredible.
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Post by Spijed » Thu May 02, 2019 7:13 am

Vino blanco wrote:we need strengthening in midfield and more pace up front.
You might catch a few with the pace bit! ;)

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu May 02, 2019 8:08 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Great we have a manager who prefers being in a relegation scrap over coming 7th. Cant wait for next season

On the plus side will allow you to continue your comedy act
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu May 02, 2019 9:03 am

Rowls wrote:And if your auntie were a man she'd be your uncle.

Or should that be he'd be your uncle?
Hence in the grand scheme of things it turned it ok. But theres no hiding the first half of the season was shocking.

We can pretend it didnt happen. And approach next year in the same way...

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Post by scrambledclaret » Thu May 02, 2019 9:03 am

summitclaret wrote:Just hope that we are not seeing the excuses already for not signing the central midfielder( s) that we need. Aarron Mooy is the obvious signing and should doable.
Yeah, maybe, I thought when City signed him that he might have been worth a gamble for us. He is a great player, just think he's lacking a bit of pace at this level and is a bit too one footed for playing centrally. He'd improve the squad for sure but would he walk into the first team?

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Post by deanothedino » Thu May 02, 2019 9:11 am

Vino blanco wrote:He learned not to play Hart in goal, not to play Hendrick in the number 10 role, not to give Mee the captaincy, not not to play Wood and Barnes together, and thankfully Lennon getting injured got him out of the team and brought McNeil in. Without these changes, we may well have been playing in the Championship next season.
Mee was captain for the majority of the season we finished 7th, must have been really hurting us.

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Post by Stayingup » Thu May 02, 2019 9:20 am

A few factors as mentioned above. Some of them being the goalkeeper change (though I would prefer we kept Pope - age and hieght basis), Mee settled. Mee and Taylor learnting to play together. McNeil factor, Westwood hitting top form and of course Barnes and Wood. Not forgetting that Bardlsey came in and stiffened things up and is a bit inlucky not to be in the team now.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Thu May 02, 2019 9:46 am

The improvement in not just form, but performances as well, since the home drubbing against Everton has been fantastic.

Full credit, to Dyche, his staff and the players.

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Post by deanothedino » Thu May 02, 2019 9:57 am

Stayingup wrote:Bardlsey came in and stiffened things up and is a bit inlucky not to be in the team now.
More than a bit unlucky to injury himself on the side of a table.

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Post by dsr » Thu May 02, 2019 10:17 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Hence in the grand scheme of things it turned it ok. But theres no hiding the first half of the season was shocking.

We can pretend it didnt happen. And approach next year in the same way...
We can pretend it didn't happen, that's true. But I don't think we could play 6 European qualifying games in pre- or early season.

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Re: 'It's one of my best achievements' - Dyche

Post by Rowls » Thu May 02, 2019 11:08 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Hence in the grand scheme of things it turned it ok. But theres no hiding the first half of the season was shocking.

We can pretend it didnt happen. And approach next year in the same way...
True, but we also need to accept that the order of things is consistent with Dyche's ability to address problems and turn round sides who aren't performing.

He did it in between his first half season and first full season, he did it again in the Championship winning season after Boxing Day and he's done it once again after a Boxing Day defeat.

That's three times he's turned things round. We've got to be getting towards it being "statistically significant".

Sometimes things just fall into place for managers and they don't have to do much, but on at least three occasions now Dyche has turned a side round.

Even in the year we were relegated from the Premier League under Dyche, we saw a notable upturn in the second half of the season as results improved.

This is what gives me cause for optimism for next season.

UTC

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Re: 'It's one of my best achievements' - Dyche

Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu May 02, 2019 1:13 pm

There is another strength to our first team group and that is when Beardsley and McNeill were keeping others out there were no rumblings of discontent being leaked. An important factor. Same with the Heaton, Hart and Pope dilemma.

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