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Tim Martin

Postby basil6345789 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:59 pm

His latest article on Brexit shoots down Remainers' scaremongering on every count. In latest Spoons mag - a must read.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:00 pm

so not a pacy winger we are in for then

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby TheFamilyCat » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:03 pm

'Shoots down' with actual facts or just disagrees?

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Lancasterclaret » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:08 pm

This board doesn't show brexiteers in a good light it has to be said.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Walton » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:15 pm

A decent breakdown of why the Wetherspoons owner is wrong again

https://twitter.com/GavinQuinney/status/1006939143618940930?s=19
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Re: Tim Martin

Postby joey13 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:41 pm

Phew, and there was me fretting

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby piston broke » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:43 pm

He’s a prick.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby basil6345789 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:46 pm

Tim Martin is never wrong.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby TheFamilyCat » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:01 pm

basil6345789 wrote:Tim Martin is never wrong.


The brainwashing power of a £1.09 pint of John Smiths Ice Cold Super Smooth dishwater is phenomenal.
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Re: Tim Martin

Postby CnBtruntru » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:11 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:'Shoots down' with actual facts or just disagrees?


I think he means he's an Attacking Midfielder ;)

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Blackrod » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:13 pm

Thought this was about that Norfolk farmer but then realised he was Tony.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:16 pm

Martin has come out with some dubious claims about EU tariffs but on the sparkling wine front he is simply being patriotic. Which is a good thing. Surely?

He no doubt judges that due to the Wetherspoons demographic he needs to fly the flag, and will be rewarded for it, not, as some nutter pundits claim, by anticipating a sterling crash, but by getting a bigger customer share.

Chapel Down is as good as most champagnes, global warming has really helped it. Our beer is better than any. We should be keeping our money in the country, giving it to British businesses, who can then reinvest it back in the UK, in staff or facilities. Well done Wetherspoons.
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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Walton » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:18 pm

He could start by paying British breweries full price for their wares, instead of paying heavily discounted rates for dregs
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Re: Tim Martin

Postby dsr » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:18 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:This board doesn't show brexiteers in a good light it has to be said.

On the other hand, there are some pretty good compliments directed at the great and the good who support the EU. Only a few days back you yourself were described as "have a very annoying habit of knowing what you're talking about and being right about a whole lot of stuff". Quite a compliment indeed.

I don't know what you have to do to get that sort of compliment. Oh, hang on, yes I do - you write it yourself. :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18234&start=200 (post 208)
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Re: Tim Martin

Postby RingoMcCartney » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:20 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Martin has come out with some dubious claims about EU tariffs but on the sparkling wine front he is simply being patriotic. Which is a good thing. Surely?

He no doubt judges that due to the Wetherspoons demographic he needs to fly the flag, and will be rewarded for it, not, as some nutter pundits claim, by anticipating a sterling crash, but by getting a bigger customer share.

Chapel Down is as good as most champagnes, global warming has really helped it. Our beer is better than any. We should be keeping our money in the country, giving it to British businesses, who can then reinvest it back in the UK, in staff or facilities. Well done Wetherspoons.



I'll raise a glass to that!

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby RingoMcCartney » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:22 pm

dsr wrote:On the other hand, there are some pretty good compliments directed at the great and the good who support the EU. Only a few days back you yourself were described as "have a very annoying habit of knowing what you're talking about and being right about a whole lot of stuff". Quite a compliment indeed.

I don't know what you have to do to get that sort of compliment. Oh, hang on, yes I do - you write it yourself. :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18234&start=200 (post 208)


Absolute unadulterated quality bullseye hitting post!

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby JohnMcGreal » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:38 pm

Tim Martin is a prize tit.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Lancasterclaret » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:41 pm

Good point!

But it must really grind your gears, and I mean really, really, really bug you that on Brexit its pretty much spot on.

Even I didn't think I'd be this right, which is actually fairly terrifying as my vision was fairly apocalyptic!

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Spijed » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:44 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Martin has come out with some dubious claims about EU tariffs but on the sparkling wine front he is simply being patriotic. Which is a good thing. Surely?

He no doubt judges that due to the Wetherspoons demographic he needs to fly the flag, and will be rewarded for it, not, as some nutter pundits claim, by anticipating a sterling crash, but by getting a bigger customer share.

Chapel Down is as good as most champagnes, global warming has really helped it. Our beer is better than any. We should be keeping our money in the country, giving it to British businesses, who can then reinvest it back in the UK, in staff or facilities. Well done Wetherspoons.


So why isn't protectionism an unqualified success if we should be keeping everything in-house?

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby SGr » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:58 pm

People like you are the reason he backed Brexit. It is not in his business interests whatsoever from a production standpoint but he knows if he brings out this fake flag waving it’ll win favour with the clientele. Simple opportunism, nothing more.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Lancasterclaret » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:01 pm

And worth saying as well that British sparkling wine is as good as champagne, due to the soils being identical.

Doesn't change the fact that he sells very little of it, or that he's a massive knob though

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby dsr » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:17 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Good point!

But it must really grind your gears, and I mean really, really, really bug you that on Brexit its pretty much spot on.

Even I didn't think I'd be this right, which is actually fairly terrifying as my vision was fairly apocalyptic!

You're right about the incompetence of British politicians and the malice of EU ones. But I'm still right in principle. In my opinion of course, because I don't have your Papal infallibility. And perhaps more to the point, I don't believe I have Papal infallibility.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby RingoMcCartney » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:20 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:Tim Martin is a prize tit.


He's a very very, self made, wealthy prize tit.....

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Lancasterclaret » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:20 pm

As long as I'm one of the Borgias I'll take that!

But its nothing than dealing with facts and reality and reaching a dispiriting conclusion.

Sadly

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby LeadBelly » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:21 pm

Fair cast Basil. Although- catching rabid pro or anti Brexiters is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Re: Tim Martin

Postby CrosspoolClarets » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:16 am

Spijed wrote:So why isn't protectionism an unqualified success if we should be keeping everything in-house?


Because protectionism guarantees us inferior products as consumers.

That is not the same as being patriotic.

Protectionism means we may choose a Renault over a Ford despite the Ford potentially being better, because of the import tariff.

Patriotism means that if two things are similar in quality we are all mad not to prioritise the British one.

Free trade, zero tariffs, zero protectionism, total consumer choice. That’s the way forward. If one country undercuts us, we should flex our currency accordingly (there will be exceptions sure, but that should be the broad policy).

Of course, the EU may not want to do free trade with us, but we shouldn’t cave in when threatened and bullied. They won’t have a free trade agreement long term with China, Canada, Australia etc and not with us - that is just daft and pessimistic.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Greenmile » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:59 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Martin has come out with some dubious claims about EU tariffs but on the sparkling wine front he is simply being patriotic. Which is a good thing. Surely?

He no doubt judges that due to the Wetherspoons demographic he needs to fly the flag, and will be rewarded for it, not, as some nutter pundits claim, by anticipating a sterling crash, but by getting a bigger customer share.

Chapel Down is as good as most champagnes, global warming has really helped it. Our beer is better than any. We should be keeping our money in the country, giving it to British businesses, who can then reinvest it back in the UK, in staff or facilities. Well done Wetherspoons.


Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. I’m not that surprised that you think it’s a good thing. After all, you also seemed pretty ambivalent about the prospect of bullets flying in N Ireland on another thread, so your colours are well and truly tied to the mast for all to see.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:59 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:As long as I'm one of the Borgias I'll take that!

But its nothing than dealing with facts and reality and reaching a dispiriting conclusion.

Sadly



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Re: Tim Martin

Postby basil6345789 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:06 am

Is going to a small independent coffee shop for a brew ipv Costa or Starbuck's protectionism? If so I'm a protectionist.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby South West Claret. » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:22 am

It may come as no surprise to some that Wethspoons shares have gone north since the vote, not that I'm suggesting he has been pro leave for that reason you understand...

http://charts.moneyam.com/Chart.aspx?Pr ... sDate&SV=0

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby Walton » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:30 am

South West Claret. wrote:It may come as no surprise to some that Wethspoons shares have gone north since the vote, not that I'm suggesting he has been pro leave for that reason you understand...

http://charts.moneyam.com/Chart.aspx?Pr ... sDate&SV=0


JDW's performance lags behind their competitors such as Enterprise Inns though.

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Re: Tim Martin

Postby South West Claret. » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:43 am

Walton wrote:JDW's performance lags behind their competitors such as Enterprise Inns though.


That's not the point.


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