O/T I want to come home

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O/T I want to come home

Postby karatekid » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:19 am


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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:20 am

Hard to disagree

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:23 am

Good news for her... she is home and there she should stay
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby bobinho » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:32 am

Someone will be along in a minute to explain how she should be allowed to come home and be welcomed back into civilised society.

Surprised they aren’t here already tbh with the amount of snowflakery we get these days...
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:33 am

To be fair, she's just taken a slightly longer gap year than normal. Not everyone wants to build houses in Africa or snowboard in New Zealand you know!
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby ZizkovClaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:34 am

Double tap to the forehead.

Next
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Fenwick » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:35 am

I think she should be allowed home. The severed heads filling the bin were from enemies of Islam so that was quite normal to regard as perfectly ok.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby ElectroClaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:42 am

"I don't regret coming here."

Fine. Sounds like she's doing OK , then.
So she can stay where she is.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Dyched » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:44 am

She could do abit of scouting for us whilst she’s there

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Dy1geo » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:48 am

Knowing some people in this country her homecoming will be similar to the airport one in Love Actually

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby IndigoLake » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:52 am

I don't think she should be allowed. However, she was still essentially a child when she made the decision to go to Syria. Should that be taken into account? Probably not but trying to see both sides of things.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby karatekid » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:01 pm

Would she still want to come home if IS were still thriving in that region?
No.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby LoveCurryPies » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:06 pm

We need a clear message to other young people considering going out...

You are free to go but there is no coming back.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Buxtonclaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:13 pm

Got the impression she wanted to come back here to have her baby. Probably with a mind to go back later to the buckets full of heads life with her offspring, where he/she would presumably become either a future fighter or a child bride for IS.
It's certainly a test for our democracy.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Herts Clarets » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:14 pm

The only time she should be anywhere near this country is if she returns in a body bag. Bed has been made, I am afraid she has to lie in it. If she was old enough to make a conscious decision to catch a flight, cross a country border and join a terrorist organization who's aims she did and clearly still does support, she can live with the consequences. Or even better go the way of her friend and become acquainted with one of those US missiles.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby 2 Bee Holed » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:25 pm

She says this baby is imminent.
You cannot fly after 36 weeks of pregnancy.
Problem solved, thank you HM Government, my fee is in the post! :lol:
Child will be born abroad, and should never be given a British passport.
She can of course make her way overland, give her a donkey, it'll be born somewhere else.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Jeffbfc » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:28 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:The only time she should be anywhere near this country is if she returns in a body bag.


Na. Not even then for me.
Sod her.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:32 pm

Just for a bit of reality (yeah! I know! Sucks doesn't it?) the government minister has already said she can come home but she will have to contact consular support which means leaving the refugee camp and making it to Iraq, Jordan, Lebannon, Turkey or Israel. Then she will be interviewed by the police on arrival.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Burnley Ace » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:34 pm

What, other than her age, has changed between her being a brainwashed, groomed 15 year old and a brainwashed, groomed 19 year old?

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby charlyt » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:39 pm

She made her bed.
Now leave her to sleep on it.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby TheFamilyCat » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:47 pm

She can’t have done much fighting, seems that she’s spent most of her time there getting herself up the duff.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:48 pm

Is the dad still around?

Or has he been spread even further around by US missiles?

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Murger » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:49 pm

She should have had her citizenship revoked as soon as she boarded the plane.
She says seeing severed heads in bins doesn't faze her. She hasn't changed and will never change. I don't want **** like that walking the streets. Let the **** rot whether she is.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby houseboy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:49 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:She says this baby is imminent.
You cannot fly after 36 weeks of pregnancy.
Problem solved, thank you HM Government, my fee is in the post! :lol:
Child will be born abroad, and should never be given a British passport.
She can of course make her way overland, give her a donkey, it'll be born somewhere else.

I know a good stable.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby FactualFrank » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:50 pm

Fenwick wrote:I think she should be allowed home. The severed heads filling the bin were from enemies of Islam so that was quite normal to regard as perfectly ok.


She said she didn’t mind seeing people’s severed heads in a fully laden bin. Aye, because it reminded her of her hero, bin laden.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Bosscat » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:55 pm

Picture this....

Bleeding hearts campaign to allow her back, and so she is allowed to come back to the UK....
15 years down the line she has brainwashed her **** offspring and taught "it" IS values.....


How do we know it is not an IS plot to flood the west with sleeper jihadi babies so in 15-20 years time they can start Terrorist cells.

LET HER AND HER CHILD live in the country she wanted to call home SYRIA.... Tough luck girl you chose the life... Live it.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Dark Cloud » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:57 pm

The attractions of a NHS midwife suddenly seem very appealing it would seem, but as others have said, maybe somebody should have thought about that in the first place. Oh, and I think we all know the old story of the Trojan horse......Not sure what made me think of that tbh...?
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby bfcjg » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:01 pm

Let her stay and rot there. She would be a drain on society likewise her baby, she would be held up as an icon and obviously the green light is then given to other would be jihadists.
Remember this lot want to slaughter all non sunni muslims who don't convert that is her belief keep her away from the UK.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby FactualFrank » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:03 pm

Let's be fair we are a very soft country. We'll let her back in.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby houseboy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:04 pm

Pregnant? Another child on benefits.
Only 15 when she went? I think I knew basic right from wrong at 15.
Genuinely sorry? Doesn't seem so.
Another potential trained terrorist in our midst? Quite possibly.
Contribute to British society by way of taxes and culture? Definite no.
Will the child be raised to love/preserve the freedoms we have? Unlikely.

Ergo: what the hell is the government doing even considering this request? She was free to go and serve an enemy quite willingly and turn her back on the country that (presumably) raised her. If any of this is to do with the childs rights then that is wrong because this child will be brought up with the same values that took it's mother off to 'fight for Allah'.

Talk about the enemy in the midst? I have no problem with muslims and I know loads who are brilliant but we have to accept that there are bad apples and this girl is very obviously one.

I'm guessing if she is allowed back it will be with extreme secrecy and anonimity, if only for her own safety. The only way she should be allowed back is to face trial for treason.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Falcon » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:07 pm

Bring her back to have the child, stick her in jail on terrorist offences, then take the baby into care.

We get justice for her crimes and the baby doesn't grow up to be an IS fighter. Win win.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:11 pm

I had a Shamima Begum in my class back in the early/mid 80s!

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Vino blanco » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:14 pm

As long as she doesn't come to live anywhere near me in Spain.....

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:16 pm

So she joined an organisation dedicated to the destruction of the UK, so what?
People join these crazy cults every day for god-only-knows-what reasons.
These are by far the worst...

https://www.conservatives.com/join

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby winsomeyen » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:31 pm

Falcon wrote:Bring her back to have the child, stick her in jail on terrorist offences, then take the baby into care.

We get justice for her crimes and the baby doesn't grow up to be an IS fighter. Win win.



Leave her where she is Win Win.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Healeywoodclaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:38 pm

This girl / woman has waived any rights to British Citizenship. Her unborn child is NOT a British Citizen. She has shown zero remorse. Why should our tax payers pick up the bill for slinging her in Prison, getting Social Services to find a fit and proper family to raise her offspring, educate her offspring and provide health care for her and her offspring. She's home now. She should stay right where she is. She is not welcome here. Two words National Security.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:43 pm

So she wants to come home to use the NHS?
She's admitted she wasn't strong enough to stay with the fighters and has shown zero remorse for what IS have done to prisoners etc.

Nah, I'm not having that, leave her over there and refuse her entry to the UK based on the fact she's the member of a terrorist organisation.
Once she's back here and her kid is born over here it's harder to throw her back out again.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Tribesmen » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:53 pm

Reminds me of a man who was fighting for the same lot in Syria and now wants to come back to Ireland as he says he is Irish , well I think he should be left there also same as the girl .

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby LoveCurryPies » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:07 pm

Falcon wrote:Bring her back to have the child, stick her in jail on terrorist offences, then take the baby into care.

We get justice for her crimes and the baby doesn't grow up to be an IS fighter. Win win.


And the taxpayers get an 18 year bill to support another child in care? That's not a win.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Falcon » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:17 pm

That's the price of having a justice system

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:32 pm

Falcon wrote:That's the price of having a justice system


The only part of the system we need to use is the part that stops her returning

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby grapidianclaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:32 pm

Very hard to feel any sympathy for her. Just listened to the story on BBC America.
However, somebody in the school,the local council and the police , all of them with knowledge of the grooming taking place, 4 years ago, should be fired, without any doubt. They took the decision to not alert the parents of these 15 year old girls, to what was going on. Criminal.
Not saying she should be allowed back in to the UK, but it should never have gotten to this stage.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Moorite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:49 pm

Sol Campbell's got more chance of managing Spurs than she has being welcomed back into the country.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby basil6345789 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:54 pm

Why didn't she want the 2 kids she killed to be back here - why now?

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby basil6345789 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:54 pm

Why didn't she want the 2 kids she killed to be back here - why now?

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby dpinsussex » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:01 pm

Its Brexits fault :)

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby Funkydrummer » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:07 pm

If we let the b@stard back in, you can see what's coming next. A request to let the bearded sperm donor in
as it's only right that a child should be brought up in a proper family environment.

Leave her where she chose to go - no good will come of letting her back in here.
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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby grapidianclaret » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:11 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:If we let the b@stard back in, you can see what's coming next. A request to let the bearded sperm donor in
as it's only right that a child should be brought up in a proper family environment.

Leave her where she chose to go - no good will come of letting her back in here.

You got a problem with beards?

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby ClaretAndJew » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:12 pm

Sleeper Jihadi babies has to be the best thing I've ever read.

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Re: O/T I want to come home

Postby houseboy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:13 pm

Falcon wrote:Bring her back to have the child, stick her in jail on terrorist offences, then take the baby into care.

We get justice for her crimes and the baby doesn't grow up to be an IS fighter. Win win.

One flaw with that otherwise decent idea. The child may grow up to be aggrieved at the treatment of its mother and be just as bad. The only way it would work is to make sure it never finds out who its mother was.


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