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Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Mala591 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:41 am

"To invest in a well managed English Premier League football team with a view to recruiting proven quality, technically gifted footballers (soccer players) capable of playing high tempo, creative and exciting football."

This strategy is obviously not without definate and serious risks BUT how else can we compete (playing attacking and entertaining football) at the highest level?

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby mdd2 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:45 am

We can't and won't. No one with any ££££££ sense would invest in us if they were expecting any returns on their investment. We would be a Notlob, Coventry PDQ once he/she got bored by it all

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Spijed » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:48 am

mdd2 wrote:We can't and won't. No one with any ££££££ sense would invest in us if they were expecting any returns on their investment. We would be a Notlob, Coventry PDQ once he/she got bored by it all


Because of that I've always wondered why someone invested in Bournemouth as there can't be much money to be made.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby gandhisflipflop » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:53 am

mdd2 wrote:We can't and won't. No one with any ££££££ sense would invest in us if they were expecting any returns on their investment. We would be a Notlob, Coventry PDQ once he/she got bored by it all



We are heading for the same divisions anyway with such rank defeatist attitudes from top to bottom within the club

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby texasbrit » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:55 pm

no club of the size of Burnley will ever make a long term success of the PL without multi millions being invested, the finances just doesnt work and the PL is not managed that way, whether you like it or not.

You need significant investment to manintain a sustained PL presence or resign yourself to being a lower league club that ventures in to the top flight now and again.

There is nothing to stop a billionnaire investment working if its managed correctly the reason why most clubs fail after miillions have been invested is that the investors want full control and then either walk away when it doesnt work or take the cash and run, if you put the correct levels of protection in place it can work.

What do fans want?
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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:06 pm

we don't even come close to a sell out in a huge game against Leicester, why the **** would anyone want to invest in us ?
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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Spijed » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:09 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:we don't even come close to a sell out in a huge game against Leicester, why the **** would anyone want to invest in us ?


But then again, why would anyone want to invest in Bournemouth?

Obviously a reason for it.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:10 pm

Spijed wrote:But then again, why would anyone want to invest in Bournemouth?

Obviously a reason for it.


sunny in Bournemouth :lol:
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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby nyclaret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:37 pm

I've heard it through the grapevine that Garlick is interested in selling and that we do have a potential buyer. A local Burnley fan who is worth a lot more than Mr. Garlick. Not sure if he'd buy if we were to be relegated however.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Dark Cloud » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:44 pm

For every good one, there's 5 or 6 bad ones. It's a lottery and you really have to be careful what you wish for. Just ask fans of Pompey, Brum, Bolton, Coventry, Oldham, Bradford..............crumbs the list is almost endless!!

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby gandhisflipflop » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:45 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:For every good one, there's 5 or 6 bad ones. It's a lottery and you really have to be careful what you wish for. Just ask fans of Pompey, Brum, Bolton, Coventry, Oldham, Bradford..............crumbs the list is almost endless!!



We are heading for the same division as a few of them clubs anyway.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby gandhisflipflop » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:46 pm

nyclaret wrote:I've heard it through the grapevine that Garlick is interested in selling and that we do have a potential buyer. A local Burnley fan who is worth a lot more than Mr. Garlick. Not sure if he'd buy if we were to be relegated however.



Why not? It would be arguably cheaper to buy so more attractive to a potential fan.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Spijed » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:49 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:We are heading for the same division as a few of them clubs anyway.


Difference is Bolton deserve to go bust!

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Dark Cloud » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:53 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:We are heading for the same division as a few of them clubs anyway.

I take your point, but we'll be in better shape I hope!

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Bosscat » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:13 pm

nyclaret wrote:I've heard it through the grapevine that Garlick is interested in selling and that we do have a potential buyer. A local Burnley fan who is worth a lot more than Mr. Garlick. Not sure if he'd buy if we were to be relegated however.

Nah I decided to save my money sorry lads.....

The 2 steps to making a small fortune are

Step one, start with a big fortune.
Step two, buy football club.
Result being, your large fortune becomes smaller rapidly.....

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:we don't even come close to a sell out in a huge game against Leicester, why the **** would anyone want to invest in us ?


How would our attendance against Leicester negatively impact how attractive a proposition the football club is to potential investors?

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby BurnleyPaul » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:21 pm

Spijed wrote:Because of that I've always wondered why someone invested in Bournemouth as there can't be much money to be made.


He lives in the area....ran into somebody connected with Bournemouth whilst out walking on the beach once day!

He’s not doing it as an investment- more as a way of integrating into British society and for the entrance it’s given him into boardrooms and business generally....

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote:How would our attendance against Leicester negatively impact how attractive a proposition the football club is to potential investors?


potential growth, basic business

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Billyblah » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:32 pm

He’s not doing it as an investment- more as a way of integrating into British society and for the entrance it’s given him into boardrooms and business generally....[/quote]

'Integrating into British society" we don't want to go down the Venkys route with clueless foreigners who have ££m but don't understand the culture of the game. Meanwhile other multi millionaire owners have attempted to change club colours to something more "lucky"....oh and then we have British multi millionaires.... the Oystons being a case in point.
Be careful what you wish for
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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:potential growth, basic business


No it isn't. An investor isn't going to pay any attention whatsoever to a few hundred empty seats in a one off game with horrible weather conditions and a local motorway closed.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:49 pm

Bosscat wrote:Nah I decided to save my money sorry lads.....

The 2 steps to making a small fortune are

Step one, start with a big fortune.
Step two, buy football club.
Result being, your large fortune becomes smaller rapidly.....


Not true in Garlick's case though.
Buy shares
Don't risk the value of your shares falling by opening the dry powder store to spend on lavish things such as players or improving the stadium. Just the bare minimum spend you can realistically get away with.
Sell shares
Leave with a big profit

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:53 pm

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:Not true in Garlick's case though.
Buy shares
Don't risk the value of your shares falling by opening the dry powder store to spend on lavish things such as players or improving the stadium. Just the bare minimum spend you can realistically get away with.
Sell shares
Leave with a big profit


How does the value of Garlick's shares rise?

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Claretmatt4 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:53 pm

Anyone investing in us is not going to be doing it to make money it's an ego trip and we'll be cast aside like any other hobby.

If it means selling out to someone who cares nothing for us then I'd rather not. Staying up is meaningful because we've worked hard for it not just spent our way to success
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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:55 pm

Rileybobs wrote:No it isn't. An investor isn't going to pay any attention whatsoever to a few hundred empty seats in a one off game with horrible weather conditions and a local motorway closed.


really ? so you don't think an investor looks at potential growth then ?

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:55 pm

Rileybobs wrote:How does the value of Garlick's shares rise?


It tends to happen when the value of the company rises. Which includes the money in the bank.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Pstotto » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:57 pm

And we've got to attract THE FINEST TALENT to the UK...

Yaboo sucks.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:57 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:really ? so you don't think an investor looks at potential growth then ?


Yes, but I fail to see how our attendance against Leicester, taken in isolation, gives any insight into potential growth.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:58 pm

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:It tends to happen when the value of the company rises. Which includes the money in the bank.


And what is the best way for the value of the company to rise?

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:01 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Yes, but I fail to see how our attendance against Leicester, taken in isolation, gives any insight into potential growth.


only you've taken it in isolation, I could have listed 95% of our home games.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby PutTheWheelieBinsOut » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:01 pm

Rileybobs wrote:And what is the best way for the value of the company to rise?


Well in a lot of cases it's to invest the profits back in to the company so there is a chance to make greater profits in the future. I think however Garlick takes a different approach.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:only you've taken it in isolation, I could have listed 95% of our home games.


Vegas Claret wrote:we don't even come close to a sell out in a huge game against Leicester, why the **** would anyone want to invest in us ?


That was you taking the game in isolation. I fail to see the point you're making. A very small percentage of a Premier League club's revenue is generated from spectators. We could have 40,000 season ticket holders and this would only account for approx £16m. Hence, a few hundred empty seats in the lashing rain isn't going to figure in the mind of an investor.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Pstotto » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:10 pm

'And what is the best way of the value of the company to rise....'

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:11 pm

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:Well in a lot of cases it's to invest the profits back in to the company so there is a chance to make greater profits in the future. I think however Garlick takes a different approach.


And investing the profits back in to the company is exactly what Garlick has done. He's done this in the form of player purchases, stadium improvements and training ground improvements. He might not have invested as much as you'd have liked him to, but I'm guessing that he's a hell of a lot more successful than you in business so I would certainly side with his way of doing things over yours.

He may take a different approach to some other chairmen, however those chairmen are able to run their football club at a loss due to their wealth.
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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:12 pm

Rileybobs wrote:That was you taking the game in isolation. I fail to see the point you're making. A very small percentage of a Premier League club's revenue is generated from spectators. We could have 40,000 season ticket holders and this would only account for approx £16m. Hence, a few hundred empty seats in the lashing rain isn't going to figure in the mind of an investor.


you are now only looking at season tickets, that's not potential growth

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:you are now only looking at season tickets, that's not potential growth


I'm using season tickets because you brought up attendances. Potential growth for a football club like us is an increase in revenue from TV deals. A club with a larger fan base is clearly more of an attractive investment than us but the main reason why people want to invest in Premier League football clubs is to take advantage of the huge sums of money on offer from the TV deals. Our attendance against Leicester is largely irrelevant.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:23 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I'm using season tickets because you brought up attendances. Potential growth for a football club like us is an increase in revenue from TV deals. A club with a larger fan base is clearly more of an attractive investment than us but the main reason why people want to invest in Premier League football clubs is to take advantage of the huge sums of money on offer from the TV deals. Our attendance against Leicester is largely irrelevant.


If you think the only way we can increase our revenue is by a TV deal then I don't think anything I say will make a difference. Also if my memory serves well (which it often doesn't!), the TV money is going down not up in the next deal so god help us ! The attendance is far from irrelevant and represents an extraordinary short sighted view on potential

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Woodleyclaret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:23 pm

We once had an investor allegedly looking to invest serious money ."Millionaire"Ray Ingelby .That didnt go too well.Also the less said about Flood and investing in our club the better.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:If you think the only way we can increase our revenue is by a TV deal then I don't think anything I say will make a difference. Also if my memory serves well (which it often doesn't!), the TV money is going down not up in the next deal so god help us ! The attendance is far from irrelevant and represents an extraordinary short sighted view on potential


I don't think that's the only way we can increase our revenue, but the TV deal is clearly the big draw from an investment point of view, I'm not sure how you can dispute this.

I don't understand why you think that our attendance against Leicester means that no one would want to invest in us? I'm just asking a question about a statement that you made and you seem unwilling to clarify.

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Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:45 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I don't think that's the only way we can increase our revenue, but the TV deal is clearly the big draw from an investment point of view, I'm not sure how you can dispute this.

I don't understand why you think that our attendance against Leicester means that no one would want to invest in us? I'm just asking a question about a statement that you made and you seem unwilling to clarify.


Who disputed the TV deal is a draw for investors and probably the biggest draw at that ? I didn't

On the attendance thing it's pretty obvious. Lets say we average 18k with a potential maximum growth to 19-20 given the size of the ground - shirt sales, sponsorship deals, corporate boxes etc are limited. If an investor see's an opportunity to build a new ground and fill it with 40k then all the basic things I just mentioned go up, especially the corporate side. However, I feel we don't have that potential given the catchment area etc which is one of the reasons we aren't an attractive option for an investor - there's a reason the investment goes to the bigger clubs (Bournemouth excluded, but it would be interesting to see if they could fill a 30k stadium for example as the catchment area is huge) and that is for future potential. I think for anyone to write off the attendances as a non factor is bizarre - if it was just about TV money then every club would have investment, the proof thus lies in the pudding

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Chester Perry » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:51 pm

The big draw for investment is the TV deal and FFP regulation combined with restrictions on wage growth - it encourages you to make a profit and creates an environment were losses are frowned upon. The premier league would be awash with more American owners if we added no relegation, but that would almost instantly lead to a true franchise model and a club like ours would be bought and moved to another city asap

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:51 pm

Mala591 wrote:"To invest in a well managed English Premier League football team with a view to recruiting proven quality, technically gifted footballers (soccer players) capable of playing high tempo, creative and exciting football."

This strategy is obviously not without definate and serious risks BUT how else can we compete (playing attacking and entertaining football) at the highest level?

Oh no we dont Tubbs. This is a local club for local people!
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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Who disputed the TV deal is a draw for investors and probably the biggest draw at that ? I didn't

On the attendance thing it's pretty obvious. Lets say we average 18k with a potential maximum growth to 19-20 given the size of the ground - shirt sales, sponsorship deals, corporate boxes etc are limited. If an investor see's an opportunity to build a new ground and fill it with 40k then all the basic things I just mentioned go up, especially the corporate side. However, I feel we don't have that potential given the catchment area etc which is one of the reasons we aren't an attractive option for an investor - there's a reason the investment goes to the bigger clubs (Bournemouth excluded, but it would be interesting to see if they could fill a 30k stadium for example as the catchment area is huge) and that is for future potential. I think for anyone to write off the attendances as a non factor is bizarre - if it was just about TV money then every club would have investment, the proof thus lies in the pudding


To clarify I haven't written off attendances as a non-factor for investors, and you know I haven't so I don't know why you are claiming that I have. You stated that no one would want to invest in us and used our attendance against Leicester as a reason why. That is clearly absurd as we are very investable. I think you just said something silly and it would make more sense for you to own up to that than go around the houses. There's not much point discussing this any further.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:56 pm

Rileybobs wrote:To clarify I haven't written off attendances as a non-factor for investors, and you know I haven't so I don't know why you are claiming that I have. You stated that no one would want to invest in us and used our attendance against Leicester as a reason why. That is clearly absurd as we are very investable. I think you just said something silly and it would make more sense for you to own up to that than go around the houses. There's not much point discussing this any further.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and I'e explained why I gave our attendances as an issue, if we are so investable then why hasn't happened ? Incredibly glad you've never been involved in any of my businesses

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Paul Waine » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I don't think that's the only way we can increase our revenue, but the TV deal is clearly the big draw from an investment point of view, I'm not sure how you can dispute this.

I don't understand why you think that our attendance against Leicester means that no one would want to invest in us? I'm just asking a question about a statement that you made and you seem unwilling to clarify.


Hi Rileybobs,

So, Burnley FC remain in the Premier League - and receive the (approx) same share of tv money as all the other 19 PL teams. The tv revenue needs to be spent on players, some transfers in (less any transfers out) and player wages (maybe coaching staff as well). Let's imagine that the ST income and other ticket sales, covers all the other costs of the club, including maintaining the ground (playing surface, stands etc) and the training ground and all the development teams.

An investor might ask herself/himself how long can Burnley stay in the Premier League, what do I need to do to give the team - and, therefore, my investment - the best chance to always be in 17th or higher at the end of the season? If I'm confident I can achieve this, then maybe my investment is safe - and maybe I can start to explore how it will grow in value.

Or, maybe I factor in the risk of relegation to the Championship - and I start to create scenarios when the team can gain promotion, again, from the Championship back up to the PL.

And, I put into this the amount of additional investment/new cash I will need to find to continue to "build the team" and my investment.

So, Burnley FC get Premier League tv money - and so do all the other PL clubs. BFC have a certain level of fan base - and the potential to grow that fan base by X? And, Burnley have a long and proud history of being among England's top football teams (and they can never take the past away from us.)

But, as an investor - unless I have a connection with the town of Burnley/N.E Lancs - I might ask myself why would I invest my money in Burnley? Should I, instead, take a look at Newcastle (I forgot has Mike Ashley got the for sale sign out at the moment, or not?) or at many other clubs?

And, what about the other clubs in the division below? Will it be cheaper to buy one of those and build that club up? How does their potential fan base compare with Burnley's? How close are competing football clubs to them? etc, etc?

I think that's the reality. It's not just the tv money, it's not just player wages, it's not the number of ST tickets (or the price of those STs), it's definitely not the £24 million cash in the back and all the creditors that may need to be paid from some of that cash, it's always the whole package - and the risk of going down and the cost of giving the club the chance to stay up.

As one of the posters on this site has posted once or twice, and then some - of course, in a very different context - it's the realities.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Dazzler » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:04 pm

There's not only the Russian fellow who has put money in Bournemouth.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ake-to-us/

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:05 pm

Vegas Claret wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and I'e explained why I gave our attendances as an issue, if we are so investable then why hasn't happened ? Incredibly glad you've never been involved in any of my businesses


No, you said;

'we don't even come close to a sell out in a huge game against Leicester, why the **** would anyone want to invest in us ?'

That is a ridiculous claim, and nothing you have said since has clarified why us not selling out against Leicester means that no one would want to invest in us. You've waffled on about other things which I'm not even disagreeing with.

And your final sentence just comes across as pompous as you know nothing about me or my credentials.

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Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:09 pm

Rileybobs wrote:No, you said;

'we don't even come close to a sell out in a huge game against Leicester, why the **** would anyone want to invest in us ?'

That is a ridiculous claim, and nothing you have said since has clarified why us not selling out against Leicester means that no one would want to invest in us. You've waffled on about other things which I'm not even disagreeing with.

And your final sentence just comes across as pompous as you know nothing about me or my credentials.


and I also said I could have listed 95% of our home games, you seem to ignore points that don't suit your agenda. You are right, I know nothing about you so I can only go off what you say on here. I actually think you are one of the better posters on here
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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:09 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Hi Rileybobs,

So, Burnley FC remain in the Premier League - and receive the (approx) same share of tv money as all the other 19 PL teams. The tv revenue needs to be spent on players, some transfers in (less any transfers out) and player wages (maybe coaching staff as well). Let's imagine that the ST income and other ticket sales, covers all the other costs of the club, including maintaining the ground (playing surface, stands etc) and the training ground and all the development teams.

An investor might ask herself/himself how long can Burnley stay in the Premier League, what do I need to do to give the team - and, therefore, my investment - the best chance to always be in 17th or higher at the end of the season? If I'm confident I can achieve this, then maybe my investment is safe - and maybe I can start to explore how it will grow in value.

Or, maybe I factor in the risk of relegation to the Championship - and I start to create scenarios when the team can gain promotion, again, from the Championship back up to the PL.

And, I put into this the amount of additional investment/new cash I will need to find to continue to "build the team" and my investment.

So, Burnley FC get Premier League tv money - and so do all the other PL clubs. BFC have a certain level of fan base - and the potential to grow that fan base by X? And, Burnley have a long and proud history of being among England's top football teams (and they can never take the past away from us.)

But, as an investor - unless I have a connection with the town of Burnley/N.E Lancs - I might ask myself why would I invest my money in Burnley? Should I, instead, take a look at Newcastle (I forgot has Mike Ashley got the for sale sign out at the moment, or not?) or at many other clubs?

And, what about the other clubs in the division below? Will it be cheaper to buy one of those and build that club up? How does their potential fan base compare with Burnley's? How close are competing football clubs to them? etc, etc?

I think that's the reality. It's not just the tv money, it's not just player wages, it's not the number of ST tickets (or the price of those STs), it's definitely not the £24 million cash in the back and all the creditors that may need to be paid from some of that cash, it's always the whole package - and the risk of going down and the cost of giving the club the chance to stay up.

As one of the posters on this site has posted once or twice, and then some - of course, in a very different context - it's the realities.

UTC


Hi PW. If you read over my posts you will see that I haven't said that our attendances or potential for growth are not a factor for investors. I have stated on numerous times that currently, the biggest draw for an investor is the lucrative deals on offer from television. I've said in a previous post that a club with a larger attendance or fan base is likely to be a bigger draw so I'm not disputing that. What I'm disputing is the claim that no one would want to invest in us because of our attendance, notably the fact that we didn't sell out against Leicester. That does not make us an unattractive investment opportunity.

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:11 pm

**** me Riley, I could have mentioned 95% of our attendances and you are stuck on Leicester - I mentioned that because it was yesterday and our most recent game

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Re: Billionaire investor wanted...

Postby Rileybobs » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:11 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:and I also said I could have listed 95% of our home games, you seem to ignore points that don't suit your agenda. You are right, I know nothing about you so I can only go off what you say on here


Jesus man, this was your post;

'we don't even come close to a sell out in a huge game against Leicester, why the **** would anyone want to invest in us ?'

Nothing about 95% of home games etc. The post above was the one that I questioned and you have gone off on a wild tangent, muddied the waters and still not clarified your original point.


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