Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

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Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby ElectroClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:30 am

Chelsea and Juventus have apparently agreed a £7 million compo fee for Maurizio Sarri
to move back to Serie A.
Chelsea are now expected to move to bring in Frank Lampard from Derby as replacement.
(BBC sport/ Mirror/ mail online)

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Buxtonclaret » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:36 am

So they won't be 'Frank Lampards' Derby anymore....
It's just one big disappointment after another for Ram's fans these days.
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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Goobs » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:31 am

Buxtonclaret wrote:So they won't be 'Frank Lampards' Derby anymore....
It's just one big disappointment after another for Ram's fans these days.

We can still refer to them as FLD though.

Football League Derby :lol:
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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:38 pm

Good appointment in my eyes.

Hopefully he is given time and patience, especially if his strategy is one of bringing through young, homegrown talent!

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:05 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Good appointment in my eyes.

Hopefully he is given time and patience, especially if his strategy is one of bringing through young, homegrown talent!


It doesn't matter if it's his strategy or not, it's the only option they've got this summer/season

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Shore claret » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:47 pm

A car crash waiting to happen

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:53 pm

Shore claret wrote:A car crash waiting to happen


Like many said about him moving to Derby. Where he did a very good job.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Funkydrummer » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:58 pm

He'll get plenty of help in the early days - then they'll get shut. :D

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby tim_noone » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:04 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like many said about him moving to Derby. Where he did a very good job.

He did indeed..........keeping them where they are!

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Spijed » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:06 pm

tim_noone wrote:He did indeed..........keeping them where they are!


Indeed. Had it not been Frank Lampard it would have been considered all a bit meh.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Funkydrummer » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:21 pm

Will he be selling Derby then ? :lol: :lol:

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Damo » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:22 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like many said about him moving to Derby. Where he did a very good job.

Aye, with half of Chelsea's development squad

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:28 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like many said about him moving to Derby. Where he did a very good job.


He finished with a point less than Derby had the previous season :lol:

I like Lampard and I'm impressed with what he's done so far to date, especially at such a basket case of a club, but he did no better than the previous manager...

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby ElectroClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:37 pm

I too like Lampard and if he gets the gig, I hope he does well (except when they play us).
However, I can't help thinking its a hell of a step up, given the exacting standards at Stamford Bridge and Romans itchy trigger finger.

Rather like Moyes at Man U.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Socrates » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:42 pm

This is very simple.

If he wasn’t Frank Lampard he would not be even remotely considered for this gig.

Chelsea finished 3rd last year, won the Europa and reached another Cup Final. It is absolutely wild that they are choosing to replace that manager with somebody who had a season marginally above par in the Championship.

That’s not to say it won’t work. But it is a massive, massive, massive gamble.
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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Wokingclaret » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:01 pm

As with Potter (now at Brighton) they should be left in the championship to prove themselves.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby ElectroClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:13 pm

Socrates wrote:This is very simple.

If he wasn’t Frank Lampard he would not be even remotely considered for this gig.


Spot on.
In fact, completely unarguable.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby rob63 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:04 am

Socrates wrote:This is very simple.

If he wasn’t Frank Lampard he would not be even remotely considered for this gig.

Chelsea finished 3rd last year, won the Europa and reached another Cup Final. It is absolutely wild that they are choosing to replace that manager with somebody who had a season marginally above par in the Championship.

That’s not to say it won’t work. But it is a massive, massive, massive gamble.


But one they might as well make- especially if they're hit with a transfer embargo cos if it's confirmed no big-name European manager will go near & there's always the chance the youngsters will prove themselves. If not, out he goes in time for the end of the embargo & a clean start.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:58 am

tim_noone wrote:He did indeed..........keeping them where they are!

Significant cost cutting. Limited investment. And sales.

did a good job. Especially getting into the play off final. Ultimately beaten by a far better team.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:58 am

Damo wrote:Aye, with half of Chelsea's development squad

Like that guarantees anything!?

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:07 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:He finished with a point less than Derby had the previous season :lol:

I like Lampard and I'm impressed with what he's done so far to date, especially at such a basket case of a club, but he did no better than the previous manager...

Except as you pointed out at a basket case club, with no investment and no experience himself.

The points comment is completely irrelevant. The aim was to finish top 6. He finished top 6. in the same position. Don't understand how the points even matter, its where you finish.

Liverpool finished on 97 points. The second highest prem points total ever. Better than the great Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal teams. Better than all City teams but one. They lost only once. Second best record ever. They didn't win the league.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:08 am

Socrates wrote:This is very simple.

If he wasn’t Frank Lampard he would not be even remotely considered for this gig.

Chelsea finished 3rd last year, won the Europa and reached another Cup Final. It is absolutely wild that they are choosing to replace that manager with somebody who had a season marginally above par in the Championship.

That’s not to say it won’t work. But it is a massive, massive, massive gamble.

But he is Frank Lampard.

As for Sarri, he hardly had a stellar record.

Chelsea have the best record of any club in hiring and firing managers. Like it or not their strategy works.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:41 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Except as you pointed out at a basket case club, with no investment and no experience himself.

The points comment is completely irrelevant. The aim was to finish top 6. He finished top 6. in the same position. Don't understand how the points even matter, its where you finish.

Liverpool finished on 97 points. The second highest prem points total ever. Better than the great Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal teams. Better than all City teams but one. They lost only once. Second best record ever. They didn't win the league.


The points comment is irrelevant if you're not interested in how he did compared to previous Derby managers.

You aren't interested.

Like I said, he did ok, but worse than the previous bloke.
If that's good enough for him to get the Chelsea job then fine, good luck to him because I do like Lampard and it would be interesting to see a young English manager finally given a shot at a top job.

It's also interesting how they've completely avoided another young English manager who's got far more managerial experience in the PL, Eddie Howe.....

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Woodleyclaret » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:29 am

Interesting how his pal JT isn't being lined up to assist
Did a great job at Derby especially stopping Dirty Leeds going up.
But its a one to two season gig with a hugh payoff as he gets the inevitable sack.Its Chelsea after all

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Socrates » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:41 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:But he is Frank Lampard.

As for Sarri, he hardly had a stellar record.


He won the Europa League.

He lost on penalties in another cup final.

The only two teams to finish above him in the league were arguably the two greatest in the history of the Premier League.

All this after taking the job after pre-season started. In his first season.

Use some critical thinking. Don’t just repeat platitudes you hear on TalkSport.

And if he’s getting the job because he’s Frank Lampard .... why not give the gig to Kerry Dixon? He’s got more managerial experience and is a Chelsea legend too.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Damo » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:45 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like that guarantees anything!?

Clearly not as they didnt get promoted.
But he clearly had some talented players for free, that probably weren't available to other clubs

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby Shore claret » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:10 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like many said about him moving to Derby. Where he did a very good job.

Wouldn't say a very good job, the Sheffield united and Norwich managers did very good jobs.
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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby elwaclaret » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:15 pm

I’d expect Lampard to do quite well initially at least. He’s treated like a God in West London and will command respect from all levels of the club.

I also think he’ll make a very good manager in the longer term given time, how long he gets is another question given it’s Chelsea.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby bfcjg » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:51 pm

If it's between Lampard and Benitez I can see the headlines now if indeed Frank gets the job " Lamps shades it "

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:18 am

Socrates wrote:He won the Europa League.

He lost on penalties in another cup final.

The only two teams to finish above him in the league were arguably the two greatest in the history of the Premier League.

All this after taking the job after pre-season started. In his first season.

Use some critical thinking. Don’t just repeat platitudes you hear on TalkSport.

And if he’s getting the job because he’s Frank Lampard .... why not give the gig to Kerry Dixon? He’s got more managerial experience and is a Chelsea legend too.

I’m on about before he was appointed at Chelsea.

Use some critical thinking.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:32 am

Shore claret wrote:Wouldn't say a very good job, the Sheffield united and Norwich managers did very good jobs.

All in context. And I don’t disagree. Both also did very good jobs.

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Re: Chelsea, Sarri and Lampard

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:33 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:The points comment is irrelevant if you're not interested in how he did compared to previous Derby managers.

You aren't interested.

Like I said, he did ok, but worse than the previous bloke.
If that's good enough for him to get the Chelsea job then fine, good luck to him because I do like Lampard and it would be interesting to see a young English manager finally given a shot at a top job.

It's also interesting how they've completely avoided another young English manager who's got far more managerial experience in the PL, Eddie Howe.....

The points are completely irrelevant. Means nothing. Where you finish is what matters. Not how many points you got. Ask Liverpool fans.

He finished in the same position. He did equally well in that respect. Even better when you consider the expectation and pressure on him, the lack of backing and the fact it was his first ever season.


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