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Paul Waine

1989_claret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:59 am
Any chance of them opening block 117 as can't get two together at the minute in 118 or 119 and hardly any left.

This post was on Monday 28th when tickets were on sale to ST + 2000 points.

Posted to show 117 wasn't on sale when Premium Members could buy. See post above.

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You could tell yesterday who the members were. They were either wearing clothes that were far too nice for a football game and/or they clearly weren’t from the Burnley area. Block 117 was full of Members from halfway up. A big group and several rows of people who were, let’s say, clearly from the n...

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We don't and the reality is that if the club makes more purchases like Espanyol it's quite possible that the ownership becomes even more complicated than it is. Pretty sure you didn't intend to type "if the club makes more purchases like Espanyol." We know that ALK/VSP are the entity that have boug...

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Do we know who are VSP investors though and as we can’t see Jersey accounts and others here have not yet been submitted, I wouldn’t be so sure about remuneration or more likely dividends going to the US. I can’t imagine any VSP investors not looking for a profit and income. Velocity Sports Partners...

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Row x wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:13 pm
You can get a years free subscription to the athletic via sky vip if you have sky sports

Interesting. Is Athletic available foc if you get Sky through Now?

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Probably nothing, but it would be nice to know who "actually owns the club" and then we could put a name to who is creaming off the profits, because there are some, but it's certainly not club profit, so where's it going. We know who owns the club: Alan Pace and colleagues in ALK Capital and the in...

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Can I mention Burnley's first game of the season, 2017/18 at Stamford Bridge. Chelsea were Premier League champions. Burnley 0-3 up at half time. We won the game 2-3. OK, we'd already been in the Premier League the season before, promoted in the 2015/16 season. Dare to dream. Spurs owe us one. UTC

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Unlike some, I have never found any of this exciting I am, and have long been well aware of Stuart Hunt's Papa Jon's associations - it has been previously discussed on the takeover thread. I was specifically referring to the UK arm of his activities outside the club - those 32 outlets are new infor...

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Just a guess, but perhaps the Premier League is trying to get a handle on who is using the tickets that are sold, in the first instance, to people registered with the club selling the tickets. Sending the digital tickets out late, perhaps, limits the opportunity for tickets to be sold on by the orig...

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It's a nice little summary compared to the other thread with 13,000+ posts. Also has this nice little graphic for the overall picture https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2025/08/14160444/epl_owners-1-1.png Hi aggi, I assume the graphic is from the Athletic article? I puzzled over the 50%, ...

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The only thing presented that is new to me and this forum is the HB Investments purchase of 32 Papa John restaurants 'across the north' in 2022 these are not owned by HB Pizza Ltd which has been in the process of voluntary Liquidation since September 2023 - incidentally HB Pizza Ltd has never produ...

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No link, CT.

I've seen a report that refs will also have a camera that tv broadcasters can use to show ref's view of events. Don't know any more about it. Is it all games, or just some?

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Late passing after making your opponent commit is very much a big deal in walking football at all levels of participation. Passing the ball to your team mate is all I look for in walking football. It's hard for a lot of the older players to do. Often need several attempts to get the ball under cont...

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I saw Hartman’s signing interview and he came across really well. Seems like a good bloke. This comment was a bit misguided though and perhaps a lesson for him to learn about the difference in culture between the Netherlands and the UK. Hi Rileybobs, may I suggest we can turn this around: Not just ...

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For the Spurs game around 400 ticket had hone before they went on sale at 2000 points. If 400 tickets had gone before they went on sale to STs >2,000 pts, then my guestimate would be: 1) hospitality season ticket holders; 2) players/other club officials tickets - friends and family; 3) premium memb...

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jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:58 pm
How many Koreans wearing Son shirts gonna be in our end then?

Will Son still be with Spurs by 16th August?

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Best wishes and good luck, Josh Brownhill.

UTC

PS: Anyone adding a comment can amend the subject line. "Bronwhill" (sic) can be corrected to "Josh Brownhill."

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God bless you, Willie Irvine. Rest in Peace.

My condolences to all Willie's family and friends.

One of my class mates (at a guess, 1966) was very proud to show us all the Northern Ireland shirt that Willie Irvine had given him.

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Hi Paul, I ran your critique through AI and got this response. AI says: Recently Relegated Premier League Clubs (e.g., Leicester City, Leeds United, Southampton, Everton) : In the financial years leading up to or immediately following their relegation, their annual reports would have undoubtedly em...

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Your wish is my command: AI says: You're asking for very specific information that is often considered commercially sensitive by football clubs and is not always detailed in their public annual reports with the specificity you're seeking. Audited financial reports focus on overall risk management s...

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Your wish is my command Paul. Burnley FC's financial health is intrinsically linked to its Premier League status, making relegation clauses a crucial, yet challenging, aspect of their financial strategy. These clauses, common in modern football, allow the club to manage the drastic financial impact...

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This is Times report (link takes you past pay-wall).

Man United fans may have to pay £4,000 to reserve seat at new stadium

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6e2414 ... 583a2b358a

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Spurs v Burnley the first game of the coming season. One club's season ticket prices are 4 times higher than the others. Stadium capacity 3 times higher. That's a tickets sale advantage of 12 times Spurs have over Burnley. Using figures above, if Burnley receive £6 million from ST sales, that sugges...

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"We insist on these for all signings" And you know that for a fact ? It was widely reported (even on here) that Brownhill was on circa £45k last season So, by your thought train, was he on £90k the season before and was he going to be on that this season - no wonder he considered himself to be unde...

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To be fair Paul for someone who has been such an advocate for ALK/Pace that is a somewhat surprising response. I think with a squad of nearly 40 and a Eur70 million summer spend so far we should be edging towards a squad that is good enough for the PL. And yet I doubt there is a single person on he...

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Bosscat wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:59 pm
Just been sent this ...

Along with the Lyrics to the song "3 Irons"

Hope nobody is offended

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Men will be doing the ironing if the Lionesses win this semifinal.

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Just one question Paul, do you not think it is reasonable to expect that we have a squad capable of mounting a serious campaign in the PL this time? We had a 100 point season in the Championship with I think a better squad going forward (not as many loanees or ageing PL players) than last time and ...

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Not sure it's anything like a buy to let ownership. I think it's clearer how they intend to proceed. It will become more like, a standard Private Equity ownership where distressed ownerships/ companies are bought that add value to the group. Ostensibly costs are cut by sharing functions like Financ...

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To be fair, it’s a bit of a stretch to compare our ownership structure to that of a buy-to-let landlord. I didn't say anything about BFC's ownership structure or about landlords. I just used buy-to-let properties to illustrate that debt on one property doesn't have to be repaid before buying a seco...

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So I'm guessing in this analogy the fans are the tenants hoping they don't have a rogue landlord or one who has over-leveraged and will need to sell up. I would agree though that I don't expect Burnley under ALK to become debt-free. There are probably always going to be loans, the question is what ...

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In your analogy, ownership cannot become a reality before the owner receives money from the mortgage provider on behalf of the buyer. And the mortgage provider is not going to be happy until it's pretty sure monies are going to be paid with interest. In our case, as "the property owner", we aren't ...

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I suppose the question is: Do you think that, if Velocity didn't owe Burnley FC circa £97m interest free with no pressure to repay, that they would have the funds to stump up EUR 65m for the Espanyol deal, plus other costs? which ever way you answer, it is still apparent that Burnley FC is enabling...

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Ortega + Bobb = £20 million Phillips Loan @ £5 million + £15 million cash Total £40 million. Win - Win City only have a £15 million PSR payment for a £40 million player and we receive our initial outlay plus 3 players. Sorry, that's (using your figures) £40 million away from getting around any PSR ...

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My first thought was another Americanisation was on its way, but play carries on even after the second free throw in basketball. Watching France v Germany. Just seen French goalkeeper save German penalty followed by the race to get to the ball which the French defender won. Football would be less i...

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The first communication from the chairman of Burnley FC to the Espanyol fans... https://x.com/AlanPaceBFC/status/1946587139853942905 Important post. Alan Pace studied in Barcelona. We should assume he speaks good Spanish. We should assume he understands a little of the culture of Espanyol fans. It'...

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Presumably to address the anomaly between penalties during the game (rebounds allowed) and penalties in a shoot out (rebounds not allowed) And the anomaly is what? Penalties during the game, the game is still being played: player shoots, keeper get's hand to the ball and it bounces back of the post...

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Interesting article by Martin Samuel in the Times today. Posting it here because it addresses football, football finances, all the new club owners and all the new football competitions. Football will always be the 90 minutes — it will rise above the noise Donald Trump giving Club World Cup trophy to...

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not if funds are transferred via inter company loans in the way we have seen previously - it is key that that RCD Espanyol now fall under Velocity Sports Ltd (Jersey) the entity that wholly owns the shareholding in Velocity Capital (UK) Limited the entity that owns 82.7% of Burnley FC Holdings Limi...

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No one appears to have asked the most important question. Are we now all fans of Espanyol? Will we go to watch Espanyol when we are in Spain for our holidays? Perhaps, we will also plan weekends in Barcelona to take in a game. Will we be able to get tickets for some of Espanyol's big home games, Rea...

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What I didn't say here, but remains relevant is that it appears that either: - Morgan Edwards and John Dewey are no longer part of ALK Capital LLC or, and this wouldn't be anywhere close to the first time - the detail offered on the club website is not fully factually correct if it is the latter - ...

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this feels topical - and a lesson that very few seem to realise, including the current owners at our club I would argue, who went against almost everything stated here when they arrived as even Sean Dyche acknowledged in the recent 'From the Bee Hole End' podcast from the Gameplayer blog of Jordan ...

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It has been public knowledge for a while that the deal is similarly constructed to the one used to takeover our club Hi CP, I'm curious about your words. What exactly has been "public knowledge for a while?" The deal has only been confirmed today. Has there been any previous public announcement on ...

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Congratulations Alan Pace and team on reaching agreement with the shareholders of Espanyol and adding the Spanish club to ALK/VSP group. It's good to know that the investors in ALK/VSP support what has been achieved so far with Burnley Football Club, and that you have your investors support to expan...

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Guys, this isn't "spam" it's spelt scam. The world is full of people out to scam other people. In the 1980s/90s it used to be low volume, letters mailed with the hope that someone would be fooled, perhaps with 10% pay out from aiding the scammed to move a lot of money from an otherwise dormant bank ...

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Your Essex boys had a good day that day. My 65s team are still wondering how we didn't beat your 65s! The only goal we conceded all day! Hi mik, my team were Surrey 70s. We beat Gtr Manchester 2-0 in the final. Surrey 65s came 3rd. I don't recall their results. Did you find out why Birmingham 70s w...

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Just chillin with a pint and this game is on the big screen, the one thing that stands out is the pitch looks massive. I can't help but think that if the pitch is reduced in size a bit, it would make it a much better game for the players. This isn't a slant on the women's game, it's just that given...

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Thanks for doing a search Paul, much appreciated. Maybe not then, for some reason I thought Micheal Dell was part of the LDS but he’s not so maybe that was the guy running MSD at the time of the purchase. Anyway, the report I read said they’re connected to “100’s” of family offices so who knows? Fo...

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That was my take from a brief bit of research. I’d be most interested to know if the Dell family were one of those ‘family offices’. I doubt Dell family are connected with Eccles family and Cynosure. There's nothing showing up on "search" that connects the two. Eccles family converted to Church of ...

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Not sure who told you that but I've seen plenty of late filing penalties and even prosecutions of directors for late filing of accounts before accounts have been filed. The main issue with the fines is that they are pretty small in the scheme of things. A few years ago I was fined £100 by Companies...

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WINDOW WATCH Kyle Walker close to signing two-year deal with Burnley The 35-year-old defender is set to join former team-mate Scott Parker at Burnley in a free transfer, though bonuses could be worth up to £5m for Manchester City Peter Rutzler | Martin Hardy, Northern Sports Correspondent, Friday Ju...

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