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by Paul Waine
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Penalty rebound to be banned
Replies: 26
Views: 1213

Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Presumably to address the anomaly between penalties during the game (rebounds allowed) and penalties in a shoot out (rebounds not allowed) And the anomaly is what? Penalties during the game, the game is still being played: player shoots, keeper get's hand to the ball and it bounces back of the post...
by Paul Waine
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Interesting article by Martin Samuel in the Times today. Posting it here because it addresses football, football finances, all the new club owners and all the new football competitions. Football will always be the 90 minutes — it will rise above the noise Donald Trump giving Club World Cup trophy to...
by Paul Waine
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

not if funds are transferred via inter company loans in the way we have seen previously - it is key that that RCD Espanyol now fall under Velocity Sports Ltd (Jersey) the entity that wholly owns the shareholding in Velocity Capital (UK) Limited the entity that owns 82.7% of Burnley FC Holdings Limi...
by Paul Waine
Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

No one appears to have asked the most important question. Are we now all fans of Espanyol? Will we go to watch Espanyol when we are in Spain for our holidays? Perhaps, we will also plan weekends in Barcelona to take in a game. Will we be able to get tickets for some of Espanyol's big home games, Rea...
by Paul Waine
Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

What I didn't say here, but remains relevant is that it appears that either: - Morgan Edwards and John Dewey are no longer part of ALK Capital LLC or, and this wouldn't be anywhere close to the first time - the detail offered on the club website is not fully factually correct if it is the latter - ...
by Paul Waine
Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10345
Views: 1525410

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

this feels topical - and a lesson that very few seem to realise, including the current owners at our club I would argue, who went against almost everything stated here when they arrived as even Sean Dyche acknowledged in the recent 'From the Bee Hole End' podcast from the Gameplayer blog of Jordan ...
by Paul Waine
Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

It has been public knowledge for a while that the deal is similarly constructed to the one used to takeover our club Hi CP, I'm curious about your words. What exactly has been "public knowledge for a while?" The deal has only been confirmed today. Has there been any previous public announcement on ...
by Paul Waine
Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Congratulations Alan Pace and team on reaching agreement with the shareholders of Espanyol and adding the Spanish club to ALK/VSP group. It's good to know that the investors in ALK/VSP support what has been achieved so far with Burnley Football Club, and that you have your investors support to expan...
by Paul Waine
Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5370
Views: 637192

Re: Summer transfer window

He guys, If you don't all stop guessing... Father Christmas might not come.

UTC
by Paul Waine
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spam
Replies: 8
Views: 2310

Re: Spam

Guys, this isn't "spam" it's spelt scam. The world is full of people out to scam other people. In the 1980s/90s it used to be low volume, letters mailed with the hope that someone would be fooled, perhaps with 10% pay out from aiding the scammed to move a lot of money from an otherwise dormant bank ...
by Paul Waine
Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ENG v NED Ladies
Replies: 17
Views: 1554

Re: ENG v NED Ladies

Your Essex boys had a good day that day. My 65s team are still wondering how we didn't beat your 65s! The only goal we conceded all day! Hi mik, my team were Surrey 70s. We beat Gtr Manchester 2-0 in the final. Surrey 65s came 3rd. I don't recall their results. Did you find out why Birmingham 70s w...
by Paul Waine
Wed Jul 09, 2025 6:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ENG v NED Ladies
Replies: 17
Views: 1554

Re: ENG v NED Ladies

Just chillin with a pint and this game is on the big screen, the one thing that stands out is the pitch looks massive. I can't help but think that if the pitch is reduced in size a bit, it would make it a much better game for the players. This isn't a slant on the women's game, it's just that given...
by Paul Waine
Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Thanks for doing a search Paul, much appreciated. Maybe not then, for some reason I thought Micheal Dell was part of the LDS but he’s not so maybe that was the guy running MSD at the time of the purchase. Anyway, the report I read said they’re connected to “100’s” of family offices so who knows? Fo...
by Paul Waine
Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

That was my take from a brief bit of research. I’d be most interested to know if the Dell family were one of those ‘family offices’. I doubt Dell family are connected with Eccles family and Cynosure. There's nothing showing up on "search" that connects the two. Eccles family converted to Church of ...
by Paul Waine
Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Not sure who told you that but I've seen plenty of late filing penalties and even prosecutions of directors for late filing of accounts before accounts have been filed. The main issue with the fines is that they are pretty small in the scheme of things. A few years ago I was fined £100 by Companies...
by Paul Waine
Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Clarets bring in Kyle Walker from Manchester City
Replies: 151
Views: 11876

Re: ARTICLE:Clarets bring in Kyle Walker from Manchester City

WINDOW WATCH Kyle Walker close to signing two-year deal with Burnley The 35-year-old defender is set to join former team-mate Scott Parker at Burnley in a free transfer, though bonuses could be worth up to £5m for Manchester City Peter Rutzler | Martin Hardy, Northern Sports Correspondent, Friday Ju...
by Paul Waine
Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I don't get why they invest but as you'll know there are LOTS of folks in America that can find 200 million down the back of their sofa and not miss it one bit. I suspect minimum investment is of the order of $5 million or $10 million per individual (or family). So far as I understand, none will be...
by Paul Waine
Sat Jul 05, 2025 4:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Interesting Paul. So not ALK Capital LLP or whatever the top entity is? Does Velocity Sports Partnership even exist in our structure? If not I assume it’s a separate acquisition? Hi New, there was a typo in my post. I should have typed "Velocity Sports Partners" not ""Partnership." If we go back to...
by Paul Waine
Sat Jul 05, 2025 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Yes, UK and US owned 2 billion dollar tech company but I have nothing to do with them other than they look to grow businesses by investing in future technologies like SAAS (in the past) or AI currently because that's how you raise the value of your products and compete in the marketplace.. As I thi...
by Paul Waine
Sat Jul 05, 2025 3:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Catalan News: "Sale of RCD Espanyol for €200m is almost ready. Media reports cite Alan Pace's investment fund Velocity Sports Partnership is behind the acquisition. A little more info in this report in Sport Witness, 2nd July Burnley owner Alan Pace is now finalising €200m club deal Burnley owner A...
by Paul Waine
Fri Jul 04, 2025 12:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Catalan News: "Sale of RCD Espanyol for €200m is almost ready.

Media reports cite Alan Pace's investment fund Velocity Sports Partnership is behind the acquisition.
by Paul Waine
Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Live Aid - 40 years this month
Replies: 50
Views: 3000

Re: Live Aid - 40 years this month

Watched Live Aid on tv. Just for One Day musical is worth seeing if you get the chance.
by Paul Waine
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Goalkeeper Weiβ joins the Clarets
Replies: 43
Views: 3888

Re: ARTICLE: Goalkeeper Weiβ joins the Clarets

I could have told you some differences between English and German football as a kid just from having watched a bit of both. It's not a particularly complicated or controversial question for a professional footballer to have to contend with, although I appreciate he's not answering in his native lan...
by Paul Waine
Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Goalkeeper Weiβ joins the Clarets
Replies: 43
Views: 3888

Re: ARTICLE: Goalkeeper Weiβ joins the Clarets

Agreed. It basically consists of: How excited are you to be here? How excited are you about the Premier League? How excited are you about playing for Scott Parker? How excited were you to make your professional debut? How excited are you about playing with the current squad? Just off the top of my ...
by Paul Waine
Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

All the years that Burnley have been successful when I've been a supporter (mid-1960s onwards) I've been aware that BFC is a feeder club to clubs that can pay higher wages to Burnley's better players. I'm sure we are all aware of this, even though we may not apply the "feeder club" description to th...
by Paul Waine
Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Employee ownership trust
Replies: 11
Views: 1284

Re: Employee ownership trust

In what respect will it change do you think? Are the shares an equal split for all the employees or are those higher up given more of the split? I have a meeting with an independent accounting company in July to get the ball rolling at my place but could do with knowing what questions to ask beyond...
by Paul Waine
Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

MODs: Can we merge this thread with the Bloomberg article. They are both about the same subject, ALK raising $X millions to buy Espanyol.
by Paul Waine
Sat Jun 21, 2025 3:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bloomberg article
Replies: 22
Views: 2888

Re: Bloomberg article

MODs: Suggest this thread is merged with Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol? thread.
by Paul Waine
Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bloomberg article
Replies: 22
Views: 2888

Re: Bloomberg article

Thanks but shouldn’t they have lined up investors with £110m first and maybe even more to help pay back loans they charge to BFC accounts? If the ALK investors feel that that is what needs to happen it would very likely happen. On the other hand, it's probably not the best way to allocate new inves...
by Paul Waine
Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bloomberg article
Replies: 22
Views: 2888

Re: Bloomberg article

Spike wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:36 pm
The Loan Arranger rides again
The loan arranger is going nowhere. ALK is seeking new equity investors. This is good for BFC. New investors will be investors in ALK and benefit from success and opportunities of both BFC and Espanyol.

UTC
by Paul Waine
Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bloomberg article
Replies: 22
Views: 2888

Re: Bloomberg article

Corway wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:34 pm
If they use our clubs assets as security for any loan and we get relegated we could be stuffed.
ALK is seeking new equity investors, not adding to loans. Spanish law does allow leveraged purchases - according to reports - so, this is not about more borrowing.
by Paul Waine
Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bloomberg article
Replies: 22
Views: 2888

Re: Bloomberg article

Guessing this is just to buy Espanyol so no benefit for us, unfortunately. Benefit to BFC is that ALK investor base will be larger. Hard to say how much larger because we don't know how much has already been paid into ALK by investors. Investors will be attracted by opportunities/successes of both ...
by Paul Waine
Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bloomberg article
Replies: 22
Views: 2888

Re: Bloomberg article

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:56 pm
not being funny, but what do they think they can achieve with only 150 million
It's roughly the amount needed to buy Espanyol.
by Paul Waine
Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

aggi wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:30 am
The main thing I've taken from this is that Espanyol are owned by Rastar which is one of the biggest toy car manufacturers in the world. Seems very random.
I'm guessing when Rastar bought Espanyol, 2015/16, there were lots of Chinese firms buying football clubs in Europe.
by Paul Waine
Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37085

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Tiempos emocionantes - as Trent Alexander-Arnold might say.
by Paul Waine
Thu May 22, 2025 9:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cheers, Norm
Replies: 17
Views: 2180

Re: Cheers, Norm

Loved that show and he was a major reason why it felt lovely when you watched it. I always wanted to pop in for a beer with Norm. I first visited Boston getting on 30 years ago. Visited the "Cheers" bar - really just the steps leading down to the entrance door - for a beer. Bought the Cheers t-shir...
by Paul Waine
Thu May 22, 2025 4:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Walking Football thread
Replies: 47
Views: 2921

Re: The Walking Football thread

Do you still get rapid wingers in walking football? There are always a few who move around quicker than others. A good ref will always call them out - a free kick to the opposition for "not walking." Many competitions have the rule that 4 "not walking" offences by a team results in a penalty being ...
by Paul Waine
Wed May 21, 2025 7:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Walking Football thread
Replies: 47
Views: 2921

Re: The Walking Football thread

The bar (which also has coffee) and, possibly, some food will be open at Coleshill on the 16th. I haven't had fixtures for my 65s yet but I suspect we will be in the morning games. 65s provisional times: 12:30 to 13:55. Presentation 14:15. As I said schedule marked as all times provisional "and may...
by Paul Waine
Wed May 21, 2025 5:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Walking Football thread
Replies: 47
Views: 2921

Re: The Walking Football thread

It was good to see you. Glad I had my Burnley shirt on so you could recognise me ;) . Shame that we both lost in the quarter-finals, but those 10 minute games were awful. I've never been to a tournament with games less than 15 minutes before, most seem to be 2x12 minutes or 1x20. And I expected far...
by Paul Waine
Tue May 20, 2025 12:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Walking Football thread
Replies: 47
Views: 2921

Re: The Walking Football thread

Yes, I'll be there. That is our 'home' league venue where we play matches every fortnight on Wednesday lunchtime. Very accessible from J4 of the M6. Last year I only had 3 weeks before the Redditch national finals so I only chose players I knew! This year I have already held my 1st trial session an...
by Paul Waine
Sat May 17, 2025 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Goodison
Replies: 36
Views: 3438

Re: Goodison

That's exactly what I mean. Modernity over tradition. However, football has to move forward, but it's not necessarily a good thing to become a commercial beast rather than an institution, which no new stadium will ever become. We all grow older. How many now remember the maximum wage? In a few year...
by Paul Waine
Sat May 17, 2025 4:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Hill Dickinson Stadium
Replies: 35
Views: 3494

Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

What’s the first and second worth, our resident Evertonian? Not that it really matters, going from the famous Goodison Park to a shiny bowl and renaming it after a tiny law firm is grim whatever pounds it’s bringing in. Hi New, Hill Dickinson is not a tiny law firm. 200 partners, 1,000 staff. As al...
by Paul Waine
Sat May 17, 2025 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Hi Paul I think it was Wittgenstein who said that language is understood in the context it is used and everyone on here knows what is meant by firesale. Hi Pete, did you notice that there are 3 other posts on this page of this thread where the posters have said many of the posters on here who use t...
by Paul Waine
Fri May 16, 2025 7:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

CP - I may have asked this before and apologies if I’ve forgotten your response, but did you ever track the £170m+ back through MG and JB’s company accounts? I.e. are we certain all monies that left the club and now owed back to the club reached their respective companies? That's an interesting que...
by Paul Waine
Fri May 16, 2025 7:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I think I must have been away when these came out and they have completely passed me by. As predicted everything is still pretty much going in the wrong direction. The wage bill is staggering given it took us several years to get to that level under Dyche. Even if you blame PL inflation that in its...
by Paul Waine
Fri May 16, 2025 7:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Without the context I have no idea whether he's suggesting the guy that owns Burnley (and let's be honest, if he's referring to "the guy that owns Burnley" it's pretty clear he has little idea of the ownership structure) hasn't got money or prefers not to invest it. I know you're one of those that ...
by Paul Waine
Fri May 16, 2025 4:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

The comments don't show up for me but that's a very vague comment to support "ALK have plenty of money." Particularly as one of the answers to that question is "the guy that owns Burnley hasn’t got money" Given that he was presenting Tresor as a Championship signing with none of the nuance of him b...
by Paul Waine
Fri May 16, 2025 2:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

aggi wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 2:34 pm
I can't see anything about ALK on that link.
Martin Samuel typed "You think the guy that owns Burnley hasn’t got money..." in the comments.

Yes, he didn't mention ALK. See my reply to Big Vinny K.
by Paul Waine
Fri May 16, 2025 2:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

With all due respect Paul how on earth would Martin Samuel have a clue whether ALK have plenty of money ? Tbh I cannot imagine that he would have a clue who or what ALK are or where to start on our ownership structure. And even on the small chance he is correct having lots of money and making that ...
by Paul Waine
Fri May 16, 2025 2:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Really? Any link to that? Martin Samuel's comment was "You think the guy that owns Burnley hasn’t got money; or that he prefers not to invest it as Marinakis did?" The article was headed: Relegation clauses are killing hopes of promoted clubs Putting punitive relegation clauses into players’ contra...