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400+ miles - quoted range of 372 so I know I’ll need to charge somewhere, but preferably somewhere cheaper than services. I was considering a top up on the way up and then drain coming home Quite a trek! I’ve had an EV for nearly 3 years and have only had to charge probably a handful of times on th...

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20 months ago I posted this and thought I'd update my current position and understanding on the whole EV discussion. My diesel Honda Civic has now done 165k+ miles and is still getting 60+ mpg however I have begun to have some worrying mechanical issues present recently that have made me reconsider...

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yTib wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 09, 2025 9:34 pm
if that's a penalty i'm a frenchman.

Haha. You must be on a windup?

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Dan Burn hasn’t even come on yet.

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Double punishment.

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yTib wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 09, 2025 9:18 pm
never a red card.

Didn’t appear so on first viewing, but I’m pretty sure Kane was getting a 1v1 shot at goal there so correct decision for me.

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Good night Belgrade.

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Superb player. Still the first name on the team sheet.

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2-0. Another good delivery from James.

It’s all so static though. No movement off the ball, very easy to defend against.

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Christian Garcia opens the scoring on his England debut.

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I sort of agree DA, but here's the bias that I think we might have been missing (bias might = conspiracy theory in this case), is that that offside was VERY close, yet the Lino flagged immediately. Now, I thought they were instructed to let play go on if it was close then VAR could determine the ac...

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I would take a photograph of the ticket on my PC screen with a disposable camera and hope that Max Spielmann can develop the film in time. If you have a Polaroid camera then I guess it could be even simpler, but that kind of fancy technology isn’t for me.

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The technology has been proven to be flawed! Don’t you understand that? Yes, I understand there is a significant margin of error in the technology. What I don't want is for good on-field decisions to be overturned by VAR. Foster was given offside by the AR, the VAR used the technology available to ...

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There is no flaw, it’s simple. Should it go to VAR, that is how I would approach it. The system as it is is massively flawed because of the amount of error in the timeframes based on the frame rates. It’s been discussed on here previously and the error for 100 frames/second can be as much as 10cm d...

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My approach would be simple. Using whichever freeze frame (not cartoon mockup) the VAR officials deem as when the ball was played, without using any lines if they cannot confirm visually that the player is definitely offside within 10 seconds, then it’s onside and be done with it. I always had the ...

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The other confusing scenarios on this contradict. I’m sure the rules say, if Foster hadn’t scored, the linesman should keep his flag down. And we play on! Therefore not offside? Is that correct? Also, if the linesman had kept his flag down. I’m I correct in saying VAR would still have checked the “...

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Roosterbooster wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:08 pm
The red line is where they have drawn the line
The blue line is his armpit

They aren't even close

Basically you nailed it with your mark up, because the area circled in purple is offside.

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The red line is where they have drawn the line The blue line is his armpit They aren't even close You’re misunderstanding the law (I don’t blame you due to the unnecessary ambiguity of the ‘t-shirt line’). The extent of the upper arm with which a player can score, and therefore the part of the body...

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Right, we’ve determined the defenders shirt is ahead of the line, so how is it offside when Lyles shirt, hand and arm is ahead of the line? It's offside because the front of Foster's shoulder is ahead of any point of the defender's body which is considered when offside decisions are determined. I c...

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Why was VAR and this extra tech introduced? What's the margin of error on the cameras etc? I'll tell you why it was (supposedly) not introduced - to rule out perfectly fine goals such as this. Attempting to quantify dynamic sports like this, which isn't played across a gain line of any sort, is rea...

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"I was just following orders" Seriously though - do you think Lyle gained any tangible advantage to score a goal there, from the available data?! No I don't think Foster gained much of an advantage, but that's not really relevant to the point that I'm making. And regardless of whether he gained an ...

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I don't understand that logic at all If the line had been drawn 30 yards in front of Foster then it also wouldn't show any part of the defender in an "offside position". This wouldn't mean Foster is offside. It would, like everyone is saying, just show that the line has been drawn in the wrong plac...

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CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 04, 2025 2:12 pm
The kind of people who think that's offside are the same ones who’d sit like lemons at temporary lights guarding five metres of fresh air at 2 a.m., with not a car in sight.

As in people who don’t make up the law, I guess you’re probably correct.

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But it isn't the same point of the body any more. The reason for this, is that no matter whether intentional or not, if the ball strikes an attackers arm directly before he scores, then the goal will be disallowed. Therefore, the attacker can not be offside for the greyed out part of his arm - henc...

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What people are saying, and this is what I said to you the other day, why is there still a part of the defenders t shirt in colour? Are you saying that part isn’t considered in offsides for defenders, but the same part of the t shirt for Foster is? It’s the exact same part of the body on both. I mi...

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What people are saying, and this is what I said to you the other day, why is there still a part of the defenders t shirt in colour? Are you saying that part isn’t considered in offsides for defenders, but the same part of the t shirt for Foster is? It’s the exact same part of the body on both. I th...

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That updated graphic just confirms what everyone (except Rileybobs) has been saying For the purposes of determining offside, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. The updated graphic doesn't show the the line being drawn through this part of the defender either. Th...

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Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:05 pm
and you can't score with your arm

You can score with your shoulder.

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KRBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:04 pm
The defenders sleeve is literally beyond the line

This is irrelevant because hands and arms (below the 't-shirt line) of players aren't considered when determining offside. I thought this was common knowledge?

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He can’t have been, it was “ incorrect “ the greying out wasn’t done correctly showing both players ahead of the line. However, more worryingly is that there appears to be more than one image generated by the system. Why? Is that dependent on the ball touch, different cameras, the discretion of the...

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According to Dermot Gallagher on ref watch, They showed the wrong still for the offside and he agreed that the one we'd all seen he was onside. They then promised to show the correct one and all we got was a black screen because Sky were having "technical difficulties" and it was never shown. Ive g...

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Foster was offside though…

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I’d love to know exactly what reaction Trafford got from the stands last time we were in the Premier League to justify digs like’fans’ and a toxic fanbase to be used. All I remember is the same kind of groans and murmurings for errors that every other player got when they ballsed up, and if we’re s...

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CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 01, 2025 6:40 pm
Not really, I wouldn't call Worrall a 'physical specimen'.

Well he’s 6ft 4 inch tall and throws his head at everything.

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CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:58 pm
I'd have hoped for a big more than Mengi.

We need an absolute physical specimen (appreciate they aren't easy to come by) to play that central CB position. 6ft3 +, chucks their head onto everything.

That’s Joe Worrall isn’t it?

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Wokingclaret wrote: I was with you until yesterday - would have made no difference. 1st pen, which the ref gave, Burnley would review and, as we saw, it would be overturned. Foster goal, Burnley would review as lino gave offside, and again, on review, goal would not have been allowed. Last penalty,...

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New offside rule. To be offside the attacker must have clear space between himself and the last defender. If any part of his body is level with any part of the defender then he is onside. Much easier to verify. Gives attacker a slight advantage. Makes teams think twice about playing the offside tra...

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Haven't read the whole thread but... Tired of the Premier League. Just three fixtures in. Bored of the same theories and controversies. The money is distasteful but what really distances supporters is the incessant intent to turn the sport into some biased algorithmic virtual reality retrospective ...

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********.. the law on flagging for offside was changed to accommodate VAR. basically the AR guessed Foster might’ve been offside. Let play continue and then flagged. Just so VAR could get involved and see what minuscule fraction it could find “offside” In real football before there was VAR, my gues...

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there's no excuse to not have ex players involved in VAR, even less of an excuse to not turn the ******* thing off. Ex-players aren’t qualified officials though. They don’t know the laws of the game. There may be some ex-players willing to train and complete the required qualifications, but there i...

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There can't be many jobs where you get a paid day off in return for making a big error. With that said though, surely the responsibility for the bad decision is Jones' unless there's an implicit assumption that the ref watching the replay is just a facade and the real decision is made by the VAR? Y...

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It is all about opinions I watched the whole game on Sky after it had finished The referee/ vAR got all the big decisions correct in my opinion Certainly not crazy marks like 5 5 5 5 out of 100 He is arguably one of the best referees after Oliver The referee obviously didn’t get all the big decisio...

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burnmark wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:35 am
Why is his shoulder ‘greyed’ out still?

Because the rest of his shoulder is behind the line that has been drawn on the furthest forward part of his shoulder.

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It would but he was clearly guessing (as it was so marginal he should be keeping his flag down) as was the ref when he gave the first half penalty and when he gave the free kick for the first goal. The lino gave another dodgy offside when we were on top to curtail a second half attack and impact mo...

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My two penn’orth and I realise I make some of the same points as other posters: Just watched MOTD 1. Correct to overturn pen. Mount leans into Walker and tries to look like he’s fouled. He did the same at Fulham last week 2. Correct decision for the penalty appeal a few minutes later. Hartman wins ...

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My question in this thread on the image was regarding why any part of the defenders shirt appears in colour, and not greyed out. My understanding was this technology would grey out the entire part of the ‘last possible onside line’. So I was wondering why it cuts through that sleeve of the defender...

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The contention is surely that the very point at which the ball leaves the passer’s foot cannot be accurately captured by camera freeze frame. So in the Foster offside decision where the margin is in millimetres, how can we be certain that the freeze frame image we’ve been shown of a small amount of...

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fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 30, 2025 11:52 pm
I haven't read all the thread, but do you think they got the late penalty right?

Haven’t seen it back yet, but watching live I would say no.

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He’s playing well, he took his two chances very well today and was unlucky with the second. We could do with his hold up play and nuisance-causing to improve, but the early signs this season are promising.

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Leaving aside how shite VAR is, I can’t see a problem with the semi-automated CGI of Foster. The line is taken from Foster’s upper arm - the ridiculously ambiguous ‘t-shirt line’, and shows that part of his body is ahead of the Man U defender’s ’t-shirt line’. By the law of the game it’s offside. It...

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