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- Thu May 02, 2024 11:58 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 114
- Views: 14325
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
It's hard to see a situation that plays out where some points aren't awarded back to Forest. That just seems to be the way this goes.
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Referee confirmed for Newcastle game
- Replies: 15
- Views: 1795
Re: Referee confirmed for Newcastle game
Still regarded as one of, if not the best referee in the division, so on that basis I don’t think we’ve got cause for complaint.
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
Apologies if it came across as constructive and classy.
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric wins Brighton's Goal of the Month
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2099
Re: Muric wins Brighton's Goal of the Month
There was an example of that in the West Ham Liverpool game on Saturday when Soucek’s goal-bound effort touched the keeper before going in. The own goal was “awarded” to Areola. Ah really. Can’t ever recall noticing the goalkeeper being ‘credited’ with the OG in such a situation. At least it remove...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
I think there is a fair argument for saying that any player that trys an overhead kick with their feet head height should be a red car whether the boot the opposition in the head or not. I think players having to think twice about trying an overhead kick in a crowded box would be a good thing. I th...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
Your mum dovetails in.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:38 pmI think the poster you are debating with can pretty much tailor any scenario to dovetail in with a created narrative.
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
Thats not how the law and its interpretation works though. I understand what you want to happen and agree that there could be some nuanced law relating to the keeper punching the ball but as it stands if you said that Onana's challenge endangered the players then had he not punched Amdouni then the...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
If you want that than we'll need a re-write of the rules to make a specific scenario for a keeper punching the ball because as the current rules are written you would have to interpret that the keeper challenging for the ball by trying to punch it is either seen as endangering players safety or usi...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric wins Brighton's Goal of the Month
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2099
Re: Muric wins Brighton's Goal of the Month
Yep he did, but the point is, if it had been a Brighton player that played the ball towards goal, then Muric did exactly what he did, it would be credited to the Brighton player, not a Muric OG. I think it’s probably right that the last player to touch the ball gets credited with the own goal, but ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
No, you haven't understood my argument. I agree that if someone attempts to kick, head, or punch the ball and gets there a fraction late, then it is dangerous. The laws say that if it is done recklessly and with excessive force then it should be a red card. I put what Onana did in the same category...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric wins Brighton's Goal of the Month
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2099
Re: Muric wins Brighton's Goal of the Month
It’s a bit of an odd one, but if a shot is going in and an attacker gets a touch it still goes to the player who touched it last.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:07 pmIt has to be a Berge own goal for me
If a shot is on target and a keeper gets a touch it's never an own goal.
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
But if you jump into a tackle feet off the ground and out of control then you can get the red card regardless of if you make contact with the opposition player. If this interpretation is applied to a keeper punching a ball then every time a keeper attempts to punch a ball in close proximity to othe...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
Unless you want to ban keepers from punching the ball you’ve got to accept that things like that will happen and aren’t sendings off. By its very nature punching the ball away is always likely to be at head height in proximity to an attacking player and is therefore, just by being a legal part of t...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chris Wood
- Replies: 33
- Views: 3294
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
The red card is for excessive force while endangering an opponent. Such as diving in two-footed, the sort of offence that is a foul whether you get the ball or not. Onana went for the ball in the bog standard way that goalkeepers do, so unless the ref thinks that he was aiming for the man, he gets ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
You’d be at it all day pointing out over the course what could & should have happened here & there. It’s gone he stayed on the field & we ended up getting a good draw. The Vitinho handball could have gone against even though it was blasted at point blank it wouldn’t be the first time the wrong end ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Only 1 from 3 will survive !!!
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3568
Re: Only 1 from 3 will survive !!!
A mistake to leave Murillo on the field whilst the sub was preparing. He looks to be carrying a groin injury which makes changing direction v difficult, and Haaland literally turned him inside out.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Only 1 from 3 will survive !!!
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3568
Re: Only 1 from 3 will survive !!!
I can’t see this aging well…Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:50 pmWe need Wood to play every last game for Forest to give us any chance at all of surviving
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
It's no benefit to us had onana been sent off luton or forest won't play United again this season. I've noticed on here some people seem to over analyze the rules & think they know better than the officials (a odd 1 or 2 might do) sometimes things make more sense without an explanation. Like you sa...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
:roll: It all boils down to intent even though intent doesn't have to be the deciding factor. we would be complaining if onana had gone & somebody else went in & saved the penalty the same if he would have saved the penalty. it's not something I'd be complaining about a spot kick was rightly awarde...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Only 1 from 3 will survive !!!
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3568
Re: Only 1 from 3 will survive !!!
Forest aren’t a bad side. They certainly have more premier league quality than the bottom three. It’s hard to see them not beating Sheff Utd, but here’s hoping.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
It's obviously subject to the referees interpretation otherwise he would have had an early bath. The fact that it wasn't interpreted as being intentionally reckless was a factor for him remaining. We don’t know what went through the referee’s head - but if it was anything to do with Obama’s intent ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
A player doesn’t have to intentionally endanger the safety of an opponent for it to be a red card offence.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:25 pmIf the intents there & it's malicious maybe. That was just a calamity cock up.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Only 1 from 3 will survive !!!
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3568
Re: Only 1 from 3 will survive !!!
Strangely, I think we will be safe before the Forest match. Newcastle and Spurs look vulnerable to attacking football, and I believe all the bad luck and VAR decisions we have had this season will even out over the next two matches. We will get 6 points and the others 0. I agree with the first word...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Spurs v Arsenal
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1446
Re: Spurs v Arsenal
No idea how he missed that.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Spurs v Arsenal
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1446
Re: Spurs v Arsenal
Pen to spurs. Gonna be an interesting end to this game.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Spurs v Arsenal
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1446
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Spurs v Arsenal
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1446
Re: Spurs v Arsenal
1-3, gifted by Raya. Could get interesting.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Onana's assault
- Replies: 64
- Views: 4145
Re: Onana's assault
A keeper punching a player when (however incompetently) trying to punch the ball is a bit different to a punch anywhere else on the pitch. There’s definitely an argument that a keeper going to punch the ball and landing one flat in a player’s face is endangering the safety of an opponent though, wh...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Spurs v Arsenal
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1446
Re: Spurs v Arsenal
Arsenal 20 points clear of Spurs, 1st winning 3-0 away at the 5th placed team Best league ? Looks more like Rangers and Celtic in the Scottish Prem Not sure about that. At a quick glance the gap between 1st and 5th in all other major European leagues is larger than 20 points and 35 points in the Sc...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:07 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tragedy chanting
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4410
Re: Tragedy chanting
Probably the case, but no idea why this would make him a Man Utd fan. Anyway, not really relevant to the discussion.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:05 amObviously someone has bought him a ticket using somebody else's Clarets number.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tragedy chanting
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4410
Re: Tragedy chanting
How would it be easier for a young Utd fan to get a ticket in the away end than a young Burnley fan?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:00 amHe's obviously a Utd fan, he's not even smiling when we have just scored.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tragedy chanting
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4410
Re: Tragedy chanting
Why would a young Burnley fan not be able to get a ticket?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:54 amHow's that young lad in front of him got a ticket in such a small allocation?
Obviously a UTD fan, not celebrating, looks well peed off.
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tragedy chanting
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4410
Re: Tragedy chanting
This naughty boy won’t be attending a Burnley game again. Hope it was worth it.
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Myth Buster @ Old Trafford
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2257
Re: Myth Buster @ Old Trafford
I'd have liked to have seen Casermiro and Garnacho both booked for BLATANT dives, but aside from that - thought the ref had a good game. This really needs to be clamped down on - VAR actively encourages diving. Since the introduction of VAR, dives are no longer punished with a yellow card. This giv...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Momentum = Great Escape
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2832
Re: Momentum = Great Escape
I had written us off months ago as we looked hopeless and weren’t learning from mistakes. The team is clicking and whilst the mistakes are still there at both ends of the pitch, the overall performances are at the level we need to compete at this level. Before today I thought 7 more points would be ...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 14760
Re: Man Utd (a)
I don’t get why he would drop Taylor? I would expect him to deal with Antony fairly comfortably. I suppose you could say that this is an attacking approach though as Vitinho will get forward so perhaps this is a ploy to take advantage of some of Man Utd’s more passive players (Rashford’s absence may...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: QPR v Leeds
- Replies: 59
- Views: 3494
Re: QPR v Leeds
QPR have been pretty impressive
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: QPR v Leeds
- Replies: 59
- Views: 3494
Re: QPR v Leeds
Har har
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: League 2 relegation - rules help please
- Replies: 7
- Views: 780
Re: League 2 relegation - rules help please
Games won, so Sutton would be relegated.
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 14760
Re: Man Utd (a)
On paper I think Luton have the easiest fixtures by far. Wolves and West Ham away along with Everton and Fulham at home who will probably all be safe and have nothing to play for. It doesn't necessarily mean that Luton will stay up but I would rather have their fixtures than ours or Forest's As wou...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 14760
Re: Man Utd (a)
Luton win 2 or 3 games and it wont matter what we do. Everyone is mentioning Forest when no-one his discussed Luton, it's 2 from 3, Burnley, Luton and Forest Only because we have absolutely no control over Luton, whereas we face Forest on the last day of the season so only have to gain a point more...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 14760
Re: Man Utd (a)
draws aren't good enough at the minute, a win would be huge for confidence going into the last 3, I would probably start believing it was possible which wont be good for my health. I expect it will be the same side and I'm going for a 2v1 with Foster scoring both Not sure about that. I would expect...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:01 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: work for the best club in England
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2396
Re: work for the best club in England
SMManager.jpg How's about this for an unpaid job! My team were the only team to take a point off them this season in the Birmingham County League's over 63s (14 games) as they romped to the title. They are a bl**dy good team, I called them the Solihull Galacticos as they formed a new team with the ...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 199
- Views: 15511
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
This is suspicious. Looks like Atwell is trying a bit too hard to prove that he’s not corrupt, just really bad at his job.clarethomer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:52 amhttps://x.com/nffc_epl/status/178324631 ... 7GxGzXZPSg
I’ve no idea why this goal was disallowed- Atwell involved again for this.
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonights Football
- Replies: 116
- Views: 5606
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonights Football
- Replies: 116
- Views: 5606
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonights Football
- Replies: 116
- Views: 5606
Re: Tonights Football
Nunez couldn’t find the back of the net if he was inside a net with a big sign saying ‘back of the net’ and a back of the net GPS tracker.
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League refs and the teams they support
- Replies: 11
- Views: 934
Re: Premier League refs and the teams they support
Forest did have a point in their statement about refs reffing teams who are contextual rivals with those they support. For example, if I was to be a biased ref, I’d be more likely to show that bias for or against a team that directly impacted the success of Burnley than Blackburn Rovers.
- Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Top Scorer
- Replies: 4
- Views: 672
Re: Top Scorer
JBL averages about a goal every other game based on minutes played. He’s made a good contribution.