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by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cullen’s goal VAR check
Replies: 69
Views: 4553

Re: Cullen’s goal VAR check

I'd certainly prefer that to the current system. But it's a sensible proposal.

People only hate VAR because it's been implemented atrociously but it doesn't have to be that way. It can be so much better.
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: oldie squad photo help needed
Replies: 54
Views: 1675

Re: oldie squad photo help needed

Bottom photo with white kit matches 1936-40
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: oldie squad photo help needed
Replies: 54
Views: 1675

Re: oldie squad photo help needed

Top photo compared to "historic kits" site suggest 1946-51.

There are a number of variants in the shirts and socks suggesting later than 46 at a minimum.
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cullen’s goal VAR check
Replies: 69
Views: 4553

Re: Cullen’s goal VAR check

Where do we get all the extra referees from? For clarity, as the VAR panel are sitting in a sealed off room, they can make decisions on a number of matches. Maybe even covering a number of leagues? They're only waiting for a referral. Referrals are only going to take a couple of minutes max. They c...
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cullen’s goal VAR check
Replies: 69
Views: 4553

Re: Cullen’s goal VAR check

dsr wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:03 pm
And far better, "That might have been a penalty but X player was clearly making a meal of it so no penalty. Play on."
That's my instinctive temptation too but players would soon stop exaggerating if fouls were given quickly and correctly, which they would be if such a system were employed.
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 1:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cullen’s goal VAR check
Replies: 69
Views: 4553

Re: Cullen’s goal VAR check

And also they could make Saturday evening kickoffs 6 pm instead of 5.30 so the other matches could finish before the next one starts. Where do we get all the extra referees from? I'm sure the PL has enough money to fund four people watching a game of football. But in case things are tight then here...
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cullen’s goal VAR check
Replies: 69
Views: 4553

Re: Cullen’s goal VAR check

And finally-finally the referees all wear microphones for transparency. There's no shame in the onfield ref saying over the mic to the VAR-referring official, "I didnt see that properly. Should we refer it?" or "That might have been a penalty but X player was also clearly making a meal out of it so ...
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cullen’s goal VAR check
Replies: 69
Views: 4553

Re: Cullen’s goal VAR check

Oh, and finally - we get rid of the farce that is referees trotting over to watch TV screens.
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cullen’s goal VAR check
Replies: 69
Views: 4553

Re: Cullen’s goal VAR check

Another thing: The scoreboard announces the panel's decision. Eg. Penalty - 2 No penalty - 2 Decision: Panel tied so onfield decision stands The crowd go "ohhhh" as they know it was a tight call. We can still get all worked up.about but we'll know at least that the decision was reached with integrit...
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cullen’s goal VAR check
Replies: 69
Views: 4553

Re: Cullen’s goal VAR check

I don't think VAR itself is the problem. It's the incompetent people that operate it. True, but it's not even primarily a personnel problem. It's how they've set it up. It's almost as if they've deliberately set it up to "rubber stamp" bad decisions instead of doing their best to get things right. ...
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland
Replies: 47
Views: 2080

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland

Quite a diatribe Rowls... (Quote snipped for brevity) Thank you Ashington :D :lol: Yes, as you say much of it has been prevalent for decades now. The omni-cheating rolls on! The only slight issue I take with your post is the culpability of referees. I grant that we can't hold them individually resp...
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 10:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland
Replies: 47
Views: 2080

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland

Not sure I've ever taken issue with them before but your explanation doesn't justify it at all. I know it's opinion, but that mark is a nonsense for me, that's the sort of mark you would give a shocker of a referee. I can see no justification for suggesting he didn't have control. That's all fair e...
by Rowls
Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland
Replies: 47
Views: 2080

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland

Have to say I think your 9 out of 25 for control has to be a joke. As for the disallowed goal, and I believe it could have gone either way, how quickly do you want him to blow? The best referees always give themselves time, the worst referees blow too quickly. Hello CT You always take issue with my...
by Rowls
Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Away Pubs - Saturday
Replies: 25
Views: 3494

Re: Away Pubs - Saturday

Plenty of Sundeland fans walking around in tops in th town centre yesterday and not a whiff of aggro.

Was very good to see.

Obviously just my personal experience but seems to be bourne out by comments above.
by Rowls
Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hountondji
Replies: 9
Views: 2704

Re: Hountondji

Pleased for the lad.

If we end up back in the Champ, he could maybe do a job for us.

People were talking about the young lad like he was Ian Flipping Helliwell and it just wasn't on.
by Rowls
Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland
Replies: 47
Views: 2080

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland

jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:30 pm
8 out of 25?
Them's the rules! :lol:
by Rowls
Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland
Replies: 47
Views: 2080

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland

Rowls wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:01 pm
He deliberately using VAR to back him up.
Safe in the knowledge his decision will be rubber stamped either way.
by Rowls
Sat Aug 23, 2025 9:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland
Replies: 47
Views: 2080

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Salisbury v Sunderland

A. 15 B. 20 C. 15 D. 9 Typical of modern refereeing. I can't fathom the high marks - the players ran the show. There was no authority on display at all. Haven't seen the goal back but thought he got it wrong. I also think he fudged the decision completely. If he thought it was a foul he should have ...
by Rowls
Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New PA system
Replies: 24
Views: 1792

Re: New PA system

Just because we now have a PA system capable of broadcasting clear messages does not make the club obliged to blast fans with overly loud music. Just because you *can* do something doesn't mean you have. Also, nobody at all complained, "the music isn't loud enough." We all said, "you can't hear what...
by Rowls
Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ekdal performance
Replies: 54
Views: 5119

Re: Ekdal performance

Didn't put a foot wrong.

Last week he was caught out at a higher level. Today he did all the basics and was solid. MOM performance.
by Rowls
Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Sunderland - Player Ratings
Replies: 101
Views: 6685

Re: Burnley v Sunderland - Player Ratings

Dubrovnik 7
Walker 7
Ekdal 8
Steve 8
Hartman 7
Brun Larsen 6
Cullen 8
Ugochukwa 7
Anthony 8
Hannibal 8
Foster 8

Laurent 8
Sonne 7
by Rowls
Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bronwhill confirms departure
Replies: 204
Views: 20337

Re: Bronwhill confirms departure

Odd one, isn't it?

Surely he's received offers but why hasn't he signed for anyone?
by Rowls
Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keirby Planning Application
Replies: 69
Views: 4172

Re: Keirby Planning Application

surely anything is better than nothing, barring demolition. That's true. The Kierby will have looked polished when it was brand new and it will look polished again when it's re-clad. However it's kicking the can down the road. We'll be in the same position in 10-20 years time. The cycle will contin...
by Rowls
Fri Aug 22, 2025 3:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keirby Planning Application
Replies: 69
Views: 4172

Re: Keirby Planning Application

A lot of negativity on here ... Looks 1000% better than it does now I’m pleased it will be re-clad. Somebody else called it a polished turd, which is precisely what it will be. When the fundamental design is so awful, a polished turd is the best the building can ever hope to be. It’s a shame the ow...
by Rowls
Fri Aug 22, 2025 2:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keirby Planning Application
Replies: 69
Views: 4172

Re: Keirby Planning Application

theboydonegood wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 1:48 pm
Its a miracle the whole complex hasnt burnt to the ground in the last 20 years. Wouldnt put any money on it not burning down in the next 12 months though.

Tbdg
If it had a wooden frame it’s probably already have happened.

Sadly, it looks like it has formidable foundations.
by Rowls
Fri Aug 22, 2025 2:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keirby Planning Application
Replies: 69
Views: 4172

Re: Keirby Planning Application

It will book up no problem, no decent hotel in the town centre and very few in the town at all. Must be structurally sound to make a massive renovation cheaper than a rebuild but if that’s the case then fair play it will be a welcome addition. The structural integrity of the concrete beams has neve...
by Rowls
Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spuds v Super Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 686
Views: 14943

Re: Spuds v Super Clarets Match Thread

That's a very promising display after the first 10 minutes.
by Rowls
Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spuds v Super Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 686
Views: 14943

Re: Spuds v Super Clarets Match Thread

RetroClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 16, 2025 3:49 pm
Was never getting that ball. No pen
Not getting the ball = Not relevant

It's a clear penalty.
by Rowls
Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Loan deal for Adewumi
Replies: 34
Views: 2615

Re: ARTICLE: Loan deal for Adewumi

Are we becoming a mini Chelsea ? Looks that way to me. Buying up players surplus to requirements and holding onto them in case they come good. Sometimes buying players for the sake of it. Then loaning them out for apparent accounting. Some of those we're shipping out look like they would have walke...
by Rowls
Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Loan deal for Adewumi
Replies: 34
Views: 2615

Re: ARTICLE: Loan deal for Adewumi

Good luck to him.
by Rowls
Thu Aug 14, 2025 9:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A week on an NHS Ward
Replies: 110
Views: 4864

Re: A week on an NHS Ward

Sounds about par for the course.

Thoughts? I don't think it's something we'd be allowed to discuss on here. Not for long at any rate.

Hope youre on the mend, being looked after and as well as can be. Take care.
by Rowls
Wed Aug 13, 2025 3:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What is wrong with some people?
Replies: 32
Views: 2931

Re: What is wrong with some people?

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 12:52 pm
Who don't like mashed Avocado on Sourdough Toast topped with a poached Egg 😉
I nearly choked on my smashed avocado reading this?

What's wrong with smashed avocado on sourdough bread with poached egg?

Apart from the obvious that you neglected to mention the hollandaise.
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight's Football
Replies: 81
Views: 4884

Re: Tonight's Football

Presume so, Vegas. He's not even on the bench.

Tommy McDermot is on the bench for Shrewsbury.
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tonight's Football
Replies: 81
Views: 4884

Re: Tonight's Football

Hahahahahaha just tuned in

What larks,
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ADHD / Neurodiversity
Replies: 120
Views: 3916

Re: ADHD / Neurodiversity

They're certainly well connected, these Seed Talk people.
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ADHD / Neurodiversity
Replies: 120
Views: 3916

Re: ADHD / Neurodiversity

More news about the book promotion talk! The book is personally approved and recommended by Tom Watson. What does Tom Watson have to say to help promote the book? Look no further: Essential reading for anyone looking to understand and live well with ADHD He's even got his name on the front cover. "W...
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hot Sauce
Replies: 33
Views: 1860

Re: Hot Sauce

Louisiana Hot Sauce It's a fermented hot sauce akin to the more famous Tabasco Sauce but Louisiana has a far, far superior flavour profile and isn't quite as hot. I tried it just the once in America and now buy it in from Amazon. If you're looking for actual flavour to accompany the heat, you reall...
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 7:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hot Sauce
Replies: 33
Views: 1860

Re: Hot Sauce

Louisiana Hot Sauce It's a fermented hot sauce akin to the more famous Tabasco Sauce but Louisiana has a far, far superior flavour profile and isn't quite as hot. I tried it just the once in America and now buy it in from Amazon. If you're looking for actual flavour to accompany the heat, you really...
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor
Replies: 195
Views: 22019

Re: Tresor

I've posted words to these effects before but it would just be really nice if Mike Tresor somehow came good for us and we saw the player with those unbelievable stats in the Blegian League.
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ADHD / Neurodiversity
Replies: 120
Views: 3916

Re: ADHD / Neurodiversity

...we have got from someone sharing an event for awareness about a group with protected characteristics under the Equality Act and people candidly sharing their own personal situations, to an unsolicited point of view(s) about the pathology of neurodiverse conditions and Big Pharma. Hi Massiveflood...
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ADHD / Neurodiversity
Replies: 120
Views: 3916

Re: ADHD / Neurodiversity

Oh, and if the child receives the middle or higher rate of the 'Care Component' of Child DLA for their ADHD then being classed as a the child's carer and claiming the Carer's Allowance benefit can become the primary cause to claim Universal Credit, meaning the adult with caring responsibilities can ...
by Rowls
Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ADHD / Neurodiversity
Replies: 120
Views: 3916

Re: ADHD / Neurodiversity

Our experience of navigating the school system and SEN provision for our daughter has been a never ending carousel of let downs and agonising waits thanks to a completely underfunded and overstretched county council. Absolutely nothing to do with claiming benefits, and everything to do with getting...
by Rowls
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Booing the Jota minutes' silence
Replies: 120
Views: 6397

Re: Booing the Jota minutes' silence

Spijed wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:37 pm
And yet England fans ALWAYS boo the Scottish and Welsh national anthem, for example.

Where's the condemnation when that happens.
There’s always lots of condemnation whenever knuckle draggers boo a national anthem.
by Rowls
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Booing the Jota minutes' silence
Replies: 120
Views: 6397

Re: Booing the Jota minutes' silence

I don't want to turn this into a debate about the monarchy (I'm a Republican), but using terms like "heirs" and "thrones" in the 21st Century is palpably absurd. Yes there's no need for us to go there. We know it'd get the thread pulled. Besides, I'm sure you'd just love having a political head of ...
by Rowls
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Booing the Jota minutes' silence
Replies: 120
Views: 6397

Re: Booing the Jota minutes' silence

I'd have it piped into anfield every game by royal prerogative so they can show themselves up every home game.
by Rowls
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Booing the Jota minutes' silence
Replies: 120
Views: 6397

Re: Booing the Jota minutes' silence

You're right, I've never understood why people behave like lickspittles to a family they don't know or in most cases have never met. It's not about the individual family, it's about what they represent in their official role - head of state and heirs to the throne. Same reason we use titles like 'P...
by Rowls
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Booing the Jota minutes' silence
Replies: 120
Views: 6397

Re: Booing the Jota minutes' silence

You just cannot compare the two things. Booing the National Anthem was disrespectful. Booing the three minutes silence for a young footballer who had died was disgusting. The booing of the silence is obviously reprehensible. But you yourself have compared the two acts in your own post. Two wrongs d...
by Rowls
Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Someones been naughty!
Replies: 6
Views: 1403

Re: Someones been naughty!

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:23 pm
Come on, Rowls! Spill the beans. What did you write?
I moved the following mugs:

C K I D

Not necessarily in that order. I was bored waiting for family. Fear I may have inspired some much higher level naughtiness.
by Rowls
Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Someones been naughty!
Replies: 6
Views: 1403

Re: Someones been naughty!

I may have moved a few around yesterday but I'm not responsible for that.
by Rowls
Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Back 3 or 4
Replies: 10
Views: 812

Re: Back 3 or 4

It's going to be more like a back 5.