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by forzagranata
Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37057

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Chester Perry wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:22 pm
They can now sell up and exit at any point in the future without any public announcement
Exactly - which is something that, as you suggest, is a welcome face-saving opportunity in Chinese business culture.
by forzagranata
Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37057

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

To my mind this appears to be a part of a staged, quiet 'face-saving' withdrawal from European football that we have seen with almost all the Chinese entrants into the European game Certainly much more likely to be this than the Chinese becoming significant players at Burnley. After all, they are s...
by forzagranata
Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37057

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

No it would leave us in a very similar situation to Palace/Lyon should Burnley and Espanyol both qualify for the Europa League.

However, that's not a problem we are likely to face for a while I would imagine......
by forzagranata
Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37057

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

In short - Velocity (Pace etc) are taking over Espanyol. Espanyol's current owners RASTAR will become minority investors in Velocity Sport as part of the deal. In other words, as part of the deal, Espanyol's current owners become minority owners in Burnley FC. There are, of course, a number of minor...
by forzagranata
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Infantino. . . .
Replies: 32
Views: 2435

Re: Infantino. . . .

Brazil want to host the 2029 tournament and Spain are interested too. Its not going anywhere even if English and European fans aren't interested that much. There is too much football overall - but its not FIFA producing most of it. UEFA expanded the Champions League group stage and added Europa Leag...
by forzagranata
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Infantino. . . .
Replies: 32
Views: 2435

Re: Infantino. . . .

Change it to Europe next time, might get more of an interest. You reckon? Average attendance has been 38,000 per game - that's for the entire tournament, including group stage games with Asian and African teams. You reckon you'd get that in Europe? Games like Flamengo v Al Ahly. There were 60,000 c...
by forzagranata
Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End - Sean Dyche special - tomorrow
Replies: 83
Views: 5797

Re: From the Bee Hole End - Sean Dyche special - tomorrow

Bit of reaction to the Dyche pod in the latest episode of From the Bee Hole End.

Also chat on JBL's return, Trafford's future, Pies on the Turf and the rumours about changes to the Cricket Field Stand.

Link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igIDGme5pyI
by forzagranata
Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End - Sean Dyche special - tomorrow
Replies: 83
Views: 5797

Re: From the Bee Hole End - Sean Dyche special - tomorrow

I dont fancy your chances, but good luck 👍 It's not a priority. Frankly, most 'official' interviews are pretty boring with the players/coaches rarely venturing 'off message'. Which is why it is usually more enjoyable to talk to former players/coaches who have less reason to be guarded in their answ...
by forzagranata
Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End - Sean Dyche special - tomorrow
Replies: 83
Views: 5797

Re: From the Bee Hole End - Sean Dyche special - tomorrow

Good pod, but he’s done that many since he left us that I’m not sure he said anything new. He’s clearly got a massive ego, but most successful managers have. That level of self belief is what helps make them great. It’s a shame that none of the Burnley podcasts seem to have any chance of getting an...
by forzagranata
Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End - Sean Dyche special - tomorrow
Replies: 83
Views: 5797

Re: From the Bee Hole End - Sean Dyche special - tomorrow

The pod is out now - on all audio platforms. You Tube link below:

https://youtu.be/Hcn8ZUqdE6w?si=yDY0ohOsHCwvCQCt
by forzagranata
Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we had investment?
Replies: 51
Views: 5113

Re: Have we had investment?

But the structure almost certainly wouldn't be Burnley FC owning Espanyol.

ALK/Velocity may own both clubs in some form or another with similar or (slightly different) ownership structures but I would be amazed if the owners of Espanyol were Burnley FC, in fact I don't think that is even possible.
by forzagranata
Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5365
Views: 636597

Re: Summer transfer window

Didn't Esteve intimate recently how much he loves the club, how much they have done for him and he will be playing for us next season, or words very much to that affect? This may all be very true and I don't doubt he really does have a lot of affection for the club - but if Spurs make an acceptable...
by forzagranata
Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37057

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Pace was up-front about family offices being part of ALK's investment strategy right from the outset. The phrasing of the term 'family office' sounds a little weird in a British context but essentially we are basically talking about people/families who might want to invest in a football club but don...
by forzagranata
Sun Jul 06, 2025 5:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37057

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I tend to think that people who think Private Equity companies are going to behave like Russian Oligarchs, brand washing Middle Eastern states or billionaire fan owners like Tony Bloom are going to be disappointed. Indeed. But likewise, those who think PE investors are simply interested in buying a...
by forzagranata
Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37057

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

The new sports investment fund is a joint venture between Checketts and the Cynosure Group. Here is a bit on that group from their own mouths: "The Cynosure Group is an innovative private investment firm founded in 2013 by senior investment professionals from some of the country’s leading asset mana...
by forzagranata
Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

New episode out now - discussing the Kyle Walker signing and the new kit...on all pod platforms and the You Tube link below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PhcrllXALE
by forzagranata
Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5365
Views: 636597

Re: Summer transfer window

AlargeClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:43 pm
Like it or not we’ll probs need at least 2 quality older ( not as old as KW) “ off the peg” prem players who won’t have sell on value to guide us through this season . Brownhill’s replacement perhaps ?
Gundogan?
by forzagranata
Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Raducanu
Replies: 48
Views: 6787

Re: Raducanu

The idea that just because she has signed these sponsorship and endorsement deals that she isn't 'focused' on her game is nonsense. Its a media narrative that taps into people's jealousies but its not backed up by much evidence.
by forzagranata
Sun May 18, 2025 4:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brian Glanville RIP ...
Replies: 12
Views: 2118

Re: Brian Glanville RIP ...

Jim Lawton and David Lacey would be others of a similar vintage to be of the top drawer. I think those 4 would be about the top echelon. Very different era - much more concerned with the game itself, and much less concerned by the off field circus. Yes - many would put Patrick Barclay in a top five...
by forzagranata
Sun May 18, 2025 4:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brian Glanville RIP ...
Replies: 12
Views: 2118

Re: Brian Glanville RIP ...

A friend of mine reminded me he also wrote for World Soccer. It used to be a truly excellent magazine which I discovered in 1978 just before the World Cup. It was a "milestone" moment in my football side of life. The British football media was, by and large, bereft of coverage of foreign football (...
by forzagranata
Sat May 17, 2025 3:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche on the Overlap
Replies: 90
Views: 6856

Re: Dyche on the Overlap

I forgot just how much of a media trained politician he is. 5 minutes of slagging Everton off for changing the goalposts. Scholes asks him if he thinks Everton deceived him. " oh no I don't think so necessarily " As for him getting stick for signing Heaton, Arfield and Pope. Heaton was famous for h...
by forzagranata
Sat May 17, 2025 3:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brian Glanville RIP ...
Replies: 12
Views: 2118

Re: Brian Glanville RIP ...

The first British journalist to take a serious interest in foreign football and use words I had to look up in the dictionary. McIlvanney might well have been the better writer though. RIP You are right to point out those two as the outstanding football writers. I'd say Glanville was the finest writ...
by forzagranata
Sun May 04, 2025 2:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would you take Jamie Vardy next season;
Replies: 50
Views: 3710

Re: Would you take Jamie Vardy next season;

If he scores three winning goals - that's six points that could be the difference between staying up and going down.

And that difference is worth millions.
by forzagranata
Sat May 03, 2025 7:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pitch Invasion
Replies: 255
Views: 23533

Re: Pitch Invasion

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat May 03, 2025 6:01 pm
The games gone. Sad scenes. How dare people celebrate.
Fear not:

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by forzagranata
Sat May 03, 2025 5:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pitch Invasion
Replies: 255
Views: 23533

Re: Pitch Invasion

Ashton Gate today

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by forzagranata
Sat May 03, 2025 4:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

I listen to the pod mate! I enjoy it. I don't understand bringing it back up, but whatever. Some people still seem to think that the only other possible outcomes in those 0-0s were Burnley wins.... football doesn't work like that! No worries! Sorry, you aren't the only person I've an unreasonably s...
by forzagranata
Sat May 03, 2025 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Yep! - SP were laying the defensive framework and gaining cohesion through the squad; if the team was to abandon that during those 'drab draws', chasing wins, abandoning shape, treating them like cup ties, then we wouldn't be where we are right now. It was frustrating then, and it is still frustrat...
by forzagranata
Fri May 02, 2025 12:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

By the way, podcast shows are now also available to watch on You Tube.

https://youtu.be/DB5nWJqly5U?si=iHa6pagkc-rJAQWE
by forzagranata
Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews etc v QPR
Replies: 11
Views: 2060

Re: Post match interviews etc v QPR

Rapid Reaction Pod From the Bee Hole End

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuDkJPYPfX8
by forzagranata
Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pitch Invasion
Replies: 255
Views: 23533

Re: Pitch Invasion

So I presume the club put up a drone to fly above Turf Moor at the final whistle to film an empty field with no scenes of celebration on the pitch?
by forzagranata
Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Cheers. Been nice to see more and more Clarets listening every week.
by forzagranata
Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Promotion episode is out now on all platforms. UTC
by forzagranata
Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ashley Westwood - Charlotte - Eastern Conference
Replies: 12
Views: 2487

Re: Ashley Westwood - Charlotte - Eastern Conference

He's also playing really well - extended his career quite nicely.
by forzagranata
Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Out of synch
Replies: 13
Views: 2390

Re: Out of synch

Anybody else all out of synch this weekend? With us playing yesterday at 3pm it felt like a Saturday and I’ve got it in my head that today is Sunday and the Sheff Utd game is tomorrow Absolutely - we discussed this on the Beehole podcast this week - which normally gets recorded on a Sunday for Mond...
by forzagranata
Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Thought the post Preston Cup episode was a bit of an echo chamber. Someone (just to be Devil’s Advocate) has to at least point out that it’s a pretty pointless competition, that we still would have been hard pressed to beat a good Prem side in the 1/4’s and is a distraction for our run in. Spark so...
by forzagranata
Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Who do you reckon the fart culprit at 11:13 was? Sounds horrendous in headphones :lol: :lol: :lol: Ah this was missed in our new, improve audio edit. I could spend half an hour searching the individual files to find the culprit but I thought I would ask AI who the guilty party was likely to be: "Pa...
by forzagranata
Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor / Shelvey chant
Replies: 144
Views: 8179

Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

The idea that Mike Tresor is "one of our own" takes the biscuit on this bizarre thread.
by forzagranata
Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tresor / Shelvey chant
Replies: 144
Views: 8179

Re: Tresor / Shelvey chant

We clearly need a committee to approve chants before anyone is allowed to open their mouths. Or maybe they can be run past the FAB for approval in conjunction with Russell Ball?

We also need a number where people can report anyone singing unauthorised chants.
by forzagranata
Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 11124
Views: 1013469

Re: Russia Invades

Of course peace is the urgent goal. No sane person suggests otherwise, but a jumping off point where the aggressor gets everything they want strikes me a somewhat sub-optimal. A peace settlement process where Ukraine and Europe are effectively sidelined is unworkable, and a fairly damning betrayal ...
by forzagranata
Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russia Invades
Replies: 11124
Views: 1013469

Re: Russia Invades

Most expert military opinion indicates that the next year of the conflict will likely see little change to the overall situation in Ukraine - in other words a continued stalemate, some small advances for the Russians perhaps and thousands upon thousands of more deaths on both sides. There is no pros...
by forzagranata
Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Penalty Shout
Replies: 115
Views: 5752

Re: Penalty Shout

dvalley69 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:41 pm
So, you'e saying it's the degree of the force in the tackle that makes the difference, i.e. the risk of a potential injury?
That can be part of the evaluation, yes.
by forzagranata
Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Penalty Shout
Replies: 115
Views: 5752

Re: Penalty Shout

It is really not as simple as this: It's a clear penalty, due to the challenge being careless, the attacker was clearly taken out by the sliding defender. The fact that the ball was touched first is completely irrelevant and not stated anywhere in the laws of the game - every pundit should be sent o...
by forzagranata
Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nelson Arndale Centre
Replies: 72
Views: 5217

Re: Nelson Arndale Centre

When I moved back to the Nelson area for a few years - I would pop into the Arndale now and then to get something from Allsorts. With memories of what it used to be like growing up, it was a depressing and even painful feeling every time I walked in. It's very sad what has happened to the town. It w...
by forzagranata
Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New 'From the Bee Hole End' Newsletter
Replies: 2
Views: 1200

New 'From the Bee Hole End' Newsletter

At 'From the Bee Hole End' we’ve got a brand spankin' new newsletter for you to subscribe to. Edited by Andrew Greaves with contributions from the podcast team and some occasional special guest writers - it lands in your inbox a few times a week and for zero cost. Expect: Clarets news - written by j...
by forzagranata
Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Not sure if you have a set time for release, but I find quite often on Monday/Friday mornings that it isn't out in time for the morning commute. Can this be set at 6am for the early starters? Funnily enough, we have just switched over a few production things and you should find that the pod is out ...
by forzagranata
Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Mini-pod on the Plymouth game is out on all platforms- utilizing an AI 'you know' remover tool.

Full pod to come on Friday.
by forzagranata
Fri Jan 03, 2025 2:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ashley Barnes
Replies: 327
Views: 25885

Re: Ashley Barnes

I like the return of Barnes - but when people talk about his impact on the dressing room it has to be said that there a lot of the players now at the club who have never played with him.
by forzagranata
Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ashley Barnes
Replies: 327
Views: 25885

Re: Ashley Barnes

Just because we have signed Barnes doesn't stop us bringing in another striker. It's a squad game - he's a good option from the bench for the last 20. As Woody was saying on the Bee Hole podcast - as well as maybe helping us get a late goal he is also a master of seeing games out from a winning posi...
by forzagranata
Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sam Morsy
Replies: 170
Views: 14087

Re: Sam Morsy

For over a century football did perfectly well without political or campaign symbols or slogans on kit. They were rightly banned by FIFA and the football authorities. It was a big mistake from the FA and FIFA to move away from that policy a few years ago. This won't be the last of these kind of conf...
by forzagranata
Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 1113
Views: 123166

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Back from the international break and on all podcast platforms (inc You Tube) with the Bristol City de-brief