I repeat I think CAMRA should be more aggressive on the price of Real Ale in this Country. I'm assuming when you say in this Country you mean down south? Because real ale round here is no different in price (in fact it's sometime cheaper) then a premium larger. £2-3 per pint, sometimes in Mancheste...

In recent years I can't recall any racist or homophobic abuse directed at anyone. Really? Cause I hear 'get up you poof' at least once a match! Homophobic language in itself is rife, let alone abuse directed at an individual. As for transgender supporters. I'd be really interested to know if any su...

I'm not gay myself, but have a friend who thinks he might be,what advice could you give me,sorry I mean him? Seriously this is an awful idea totally divisive .Its 2017 nobody cares which way you swing,just as it would be wrong to have a "black supporters group" or Asian fans group or "chubby submis...

Thank you Alice :) this is the only football forum I have ever been on and can see me never living that one down!! survey completed. I'm sure you will, eventually ;) Thank you, your post actually made me think and I've added a TL;DR to the opening post. Interestingly, today stonewall lauched their ...

only read first and last pages so not sure if already asked, forgive me if it has. If this club gets off the ground and has enough supports should BRFC have a separate seating area for LBGT or should it continue to be a co-mingling of all supports regardless of orientation? Also would this club be ...

I must say I think a Gay Supporters Club is a terrible idea. Supporting a football club is a completely inclusive thing, or it certainly should be. We should be able to discuss Burnley Football Club with anyone and everyone, regardless of colour, gender or sexual orientation. In my opinion having a...

Many heterosexuals find the constant sexual innuendos made by a significant number of the gay community quite tiresome. It's often doesn't help their cause when the want others to take them seriously. Cause heterosexuals never make sexual innuendo? You are having a laugh right? I've worked in an in...

2 Bee Holed wrote:Sausage?
Has this thread been a waste of everyone's time?

Is that aimed at me?

Noise from people eating is a massive irritation. I can't help it. It's my equivalent of nails on a blackboard.

So that combined with smelly food on a commute. Urgh. It's bad enough I'm on the train for an hour every day, I do not need that.

Sidney1st wrote:Interview next week...

Congrats! I'm a little bit of a petrol head (not a massive one I just appreciate lots of cars I am never going to afford) Hope it goes well for you, just a little bit jealous!

My general rule of thumb is on tap only, nothing in a can or bottle. Nothing from a supermarket. Nothing brewed south of Nottingham ^^ This! I lived in Manchester and Marble was within stumbling distance of my house, well, when I'd had a few it was a minimum fare taxi at the very least! Certainly t...

I'm not sure there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.....because if EVERYBODY had been born gay way back when then that would be the end of the human race, nobody would be having any children and the human race would have died off.....Obviously that wouldn't happen in modern times because people ...

I might be mistaken, but i believe its just British that take milk and sugar in their tea, the Japanese at those tea ceremonies dont bugger about with bottles of milk, nor do the chinese or indians. Not even sure if China is known for tea drinking, or india ? do they drink it? The countries that se...

Sidney1st wrote:Insert joke about liking meat too much here.

I almost did... but I thought I would leave the door open for someone else... I am rather partial to sausage

And why do you think an LGBTQ supporters club involves either segmenting the ground or discussing sexuality at the football? I think there is a mistaken view that people who are gay behave like people who are vegan. ;) :lol: Oh wait.. haven't I told you guys yet that I am a vegan? (actually I'm not...

Sidney1st wrote:This is true to a degree but there are also some people who can't see or hear things because they don't want too or aren't interested.

Or because they don't affect them directly.

As I have read this thread from start to finish my opinion has changed. Initially I thought like many others there was no point in segregating yourself into another minority group rather than just joining the rest of the clarets. However the coach argument I believe stands for LGBTQ people and that...

I can't imagine the reaction would be much different in a football stadium than it would be on your local high street. You're probably right. Verbal abuse, harassment, being spat at, protested against, physically assaulted.... While it's great that so many people on here assume that equality Is her...

Now I actually don't have any friends, that I know of,????, that are LGBTQ, so it' sounds like I'm not welcome in your club or on your coach if I don't have any links, so how will it ever be a natural part of my life, if I'm excluded? Seems like a backward step to me. Nowhere have I, or anyone else...

Damo wrote:Alice Cooper?

You know. I know a few men called Leslie and a Vivien but I was racking my brain about a male Alice. Thanks. You're right. I could have been Alice Cooper, or a male fan of. Or just a guy called Alice.

You and Damo are joking aren't you? If a poster on this messageboard uses the name Alice I think it's reasonable that they can be referred to as she/her unless known otherwise. Given its a thread about a potential LGBTQ supporters group it wouldn't be a far stretch to think that I could identify as...

Or indeed a "whites only" group. One of the problems with clubs restricted to certain groups is that it's very hard to prevent other, more offensively minded, groups springing up. If the existing supporters' clubs are full of anti-gay, bi, trans, queer, les, and plus people, then there's a bigger p...

What do you mean by 'greater inclusion' in relation to supporting a football club and how did they achieve this? There is the article by the BBC that was mentioned earlier. Research and studies on both PrideInFootball and KickItOut Articles like this from sky sports touches on the differences made....

Damo wrote:Please tell me you didn't just assume the OP's gender?

Could have. But benefit of the doubt could have also seen that I've said I'm a bi woman elsewhere.

But thanks, you're correct, gender neutral would have been a better option.

yeah but that's the point Inchy, if the thousand all pointed the finger at the knobheads then it would be them that would be made to leave not others - the thought process in dealing with the issue is backwards. It's up to us sensible and compassionate ones to start pointing fingers and get the idi...

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40846848

This article was one of my reasons for contemplating the idea.

Although apparently we already have an LGBTQ Supporters Club (or the beeb don't think we are in the Premier League)

You need to at least explain why such a club needs to exist if you expect people to support it. We all know why a supporters club for the disabled exist, it's because collectively advocating for better disabled access and consessions is easier. We all know why Accy Clarets needs to exist, it's beca...

Sorry, but that's a ridiculous comment and does you no favours at all. Accy Clarets run coach travel so that one's pretty obvious and the disabled group, who have special needs, have been set up and are helping the club in determining what's needed at the ground. Badly worded and explained I'll tak...

Good luck. Some people just may not want to stand out though for their own reasons and not necessarily because they're sat next to a raging bigot. Totally, personally I only recently came out to my family. Mainly because I was thinking about the possibility of this! But if it was a group of people ...

I kind of agree Alice - why don't you just join the rest of us? Did you ask the disabled supporters club why they have one? or Accy clarets why they have one? My main thoughts would be that although it would be a LGBTQ+ supporters club, it would have to aim to ensure that other supporters just rela...

Oh I wish that was the case, there have been some recent threads that show that homophobia is very much alive and well, not just in Burnley but elsewhere too! Plenty of clubs now have an LGBTQ+ supporters club and they have found it's lead to greater inclusion. While the 'those that don't welcome yo...

Personally I'm bi-sexual and I can't be the only gay in the village! After a couple of comments that were made on a different thread I'm going to conduct some market research about the viability of setting up an LGBTQ+ supporters club. It's just research at the moment and as much as I'd love there t...

If we had an LGBT group why would any of them post on here? I barely post as a woman. Let alone an LGBT woman. This thread has provided me loads of material for all those people who say that homophobia and sexism don't exist. I shouldn't be surprised that people respond with 'is just banter' Actuall...