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- Sat Aug 30, 2025 3:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: MOLD TRAFFORD STREAMS
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2656
- Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Talksport now
- Replies: 117
- Views: 9206
Re: Talksport now
I agree with all but the Trafford statement. He may not have been suited to last year's relegation battle, but what keeper would be with the defence he had in front of him? Put him behind a stout defence like this year, and when he is called on he has made some excellent saves. Been saying that for...
- Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Best unbeaten runs
- Replies: 58
- Views: 8275
Re: Best unbeaten runs
I think it's fair to say SDs teams squeezed every point out of every game. This team today has left so many points out on the pitch by not squeezing everything we can out of them. It's not the results that's the problem, it's the performances. I thought the last 6 matches had shown that we had lear...
- Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tomorrow's game on TV?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 4085
Re: Tomorrow's game on TV?
!!!Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:36 pmOnly appears about 10min before kick off when we aren’t the feature game.
Even though I know that it’s still pretty tense waiting for it to appear.
- Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tomorrow's game on TV?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 4085
- Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tomorrow's game on TV?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 4085
Re: Tomorrow's game on TV?
How did you find the guide? I'm struggling.
- Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I really enjoyed that game tonight
- Replies: 37
- Views: 3163
Re: I really enjoyed that game tonight
A good performance, but was it really any different to the Oxford game? The main difference for me was last week we didn't take chances and relied on an OG, whereas last night we did. In my head both games went very similar. Dominant first half with plenty of chances followed by a second half where...
- Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:15 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Foster
- Replies: 163
- Views: 11341
Re: Foster
I agree with most of what was said above. Looking more widely it seems to me now that we not only have a solid team but that every individual in that team is performing well. Foster provides real pace.
- Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tickets & Points.
- Replies: 56
- Views: 3703
Re: Tickets & Points.
Why are we still discussing this. For better or for worse (in my opinion worse) the system was changed and that's it. As someone who attended most of my away games in the 3rd and 4th divisions I personally feel rather insulted that suddenly I am considered less "loyal" (whatever that means) than fan...
- Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 8 clean sheets for Trafford
- Replies: 21
- Views: 3173
Re: 8 clean sheets for Trafford
Excellent thread ...and I have to agree...not conceding is the basis of success. I'm still worried that we may not get into the habit of scoring but I've seen enough defeats in my life to be entirely opposed to the type of excitement that comes from losing 6-5 or 7-4 (or even 2-1 for that matter). T...
- Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If Foster is fit for Hull ? Would you play him ?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2750
Re: If Foster is fit for Hull ? Would you play him ?
There were several changes on Saturday. The most significant I thought was Laurent for Hannibal, which meant that Brownhill got forward better. The ball got forward to Flemming far better than it has been doing to Foster in earlier games. The service to Foster has been really poor so far. In practic...
- Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ticket Site Issues: RE Sheff Wed (a)
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4302
Re: Ticket Site Issues: RE Sheff Wed (a)
For the Wednesday shambles - yes. I never got back to them after the Wolves game - there didn't seem much point after the event.
- Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ticket Site Issues: RE Sheff Wed (a)
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4302
- Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ticket Site Issues: RE Sheff Wed (a)
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4302
Re: Ticket Site Issues: RE Sheff Wed (a)
I rang up yesterday and was told to leave a message They rang back and after being then put in a queue for half an hour they added my date of birth Then back on line and got the senior ticket Roughly my experience yesterday except that I didn't trust them to ring back. Tbf when I did get through th...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2 years without Dyche.
- Replies: 55
- Views: 6196
Re: 2 years without Dyche.
Probably the best post I've seen on here and the closest to echoing my own feelings. This season has been the closest I've felt to falling out of love with football. My thoughts exactly. I actually toyed with not renewing ... and considering that I had season tickets some years in the 4th division ...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 25897
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Nearly as depressing a read as yesterday was a depressing watch. (Not sure that makes sense but whatever). To all those arguing that the team has more confidence in Muric......can that really be possible after the last two games? FWIW I would start him in the next game because to drop him might fini...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Top 3 hopes for next season?
- Replies: 76
- Views: 5834
Re: Top 3 hopes for next season?
1. A new and better midfield player.
2. A second new and better midfield player
3. A third new and better midfield player
This will fix the attack, the defence and the goalkeeper.
Probably wont change the badge though.
2. A second new and better midfield player
3. A third new and better midfield player
This will fix the attack, the defence and the goalkeeper.
Probably wont change the badge though.
- Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Maxwell under the Silver Hammer
- Replies: 44
- Views: 9219
Re: Maxwell under the Silver Hammer
Unpopular opinion, but wouldn't interest me in the slightest. Always seems odd to say someone who scored goals like he did at Burnley is a luxury player, but if he wasn't popping up with a screamer, he was doing very little else. When he was scoring the screamers for us, I remember someone at the t...
- Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loyalty Points change
- Replies: 362
- Views: 26968
Re: Loyalty Points change
Yes - I feel that any system which creates a closed shop where a certain group of people simply get to every game they want is thoroughly unfair. The new system is every bit as bad as the old one from that point of view.
- Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 15884
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
I suppose one should actually look at specific clubs. In 2021/22 Sheffield Wednesday finished 4th and then lost out in the play-offs. You'll never convinceme that Wigan didn't profit at their expense.
- Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 15884
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
Ridiculous. How has Wigan being relegated rock bottom punished the fans of other clubs. They are turning cartwheels. The owners should be punished, not the fans. Not the club. As for previous seasons the onus of proof that it directly benefitted the club should be on the league. So what if clubs sp...
- Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lesser-known songs
- Replies: 31
- Views: 2835
Re: Lesser-known songs
I doubt if many of the lads sporting "Ramones" T shirts know this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-L_5HedJbw (Bonzo goes to Bitburg)
- Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
- Replies: 135
- Views: 15884
Re: Wigan Points Deduction
All I am saying is there must be other, better punishments. Not just for the fans sake but for competition itself. If you are punishing wrong doing by deducting points then you are rewarding all the other clubs in the division by giving them an unfair advantage possibly out of all proportion. We co...
- Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O/T Universal Basic Income
- Replies: 124
- Views: 7203
Re: O/T Universal Basic Income
Pretty much my thoughts!quoonbeatz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:24 pmAn excellent idea in principle but it needs to be properly thought through and managed. You only really need to look at the type of people who are dead against it to know its a positive proposal.
- Fri May 19, 2023 7:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Where are Clarets fans from outside of Burnley?
- Replies: 278
- Views: 27743
Re: Where are Clarets fans from outside of Burnley?
Grew up in Castleford near Leeds, lived most of my life in Stockport and now live in Stafford. Home games take all day by public transport and mid-week matches are a nightmare.
- Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 1 to 11 who's the first Burnley player to come to mind.
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3722
Re: 1 to 11 who's the first Burnley player to come to mind.
Halley, Boyle, Watson and 8 others
- Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 18 unbeaten in the league
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2010
Re: 18 unbeaten in the league
100% agree. Sadly there are plenty of stupid people with votes and powerful people who don't care.
- Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: the fans who were leaving after 89 minutes
- Replies: 206
- Views: 19081
Re: the fans who were leaving after 89 minutes
Having considered the various arguments I think the simplest thing to do is lock everyone in until the match has finished. Then allow them out after all the players have been applauded off, via the turnstiles, with juniors and accompanying parents first… then by points so that everyone with 6000+ p...
- Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:52 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
An online queue works for every other type of event, many events way bigger than Burnley away games. There's no need to differentiate. We're all supporters. Yes I agree with this. I can't think of a fairer system than one where everbody has an equal chance of getting a ticket for a particular game....
- Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket Field Stand Tonight
- Replies: 89
- Views: 8267
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:31 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2568
Re: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
Is your objection to people letting others use their clarets number to get tickets for games that they otherwise wouldn't qualify for? There's only one way to stop it, ID to be used upon entry to the ground to ensure the name matches. People don't like that idea though, but it's about the only way ...
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:26 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
We should implement a system whereby you get awarded 100 loyalty points per game multiplied by a factor of how many miles you live away from the venue. So for example, if you live 82 miles from the venue you get awarded 100 loyalty points multiplied by 0.82 - and therefore are awarded 82 loyalty po...
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
So the issue is that the current system prevents people taking kids to away games, thus depriving the club of the lifeblood of the next generation of fans, whilst simultaneously allowing lots of kids who couldn't possibly have 6000 points to go to away games because they use other people's tickets?...
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:20 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
I sit on the James Hargreaves upper...and near me are a couple of old boys. One of them first saw a game in 1947 and the other in 1950. They have had season tickets every year in that stand and as far as I know have been regular attenders at home for 50 years or more. Not sure about their Away histo...
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
In general, I do agree with where you're coming from. The whole better class of fan argument does bug me. But I do think there has to be a way of looking after ST holders who travel to 80%+ of away games. I think with a simple solution like you propose, with a number being reserved for the die-hard...
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:01 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
It's just practicality. You're trying to allocate (say) 2000 tickets to maybe 6000 people who want them. You want some system that has smallish groups so that you can allocate by some sort of objective criteria. Otherwise it's just an on-line queue.
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2568
Re: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
Surely the obvious problem is the use of the points rather than how they are allocated. How about nominating certain games as ones where points cannot be transferred? Another option might be to introduce a rotation system...if you go to one high-value game then you are at the back of the queue for t...
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2568
Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
I'll try and keep this brief. Firstly - a few basic facts. I think the points system started in 2005 - happy to be corrected. At 350 points per season ticket, you would have had to buy 18 season tickets to get to 6000 without any away games. There may have been 1 season when more than 350 were given...
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Still yet to see any decent argument against or any better idea than going back to priority for current ST holders, then general sale. - fans who have committed to that season get an equal chance to buy any away ticket - no more complaints that kids will never catch up - no more groups having to wa...
- Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
I think your first paragraph (!!) is correct....it explains why I have slightly more points than my purchase history seems to suggest.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:31 pmThere was one season, can’t remember which, where we got a shed load of points for renewing.
But those online are obviously talking ********
- Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Speaking as someone with 8000 I expect to shrug my shoulders and accept that just occasionally I can't have every single thing that I want handed to me on a plate.AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:44 pmCan't wait for it to rise to 10k and all those above 6k but under 10k start crying when the shoe is on the other foot
- Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 389
- Views: 28877
Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Just can’t see how it’s fair that people who never / rarely go away get the same priority as a season ticket holders who goes to most away games, for example. I appreciate that your "5 year rolling loyalty points" system is trying to get round a specific problem....but a by-product of this system i...
- Sat Jan 28, 2023 5:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Musings
- Replies: 101
- Views: 8802
Re: Musings
I do the same while saying ," if you can't be arsed coming into this lane, then I can't be arsed going all the way out there to simply come back to where I started from. Nob". Which puts both you and Nonaynever near the of my hate list..... Surely the worst of the lot are people who sit in the righ...
- Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sean Dyche's greatest moments
- Replies: 61
- Views: 4956
Re: Sean Dyche's greatest moments
The proudest man in Proudsville with Burnley in the top 4. I started following Burnley when they were in the 4th division, not 4th place in the top division. This season under Kompany would not have been possible without Dyche. For giving the club a status and level of expectation. For pushing for ...
- Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 170
- Views: 11416
Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
In the 99/00 season I’m sure some games required away ticket stubs/tickets to purchase in a priority order unless I’ve completely made that up. I vaguely remember my dad used to go down with them to prove we had enough as it was way before an online system etc or it may have just been for the Scunt...
- Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 170
- Views: 11416
Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
When did the points system start I've checked my purchase history and the earliest entry is the 2004/2005 season ticket. That sounds about right - we were in dire financial straits and the club were keen to sell season tickets so loyalty points were a bit of added value. Memory is a bit weak on thi...
- Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Big Match - Luton Town v Burnley 1974/75
- Replies: 13
- Views: 1416
Re: The Big Match - Luton Town v Burnley 1974/75
It was the seventies when I started supporting the Clarets It’s such a shame there is so little TV coverage thanks to. On Lord refusing cameras at Turf Moor. I met Colin Waldron once and he is gutted his winning goal away at Deepdale which won us the Championship was not filmed. Thanks for sharing ...
- Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 170
- Views: 11416
Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
It's virtually impossible to stop though. Unless you make people collect tickets on the day like the FA do with England away games, which isn't really realistic. The only thing I can think of is to make people buy in person ....which sort of defeats the whole issue. There is some sort of family and...
- Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 170
- Views: 11416
Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Fair enough, but season ticket holders who go away regularly deserve to be higher up than season ticket holders who never go away. Agreed ... but the present system provides exactly that advantage - you get points for season tickets AND points for away tickets. The only real issue I have (and it ha...
- Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 170
- Views: 11416
Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Think the point is old blokes who haven't been away for years will use their Clarets numbers for other people, who potentially don't even go on the Turf regularly. A rolling points system would stop this happening and reward people who go away more often. If the issue is the transfer of points (and...