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- Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 61
- Views: 5362
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
I'm not really sure what I'm meant to be accepting here. I can't change what Forest are arguing. For the avoidance of doubt, I do believe that Forest have a point re: the reduced thresholds for teams out of the Premier League but I don't believe it is a mitigation, they were aware what the rules we...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 61
- Views: 5362
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
In case people are forgetting - as seems quite apparent from the posts I am seeing - The Premier League will be arguing against a penalty reduction and actually argued for a greater penalty than was given It is the independent commissions that make the decisions, the Premier League has been unhappy ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The summer Trafford/Muric dilemma
- Replies: 26
- Views: 705
Re: The summer Trafford/Muric dilemma
If we look at the possible/probable (depending on your perspective) cash flow issues, particularly if relegation does happen, then the club will be wanting to sell (according to the auditors) and currently the profit is in Muric not Trafford given the transactions that brought them to our club.
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The principle has been agreed today the detail will have to wait for June's meeting - which kind of makes sense as that is when the promoted clubs will officially join from The Athletic Premier League clubs agree to push ahead with spending cap plans https://archive.ph/eIPgf it is interesting that ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It will be interesting as to how the vote goes on this today - if discussions allow it to get that far from The Times Premier League clubs to decide on spending cap A vote in principle on the cap, which would restrict top teams’ spending on transfers, wages and agents, is expected to be taken at a ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 61
- Views: 5362
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
If the ref had correctly disallowed Luton equalizer we would have been in a much better position. Big word is ‘if’ probably don't have to go that late in the season - get Darren England to not argue the Berge handball at the City ground and we have two more points and Forest 1 less with Lyle Foster...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
What is interesting about the proposals is it becomes a triple rather than double measure So we have: - Squad Cost to Revenue - 75% for UEFA qualifiers and 85% for the rest, which will be awful for some Europa League/Conference qualifiers - the 4.5 wages to bottom clubs TV revenue know as an anchor...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 61
- Views: 5362
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
This is part of Forest's complaint on FFP. If you've been in the championship that figures drops (possibly by £22m for each season outside the premier league, I can't remember exact figures). They claim that on promotion to the premier league you actually need to spend more to compete and so coupli...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
- Replies: 61
- Views: 5362
Re: Forest points deduction appeal
Which would give the deduction that Forest believed they were going to get and is why they have appealedCarlos the Great wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:36 pmApparently lots of murmurs suggesting they are getting 2 points back .. that is basically enough to keep them in premier league
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Philippe Auclair with an extensive new article about Asian betting operations, the Isle of Man and the importance of holding a British gaming license - there has been recent police action and some interesting activity by brands we see associated with football, particularly in the Premier League - no...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
In a clear indication of just how much football finance has penetrated football fandom - The Price of Football Podcast released it's 500th episode today with a special interview with Kieron O'Connor better known as Swiss Ramble - it is chatty but Swiss gives a bit of an insight as to what investors ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Issues on Up the Clarets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1685
Re: Issues on Up the Clarets
I don't think I have ever seen Claude AI or Claude [Bot] on this board - though I do not always look
I have commented before that since the launch of various AI apps that viewing activity on certain threads has gone through the roof - if anything it seems to generate more views in a vicious spiral
I have commented before that since the launch of various AI apps that viewing activity on certain threads has gone through the roof - if anything it seems to generate more views in a vicious spiral
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
- Replies: 55
- Views: 2480
Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
The article reads a bit like it's by someone who's never been to Haringey but that's by the by. Spurs make a lot of money from tourists, particularly there to see Son, so you can see why it's an issue. In terms of concessions though, it's a bit more complicated than just looking at the mismatch bet...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Issues on Up the Clarets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1685
Re: Issues on Up the Clarets
Like you say CT the problems have been there for days I have noticed that there has been a significant uptick in the number of visitors to the site recently - well over 600 currently but yesterday lunch it was over 1,200 the other thing I am noticing is the increase in what I can only assume is bot ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12778
- Views: 1268347
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I've said before but I'm a bit surprised there has been much discussion on the minutiae of structural issues like shareholding and little on the meaning of the accounts going forward.. From any perspective, this is a problematic set of accounts. Not least because it doesn't include almost £40 milli...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
- Replies: 55
- Views: 2480
Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
It is probably worth putting this here too - the trend of non tv income at our club
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
- Replies: 55
- Views: 2480
Re: Do the board really want concessionary supporters?
The article in question is one of a number that I have been posting on the MMT recently covering the general dislocation between traditional/legacy approach of fandom and running of clubs and the the ever more desperate search for revenues for those who haven't seen the one discussed in the OP you c...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Legacy Fans v Corporate sensibilities - The Athletic picks up the baton The new Premier League culture war: Corporate interests vs ‘authentic’ fans https://theathletic.com/5416265/2024/04/16/premier-league-fans-corporate-culture/ Jonathan Wilson is the next writer to pick up on this theme from The ...
- Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Been thinking more about this. Doesn't mean all clubs have same effective cap limit. Depends on multiplier used on base figure, some clubs may not have suffcient revenue to spend up to cap. Does mean cap not dependent on each individual clubs revenue, which is difficult to police as we've seen. Cou...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
While this is better than B-teams, I am not sure that this is all that helpful to the National League if fans react in the same way as those in the EFL have done to the EFL Trophy. Overall it just feels like an F.U. to the EFL from The Athletic Premier League and National League in talks over new cu...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
This story about DAZN being upset with The Bundesliga over the awarding of a premium rights package in which DAZN believed that they had substantially outbid Sky for has been running for a while now. It seems that DAZN have chosen to overlook a crucial point - they failed to provide the necessary fi...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:07 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 199
- Views: 15191
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
While much of this attitude is known to Burnley fans it may surprise those of many other clubs - a lot of this has been know for a long time and yet this man was and is deemed fit and proper to own and be a director of football clubs by the games authorities both here and internationally - that has ...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: QPR v Leeds
- Replies: 59
- Views: 2963
Re: QPR v Leeds
for a third time having gained advantage via their financial shenanigans - yet people only talk about Manchester City and Chelsea
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Following that second reading of the Football Governance Bill on Tuesday - Sports Minister Stuart Andrew talks to the Price of Football Podcast in a special edition. I still see a lot of mis-information and populism in the progress of this bill and wonder how a regulator can ever meet the expectati...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
We were initially led to believe it would be this coming winter, but it looks like being sooner than that, or does it? from The Telegraph Manchester City’s 115 charges: Premier League says hearing ‘in near future’ Richard Masters says ‘a date has been set and the case will resolve itself at some poi...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Next summer will see FIFA decamp to North America for the first of what could yet be 3 consecutive years (Club World Cup, World Cup and potentially the Women's World Cup) - anyone still think the US market is not important to football. Broadcast arrangements for the latter two are more established b...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12778
- Views: 1268347
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
so the first Asset Match auction closed today - no shares were traded (that I know of) the 2nd such auction has commenced immediately with a closing date of July 26th 2024 - the documents associated with the listing have not changed. https://www.assetmatch.com/app/OurCompanies/CompanyProfile?company...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC are members of The Union of European Clubs - and have a seat on it's executive board
- Replies: 1
- Views: 472
Re: Burnley FC are members of The Union of European Clubs - and have a seat on it's executive board
I actually found out about the club's involvement through Miguel Delaney's weekly email newsletter - Reading the game this is what it said The clubs underneath the elite find their voice Amid so much jostling between the big clubs, and three of the usual names preparing for the Champions League semi...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC are members of The Union of European Clubs - and have a seat on it's executive board
- Replies: 1
- Views: 472
Burnley FC are members of The Union of European Clubs - and have a seat on it's executive board
Who knew? Executive Director Michael Smith is the representative, elected at their first General Assembly yesterday from Malta Football Dr Joseph Muscat elected to Union of European Clubs executive board on behalf of MP L https://archive.ph/VvF36 learn about the organisation blacklisted by UEFA and ...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:38 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The Football Governance Bill passed its 2nd stage tonight in Parliament - though it seems a number of MP's have unsurprisingly been taken in by the misinformation surrounding FA Cup replays from The Guardian MPs call for English football’s regulator to have power to save FA Cup replays MPs vote in ...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1791
Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
They probably don’t consider internal administrative appointments newsworthy (which they’re not really) but will have a reactive one available if asked. If you follow these things closely, and I am aware that some do much more closely than I, the turnover feels quite high and there is very little c...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1791
Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
It should be noted that Geylang International where Sean Bai was General Manager, after he left Valencia, is a partner to CFG, yes them, again!! Football: Geylang are City Football Group’s first Asean partner https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/football/football-geylang-are-city-football-group-s-firs...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1791
Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
another article that also quotes a club statement - which is a surprise given there has been no official announcement from the club Ex-Singapore diplomat named head of staff at English Premier League side Burnley https://stjohnshoponhopoff.ca/stjohnson/st46ad23905cdvrtjon14/ https://archive.ph/ner77
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1791
Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
It has to be remembered that Valencia are owned by Peter Lim - it is fair to say that his period of ownership has been a rather rocky road, that has seen a large number of employees come and go
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1791
Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
and for those who like to follow club officials on social media
https://www.instagram.com/seanbaizzz/
https://www.instagram.com/seanbaizzz/
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1791
Re: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
The information originally broke in the Straits Times
Former Singapore diplomat appointed English Premier League club Burnley’s chief of staff
https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/form ... f-of-staff
https://archive.ph/HBDDw
Former Singapore diplomat appointed English Premier League club Burnley’s chief of staff
https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/form ... f-of-staff
https://archive.ph/HBDDw
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1791
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1791
New Chief of Staff at the club - takes over the position vacated by Marc Boixasa
Sean Bai - he is an interesting character
Spanish surprise at official moving to Burnley – Was fired by Valencia in 2022 and has been vocal since
https://sportwitness.co.uk/spanish-surp ... cal-since/
Spanish surprise at official moving to Burnley – Was fired by Valencia in 2022 and has been vocal since
https://sportwitness.co.uk/spanish-surp ... cal-since/
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
very vague for the 10,000th post on this thread
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: La Liga games in the USA
- Replies: 22
- Views: 1322
Re: La Liga games in the USA
These are the ones who have just been awarded Football League highlights in the US so I imagine Wrexham playing a league match in the US wouldn't be too far behind. They have also has a long running partnership with UEFA, which fed the International Champions Cup which was played in North America, ...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Elsewhere in The Athletic this is an interesting article - Tottenham's recent accounts showed they were making £4.8m a game (probably more this season), it is not a stretch to imagine a new 'Old Trafford with a 90,000 - 100,000+ capacity generating £10m a game or so - all of which makes the previous...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The proposed change to % of revenue which is more in line with uefa seemed to favour clubs in european comps and therefore more revenue. As you say this new proposal could put those clubs at a disadvantage to the big european teams. Tricky one this. I suspect that this piece in The Athletic today a...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:46 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: La Liga games in the USA
- Replies: 22
- Views: 1322
Re: La Liga games in the USA
There is a rule but we've seen far too often that rule tend to be broken when these club owners want something. we know from recent events re the long running legal case pursued by the promoters Relevent against the MLS and FIFA that FIFA have backed down, been removed from the litigation and are c...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:14 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
They still remain under the ownership of convicted fraudster Andy Pilley, and in the control of the family -so much for the owners and directors test being improved (the convicted rapist owner of neighbours Blackpool wad able to prosper under the previous iteration -before his attempts to defraud a ...
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
In the above I noted that MLS teams outnumbered Premier League ones by 2:1 - not that I found that surprising given I have been noting their valuations for some years now So I was interested to find this story this morning - A British Citizen is paying $500m for a new MLS franchise in San Diego - t...
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tonights Football
- Replies: 116
- Views: 5253
Re: Tonights Football
he has never liked playing a Dyche team - since his first encounter at Turf Moor when we showed him that he was not the only one who new how to get his team to press.
there have been numerous funny (both ha ha and weird) encounters since
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
A new and lengthy article from Martin Samuels about the anchoring proposal to sit alongside the Squad Cost Ratio version of FFP. Samuel is right about it giving the opportunity for the owners of the biggest clubs the opportunity to finally make some profit via dividends (that could also raise the e...
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 199
- Views: 15191
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
Breaking News: It has been revealed that Simon Hooper, the referee for Saturday’s game between Nottingham Forest and Manchester City used to own a Luton van. The Forest hierarchy are said to be furious about a clear conflict of interest and are demanding that he is replaced. I am a little surprised...
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Sky Sports News are saying that 777 Partners have put more funds into Everton, taking their loans to the club past the £200m mark - while this seems bizarre given that they couldn't raise the funds to pay off MSP Capital, it will have been a condition of their extension to that MSP deal https://twi...
- Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10018
- Views: 1051482
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
One of the things I most enjoy about the writing of Miguel Delaney is his demonstration of understanding of context, history and the wider issues that influence a situation - here he uses tonight's Merseyside derby as a both a history lesson and an exemplar of almost everything that is wrong with th...