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by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tour de France 2025.
Replies: 110
Views: 5087

Re: Tour de France 2025.

I've no doubt they will be pushing the boundaries, like many other sports, but I can't believe they could get away with doping in this day and age. This is an interesting and very detailed read from two days ago 12 years after Lance Armstrong, how clean is cycling really? It’s been years since the ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10345
Views: 1525476

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I must say that I am little surprised that it has taken so long for this to be acknowledged within government from The Independent Football clubs and agents named as ‘emerging risk’ in money laundering report Football’s ‘hidden nature’ was raised as a specific issue in the annual report https://www....
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tour de France 2025.
Replies: 110
Views: 5087

Re: Tour de France 2025.

apparently yesterday Pogacar was not at last years levels yesterday and Vinegarrd was worse than his 2022 ride up the dame climb at the end of the stage Power Analysis: Pogačar Just Tore Apart the Tour de France — And He’s Not Even on His 2024 Level Yet Pogačar set the fastest time up Hautacam since...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tour de France 2025.
Replies: 110
Views: 5087

Re: Tour de France 2025.

the fact that the UAE Team Emirates has the history it has makes it worse - you have to wonder what Christian Prudhomme makes of it given his dealings and well documented statements in regard to the teams early incarnation of Saunier Duval and the fact the team is still run by the same people
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tour de France 2025.
Replies: 110
Views: 5087

Re: Tour de France 2025.

Inchy wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:04 pm
When you see a win that comprehensive what’s the first question you ask yourself?
The same one as I asked myself yesterday
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tour de France 2025.
Replies: 110
Views: 5087

Re: Tour de France 2025.

hmmm
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer transfer window
Replies: 5371
Views: 637717

Re: Summer transfer window

I put this in the Espanyol thread but it works here - given the discussion today It is worth noting that approval for this deal by both RASTAR shareholders and the Spanish football authorities has still to happen and may not do so until after the transfer window closes according to the reports that ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Forgot to reply, sorry CT. Good point re Cheltenham, I’d forgotten that. Although again, wouldn’t shock me if ALK shares were in his wife’s name or whatever. I’m not saying he is though, just it wouldn’t shock me because of the nature of the structure. I thought you’d said AP had been diluted from ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC partnership with X
Replies: 128
Views: 3517

Re: BFC partnership with X

On Instagram it’s gone from 711k to 768k in a few weeks. I’ve never seen it go up as fast! Not sure what’s driven that as I can’t believe it’s the Kyle Walker signing! On your point about editorial control, my money is on Ad Hoc remaining involved, but irrespective and probably a similar level that...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC partnership with X
Replies: 128
Views: 3517

Re: BFC partnership with X

On Instagram it’s gone from 711k to 768k in a few weeks. I’ve never seen it go up as fast! Not sure what’s driven that as I can’t believe it’s the Kyle Walker signing! On your point about editorial control, my money is on Ad Hoc remaining involved and probably a similar level that they got. I belie...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC partnership with X
Replies: 128
Views: 3517

Re: BFC partnership with X

Plissken wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:51 pm
No, I call Nazis Nazis because they say and do things associated with the Nazis. It's not a difficult position to comprehend.
Quite so.
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC partnership with X
Replies: 128
Views: 3517

Re: BFC partnership with X

so today @BurnleyOfficial has 823.5k followers - the follower growth has greatly slowed across social media for the club in the last 18 months - it will be interesting to see if this gives way to a new surge as far as the deal goes it feels like an experiment by X and will be interesting to see just...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

It is worth noting that approval for this deal by both RASTAR shareholders and the Spanish football authorities has still to happen and may not do so until after the transfer window closes according to the reports that have been shared through this thread.
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10345
Views: 1525476

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

As if to prove my point about exemplary governance not being something that will impress FIFA - this article from The Guardian makes clear that while the PFA and FIFAPRO were not part of the discussions, expelled former member organisations and voted off leaders were. Fifa dispute with global playe...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10345
Views: 1525476

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

So this is an intriguing twist on UEFA's dithering about it's multi-club rules and approach. The intriguing element is the ECA, who have had UEFA in thier pocket both pre and post Super League - it is why there are now so many games in European Club competitions. I suspect that this will do Crystal ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10345
Views: 1525476

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Opinions of Multi-club operations will vary - we have long known that the owners of our club had aspirations in this direction - but it should have been easily prevented if the games governing bodies had moved to prevent it as it began years ago. As we know. that is not the way that governing bodies...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Allardyces Bolton
Replies: 23
Views: 2215

Re: Allardyces Bolton

It’s only a one off at this stage. But the signing of Walker reminded me of some of the players Bolton signed under Allerdyce. Experienced, very talented players at the tail end of their career but still with an attitude and desire to play at the top. And forgetting Okocha, Hierro and Campo. They a...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584990

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

aggi wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:21 pm
Those 200 shares are still sitting unsold on Asset Match at £400 each. A little surprised ALK haven't done a deal for them.
me too - £80k seems a snip to ALK's valuation of the group
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Suggestion here that the share buy back is €81m in two to five years https://en.ara.cat/sports/it-s-official-chen-yansheng-is-no-longer-espanyol-s-largest-shareholder_1_5442961.html?hl=en-GB a slightly smaller number than in the other article I have archived your link for future reference Chen sell...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I think it was pretty different. From what I remember Garlick and John B kept some of their shares in BFC Holdings post the initial takeover. ringfenced for a fixed price until October 2024 - of course they were disposed of on 15th November 2022 as part of a renegotiated deal in April 2022 (my sour...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Hi CP, in your last paragraph you mention that Velocity might be picking up the operating losses of Espanyol but where do you think the funding will come from to do that? Hard to say, but initially I would think from the cash that investors have put into Velocity. Of course Velocity could raise cas...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

The numbers are startlingly similar! And this is exactly how I expected our deal was done (shares swapped for shares/units in ALKs structure - at least until buy out). It would not shock me if our previous owners are still invested somewhere down the line. The bit I’m unsure about is whether this h...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I think that’s impossible under the rules. not if funds are transferred via inter company loans in the way we have seen previously - it is key that that RCD Espanyol now fall under Velocity Sports Ltd (Jersey) the entity that wholly owns the shareholding in Velocity Capital (UK) Limited the entity ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I think CP said one club funding another was illegal under regulations, and Textor got done for attempting the same with Botafogo and Lyon. Not sure on the specifics, although I’m not sure how it’s monitored or prevented in the scenarios you describe. Not me though Textor failed to convince the DNC...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

The problem I have with this is the finances. Where is the 180m coming from to buy Espanyol? Are BFC financially losing out? Will our budgets be cut to support Espanyol financially? If we sold a player for £40m, does that £40m fully remain with BFC? The latest numbers beting quoted are interesting ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Website very slow today
Replies: 28
Views: 2148

Re: Website very slow today

It says Google (Bot) at the bottom in the who's online. There was another that said Bot but that has now gone. one or both the Google and Bing bots are almost always active - they operate in a way that does not affect the sites performance - the AI bots (depending on where they are from can (and ha...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Website very slow today
Replies: 28
Views: 2148

Re: Website very slow today

aggi wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:52 pm
Most likely AI bots scraping the site. There was a report recently that bots make up something like 50% of internet traffic now.
When that has happened previously the page view numbers on the longest threads have rocketed - that has not happened today
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Website very slow today
Replies: 28
Views: 2148

Re: Website very slow today

feels like it is under attack - why else would there be over 1800 guests viewing on a day like today
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1 Billion kit deal for FC 115 of Manchester
Replies: 6
Views: 1462

Re: 1 Billion kit deal for FC 115 of Manchester

add in the shirt sponsor and just from the shirt they have a greater annual revenue than we probably will for the season from commercial, matchday, catering, retail and tv. The rest of their commercial deals will likely be more than twice our total revenues - so that is at least 3 times as much befo...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10345
Views: 1525476

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting piece in the Guardian about the increasing demands fans of Premier League clubs residing in Asia have - getting the balance right between domestic and international fanbases is one of the greatest challenges clubs in the big leagues are going to face given the very different standpoints ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Hi CP, surely, if the previous statement said Alan Pace owned 50% and Hunt and Smith owned 16.9% each , there were other owners of the remaining 16.8% . If the more recent statement says ALK Capital is wholly-owned by Alan Pace, Mike Smith and Stuart Hunt then we are also being informed that there ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Not sure when this was updated but it is the first time since September 2021 Burnley FC Company Details https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/legal-information/legal-information-company-details https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/download/file.php?id=39646 just for the record Velocity Capital (...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

That doesn’t show money going directly to Alan Pace though does it, as I have said I don’t want to make the thread move away from the actual subject, ALK investment group will benefit like majority of us ownership groups but nobody can factually say Alan Pace is personally benefiting Now you are ju...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1 Billion kit deal for FC 115 of Manchester
Replies: 6
Views: 1462

Re: 1 Billion kit deal for FC 115 of Manchester

There are headline figures and then there is the real detail - which has not been forthcoming - it will be a big number in reality, just not necessarily that big

from The Athletic

Manchester City sign new Puma deal: Analysing the £100m per season kit partnership
https://archive.ph/yJ0y6
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I don’t need to know the full ins and outs but if you want to show me anything that shows Alan Pace has personally benefited or received money since his owning us then feel free to show me Not sure when this was updated but it is the first time since September 2021 Burnley FC Company Details https:...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:38 pm
But there’s no proof that Alan pace is personally making money, it’s purely speculative
that is because none of the businesses he is involved with that provide him direct income produce accounts, a statement that also aligns to the ones that own the majority shareholding in Burnley Football Club
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Big Vinny K wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:47 pm
Yep
Me too
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

If you read the Press Release on Espanyol's web site .... again an archived copy of the statement for future reference - pretty much convinced now that little money used upfront and it is in effect a merger that allows for a withdrawal in the future for RASTAR should they wish OFFICIAL STATEMENT ht...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10345
Views: 1525476

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

this feels topical - and a lesson that very few seem to realise, including the current owners at our club I would argue, who went against almost everything stated here when they arrived as even Sean Dyche acknowledged in the recent 'From the Bee Hole End' podcast from the Gameplayer blog of Jordan W...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

It’s certainly an interesting development. Investors into Velocity will be more attracted to the idea of a portfolio of clubs, than just Burnley. I do wonder if, when trying to find new investors, they’ve not found it very easy, and this move should / could make it more attractive. Of course, more ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I still feel like the report of kortrijk is just reporters looking at old links, could be completely wrong and Vincent Tan might be looking to sell now they have been relegated People are forgetting that the deal was so close last summer that Velocity were actually involved in the signing of player...
by Chester Perry
Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Loan signings going to Espanol, we're expected to spend over 100m euros. https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/espanyol/nuevo-propietario-espanyol-estudia-comprar-119705192 I have archived a translated version of this for future reference Espanyol's new owner is now considering buying Belgian side KV Ko...
by Chester Perry
Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10345
Views: 1525476

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Something that I have posted about for years now - with the desire to expand club football at global and continental level - it is domestic football that will pay the price. So given the autocratic distanced nature of FIFA in particular, it is no surprise that European Leagues are taking legal actio...
by Chester Perry
Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Hi CP, I'm curious about your words. What exactly has been "public knowledge for a while?" The deal has only been confirmed today. Has there been any previous public announcement on the structure of acquisition of Espanyol? Media reports that the deal was: - not for the whole shareholding of the se...
by Chester Perry
Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tour de France 2025.
Replies: 110
Views: 5087

Re: Tour de France 2025.

karatekid wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:47 pm
Are the highlights on normal telly in the evening?
just started
by Chester Perry
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: All roads in town chaos
Replies: 9
Views: 2697

Re: All roads in town chaos

dougcollins wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:08 pm
Terrorists don't need a bomb, just dig a hole.
to be honest the whole country could be brought to standstill by a hack into a lot of modern cars
by Chester Perry
Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

They had to stay on at Burnley for 3 years or so until ALK could raise enough finance to buy their shares. I think this will be the same. ALK haven't got the finance to buy them out straight out, so have given these shares to them until payments can be made. Only guesswork mind. While true that the...
by Chester Perry
Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:24 pm
Don't worry about Europe, Pace will just pull a Marinakis and paper exercise a blind trust
It does not appear to be in his nature - same could be said for Marinakis - who seemed very much involved while that blind trust had it's short existence
by Chester Perry
Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Choose your favourite away win in the Premier League
Replies: 35
Views: 1399

Re: ARTICLE: Choose your favourite away win in the Premier League

Loved the Chelsea one but a very tough choice over ending that Liverpool run - it was always good to see Klopp so upset
by Chester Perry
Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37201

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

They had to stay on at Burnley for 3 years or so until ALK could raise enough finance to buy their shares. I think this will be the same. ALK haven't got the finance to buy them out straight out, so have given these shares to them until payments can be made. Only guesswork mind. It has been public ...