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by Chester Perry
Thu Oct 02, 2025 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: more planned alterations at Turf Moor
Replies: 246
Views: 15098

Re: more planned alterations at Turf Moor

Spoken like someone who doesn't live in the town, doesn't go to games and has an irrational dislike of the owners. Such a stupid take on a project to improve the town. Lived in the town all my life - apart from University (can you say the same given your moniker) and certainly witnessed the impact ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Oct 02, 2025 10:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: more planned alterations at Turf Moor
Replies: 246
Views: 15098

Re: more planned alterations at Turf Moor

I think that’s a bit simplistic. The rest of St James’s Street, Curzon Street, and Pioneer Place had been developed. The stretch from Turf Moor to the Bus Station was the next obvious area to be looked at and was in desperate need after the other redevelopment work. People can agree or disagree how...
by Chester Perry
Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: more planned alterations at Turf Moor
Replies: 246
Views: 15098

Re: more planned alterations at Turf Moor

Is there any evidence of that happening? If you think it might be an issue, you can submit a freedom of information request for all details regarding the planning and pre planning application. I would start with the Town to Turf project - all done, primarily, to benefit the club with public money. ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Oct 02, 2025 9:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

"The Spirit of the Law" has always had no claim over right and wrong in the eyes of the law, on the other hand the 'Spirit of the game" used to have some real meaning. There are those, who do not know better, that think Leicester's Premier League title is a fairytale in the modern game, a wonder tha...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 30, 2025 6:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football Heritage - the Orient Game
Replies: 25
Views: 1828

Re: Football Heritage - the Orient Game

A potentially very interesting discussion absolutely ruined by the host presenter - a real shame
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I think this all depends in where you sit in footballs finance hierarchy £1m to Burnley is about 0.75% of revenue in the Premier League, for Manchester United it is 0.15% Some clubs see competitive value in having the league enforce it's rulebook (or at least how they perceive the rulebook) against ...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 28, 2025 11:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Out of my tiny mind - YT
Replies: 168
Views: 26525

Re: Out of my tiny mind - YT

OK, deep breath. Bit different this week. When football means nothing and everything. Anchors and Liferafts - on being a football fan https://youtu.be/6m4KEnSfKP4 Spot on, hopefully those who mock anyone who references 'the Orient game' as a means of referring to such understanding will themselves ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 26, 2025 2:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The drip-feed of new financial rules under discussion at the Premier League continues - remember that: - the Premier LEague executive can male all the proposals it wants, it is the clubs that have to vote them in or reject them - if new rules are not voted in before the January transfer window then ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Everton Tribunal
Replies: 19
Views: 5765

Re: Burnley v Everton Tribunal

Appears that Leeds have settled out of court for their claim againstEverton - though it was not a big one anyway

from The Athletic

Leeds and Everton reached settlement over 2021-22 profit and sustainability rules breach
https://archive.ph/kKXrv
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

No surprise that the Squad Cost rules are set to remain on the back-burner in the Premier League next season from The Guardian PSR era in Premier League to continue after clubs oppose new spending rules Chances of new rules adopted before next season slim Perspectives differ according to clubs’ leag...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

More detail here on how anchoring could benefit the other 14 in the Premier League (though I still wonder how long that will last, given the pressure from FIFA/UEFA on the football calendar) put in the context of why Manchester United voted against the idea from The Athletic Why Manchester United v...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 20, 2025 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It reads like a marriage in hell to football traditionalist's, The Financial Times with a story of an unholy marriage of Multi-club football and Crypto treasury that seems intent on only growing the value of a single crypto currency Cathie Wood and UAE in $300mn crypto bet on football business Brera...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Column of Martin Zeigler in The Times suggests that the Premier League will be proposing new finance rules for the newly pro moted clubs - mainly in regard to allowable losses (something which is likely to require EFL approval I would think) when it next discusses it's finance rules. That discus...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 20, 2025 10:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Far too much about modern football takes place away from the pitch - as this thread proves. Manchester City under it's current ownership are one of the major reasons why this is so. Today marks an anniversary of sorts - it is a year since the hearing of those infamous Premier League charges (various...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 19, 2025 9:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The FA's 74 Charges against Chelsea caused a lot of hoo-haa when they came out, though the notion of severe sanction/punishment was immediately tempered by remembering what an inept organisation that is. Perhaps more important is the Premier League's own investigation into similar issues. Chelsea un...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13606
Views: 1662743

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Project 23rd Century Ltd, owner of AI Scout and Ai.io has been though a lot of changes recently. Today's confirmation Statement shows that a significant number of shareholders have sold either the whole or part of their shareholding to the Saudi Company for Artificial Intelligence which now has the ...
by Chester Perry
Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It is not often we get a deep insight into the investment packs that clubs create to either sell or generate interest in mew investors, so the leak of a recent such pack from 49ers Enterprises around Leeds United is a rare opportunity - though we don't get access to the pack ourselves Keep an eye ou...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 14, 2025 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: THE SUPER CLARETS vs Liverpool - Match Thread
Replies: 231
Views: 8054

Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs Liverpool - Match Thread

Hannibal showing clearly why Sean Dyche would not allow players to turn their backs on shots and crosses - just invites a penalty opportunity
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Quite a lot was posted on this thread last year when Fair Game posted their index of Football club sustainability - you can refresh your memory here https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/search.php?keywords=Fair+Game+Index&t=20891&sf=msgonly anyhow - this years has just been posted, though you ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 09, 2025 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

If this accord between the Premier League and Manchester City lasts then it will save both parties a considerable sum, However, I suspect that Manchester City's owner will be all to willing to start new actions if the Premier League makes decisions he disagrees with. It is worth noting that Manches...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 09, 2025 12:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nuno
Replies: 49
Views: 3734

Re: Nuno

It is a club Sean Dyche would love to manage - having experienced the current owner of the club as an opposition manager would he want to work for him? Not that it is likely they would come in for him.
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 09, 2025 12:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

More on that Manchester City threat of the new rules - I have a suspicion we have either abstained or changed tack from the previous vote from The Telegraph Man City believed to be behind Premier League legal threat over ownership rule changes Premier League clubs such as Chelsea, Newcastle and Cit...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 07, 2025 2:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

we have seen it in this country a number of times, even at our own club and now it is becoming a feature in France, where the problems with a succession of failed TV deals, remind us of how the Football league was hit by the collapse of ITV Digital, the parrallels of which I have remarked on previou...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 06, 2025 9:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It is an idea abhorrent to many so called 'legacy supporters', yet is one that has long been talked up by various leagues as the financial power of the Premier League has grown = this summer outspending all the other big five leagues combined. Some will tell you that the final opportunity to prevent...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 04, 2025 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

As much as many fans want tight control over football club owners, I cannot be the only one who believes that this approach is fraught with unforeseen problems. there are some good reasons why the games authorities have not gone down this route in the recent past, and I am not talking about the puni...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 04, 2025 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: CFS - Ticket Exchange
Replies: 48
Views: 2532

Re: CFS - Ticket Exchange

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Thu Sep 04, 2025 9:32 am
Surely its a security issue to stop away fans buying in that section
I would have gone with they don't trust their own ticketing systems - a situation which many on this board appear to share
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It is just possible that by this time next month Josimar Football may cease trading due to financial pressures (they need £50k of subscriptions) so this may just be their last report on the whole sorry affair of 777 Partners and their failed financial actions within football Collateral damage Roll ...
by Chester Perry
Mon Aug 25, 2025 5:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I am far from sure that this premise is true - Betting sponsors can go on the sleeve and it is quite likely that the income from sleeve sponsorship is going to grow significantly, as will training kit sponsorship and perimeter advertising rates I suspect - there may still be a deficit (which will be...
by Chester Perry
Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It can be all well and good for people (yes I include myself) to criticise how are clubs are run - but could we run the boardroom of a Premier League club? - I know I could not/ should not

Anyhoo the Financial Times have a new game where you can test yourself

https://ig.ft.com/football-game/
by Chester Perry
Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It is kind of nice to know that some American owners really do know how to boost commercial income. If we look at our own club, the best Velocity have achieved is just over £14m which scrapes in as the 3rd best in the clubs history (thanks to Covid repayments in 2019/2020 or it would have been 4th, ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Osmajic
Replies: 349
Views: 52234

Re: Osmajic

No matter how you look at it, it has no impact on Burnley whatsoever, but the timing of this could not be worse for PNE. It's dragged on to the point where the transfer window will be closed, so selling him will be difficult whilst this hangs over him, and if he does get a lengthy ban the window is...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13606
Views: 1662743

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

aggi wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:44 pm
Looks like these have finally sold. I wonder who to.
I saw the bid of £400 per share last week - they were put up late this time, with the bid quickly following - it appeared to be a co-ordinated approach.
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This has been a popular cross-topic of discussion over the last 18 months, but what are the numbers

from The Athletic

Premier League clubs, PSR and £1.9bn in academy sales since 2020: How much has each club made?
https://archive.ph/NaaFf
by Chester Perry
Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 744
Views: 42812

Re: Access for home fans

so this has been an eventful read One can only presume the lateness of this is to minimise advanced protests - though the club may say it was due to late approval from the SAG I am intrigued that there has not been a proper trial of these new procedures I wonder about the potential for additional is...
by Chester Perry
Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

There is a lot to like about Grimsby Town co-owner Jason Stockwood, though I do not always agree with him. In this months column for the Guardian he makes a lot of strong points about the path being taken by the ownership team at Birmingham City. The criticisms could be stronger, but there is much a...
by Chester Perry
Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is going to be a huge feature of discussion in both Political and football circles - the fundamentals that public in vestment in sports facilities for professional sports (and indeed major international sports competitions) never produces the returns promised upfront are so well established tha...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Support for Scott Parker.
Replies: 27
Views: 2353

Re: Support for Scott Parker.

Article in The Times today (behind a paywall). Good interview. Personally wish him all the best and hope we stick with him. Here you go - more often than not you will find that some kind sould has added an article of interest to the web archie Scott Parker illustrated: manager who puts his emotions...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How American believers rebuilt an English soccer underdog
Replies: 2
Views: 865

How American believers rebuilt an English soccer underdog

Some will really like this It is a picture that friends paint - though it has to be said that this is not designed for Burnley fans Just be aware that this is a sister publication to the oldest newspaper in Utah and is owned by the CoLDS How American believers rebuilt an English soccer underdog In n...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who owns Burnley?
Replies: 51
Views: 5048

Re: Who owns Burnley and all other PLClubs

,,,,,,,, The bigger questions are how on earth has the FA allowed such opaque ownership to develop and what can they do to protect fans interests. The simple answer is that they are allowing owners to use the law in terms of public disclosure, they could implement rules to say otherwise. You must r...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley
Replies: 27
Views: 4082

Re: New venue for Sunderland v Burnley

posted on the MMT, but for those who do not look at that - there are many - it is also relevant to this thread This is essentially a legal argument, most pertinently it neglects to mention that the MLS had opposed league matches from other countries being played on US soil - that is why Relevent wen...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is essentially a legal argument, most pertinently it neglects to mention that the MLS had opposed league matches from other countries being played on US soil - that is why Relevent went to court (with several cases) in the US so they could promote such games. It also neglects to mention that FI...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who owns Burnley?
Replies: 51
Views: 5048

Re: Who owns Burnley?

Alwaysac I guess it’s a multimillion dollar one now further complicated by how this all relates to “ALK Capital's sports subsidiary Velocity Sport Limited (VSL), has acquired Spanish top-flight club RCD Espanyol” With an English parent company but partly owned by American shareholders, VSL also own...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 2:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who owns Burnley?
Replies: 51
Views: 5048

Re: Who owns Burnley?

Hi CP, take a look at LinkedIn if you are interested in Stuart Hunt's connections with some Papa John restaurants. "Stuart Hunt is a Partner at ALK Capital and Director at Burnley Football Club. He is also President of PJ Restaurants, a large franchisee with Papa John's International and Managing M...
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who owns Burnley?
Replies: 51
Views: 5048

Re: Who owns Burnley?

merging into the takeover thread is not a bad call
by Chester Perry
Fri Aug 15, 2025 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who owns Burnley?
Replies: 51
Views: 5048

Re: Who owns Burnley?

It is questionable if Pace owns the suggested shareholding - what we do know is that he certainly is the one with majority control All ownership data has long been shared on the takeover thread, where there is more depth and nuance to the information including the structure, how the different share ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Martin Samuel picks holes (as is his want) in UEGA's treatment of multi-club groups in it's competitions - there are a number of seemingly reasonable points being made here - though the fundamental issue of UEFA being hugely reliant on big clubs and wanting more of them for it's revenues and effecti...
by Chester Perry
Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Depending on where you are in the world your view as to the merit/success of FIFA's Club World Cup - though no one is surprised to hear that Gianni Infantino believes it is a huge success. It is perhaps more important to consider what is to follow, some of which I have been trailing for several yea...
by Chester Perry
Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Everton Tribunal
Replies: 19
Views: 5765

Re: Burnley v Everton Tribunal

I'm not entirely sure whether your comment is tongue in cheek, Claret86, but it really wouldn't surprise me, and, of course, that would, in some way, be a bit like looping the loop. Given that the Premier League has spent well over £100m in legal fees in the last 3 years, it would be one way of rec...
by Chester Perry
Thu Aug 14, 2025 12:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Everton Tribunal
Replies: 19
Views: 5765

Re: Burnley v Everton Tribunal

It was supposed to be heard in July, but we’ve heard nothing. Possible reasons are that the hearing was deferred, is ongoing, it’s been heard awaiting outcome, or has settled before/during the hearing. Makes me wonder if we’ll never hear about this again. Wouldn’t really shock me if it’s all been w...
by Chester Perry
Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10422
Views: 1643278

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It is interesting that certain sections of the media are only just getting this though into their heads now - we know it has been a long running issue that has occupied this thread for several years now from The Telegraph The Premier League clubs waging war on season-ticket holders Revenue-hungry to...