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by claretspice
Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Spotland cup date for the under-21s
Replies: 66
Views: 2625

Re: ARTICLE: Spotland cup date for the under-21s

What are the eligibility rules of this competition and is it possible we'll see some of the senior players who need game time getting a run out?
by claretspice
Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bronwhill confirms departure
Replies: 137
Views: 12652

Re: Bronwhill confirms departure

A blow for us and it will be interesting to see where he ends up. His best position in the Premier League, and one I don't think we've ever seen him play enough, is as third central midfielder liberated to get into the box and make attacking runs and lead the press. It would have been interesting to...
by claretspice
Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The “where are we up to” thread
Replies: 133
Views: 11033

Re: The “where are we up to” thread

I would think we the squad currently looks like this: Inked in - Goalkeepers - VACANCY, Weiss, Hladcky/Green (one to be loaned out) Defenders - Tuanzebe, Esteve, Walker, Humphreys, Roberts, Hartmann, Pires, Worrall Midfielders - Cullen, VACANCY, Laurent, Hannibal, Ramsey Attacking midfielders - Anth...
by claretspice
Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Our greatest goalscorer Willie Irvine dies
Replies: 127
Views: 5667

Re: ARTICLE: Our greatest goalscorer Willie Irvine dies

Some years ago I went to a Burnley v Leeds game with a friend who was on a wheelchair. He was supposed to be in the corner between the Jimmy Mac and Longside but this was before we were properly organised for disabled supporters and he couldn't get in, which was a bit embarrassing given I'd sorted t...
by claretspice
Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End podcast…
Replies: 97
Views: 5328

Re: FTBHE - Jimmy Mullen exclusive - out now!

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that leaving aside my dad's influence I support Burnley because of Mullen's Burnley. I was 7 when he became manager, and had gone to Burnley for the first time earlier that year. We lived nowhere near Burnley and got to a handful of games a season. Had the s...
by claretspice
Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: JBL is back with the Clarets
Replies: 109
Views: 7757

Re: ARTICLE: JBL is back with the Clarets

JBL has proved he can score goals out of nothing at Pemier League level and seems to have the knack which a lot of players don't, especially high scoring Championship strikers. Unlike some of our our players who can flatter to deceive, JBL isn't a flowery/fancy player but has end product. (Would be...
by claretspice
Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: JBL is back with the Clarets
Replies: 109
Views: 7757

Re: ARTICLE: JBL is back with the Clarets

Id say Larsen offers more verticality in his movement and attacks space better than current options. If you go back and review his goals from last season they all, except Luton away, come from this. I found his general play lacking at times, doesn’t really ever beat a man with skill, or look partic...
by claretspice
Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: JBL is back with the Clarets
Replies: 109
Views: 7757

Re: ARTICLE: JBL is back with the Clarets

We do need players that can provide quality and a goal threat off the bench. Right now, who are our goal threats? Flemming and ? JBL at least adds there and has shown that he has quality to score out of nothing and bag half chances. That was the only negative mark of our team last year and it's loo...
by claretspice
Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: JBL is back with the Clarets
Replies: 109
Views: 7757

Re: ARTICLE: JBL is back with the Clarets

A little surprised by this signing. JBL is a decent and respectable player. He did fairly well last time and has similar qualities to Anthony - he's good positionally, works hard for the team (although Anthony offers more in that respect), and is technically sound with an excellent touch. However, p...
by claretspice
Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Greatest last minute goal by any team
Replies: 57
Views: 3460

Re: Greatest last minute goal by any team

Surprised no mention for Beckham's last minute free kick against Greece which (I think) secured qualification for the 2002 world cup. 25-30 yards out, 93rd minute, and absolutely perfect. For execution under pressure it's pretty well unbeatable I think. I'd probably say Jimmy Glass eclipses it for s...
by claretspice
Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes back for more
Replies: 71
Views: 5681

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes back for more

Not as convinced as everyone else seems to be about this. For me we needed two strikers in this window. Having re-signed Barnes I still think we need two strikers in but we’ve now one fewer space in the squad to fit them in. He’s got form for proving people wrong, but signing people because they’re...
by claretspice
Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes back for more
Replies: 71
Views: 5681

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes back for more

Captain of the second XI and the perfect man for that role. See him in the cups and perhaps the odd appearance off the bench, but his value will mostly be in the background. As others have said, it was a mistake not to retain him in this capacity two years ago, whatever the logic for his departure.
by claretspice
Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Clarets land Ipswich defender Tuanzebe
Replies: 64
Views: 6150

Re: ARTICLE: Clarets land Ipswich defender Tuanzebe

dandeclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:25 am
Could also look like

Trafford

Roberts New Esteve Pires.....
Yep. You need depth in the premier league. That means 8 or 9 defenders all comfortable at the level.
by claretspice
Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Clarets land Ipswich defender Tuanzebe
Replies: 64
Views: 6150

Re: ARTICLE: Clarets land Ipswich defender Tuanzebe

Good signing on paper, and a sensible move for all parties. Hopefully if it goes well we'd be looking to quickly explore a longer contract. Primarily a centre back from whenever I've seen him, but it's not hard to imagine him playing at right back if Parker ever wants to adopt the flexible 442 in po...
by claretspice
Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley
Replies: 200
Views: 14741

Re: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley

Mee more than held his own in his ariel battles in the top flight. CJER won next to nothing in the air in the far less challenging second tier. This needs putting in context thought. Egan Riley is 22 and has one season of first team football behind him. When Ben Mee was the same age, he was just si...
by claretspice
Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chris Wilder gone …..
Replies: 79
Views: 12498

Re: Chris Wilder gone …..

I think Wilder did a superb job last season, certainly up until January. He got a team who weren't especially fancied into the promotion picture with a string of astute, cheap signings and by promoting some promising young players (and despite injury to their best young talent). The business they di...
by claretspice
Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley
Replies: 200
Views: 14741

Re: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley

I'm not sure what more we could have done tbh. He was very young when we got him and that first season it's difficult to make an argument that we should've accommodated him given that we went on to be perhaps one of the greatest championship sides of all time, and the meanest defence in the league....
by claretspice
Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 681
Views: 40777

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I don't like Multi-Club ownership, at all but that is a systemic issue rather than a club specific one and ALK have never hidden their interest in it as a model.

The news is a touch concerning, but lets wait and see how it pans out before jumping to conclusions about what it means for Burnley.
by claretspice
Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley
Replies: 200
Views: 14741

Re: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley

This is disappointing news, and there are most certainly lessons to be learnt from this. If we're a club that has a model bringing in young talent, developing it and selling it on, you can't allow a player of that ilk to leave on a free at the end of a 3 year deal. Either his potential was not fully...
by claretspice
Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our legal dispute with Everton
Replies: 42
Views: 7168

Re: Our legal dispute with Everton

Yeah, agree that’s the best write up I’ve seen. Still some points I disagree with, not least the assertion that our claim might be £10m! Unless it’s a typo and they missed a zero off it. It’s a fair point on Gray and Townsend’s wages, but it sort of underlines the complexity, because a whole host o...
by claretspice
Sat Jun 07, 2025 8:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our legal dispute with Everton
Replies: 42
Views: 7168

Re: Our legal dispute with Everton

https://stefanborson.substack.com/p/explained-burnley-v-everton-to-be This is the best summary I've seen of the somewhat nuanced and complicated legal constructs we will need to overcome in order to make a claim stick - particularly around the idea of a claim based on a "lost chance" to survive. Reg...
by claretspice
Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our legal dispute with Everton
Replies: 42
Views: 7168

Re: Our legal dispute with Everton

1. They should have stopped spending in the summer prior . That year they signed Mykolenko, Patterson, Gray cheaply and Townsend (free). I think we’ll do detailed analysis of their contributions to the season. Simplistically, summer signings that year scored 40% of their goals from the season. The ...
by claretspice
Wed May 28, 2025 10:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: We’re choosing the best home performance of the season
Replies: 22
Views: 2190

Re: ARTICLE: We’re choosing the best home performance of the season

The five best home performances that I saw were Watford before Christmas, Bristol City, Norwich, Sheffield United and Millwall. But of those, I think Norwich and Bristol City were the best performances in terms of quality of football, but neither were entirely complete. But I thought given the size ...
by claretspice
Wed May 28, 2025 8:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Zeki.
Replies: 44
Views: 6742

Re: Zeki.

There's a decent player in Amdouni, but I don't think his movement was quite good enough for the Premier League (too often, he wanted the ball to feet, stood still, and you simply don't get that sort of time in the Premier League) and his work rate wasn't quite enough - that's not to say he was lazy...
by claretspice
Mon May 26, 2025 12:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Edwards is now a full time Claret
Replies: 45
Views: 4074

Re: ARTICLE: Edwards is now a full time Claret

Good player, good fee. To put it in context (and without any criticism of those players intended) it's half what we paid for each of Tresor, Amdouni and Ramsey. There will be a question about his physicality in the Premier League but a proper pre season will also do him a world of good. You can get ...
by claretspice
Sun May 25, 2025 8:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aston Villa
Replies: 78
Views: 5392

Re: Aston Villa

Just seen the clip of the incident with who sounds like Ally McCoist summarising. As he said in that clip, it is a goal. No doubts a huge error at 0-0 with only 17 minutes left, no doubts the ref should have waited before blowing, no doubts the big clubs almost always get the decisions (e.g. a too ...
by claretspice
Sun May 18, 2025 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brian Glanville RIP ...
Replies: 12
Views: 2220

Re: Brian Glanville RIP ...

The first British journalist to take a serious interest in foreign football and use words I had to look up in the dictionary. McIlvanney might well have been the better writer though. RIP Jim Lawton and David Lacey would be others of a similar vintage to be of the top drawer. I think those 4 would ...
by claretspice
Sun May 18, 2025 9:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Henderson Decision
Replies: 66
Views: 3604

Re: The Henderson Decision

Even if you accept there's a covering defender it's still an obvious goalscoring opportunity for Haaland once he's toed the ball past Henderson (and it still is if he's forced slightly wide). Same logic that applies if the foul/handball is by a defender and there is still the keeper to beat. But for...
by claretspice
Thu May 15, 2025 8:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Ekdal goes out on loan
Replies: 209
Views: 20153

Re: ARTICLE: Ekdal goes out on loan

I'd also say that Humphreys is pretty quick, certainly by centre half standards. But Esteve is very quick.
by claretspice
Wed May 14, 2025 8:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Egan-Riley
Replies: 402
Views: 43521

Re: Egan-Riley

If Egan-Riley didn’t want to extend his 3 year deal because he wasn’t playing prior to this season and then decided to wait out the season once he had established himself, I’m really not sure what the club could learn. Unless the lesson is to sign everyone to contracts longer than 3 years or extend...
by claretspice
Wed May 14, 2025 7:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Egan-Riley
Replies: 402
Views: 43521

Re: Egan-Riley

I think the last paragraph is a tad harsh. What ALK have largely done since they came in is sign younger players and on long-ish contracts. To a degree this has paid off with big money sales of the likes of Odobert, Berge, Collins etc and smaller (but decent) profits made on players like O’Shea, Mu...
by claretspice
Wed May 14, 2025 2:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Egan-Riley
Replies: 402
Views: 43521

Re: Egan-Riley

if this is true and happens, then it's clearly a big blow. Egan Riley was outstanding this season and I was certainly someone who thought he had qualities that could shine in the Premier League. He's quick and he's excellent in possession - that ability to turn defence into attack with long, accurat...
by claretspice
Sun May 11, 2025 9:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Squad for next season
Replies: 49
Views: 3879

Re: Squad for next season

No I saw him at Forest numerous times and was never impressed and was equally disappointed in the games I saw him play for us. Add that to the Rangers fans views of him which also weren't positive and I just don't think he's good enough for Premier League football. I hope I'm wrong because he seems...
by claretspice
Sun May 11, 2025 5:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Squad for next season
Replies: 49
Views: 3879

Re: Squad for next season

Have you seen Worrall play. He can't be playing any minutes for us next season if we want to be staying up. He's miles off it I have seen him, yes. But he's not played enough football to judge him properly. Like most players he needs a run of games. And unlike Ekdal (who I rate) he does have experi...
by claretspice
Sun May 11, 2025 4:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Squad for next season
Replies: 49
Views: 3879

Re: Squad for next season

Ekdal has been an absolute revelation at Gronigen by all accounts. I'd hope we were looking to keep him over Worrall Whilst I like Ekdal, Parker sent him out on loan very quickly on January and if he comes back to Burnley it's likely as back up. From a business perspective if Ekdal has pulled up tr...
by claretspice
Sun May 11, 2025 10:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Squad for next season
Replies: 49
Views: 3879

Re: Squad for next season

I'd have thought Keane made sense as a potential signing particularly if Egan Riley re-signs. Assuming Ekdal and Delcroix move on permanently, we will need another centre half regardless. Someone with good Premier league experience but whose star has waned a bit so is likely to accept they'll have t...
by claretspice
Thu May 08, 2025 8:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bristol City v Blades
Replies: 108
Views: 5746

Re: Bristol City v Blades

Initially I thought the ref had got that wrong. Having seen the reverse angle, I reckon he's spot on. The initial pull back is the only reason he stops Moore getting a shot away (without it, he doesn't hook his foot round and nudge the ball away), that pull back is cynical and not an attempt to play...
by claretspice
Thu May 08, 2025 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2025 BFC Transfer Window - Links and discussion on the Linked player only.
Replies: 649
Views: 131184

Re: Summer 2025 BFC Transfer Window - Links and discussion on the Linked player only.

You can pick and choose what you read on here can’t you? Of course. But I think this thread was set up to deal with more tangible speculation, with another thread already existing for more general conjecture. Doesn't feel unreasonable for someone to ask folk to bear that in mind so that when people...
by claretspice
Thu May 08, 2025 12:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2025 BFC Transfer Window - Links and discussion on the Linked player only.
Replies: 649
Views: 131184

Re: Summer 2025 BFC Transfer Window - Links and discussion on the Linked player only.

Isn't the distinction not so much between different publications, but between articles that include a concrete link or information/claims that advance what we know, and those that are pure speculation/hot air? The Brownhill one linked above doesn't include any sort of link. It just says that if he w...
by claretspice
Wed May 07, 2025 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Final Player Ratings 2024/25
Replies: 47
Views: 3018

Re: Final Player Ratings 2024/25

Most of the attacking players are undervalued because of the 0-0 effect, where defenders score higher by virtue of keeping clean sheets but attackers suffer by not scoring or assisting. We had a lot of 0-0's. You can't reasonably suggest that Bashir Humphreys had a better season than Anthony, Brown...
by claretspice
Wed May 07, 2025 10:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Final Player Ratings 2024/25
Replies: 47
Views: 3018

Re: Final Player Ratings 2024/25

Brownhill's rating is low to the point of suggesting he's under appreciated. He's the players player of the season and got 19 goals from midfield. He's had a season which is closer to very good than average. There are two other players under valued - Anthony and Pires. Two of our outstanding players...
by claretspice
Mon May 05, 2025 12:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Millwalls goal - offside?
Replies: 120
Views: 7061

Re: Millwalls goal - offside?

The player can move. If Edwards has the ball three yards out, fires it across the goal to Barnes who is only two yards out, and Barnes comes back a couple of yards to tap it in, then Barnes is offside - it is irrelevant which way the ball was going. (Perhaps more likely is that if Edwards plays the...
by claretspice
Sun May 04, 2025 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barnes Interview
Replies: 36
Views: 5147

Re: Barnes Interview

I’ve never seen another player with the ability to win cheap free kicks like Ash. Worth its weight in gold when you’re hanging into a slender lead. Good example of those cheap free kicks won right before the second goal on Saturday - Egan Riley picked out Anthony from the free kick before Millwall ...
by claretspice
Sun May 04, 2025 8:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Millwalls goal - offside?
Replies: 120
Views: 7061

Re: Millwalls goal - offside?

The point is that the reason he didn’t follow through into the player is that it was a block using the side of his leg with the ball going up along his body and behind him. His studs were never going to go into the Millwall player. I think that is a reasonable argument for why it is not violent con...
by claretspice
Sun May 04, 2025 8:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barnes Interview
Replies: 36
Views: 5147

Re: Barnes Interview

I don't know if he makes our 25 man squad next season- it probably depends how many under 21s we have - but you'd want him around the squad for another season regardless. Even if he's playing for the U23s primarily as a development player.
by claretspice
Sun May 04, 2025 7:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A good season for Northern Clubs ...
Replies: 26
Views: 2071

Re: A good season for Northern Clubs ...

You mention Carlisle & Morecambe and in my years watching football we’ve lost a lot of northern clubs in the league. Bradford, Workington, Southport and Barrow all lost their places in the re-election days although Barrow are back. Then all of Hartlepool, Darlington, Scunthorpe, Halifax, Chester, B...
by claretspice
Sun May 04, 2025 7:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Millwalls goal - offside?
Replies: 120
Views: 7061

Re: Millwalls goal - offside?

The photo above shows both players in exactly the same position equidistant from the ball and classic 50/50, when Barnes arrives it’s even his body that blocks the ball not his foot. Both players were as brave as each other and certainly Barnes wasn’t going to back out. A wonderful moment to treasu...
by claretspice
Sun May 04, 2025 7:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Millwalls goal - offside?
Replies: 120
Views: 7061

Re: Millwalls goal - offside?

Personal view - it's a foul from Barnes. Or to be more precise because it is a subjective call, the referee could easily have given a foul and had he done so we couldnt have argued. There is definitely a coming together and Barnes gets very little, if any of the ball in the first instance (I think i...
by claretspice
Sat May 03, 2025 4:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Andrew Kitchen v Millwall
Replies: 30
Views: 1837

Re: RATE THE REF - Andrew Kitchen v Millwall

I'm not at all sure either first half goal should have stood, although I thought Barnes perhaps got the benefit of the doubt because Kitchen had his doubts about Millwall's goal.
by claretspice
Sat May 03, 2025 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Millwall - Player Ratings
Replies: 35
Views: 3753

Re: Burnley v Millwall - Player Ratings

An enjoyable afternoon despite the Leeds result. Trafford - 7 - couple of tidy saves. Roberts - 6 - a couple of shaky or sloppy moments but not bad. Pires - 7 - some lovely touches and passes although I thought he could have done more to cover the near post and therefore prevent Millwall's goal. Ega...