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by aggi
Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10431
Views: 1654472

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

As you would expect in this kind of column a lot of different stories going on - most of them have featured in this thread for a long time - I am particular struck that Football Clubs are acting more like corporations everyday, using dispute resolution as means of cheaply offsetting payments is a n...
by aggi
Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10431
Views: 1654472

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

HMRC ("tax man") recovering £90 million un-paid tax from football in UK. Andrew Ellson, Consumer Affairs Correspondent, Tuesday October 07 2025, 7.03pm, The Times https://www.thetimes.com/article/5aacbbbd-a239-46fd-9183-d6c08bdfef0f?shareToken=484a3be1aaf4182062e4e2a24e64312f £90 million tax recove...
by aggi
Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hartman
Replies: 8
Views: 718

Re: Hartman

Weghorst started for them which surprised me a bit.
by aggi
Thu Oct 09, 2025 2:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team for Leeds
Replies: 84
Views: 3991

Re: Team for Leeds

Flemming did have that x factor in the Championship and scored some fantastic goals, but as Dark Cloud has summarised several posts above "Flemming does not have the pace or movement to seriously trouble PL defenders". I suspect Flemming is not a lot faster than Barnes Personally, assuming there ar...
by aggi
Wed Oct 08, 2025 1:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tuanzebe
Replies: 70
Views: 4374

Re: Tuanzebe

I heard Ekdal squared up to Matt Williams when he heard he'd been dropped.
by aggi
Tue Oct 07, 2025 10:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: UEFA reluctantly agree fixture move
Replies: 64
Views: 3098

Re: UEFA reluctantly agree fixture move

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Oct 07, 2025 7:17 am
If they kickoff at 10pm that would be early afternoon back in Italy. And i agree with those saying its only a matter of time till the American owners in the Prem are pushing for it again.
Definitely a reason to not want Birmingham to be promoted.
by aggi
Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: UEFA reluctantly agree fixture move
Replies: 64
Views: 3098

Re: UEFA reluctantly agree fixture move

This feels like uefa were aware they'd lose a court case if they refused it.

It may be an opportunity to strengthen their rules to stop it happening again but I guess that will take some agreement.
by aggi
Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Mattress Advice
Replies: 31
Views: 1483

Re: New Mattress Advice

dougcollins wrote:
Mon Oct 06, 2025 10:33 pm
I often wonder what happens to the ones that get returned..
They sell them as refurbished at a hefty discount.

https://otty.com/collections/refurbished-mattress-store
by aggi
Mon Oct 06, 2025 7:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ekdal
Replies: 57
Views: 3621

Re: Ekdal

So If Ekdal was dropped you would still think he was in front of Worrall in the pecking order for a bench slot And then if he threw his dummy out of the pram when he saw Laurent still in a back three position that Josh struggles with, you could understand that, and why either Parker left him totall...
by aggi
Mon Oct 06, 2025 4:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Grant Collins
Replies: 16
Views: 2823

Re: Grant Collins

I was actually wondering about this kind of non-executive role yesterday - it makes much more sense now, and obviously would not have to be declared by the club publicly. Non-exec directors are still directors for legal purposes and need to be declared at Companies House. But could be doing the rol...
by aggi
Sun Oct 05, 2025 8:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Info - Aston Villa (a)
Replies: 20
Views: 1251

Re: General Info - Aston Villa (a)

jaketurner5500 wrote:
Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:08 am
Is the Witton Arms still the away fans pub?
I remember going there a few years back but looking on Google it's looking like home fans only.
by aggi
Wed Oct 01, 2025 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: First ever Rugby match live
Replies: 55
Views: 2446

Re: First ever Rugby match live

This is a bit weird

Leigh 'do not intend to fulfil' Wigan semi-final

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-leagu ... jq241lx92o
by aggi
Tue Sep 30, 2025 10:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Steve Cotterill
Replies: 48
Views: 3651

Re: Steve Cotterill

For all the talk of limited budgets Burnley were spending well beyond their means when Cotterill left. Wages were increasing significantly and were higher than turnover. He went down the route of signing seasoned pros which paid off in terms of quality over quantity but we weren't picking them up on...
by aggi
Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Potter sacked
Replies: 50
Views: 3685

Re: Potter sacked

He finished 9th with them and had them in 4th when he left? How is that ‘on paper’? I’d suggest their success after he left was thanks to his work over time to get the club to that level, which also helped attract a top coach like De Zerbi. Brighton had been chucking cash at it for a while at that ...
by aggi
Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: JonJo Shelvey
Replies: 26
Views: 3386

Re: JonJo Shelvey

I feel I was pretty accurate here: Good that we haven't lost any first teamers (possibly Rodriguez excluded) and moved on a few that we didn't need. Bad that we've not added much. Edwards could be good and is the main bright spark of the window, but it is likely he'll need easing in and may not feat...
by aggi
Mon Sep 29, 2025 10:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tickets not working today at city
Replies: 47
Views: 2643

Re: Tickets not working today at city

Of course, that's not necessairly an advantage. Brighton already use it for that, making it all but impossible to transfer a ticket at the last minute. One man got a half-season ban because he bought a ticket for one son but a different son used it - on a match that wasn't even sold out! Not necess...
by aggi
Mon Sep 29, 2025 10:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tickets not working today at city
Replies: 47
Views: 2643

Re: Tickets not working today at city

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 10:50 pm
I'm all for technology if it improves things for people, but struggling to see any advantages of digital tickets over old fashioned paper one's?
Fairly soon it will be used for clubs to control the resale market. No transfer between devices without it going through the club's marketplace.
by aggi
Mon Sep 29, 2025 10:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Potter sacked
Replies: 50
Views: 3685

Re: Potter sacked

He was one of those who looked good on paper at Brighton, his teams had a good xG record but that was used to suggest that the team were going to come good under him rather than question why he was underperforming the stats. The improvement after he left suggested it may well have been the latter.
by aggi
Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Looking for a word that might not exist
Replies: 15
Views: 946

Re: Looking for a word that might not exist

Chopping onions and convex meniscus on here tonight - what a time to be alive :lol: If I recall, mercury makes a convex meniscus , as do a lot of molten metals, due to the way the molecules all attract each other fiercely. A bit like a 4-4-2 formation :D This is what I remember it from, being taugh...
by aggi
Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stewards At Burnley CC
Replies: 114
Views: 7994

Re: Stewards At Burnley CC

I also read, every home game, releases from the cricket club, and Burnley police that the cricket club is the place for away fans, that's what its aimed at, take away fans to somewhere else nobody would go to the cricket club When I go away, I usually follow the police advice as to which pubs to go...
by aggi
Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Promoted sides doing far better than expected
Replies: 29
Views: 2636

Re: Promoted sides doing far better than expected

We had one of the easier sets of five games according to Opta, I guess due to Spurs and Man Utd being terrible last season: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1dFNMrWUAAzBYt?format=jpg&name=medium Regardless, the three teams that came up are all much more pragmatic than teams in the past few years. They'r...
by aggi
Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dubravka
Replies: 37
Views: 3704

Re: Dubravka

He likes a punch but he always seems to get good distance on them.
by aggi
Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: First ever Rugby match live
Replies: 55
Views: 2446

Re: First ever Rugby match live

Not been for a while but been to a reasonable number of union games over the years. They've really convinced me that we shouldn't have drinking in the stands at football, it's a constant stream of people going to the bar and coming back again. Not a huge fan of league normally but watching it live i...
by aggi
Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Match of the day
Replies: 84
Views: 6588

Re: Match of the day

I'm not sure what people were expecting, the main story was obviously going to be Forest's new manager.
by aggi
Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Royal Dyche heading to Kansas
Replies: 24
Views: 3216

Re: Royal Dyche heading to Kansas

I remember eating a lot of barbecue when I went to Kansas City.
by aggi
Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Help, opinions, warning - Speeding ticket
Replies: 104
Views: 4295

Re: Help, opinions, warning - Speeding ticket

I have received a speeding ticket for speeding on the M5 around Droitwich. Mobile speed camera. The reason I write, is that my speed was captured as 79mph. I cruise control atc78, so won't argue with 79, however, my understanding is that 10% + 2 and no action. On a motorway, that is 79, hence my 78...
by aggi
Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Help, opinions, warning - Speeding ticket
Replies: 104
Views: 4295

Re: Help, opinions, warning - Speeding ticket

There probably is a little leeway because the speed dial in your car, generally speaking, isn't 100% accurate. My mechanic friend reckons GPS (SatNav) is more accurate. They aren't, but by design they can overestimate the speed, and usually do, but can't underestimate it. Modern cars, particularly ...
by aggi
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Head of Academy Operations
Replies: 8
Views: 1750

New Head of Academy Operations

Adam Collins has left Blackburn Rovers to become Head of Academy Operations at local rivals Burnley. Another one with City links but I suspect that's because City were leading performance analysis in the early days so there are lots of people who have come from there. https://trainingground.guru/bul...
by aggi
Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton compensation claim
Replies: 87
Views: 10243

Re: Burnley/Everton dispute

Not sure that’s true, is it aggi? It was never going to “court” as the Premier League rules keep all legal matters internally/out of court. So it was always going to be a “hearing” which is happening at the Dispute Resolution Cebtre. Most interesting part of that article for me is that we’d hired E...
by aggi
Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton compensation claim
Replies: 87
Views: 10243

Re: Burnley/Everton dispute

A bit more discussion on it here
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80514&p=2523689
by aggi
Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton compensation claim
Replies: 87
Views: 10243

Re: Burnley/Everton dispute

This should be a gift version of the I article https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/burnley-sue-everton-relegation-legal-battle-3919512?utm_campaign=PNIFmbi4rsytjq9&ito=gifted_article&data-target=gifted_article&utm_source=XJPLeh5koSHChZEU Nothing really new in there except clarification that it isn't ...
by aggi
Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Injured players
Replies: 24
Views: 2199

Re: Injured players

We were all laughing at half time about the lack of knowledge regarding the rules. We don't do ourselves and favours with the tag we get given by other clubs about booing and moaning. Carragher and whoever the commentator was had no idea why Anthony was allowed to stay on after Bradley's foul in th...
by aggi
Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ekdal
Replies: 26
Views: 3532

Re: Ekdal

Ah, this is where I meant to post this

Laurent was mainly playing right wing back. Think he occasionally dropped into the middle when they needed a bit of height but it was mainly Walker as the third centre back
by aggi
Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings
Replies: 69
Views: 5869

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Dubravka - 8. Literally nothing to save. Claimed well and punched at the right time Walker- 8. Got done by gakpo a few times Laurent- 9. Quietly effective in a back 3 Ekdal- 9. Superb Esteve- 9. As above Hartman- 10. For an attacking full back had Salah in his pocket for all of it Cullen- 9. Captai...
by aggi
Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ex Burnley players now Captains of their clubs
Replies: 18
Views: 1953

Re: Ex Burnley players now Captains of their clubs

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:22 am
Had Tarky been appointed captain this season? I thought it was still Coleman.

EDIT: Everton captain is still Séamus Coleman.
Coleman has played 1 minute so far this season so more of an off the field role.
by aggi
Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Liverpool
Replies: 73
Views: 3557

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Liverpool

He has a tendency to assume the big teams are right and the lesser teams have transgressed and that was very evident today. Of course ultimately it was a penalty at the end, but it's all the other stuff which went before which bugs me! I think part of this is that big teams just hit the deck more, ...
by aggi
Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Liverpool
Replies: 73
Views: 3557

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Liverpool

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:04 pm
He did apply the rules, the player doesn't have to leave the field if a card is given for a challenge that makes them need treatment.
Same happened with Anthony in the second half (where it was clear the commentators didn't know the rules).
by aggi
Thu Sep 11, 2025 11:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley’s youngest full international
Replies: 15
Views: 2222

Re: Burnley’s youngest full international

Whatever happened to Cameron Howieson ? a contemporary of Kyle Lafferty is my memory is ok I came across this a while ago https://aleagues.com.au/news/cameron-howieson-auckland-fc-interview-signing-new-zealand-burnley-st-mirren-semi-professional/ Seems he moved back to Auckland, played semi-pro (Au...
by aggi
Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fully Electric Cars
Replies: 932
Views: 70575

Re: Fully Electric Cars

What’s going to happen when these cars get 80,000 on the clock ? surely the people who used to run old bangers because they couldn’t afford anything better aren’t going to risk buying a car whose battery may pack in within a year or so. Generally it's not going to be a case of batteries just go fro...
by aggi
Wed Sep 10, 2025 11:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New football terminology
Replies: 64
Views: 3158

Re: New football terminology

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 7:51 pm
When did “Bomb Squad” become a thing in football?
I'd not heard of that in a football context and assumed it was the same as in rugby. Googled it and turned out to be pretty much the opposite.
by aggi
Mon Sep 08, 2025 12:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1976
Replies: 40
Views: 3134

Re: 1976

RammyClaret61 wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 11:25 am
In England, before 2009, Is there a year that hasn’t produced a Premier League player?
I'd imagine 1950 and earlier.
by aggi
Fri Sep 05, 2025 12:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: JJ isn't having it
Replies: 107
Views: 7614

Re: JJ isn't having it

Totally agree with putting a time limit on VAR reviews, but in relation to all review types. For subjective decisions, a clear and obvious error should be determinable quickly, otherwise they should be deemed not clear and obvious and the original decision stands. Clear and obvious has never been a...
by aggi
Thu Sep 04, 2025 11:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA screw up again
Replies: 10
Views: 2843

Re: FA screw up again

I'm not sure if this is blending two stories together and getting the wrong outcome. From what I read in the Athletic, who are generally better at this type of story, the point was that Forest didn't want the same KC as judged on the Atwell case judging the Chelsea match and failing to control playe...
by aggi
Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What now for James Trafford?
Replies: 124
Views: 9220

Re: What now for James Trafford?

It's a bit weird that everyone just refers to David Eyres. Trafford's agency is CAA which is probably the biggest sports agency in the world. Eyres works for them but he's not going to be the sole person calling the shots on a large transfer to Man City.
by aggi
Wed Sep 03, 2025 6:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bronwhill confirms departure
Replies: 388
Views: 47384

Re: Bronwhill confirms departure

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Sep 03, 2025 2:45 pm
He'd get payed for July even though hes out of contract, its a PFA ruling (madness I know)
This only applies if the contract offered was lower than the existing contract or no contract was offered.
by aggi
Wed Sep 03, 2025 12:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our ladies team.
Replies: 72
Views: 8661

Re: Our ladies team.

Odd one. Clearly a temporary move until Beard goes in there but why would you leave a contract with 12 months to go for a short term gig, I don’t know. Leicester must’ve offered huge money. He talks about family reasons. Rest of his career seems to be midlands/north so could be that his family didn...
by aggi
Tue Sep 02, 2025 2:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: That's It Folks!
Replies: 11
Views: 2412

Re: That's It Folks!

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/transfer-deadline-day-2025-everything-you-need-to-know Clubs in the Netherlands, Norway and Brazil will have an additional day to complete their business, with the windows in those countries closing on Tuesday 2 September. It's 5 September for teams in Austr...
by aggi
Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A meeting with the C.O.O of the Shadow Independent Football Regulator
Replies: 6
Views: 1054

Re: A meeting with the C.O.O of the Shadow Independent Football Regulator

I was surprised to read that they are already employing 50 people or so as part of the Shadow Independent Football Regulator. Obviously planning on hitting the ground running, and a bigger department than I expected.
by aggi
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Clarets bring in midfielder Florentino
Replies: 45
Views: 5323

Re: ARTICLE: Clarets bring in midfielder Florentino

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:32 pm
Thanks - interesting. So it’s a simply a cash flow manoeuvre then?
The big difference will be when the VAT is due, even if the transfer is paid in installments the VAT is paid upfront.
by aggi
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Clarets bring in midfielder Florentino
Replies: 45
Views: 5323

Re: ARTICLE: Clarets bring in midfielder Florentino

Really? Not sure on that... PSR is based on accounting dates and if we don’t recognise the permanent transfer until the next accounting period (26/27, it won’t affect this years PSR calcs. Can you show me an example of this not being true? Accounting treatment here https://viewpoint.pwc.com/dt/uk/e...