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- Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3517
Re: BFC partnership with X
"Well there's the Lancet for one, generally viewed as one of the most reliable journals out there and not reliant on the US government for funding" Frederick L. Altice wrote the lancet piece and he works for Yale who get US government funding Ah, maybe they just forgot to credit him. https://www.th...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3517
Re: BFC partnership with X
Reliable doing a lot of heavy lifting. Studies by people who have had funding cut. Well there's the Lancet for one, generally viewed as one of the most reliable journals out there and not reliant on the US government for funding. Especially as current estimates show deaths in the US will probably o...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3517
Re: BFC partnership with X
Not a huge fan of Musk himself, I just worry about his sanity legitimately. But I’m glad the club has made this deal. More exposure on an app with a huge audience can only help the club. But it’s labeled a partnership… what’s in it for X? Are we paying them or are they hoping the massive worldwide ...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3517
Re: BFC partnership with X
But DOGE was about reducing the American civil service, it happens to public sectors all over the world with political parties of all flavours. Now the way he went about certainly displays the fact he’s an ego maniac and a complete dick, but politically (whether you agree with it or not) reducing t...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3517
Re: BFC partnership with X
I really don’t like Musk, but (apart from that one ‘salute’ which probably wasn’t actually a Nazi salute) which of his actions are you using as evidence of him being a Nazi? He’s a deeply unpleasant individual but I doubt he’s an actual Nazi. Nazi adjacent is probably more accurate. Anyway, here's ...
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 198
- Views: 5094
Re: UEFA European Women's Championship
Some shocking penalties there. At least Lucy Bronze knew how to take a penalty.
Certainly seems that just belting it into the goal has gone out of fashion for some reason.
Certainly seems that just belting it into the goal has gone out of fashion for some reason.
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 198
- Views: 5094
Re: UEFA European Women's Championship
Sounds qualified to referee in the premier leagueTHEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:01 pmAlmost as hilarious as the officials collective performance to this point. The allowing if several foul throws in the first 5 minutes told you all you need to know
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 198
- Views: 5094
Re: UEFA European Women's Championship
After she was told she was going to be number two.
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5371
- Views: 637718
Re: Summer transfer window
What's he doing in Portugal? He should be in Burnley sorting out transfers!123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:19 pmAlan Pace is in Portugal, watch the latest YouTube video at the game they are playing at the end, he’s involved, so the bed wetters can relax about him and the scouting team being in Barcelona
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Yorkshire Drought
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1263
Re: Yorkshire Drought
Genuine question because I have no knowledge of how the industry works. Why are Londons reservoirs at around 90% capacity where as the Penine ones are around 40%. North vs. South: The Tale of Two Water Supplies Explains Reservoir Disparity London's reservoirs are currently holding strong at around ...
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Allardyces Bolton
- Replies: 23
- Views: 2215
Re: Allardyces Bolton
Would be interesting to hear whether Bolton fans would have swapped being an average yo-yo club with having those highs and then the subsequent downfall.
Gretna were probably the best example of what happens when your owner gives massive levels of funding and that is suddenly cut off.
Gretna were probably the best example of what happens when your owner gives massive levels of funding and that is suddenly cut off.
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5371
- Views: 637718
Re: Summer transfer window
We have been praising Parker for the past 4-5 months in the way he has steered us to promotion/100 points/30 clean sheets/man management etc As we know, in his day he was one of the fiercest midfielders I had seen in this country, so lets assume, having managed in the PL already, that he knows firs...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 13595
- Views: 1584990
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Those 200 shares are still sitting unsold on Asset Match at £400 each. A little surprised ALK haven't done a deal for them.
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
The latest numbers beting quoted are interesting deal value of EUR 130m - with EUR 65m upfront and EUR 65m of shares in Velocity Sports Limited (Jersey) giving RASTAR 16.45% of VSL (which values VSL at EUR 395m) There are reports of an opportunity for Velocity to buy back those shares for a premium...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
The numbers are startlingly similar! And this is exactly how I expected our deal was done (shares swapped for shares/units in ALKs structure - at least until buy out). It would not shock me if our previous owners are still invested somewhere down the line. The bit I’m unsure about is whether this h...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I do find the Rastar bit interesting as it's a company I've dealt with a bit over the years. They're a big name in toy cars, particularly licensed ones, and also have a gaming division that does pretty well. So far as I'm aware they're not massive though, maybe $500m t/o at their peak so Espanyol mu...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I don't think ALK have any intention to sell either. But yes It would be dependent upon ALKs view at any given moment in time. For ALK to realise the full value of the asset someone would have to pay £200 million and take on the Creditors as well as having money to invest. But you are right the int...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I doubt the club is saleable at the moment as a single business unless ALK take a big loss or we go into administration. Their may come a time when ALK can sell it at a reasonable price but I don't think they will be able to any time soon. A buyer would have to pay ALK £200 million plus for the sha...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 1 Billion kit deal for FC 115 of Manchester
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1462
Re: 1 Billion kit deal for FC 115 of Manchester
What's interesting in these deals now is that most are structured so that there is a big upfront payment and then you need to sell an absolutely huge amount of shirts before any extra revenue comes through for shirt sales (obviously you will get additional money if you sell them in your own club sho...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Website very slow today
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2148
Re: Website very slow today
You don't have to go that far. Site techies/admin can block Googlebots and other web crawlers/scalpers while keeping the site open to lurkers. Lots of the bots don't respect the instructions to not scrape and reappear from different IP addresses so very difficult to block. The forum I'm thinking of...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Website very slow today
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2148
Re: Website very slow today
It was down to thousands of connections from GPTBot. OpenAI have agreed to respect the blocking text in robots.txt but apparently it is possible that it is another bot pretending to be ChatGPT. The bot has now been added to a blacklist but it took time for the changes to go through. I thought I'd m...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Website very slow today
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2148
Re: Website very slow today
Most likely AI bots scraping the site. There was a report recently that bots make up something like 50% of internet traffic now.Chester Perry wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:22 pmfeels like it is under attack - why else would there be over 1800 guests viewing on a day like today
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
And they are owned by ...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Espanyol seem to be Schrodinger's football club. Poor enough that we can send our substandard players there and they'll be grateful for them but also good enough that they'll be taking Premier League players from us to keep them whilst we get promoted again.
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Private equity (I know ALK said they aren’t, but the structure is similar) typically takes money from investors, puts it to work over time, and then yes, returns money to those investors, with the aim of a positive cash on cash return for them, while taking a clip themselves. There may have just no...
- Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Half Time
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2513
Re: Half Time
We will be having a 45 min half time and 5 min breaks after every 15 mins soon. It is coming. More adverts, more money. They want Americans to watch football for whatever reason, and the facts are without lots of adverts, breaks and half time shows American's aren’t interested. They are prepared to...
- Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wimbledon
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1398
Re: Wimbledon
Wimbledon ran out Evian water(today (one of their sponsors) how can that happen when every man and his dog knew that a heatwave would last the whole tournament i bet the “royal box” didn’t run out of water probably drinking Champagne anyway, instead let the working class suffer You probably needed ...
- Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Amdouni serious injury?
- Replies: 150
- Views: 11321
Re: Amdouni serious injury?
I feel the blocking option needs an update so you can also block posts quoting those you've blocked. It'd help to make a jakubclaret infested thread more palatable.
- Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 198
- Views: 5094
- Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 198
- Views: 5094
Re: UEFA European Women's Championship
So how are positions decided in case of being level on points? Could potentially be 3 teams on 6 here.
- Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lyle Foster
- Replies: 141
- Views: 9490
Re: Lyle Foster
With an open mind checking the stats. Last Champ season 24-25 stats: 17 starts - 7 goal contributions (playing majority LW) Premier season 23-24 stats: 22 starts - 8 goal contributions Total over last two seasons: 39 starts - 15 goal contributions Has he been worth the £9 million we paid? Judging b...
- Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5371
- Views: 637718
Re: Summer transfer window
Can see Tresor playing as a number 10 especially if Amdouni is injured. Benson will be sold which means 4 wingers which is what we require and Tresor can step in if required. Tresor's stats as a number 10 are virtually the same as his left wing stats : Played 71 - Goals 15 - Assists 22 As our squad...
- Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:01 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The old Burnley footage thread
- Replies: 54
- Views: 4430
Re: The old Burnley footage thread
A few years ago I ripped the One Night in York DVD after I found a copy at home and uploaded it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbkwsSM0_sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbkwsSM0_sw
- Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:20 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5371
- Views: 637718
Re: Summer transfer window
1 January 2004 is the cut off for under 21 players. Don't know who that leaves in/out
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: MP's vote
- Replies: 15
- Views: 1466
Re: MP's vote
This was a proposed amendment by the Lib Dems to the football governance bill. It was adding 10 free to air premier league games plus the play-off finals and some others. Generally these amendments are a bit of grandstanding, so the proposer can say "they don't care about x", and normally get voted ...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 1:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Trawden Arms - Support Community Pubs
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2687
Re: The Trawden Arms - Support Community Pubs
I just met an old friend at a pub very near Kings cross station in London....he and other locals did the same thing, it's doing very well... King Charles the first it's called...nice crowd. I was just saying to a couple of mates yesterday that this is the best pub near Kings Cross. In a similar vei...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Take me home, pothole roads.
- Replies: 41
- Views: 3082
Re: Take me home, pothole roads.
It doesn't help either with the sheer weight (and size, though that's a topic for another discussion) of the cars on the roads today - road tax should also be influenced by curb weight. Take the electric BMW iX, which has a curb weight of around 2,500 kg. Typical cars made 20 years ago rarely had a...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill
- Replies: 269
- Views: 35510
Re: Brownhill
To be honest, if I was already a millionaire and was being offered millions to play at a very good standard any offer to go to Toronto would be way down the list. Setting aside people always want more money I can see the temptation. Toronto are on a bit of a poor run at the moment and are planning ...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we had investment?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5113
Re: Have we had investment?
Interesting. Trafford sale wouldnt actually gain us that much whilst sale of Costelloe and Massenga would be pure psr profit...... Yes, that's why clubs are so keen on selling youth players. Also why you get weird inflated deals like Maatsen's where a youth player goes the other way for £20m or so ...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 11:19 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we had investment?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5113
Re: Have we had investment?
Oops, misplaced my decimal point.
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:26 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we had investment?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5113
Re: Have we had investment?
No they won't. Revenue from sales is recognised at the time of the transaction.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Wed Jul 09, 2025 10:09 amCan’t say we are due 90m in sales then in the latest accounts because those fees will be spread to
I'm not talking about cash, I'm talking about PSR which is based on accounting treatment.
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we had investment?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5113
Re: Have we had investment?
We have spent best part of 60m this summer that will be factored into technically last seasons accounts Well kind of. Costs of signings are spread over their contract. If you look at someone like Humphreys who we paid £10m for on a 4 year contract at the start of July (not exact figures/dates) then...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:53 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we had investment?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5113
Re: Have we had investment?
Any monies that will come into our club will most likely be as a result of required owner cash input on PSR losses disguised as loan repayments like we saw in the last accounts EFL - £13m allowable loss requires £10m owner cash input PL - £35m allowable loss requires £30m owner cash input Loan repa...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we had investment?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5113
Re: Have we had investment?
We had a lot of sales, ~ £90m, at the end of last season (that didn't get reflected in last year's accounts as they happened after) that will significantly bump up the profit for 24/25. One big sale this summer plus a raft of smaller sales/loan fees will add even more to that. We've not spent massiv...
- Tue Jul 08, 2025 10:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill
- Replies: 269
- Views: 35510
Re: Brownhill
I’ve heard absolutely nothing other than SSN yesterday saying he’s considering his options Come on Tony, that's not how you do this. You need to present something outrageous as fact. We've offered him £150k a week and the hand of Pace's first born in marriage. Or maybe you've heard he's signing for...
- Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5371
- Views: 637718
Re: Summer transfer window
You would not be alone, I would have him back too. These are Ipswich stats with and without Muric, despite how much the fans attack him: * With Muric - 18 appearances * 12 points * 6 draws * 33 conceeded * 3 wins * Without Muric 20 games * 10 points * 4 draws * 49 conceeded * 2 wins So they were fa...
- Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5371
- Views: 637718
Re: Summer transfer window
He can keep Tuanzebe company at leastagreenwood wrote: ↑Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:10 pmAny club signing Wilson would be crazy if they didn’t heavily incentivise his ability to stay fit in the contract. He’s 33 now and he’s missed over 100 games in the last 5 seasons with an assortment of injuries…
- Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill
- Replies: 269
- Views: 35510
- Mon Jul 07, 2025 11:12 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kierby hotel sold
- Replies: 410
- Views: 35661
Re: Kierby hotel sold
An aquatic visitor centre is just what the town needs, everyone knows the strong affinity Burnley people have for the sea, evidenced by the high percentage of speedboat owners the area boasts. Fair do's to the new owners though, Keirby has needed sorting for some considerable. A lot of Bullseye win...
- Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37201
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I’m with you completely about the commercial rationale - I can’t see them either. And money aside I just do not believe in the whole concept of multi club ownerships and in particular the feeder club scenarios. My point was really more about your description of these types of investors !! I suspect...