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by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 661
Views: 28064

Re: Access for home fans

I think what naffs people off is the whining before they've even experienced something. As shows with this thread, there were absolutely no problems at the game. People claiming people are going to die etc is massively over the top. I understand there'll be an odd person it affects if they are stru...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 661
Views: 28064

Re: Access for home fans

The 2 are not connected, we've seen enough evidence of the FAB to reach a definitive conclusion Course you have. The FAB criticisms just show ignorance in my opinion. Course they have to sign NDA’s. It’s standard procedure with something like that. Same was the case for previous versions. It helps ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Aug 21, 2025 3:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 661
Views: 28064

Re: Access for home fans

Nope, I just don't lead a intensely negative life. Will see how it is tomorrow. I already leave the north stand and go down the path along the memorial garden so my route doesnt change. Be interested to see if it's impacted or not before handing my season ticket back or whatever people are threaten...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 661
Views: 28064

Re: Access for home fans

GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:29 pm
We don't know if it's better yet. Nobody does. We've not tried it
Better in relation to getting the best part of 14,000 people through a ~7m gap in a short period of time. Are you being deliberately obtuse?
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 661
Views: 28064

Re: Access for home fans

Just to be clear, I don't agree with the changes, but there's a lot of over reaction, people calling it the gate of death etc etc A lot of football grounds have bottlenecks, with far more fans going through than at turf moor. Old Trafford is a real pain if you exit behind the scoreboard end, then m...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Aug 21, 2025 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 661
Views: 28064

Re: Access for home fans

I don't park up there, but I know that a lot do. The route through the memorial gardens onto Holcombe Drive and joining Belvedere Road is about 435m longer than it is from the west side of the JH stand and walking up Ormerod Yard. That's a fair bit of extra distance that can't exactly be walked qui...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Aug 21, 2025 12:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Summer 2025 BFC Transfer Window - Links and discussion on the Linked player only.
Replies: 1411
Views: 240980

Re: Summer 2025 BFC Transfer Window - Links and discussion on the Linked player only.

The squad place argument is an odd one anyway. You don’t want a big squad of players who think they should be playing regardless of age. I’d imagine if Burnley had a squad of 25 senior players, plus young players good enough to be in around the team, and we were losing a lot of games, then morale in...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 661
Views: 28064

Re: Access for home fans

I think part of the problem here is those involved in the decision never vacate Turf Moor immediately after the game. I don’t even think they realise how congested it was whichever way you went with both exits from the perimeter to the north west and south east narrowing. They’ve effectively made it...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Aug 20, 2025 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Russell Martin
Replies: 16
Views: 2834

Re: Russell Martin

Casper2 wrote:
Wed Aug 20, 2025 11:17 am
At least someone loves him (himself)
To be fair, he's also got Lucy Pinder, so whatever's going on at Rangers he's winning.
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New Layout of Cricket Field
Replies: 215
Views: 16256

Re: New Layout of Cricket Field

Congestion has been a problem at the ground after games for some time now, which was made even worse when they started fencing in all the media vehicles. Somewhere in the region of 16,000 people have had to disperse from the ground footprint through 2 reasonably narrow exits. For some time I’ve felt...
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last “ good” song for a player ??
Replies: 22
Views: 952

Re: Last “ good” song for a player ??

I think it should be immediately be dismissed as being a good song, if it's just a rip off of a song another set of fans did for their player.
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A week on an NHS Ward
Replies: 110
Views: 5041

Re: A week on an NHS Ward

Too many managers and executives on £100k plus, bleeding the system of what it actually needs, simple as that. I left the NHS in 1989, and it was bad then. Having had several hospital stays in the time since, it hasn't got any better looking in from the outside. Needs sacking off and starting again...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we had investment?
Replies: 51
Views: 5268

Re: Have we had investment?

Was it not that we needed to be in profit (20m) at the end of July which would be classed as our championship season You're right, I've found the article. It was in the context of how much clubs could afford to lose in the last tax year, which for most clubs runs to 30th June, but for us is 31st Ju...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we had investment?
Replies: 51
Views: 5268

Re: Have we had investment?

Maybe I misunderstood. The article I read in The Athletic seemed to be talking about each clubs spending power for the coming season.
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we had investment?
Replies: 51
Views: 5268

Re: Have we had investment?

Worth noting that if the rumours are to be believed we need to make a profit this season to comply with PSR. So even if Elon Musk bought us out, we'd still not be able to spend any more this season. Fees will slightly be inflated, as we're on a new TV deal, so apart from transfer income I'd imagine ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Best chippy East Lancs area
Replies: 82
Views: 5935

Re: Best chippy East Lancs area

Few mentions for Kelbrook earlier. It’s actually been best part of 20 years since it was top notch. The couple running it left in 2007 to set up Banny’s. Their replacements weren’t too bad, but when they weren’t as successful as the previous owners they started taking short cuts and the food went do...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Home KIt 2025/26
Replies: 189
Views: 12481

Re: Home KIt 2025/26

A lot of people whinging about colour, think in many cases it's just their perception of the colour. Have a look what colour claret really is. It is the colour of our kits from a bygone era. Do a google search of Burnley kits since they started becoming a 'fashion' thing in the 80's/90's and I recko...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Home KIt 2025/26
Replies: 189
Views: 12481

Re: Home KIt 2025/26

ChrisG wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:02 am
Is it not the Nick o' Pendle?
My first thoughts as well, especially with being so easily accessible from the road.
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parking Leeds GI v Train from Skipton
Replies: 22
Views: 1438

Re: Parking Leeds GI v Train from Skipton

That's an excellent shout, thanks CC. It's a separate topic, but it would be ace if they reopened the Colne to Skipton line Might not be as easy for you, as when I go in I'm on the 5:50am train, but I always park in the village. There's usually plenty of places for me at that time where I'm not bei...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parking Leeds GI v Train from Skipton
Replies: 22
Views: 1438

Re: Parking Leeds GI v Train from Skipton

Thanks everyone for the input, much appreciated! I'm taking my mother over today, so will probably drive and use the Woodhouse car park as suggested, then when I'm visiting and travelling alone, train from Skipton looks like best bet. If you don't mind country roads, turn off at Elslack and go over...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Competing at Prem level - Whats changed?
Replies: 46
Views: 3239

Re: Competing at Prem level - Whats changed?

Kieran Maguire has just said on Talksport that the FFP rules mean that established Premier League clubs are allowed to make a loss of £105M (last 3 years in the PL @ £35M pa) this year and remain within the rules as each season in the PL in the last 3 years permits you to lose £35M. A Championship ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Competing at Prem level - Whats changed?
Replies: 46
Views: 3239

Re: Competing at Prem level - Whats changed?

I think there’s a couple of things that have happened. The basket case clubs have all but disappeared, at least for the time being. The two main ones last year are so big that even having awful seasons wouldn’t see them as true relegation candidates. Everton are the only other that spring to mind, a...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The end of conversations
Replies: 47
Views: 3868

Re: The end of conversations

This is 100% true. I, as someone who recognises this still find it difficult to not end up stuck on it. I regularly need to check my emails and consciously beforehand tell myself - JUST Check the email. an hour later i am down a rabbit hole. Social media tailored to target you with **** you dont th...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley
Replies: 200
Views: 14958

Re: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley

According to any info I've found he was the 4th lowest earner in our entire squad. I'm surprised we didn't give him a pay rise once he had become an established 1st teamer. Its a difficult balancing act. We already have a bloated squad which brings issues with things like PSR. He's a player that wa...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Jun 09, 2025 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Closing The Gap…
Replies: 36
Views: 3827

Re: Closing The Gap…

You can’t underestimate the importance of fixtures as well. You still have to take advantage, but winnable games early on makes a huge difference. You don’t want to be playing catch up. The same goes for your rivals, you want them to have a nightmare start. As mentioned above, that happened to Wolve...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon May 19, 2025 11:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A Turf Moor anthem needed- ideas?
Replies: 130
Views: 9870

Re: A Turf Moor anthem needed- ideas?

There are a lot of middle aged to elderly men in this thread telling people what songs they like and what might have previously got the crowd going decades prior, but not necessarily will fit the bill nowadays. As much as I like some of these suggestions, they are catering for a particular demograp...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue May 06, 2025 1:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tarkowski _MNF
Replies: 56
Views: 4974

Re: Tarkowski _MNF

It shows how many ins and outs we've had in the last couple of years when you completely forget about players like Al Dakhil. I thought he was going to be the real gem of the Kompany era. The farcical management of him last year really hurt him. The poor lad was hung out to dry against top quality ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue May 06, 2025 8:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A Turf Moor anthem needed- ideas?
Replies: 130
Views: 9870

Re: A Turf Moor anthem needed- ideas?

You can’t force this kind of thing. It has to be natural. When you look at the songs people associate with “club anthem”, the song was popular at the time it started, or the artist is local singing about the area. Most of the time, the fans still sing the original lyrics as well. Times Like These is...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cashless Society
Replies: 81
Views: 5766

Re: Cashless Society

ATM machines are no good for all the change though. I'm just going off arguments I've seen in remote tourist towns which feel they have no choice but to go to cashless.
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The play offs
Replies: 22
Views: 3330

Re: The play offs

Play offs don't sit well with a lot of people, but if anything they're becoming more of a necessity at our level. Becoming increasingly difficult to see teams not in receipt of parachute payments finish in the top 3, so at least play offs open up some kid of merit based lottery. I've recently been t...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cashless Society
Replies: 81
Views: 5766

Re: Cashless Society

I know of decent sized towns that don't have a bank. From a business point of view, if your bank is an hours drive away, plus the inconvenience of parking in large town, then taking cash is a huge hassle that many small businesses can now do without.
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 175
Views: 16117

Re: Amdouni

I agree with your assessment but not really the cause because our points per game significantly improved in the second half of the season and Kompany did significantly adapt his tactics to achieve that. As well as big personnel improvements in January, of course. We were getting creditable draws ag...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parker - In or Out
Replies: 593
Views: 44429

Re: Parker - In or Out

I am not ready to eat the whole humble pie because I feel he has done what I expected him to do. I will judge him on how he handles the inbalances of the Premier League next season. But massive credit where it is due he has proved me wrong in how I felt about him as a person and as a man manager. S...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: EFL awards
Replies: 82
Views: 7719

Re: EFL awards

Each to there own, but I thought he was playing the quarterback role that Beckham did when he was coming up to retirement, which is the reason he was constantly available as he was sitting deep. His quality on the ball cannot be questioned, but he didn't look like he'd be getting from box-to-box fo...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jamie Vardy
Replies: 37
Views: 3963

Re: Jamie Vardy

I'm sure we were interested in signing him but not sure to what extent we "missed out on him". Fleetwood had a massive non-league budget before they were promoted to the FL. They had a budget comparable to League Two / League One and maybe even before they reached the Conference. I'm fuzzy on it bu...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Five Points Clear
Replies: 81
Views: 10758

Re: Five Points Clear

Sheffield United have been on the floor this week after their recent results. The last thing we want to be doing is lifting their spirits. Keeping level headed if tomorrow doesn't go to plan is fine, but our players need to approach the game as if its must win. I think Sheff Utd win tomorrow evening...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dominant centre back.
Replies: 48
Views: 4247

Re: Dominant centre back.

Lets say we go up AND keep CJ and Esteve. I think with Humphreys coming back in at left back, there's an argument that bring in a 6 foot right back, and that gives you plenty of height at the back. I have said for the last few months that there's an issue (albeit minor) that neither of our excellent...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dominant centre back.
Replies: 48
Views: 4247

Re: Dominant centre back.

How many set pieces do we have to defend though? We will give away far more corners next season if we are to get promoted, just from having less dominance/possession in games. I wouldn't be surprised if we play a back three in the PL, with a towering lad in the middle of CJ and Esteve. it's a fair ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Five Points Clear
Replies: 81
Views: 10758

Re: Five Points Clear

Watford are 9 points off the play-offs with 4 to go. They're 14 points above the drop so they're guaranteed Championship football for next season. They're as close as we can get to a club with nothing to play for. If we avoid defeat at Watford it makes things really difficult for Sheffield United. ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dominant centre back.
Replies: 48
Views: 4247

Re: Dominant centre back.

Is there a youngish centre back out there who can dominate aerial challenges ( a Jake Cooper 'type') who is also a talented footballer, anywhere in Europe? At the moment, our 2/3 talented centre backs, don't win enough aerial challenges in either box. In open play, we seem to manage, but at set pie...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time
Replies: 202
Views: 12634

Re: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time

It depends at what time those points were made. We have spent a lot more time out of the top 2 than our 2 rivals. I think there were also a lot more fortunate results earlier in the season than in the latter parts of the season, and I think that's backed up by stats like xg, thought haven't the time...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time
Replies: 202
Views: 12634

Re: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time

Why have you ignored the main point addressing this, being that the team had to learn the system thoroughly, and we had to build from the back? Just as we did under Dyche. We did not have the firepower to blow teams away and expose our backline, we'd have been nowhere near compared to where we are ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time
Replies: 202
Views: 12634

Re: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time

Odd thread to bump. 1) We’ve improved in the goal scoring department since it was posted. 2) If everyone waited until they had the benefit of a full season to form an opinion, this board would have very few posts on it. 3) The season isn’t over yet. I hope the bumper hasn’t jinxed us and given the ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9848

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

All games could be seen as "must win" games, but in reality all we have to do is match Sheff Utd's results... not a bad place to be in. I'm not usually one for using 'must win', but tonight if think it's more about the psychology. The players may see that they missed a chance of pulling clear on Tu...
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9848

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

Another round of games ticked off. Our draw at Derby another great example of why it's not a great time to be facing relegation threatened teams, whilst Sheff Utd's result at home to Millwall shows you can drop points anywhere and these figures are all a load of nonsense. Our game tonight looks to b...
by ChorltonCharlie
Sun Apr 06, 2025 11:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9848

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

Yesterday’s results show why I came up with this. Games against teams battling relegation at this stage of the season are a lot tougher than they would have been a couple of months ago. After yesterday, on places Leeds now have the slightly easier run in, with a score of 31. We have 29, Sheffield Un...
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9848

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

Latest on this, going off what is a fluid situation. We now have the least tricky run in based on teams fighting things, but it can change quickly. Remember, higher the score, the easier the run in as a high score for a game represents opposition that's got a lot less 'jeopardy' in the game. Based o...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Talksport now
Replies: 117
Views: 9206

Re: Talksport now

Nobody touted that, you've created an opinion to disagree with. It was an example of something we could do theoretically which would fit into the idea of a moneyball approach. We can get into semantics about me using the word touted, but 4 times before I posted you suggested Mee as a signing, and i...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Talksport now
Replies: 117
Views: 9206

Re: Talksport now

Some opinions are quite scary. Seeing Ben Mee touted as a replacement for Esteve is just barmy. Esteve is arguably a better quality of player than Mee ever was, and Mee is closing in on 36 and has hardly played this season. Mee was a superb servant for this club and was a cracking player in a setup ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Talksport now
Replies: 117
Views: 9206

Re: Talksport now

I think there’s a lot of ‘hot takes’ when it comes to both the difference in standards and our performance last season. The gap is getting wider, but it hasn’t suddenly turned into wide chasm. I’ve said before, that too many teams fall for the supposed solution of spending a fortune. I think though ...