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by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we had investment?
Replies: 51
Views: 5072

Re: Have we had investment?

Was it not that we needed to be in profit (20m) at the end of July which would be classed as our championship season You're right, I've found the article. It was in the context of how much clubs could afford to lose in the last tax year, which for most clubs runs to 30th June, but for us is 31st Ju...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we had investment?
Replies: 51
Views: 5072

Re: Have we had investment?

Maybe I misunderstood. The article I read in The Athletic seemed to be talking about each clubs spending power for the coming season.
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Have we had investment?
Replies: 51
Views: 5072

Re: Have we had investment?

Worth noting that if the rumours are to be believed we need to make a profit this season to comply with PSR. So even if Elon Musk bought us out, we'd still not be able to spend any more this season. Fees will slightly be inflated, as we're on a new TV deal, so apart from transfer income I'd imagine ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Best chippy East Lancs area
Replies: 82
Views: 5583

Re: Best chippy East Lancs area

Few mentions for Kelbrook earlier. It’s actually been best part of 20 years since it was top notch. The couple running it left in 2007 to set up Banny’s. Their replacements weren’t too bad, but when they weren’t as successful as the previous owners they started taking short cuts and the food went do...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Home KIt 2025/26
Replies: 188
Views: 11375

Re: Home KIt 2025/26

A lot of people whinging about colour, think in many cases it's just their perception of the colour. Have a look what colour claret really is. It is the colour of our kits from a bygone era. Do a google search of Burnley kits since they started becoming a 'fashion' thing in the 80's/90's and I recko...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Home KIt 2025/26
Replies: 188
Views: 11375

Re: Home KIt 2025/26

ChrisG wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:02 am
Is it not the Nick o' Pendle?
My first thoughts as well, especially with being so easily accessible from the road.
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parking Leeds GI v Train from Skipton
Replies: 22
Views: 1338

Re: Parking Leeds GI v Train from Skipton

That's an excellent shout, thanks CC. It's a separate topic, but it would be ace if they reopened the Colne to Skipton line Might not be as easy for you, as when I go in I'm on the 5:50am train, but I always park in the village. There's usually plenty of places for me at that time where I'm not bei...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parking Leeds GI v Train from Skipton
Replies: 22
Views: 1338

Re: Parking Leeds GI v Train from Skipton

Thanks everyone for the input, much appreciated! I'm taking my mother over today, so will probably drive and use the Woodhouse car park as suggested, then when I'm visiting and travelling alone, train from Skipton looks like best bet. If you don't mind country roads, turn off at Elslack and go over...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Competing at Prem level - Whats changed?
Replies: 46
Views: 3033

Re: Competing at Prem level - Whats changed?

Kieran Maguire has just said on Talksport that the FFP rules mean that established Premier League clubs are allowed to make a loss of £105M (last 3 years in the PL @ £35M pa) this year and remain within the rules as each season in the PL in the last 3 years permits you to lose £35M. A Championship ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Competing at Prem level - Whats changed?
Replies: 46
Views: 3033

Re: Competing at Prem level - Whats changed?

I think there’s a couple of things that have happened. The basket case clubs have all but disappeared, at least for the time being. The two main ones last year are so big that even having awful seasons wouldn’t see them as true relegation candidates. Everton are the only other that spring to mind, a...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The end of conversations
Replies: 47
Views: 3687

Re: The end of conversations

This is 100% true. I, as someone who recognises this still find it difficult to not end up stuck on it. I regularly need to check my emails and consciously beforehand tell myself - JUST Check the email. an hour later i am down a rabbit hole. Social media tailored to target you with **** you dont th...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley
Replies: 200
Views: 14103

Re: ARTICLE:Egan-Riley leaves Burnley

According to any info I've found he was the 4th lowest earner in our entire squad. I'm surprised we didn't give him a pay rise once he had become an established 1st teamer. Its a difficult balancing act. We already have a bloated squad which brings issues with things like PSR. He's a player that wa...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Jun 09, 2025 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Closing The Gap…
Replies: 36
Views: 3644

Re: Closing The Gap…

You can’t underestimate the importance of fixtures as well. You still have to take advantage, but winnable games early on makes a huge difference. You don’t want to be playing catch up. The same goes for your rivals, you want them to have a nightmare start. As mentioned above, that happened to Wolve...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon May 19, 2025 11:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A Turf Moor anthem needed- ideas?
Replies: 130
Views: 9194

Re: A Turf Moor anthem needed- ideas?

There are a lot of middle aged to elderly men in this thread telling people what songs they like and what might have previously got the crowd going decades prior, but not necessarily will fit the bill nowadays. As much as I like some of these suggestions, they are catering for a particular demograp...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue May 06, 2025 1:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tarkowski _MNF
Replies: 56
Views: 4729

Re: Tarkowski _MNF

It shows how many ins and outs we've had in the last couple of years when you completely forget about players like Al Dakhil. I thought he was going to be the real gem of the Kompany era. The farcical management of him last year really hurt him. The poor lad was hung out to dry against top quality ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue May 06, 2025 8:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A Turf Moor anthem needed- ideas?
Replies: 130
Views: 9194

Re: A Turf Moor anthem needed- ideas?

You can’t force this kind of thing. It has to be natural. When you look at the songs people associate with “club anthem”, the song was popular at the time it started, or the artist is local singing about the area. Most of the time, the fans still sing the original lyrics as well. Times Like These is...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cashless Society
Replies: 81
Views: 5462

Re: Cashless Society

ATM machines are no good for all the change though. I'm just going off arguments I've seen in remote tourist towns which feel they have no choice but to go to cashless.
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The play offs
Replies: 22
Views: 3281

Re: The play offs

Play offs don't sit well with a lot of people, but if anything they're becoming more of a necessity at our level. Becoming increasingly difficult to see teams not in receipt of parachute payments finish in the top 3, so at least play offs open up some kid of merit based lottery. I've recently been t...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cashless Society
Replies: 81
Views: 5462

Re: Cashless Society

I know of decent sized towns that don't have a bank. From a business point of view, if your bank is an hours drive away, plus the inconvenience of parking in large town, then taking cash is a huge hassle that many small businesses can now do without.
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 175
Views: 15293

Re: Amdouni

I agree with your assessment but not really the cause because our points per game significantly improved in the second half of the season and Kompany did significantly adapt his tactics to achieve that. As well as big personnel improvements in January, of course. We were getting creditable draws ag...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parker - In or Out
Replies: 593
Views: 42999

Re: Parker - In or Out

I am not ready to eat the whole humble pie because I feel he has done what I expected him to do. I will judge him on how he handles the inbalances of the Premier League next season. But massive credit where it is due he has proved me wrong in how I felt about him as a person and as a man manager. S...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: EFL awards
Replies: 82
Views: 7193

Re: EFL awards

Each to there own, but I thought he was playing the quarterback role that Beckham did when he was coming up to retirement, which is the reason he was constantly available as he was sitting deep. His quality on the ball cannot be questioned, but he didn't look like he'd be getting from box-to-box fo...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jamie Vardy
Replies: 37
Views: 3796

Re: Jamie Vardy

I'm sure we were interested in signing him but not sure to what extent we "missed out on him". Fleetwood had a massive non-league budget before they were promoted to the FL. They had a budget comparable to League Two / League One and maybe even before they reached the Conference. I'm fuzzy on it bu...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Five Points Clear
Replies: 81
Views: 10501

Re: Five Points Clear

Sheffield United have been on the floor this week after their recent results. The last thing we want to be doing is lifting their spirits. Keeping level headed if tomorrow doesn't go to plan is fine, but our players need to approach the game as if its must win. I think Sheff Utd win tomorrow evening...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dominant centre back.
Replies: 48
Views: 3958

Re: Dominant centre back.

Lets say we go up AND keep CJ and Esteve. I think with Humphreys coming back in at left back, there's an argument that bring in a 6 foot right back, and that gives you plenty of height at the back. I have said for the last few months that there's an issue (albeit minor) that neither of our excellent...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dominant centre back.
Replies: 48
Views: 3958

Re: Dominant centre back.

How many set pieces do we have to defend though? We will give away far more corners next season if we are to get promoted, just from having less dominance/possession in games. I wouldn't be surprised if we play a back three in the PL, with a towering lad in the middle of CJ and Esteve. it's a fair ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Five Points Clear
Replies: 81
Views: 10501

Re: Five Points Clear

Watford are 9 points off the play-offs with 4 to go. They're 14 points above the drop so they're guaranteed Championship football for next season. They're as close as we can get to a club with nothing to play for. If we avoid defeat at Watford it makes things really difficult for Sheffield United. ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dominant centre back.
Replies: 48
Views: 3958

Re: Dominant centre back.

Is there a youngish centre back out there who can dominate aerial challenges ( a Jake Cooper 'type') who is also a talented footballer, anywhere in Europe? At the moment, our 2/3 talented centre backs, don't win enough aerial challenges in either box. In open play, we seem to manage, but at set pie...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time
Replies: 202
Views: 12025

Re: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time

It depends at what time those points were made. We have spent a lot more time out of the top 2 than our 2 rivals. I think there were also a lot more fortunate results earlier in the season than in the latter parts of the season, and I think that's backed up by stats like xg, thought haven't the time...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time
Replies: 202
Views: 12025

Re: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time

Why have you ignored the main point addressing this, being that the team had to learn the system thoroughly, and we had to build from the back? Just as we did under Dyche. We did not have the firepower to blow teams away and expose our backline, we'd have been nowhere near compared to where we are ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time
Replies: 202
Views: 12025

Re: Our Lack of Goals is Killing Us Big Time

Odd thread to bump. 1) We’ve improved in the goal scoring department since it was posted. 2) If everyone waited until they had the benefit of a full season to form an opinion, this board would have very few posts on it. 3) The season isn’t over yet. I hope the bumper hasn’t jinxed us and given the ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9556

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

All games could be seen as "must win" games, but in reality all we have to do is match Sheff Utd's results... not a bad place to be in. I'm not usually one for using 'must win', but tonight if think it's more about the psychology. The players may see that they missed a chance of pulling clear on Tu...
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9556

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

Another round of games ticked off. Our draw at Derby another great example of why it's not a great time to be facing relegation threatened teams, whilst Sheff Utd's result at home to Millwall shows you can drop points anywhere and these figures are all a load of nonsense. Our game tonight looks to b...
by ChorltonCharlie
Sun Apr 06, 2025 11:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9556

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

Yesterday’s results show why I came up with this. Games against teams battling relegation at this stage of the season are a lot tougher than they would have been a couple of months ago. After yesterday, on places Leeds now have the slightly easier run in, with a score of 31. We have 29, Sheffield Un...
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Apr 04, 2025 8:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9556

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

Latest on this, going off what is a fluid situation. We now have the least tricky run in based on teams fighting things, but it can change quickly. Remember, higher the score, the easier the run in as a high score for a game represents opposition that's got a lot less 'jeopardy' in the game. Based o...
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Talksport now
Replies: 117
Views: 8888

Re: Talksport now

Nobody touted that, you've created an opinion to disagree with. It was an example of something we could do theoretically which would fit into the idea of a moneyball approach. We can get into semantics about me using the word touted, but 4 times before I posted you suggested Mee as a signing, and i...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Talksport now
Replies: 117
Views: 8888

Re: Talksport now

Some opinions are quite scary. Seeing Ben Mee touted as a replacement for Esteve is just barmy. Esteve is arguably a better quality of player than Mee ever was, and Mee is closing in on 36 and has hardly played this season. Mee was a superb servant for this club and was a cracking player in a setup ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Talksport now
Replies: 117
Views: 8888

Re: Talksport now

I think there’s a lot of ‘hot takes’ when it comes to both the difference in standards and our performance last season. The gap is getting wider, but it hasn’t suddenly turned into wide chasm. I’ve said before, that too many teams fall for the supposed solution of spending a fortune. I think though ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Mar 27, 2025 12:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret wins £1 million?
Replies: 7
Views: 2230

Re: Claret wins £1 million?

Daz is definitely a claret. He's from the West Craven area before he moved down to South Wales. Used to go with Earby Clarets. Fair play to him.
by ChorltonCharlie
Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9556

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

What an odd argument. Taking the pedantic side of it away, Coventry, Derby & Norwich is 3 games in 7 days. There's no argument on that, it's an absolute fact. 7 days, on which 3 of them have games. Describing Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday games as 3 games in 1 week is understandable as clearly 8 days ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9556

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

Coventry havent been playing that well?? They've won 10 out of thier last 12. Both us and Sheffield are going to find that a difficult game in the next couple of weeks. We have to stop the headers... thats how they score most of thier goals I'm well aware of their recent record, but there's a lot o...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche on Talksport today, 12-2
Replies: 158
Views: 11547

Re: Sean Dyche on Talksport today, 12-2

People talk about Dyche like he was a failure at Everton. Kept them up the first half a season. Kept them up again last year with all the deductions. Fair enough Moyes has come in and picked up some wins, but he's had a lot of critics over the years and was down right awful at Sunderland. A bad run ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9556

Re: The Run In - Jeopardy

Not sure why my post has been seen as a prediction by some. All it was is a simplistic way of looking at how 'easy' fixtures at this stage of the season can be far from easy. Some people are suggesting our fixtures are by far the toughest. Not sure how that works out. Below the top 4 is mediocrity. ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Run In - Jeopardy
Replies: 98
Views: 9556

The Run In - Jeopardy

Keep seeing that we’ve got the toughest run in, so thought I’d look at it from a different angle. Personally I reckon that at this stage of the season, playing top half team at home who are out of the play off running is an easier game that playing a team fighting relegation at home. Clearly not an ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On track for
Replies: 50
Views: 5151

Re: On track for

Barnes wasn’t getting in the Norwich team. Foster was injured for 3 months & Champ record leaves a fair bit to be desired. Benson injured for 6 months. Sarmiento was not rated at West Brom. Anthony I guess so but even he had just 1 goal in 31 sub appearances for Leeds last season. Think you are 1. ...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On track for
Replies: 50
Views: 5151

Re: On track for

Unfortunately he was dealt a completely new set of cards after that and he's absolutely done his best to get the maximum from the them, knowing their limitations . What limitations? Flemming, Barnes, Edwards, Foster, Koleosho, Benson, Anthony, Sarmiento, Brownhill. All in the matchday squad on Tues...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On track for
Replies: 50
Views: 5151

Re: On track for

I appreciate your view point but what I would say is that if this is by design and we hit whatever point target Parker set. Likely 2 per game. Then imo we have not fallen short, we have been beaten by two teams that will have had extraordinary seasons to beat us. I know that people won't like it bu...
by ChorltonCharlie
Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On track for
Replies: 50
Views: 5151

Re: On track for

There's still a question mark over whether our lack of attacking impetus in many games is down to flaws in Parker's management style (or maybe the coach recruited to work with him) or whether it's by design never to push for winning goals and trust in the system. Either way its seriously undermining...
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O\T roadworks/ temporary traffic lights
Replies: 431
Views: 52438

Re: O\T roadworks/ temporary traffic lights

Yeah, I'm hoping NH is right and someone's had a word and mentioned it would be daft to start tonight and they've delayed it until tomorrow. Just needs a bit of common sense. if it does start tonight, they could just put the start back by 30-60 mins.
by ChorltonCharlie
Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O\T roadworks/ temporary traffic lights
Replies: 431
Views: 52438

Re: O\T roadworks/ temporary traffic lights

Aye, but Wednesday 20:00, starts at 8pm on Wednesday.