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- Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I think that’s impossible under the rules. I'm sure it's not. As we well know, it is permissible for the owners to withdraw £100m from the club and force the club to borrow money and pay swingeing interest to fund it. If that's legal to the extent they have already done it, then it is certainly leg...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:44 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley to play in the National League Cup
- Replies: 31
- Views: 2382
Re: ARTICLE: Burnley to play in the National League Cup
I never object to a trip to Morecambe. Hope it's sunny. (And that Morecambe FC still exists.)
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Yet all the finance experts on here can’t provide a single bit of evidence to show that Alan Pace has personally gained. I’ve tried to say let’s not make the thread go off but people are carrying it on I doubt I could prove that Richard Branson has personally gained from the ownership of Virgin Gro...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Massengo moves to the Bundesliga
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2251
Re: ARTICLE: Massengo moves to the Bundesliga
World's gone mad. That's the going rate for a Championship reserve player?
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
The rest of us can pick up lots of clues from the financial information available. You're the only one that hasn't a clue.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:45 pmSo you can’t show me anything that shows he is personally gaining anything so you have as much clue as me and anyone else
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Massengo moves to the Bundesliga
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2251
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
That doesn’t show money going directly to Alan Pace though does it, as I have said I don’t want to make the thread move away from the actual subject, ALK investment group will benefit like majority of us ownership groups but nobody can factually say Alan Pace is personally benefiting What's your po...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
It’s certainly an interesting development. Investors into Velocity will be more attracted to the idea of a portfolio of clubs, than just Burnley. I do wonder if, when trying to find new investors, they’ve not found it very easy, and this move should / could make it more attractive. Of course, more ...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:32 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Choose your favourite away win in the Premier League
- Replies: 35
- Views: 1372
Re: ARTICLE: Choose your favourite away win in the Premier League
I'd like to vote for the win at Manchester City in September 2025, with Walker scoring a stunning winner near the end. Keep the poll open ... 
In the meantime, I've gone for Chelsea, though I was tempted with Hull 4-1 because it was fun and I was there.

In the meantime, I've gone for Chelsea, though I was tempted with Hull 4-1 because it was fun and I was there.
- Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Blind trusts are always fictional. Rich people do not entrust control of their riches to third parties.
- Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
It wasn't a problem Palace were likely to face - until it happened.forzagranata wrote: ↑Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:17 pmNo it would leave us in a very similar situation to Palace/Lyon should Burnley and Espanyol both qualify for the Europa League.
However, that's not a problem we are likely to face for a while I would imagine......

- Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:30 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Glen Chapple
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1666
Re: Glen Chapple
Looking at tonight's performance, a new bowling coach and a new catching coach are both needed.
- Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:28 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Palace demoted
- Replies: 32
- Views: 3155
Re: Palace demoted
If he has 43% then clearly he has "influence". If it meant a controlling interest, then it would have said that. Textor doesn't have any influence at all because he has sold his shares. The point UEFA are making is that he hadn't sold his shares as at 1st March 2025. The rule isn't that two clubs i...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 5:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill
- Replies: 269
- Views: 35477
Re: Brownhill
If there is an ounce of truth in that and it comes to fruition, then it's a real shame that this would be the extent of his footballing ambition. I don't know the lad personally of course, but from a footballing perspective he strikes me as someone who would much rather be playing at the very highe...
- Wed Jul 09, 2025 3:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TV Games per club 2025/26
- Replies: 29
- Views: 4479
Re: TV Games per club 2025/26
I see the promoted teams are at an average of 1 game each. 

- Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kierby hotel sold
- Replies: 410
- Views: 35656
Re: Kierby hotel sold
If it was a secret I wouldn’t know would I ? And neither would the person who told me. But I was told by someone working on the building now who knows the history of the building and i’m just taking the view that he told me in confidence. If anyone was to research it enough I’m guessing they would ...
- Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kierby hotel sold
- Replies: 410
- Views: 35656
Re: Kierby hotel sold
It's not in the public domain and you can't say what it is? That sounds like a secret to me. But if it's not a secret, what's the reason it can't be bulldozed? Put it into the public domain.
- Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill
- Replies: 269
- Views: 35477
Re: Brownhill
So we'll find out when they announce the team for the first game?Clive 1960 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:23 pmAnd i thought someone in the know heard he had signed but just waiting for the club to announce it![]()

- Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC have one of the top 5.....
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2617
Re: Burnley FC have one of the top 5.....
So we could sell 15 of them, repay the bank loans, and stop paying £20m a year interest and charges? 

- Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Hountondji goes out on loan
- Replies: 83
- Views: 6214
Re: ARTICLE: Hountondji goes out on loan
Loaning clubs always pay the wages (or a percentage of), then we get a loan fee on top. Amdouni’s was reported to be €4m loan fee, payable €2m up front and €2m when they didn’t take their option, for example. I think we got €3m one season for Weghorst. Depends how good they are, of course. If the w...
- Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill
- Replies: 269
- Views: 35477
Re: Brownhill
Saw the Toronto link. His call, but clearly a financial decision if that’s where he goes. He’ll be in a midfield alongside the colossus that is Matty Longstaff (last seen bouncing around League Two). Kevin Long will be behind him in defence tho, so there’s that. Unless money is irrelevant to him no...
- Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kierby hotel sold
- Replies: 410
- Views: 35656
Re: Kierby hotel sold
I can’t sorry - other than the person who told me would know this. I’m not sure how you could find out what this is without somebody telling you either as it would not be in the public domain. It’s been in place for a number of decades too. "He who wishes to keep a secret, must not let it be known ...
- Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
The only difference I note is that the stadium is more easily available for concerts and such like for those acts not quite big enough to fill mega stadiums - it's location helps on that front too - it is a good niche level size and the relationship with Ticketmaster could help on that front Recent...
- Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:38 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: David Dunn
- Replies: 34
- Views: 5310
Re: David Dunn
Had the displeasure of being behind him at Lytham Festival tonight- another claret had already spotted him and his mates giving it large. All clubs have their obnoxious element, much as we might wish them away. In what world is it fair and reasonable to be rude and aggressive to someone because twe...
- Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37057
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
The supposed US *investors*, including the rarely-mentioned Malcolm Jenkins, may well be 'sheltering' inside the LLC, but just wish ALK would reveal what %age of shares they acquired and if they actually paid for them. You expect corporate finance folk to create a pyramid of offshore trusts and hol...
- Thu Jul 03, 2025 2:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Home KIt 2025/26
- Replies: 188
- Views: 11482
Re: Home KIt 2025/26
It's only in Europe, these will still be relevant in their main marketing areas like the far east. Precisely. In Europe, governments have put in loads of checks and balances in an attempt to stop betting companies from ruining too many lives. (With an eye on not hitting tax take too much, of course...
- Thu Jul 03, 2025 2:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Clarets clinch Tchaouna deal
- Replies: 74
- Views: 7919
Re: ARTICLE: Clarets clinch Tchaouna deal
They're brilliant and a way of increasing our exposure when they are reshared or go viral. The world moves on from an old school photoshoot of players holding a scarf. Keep them coming. Other teams do it to. Can any of us even remember any other teams' signing videos? Let alone them influencing us ...
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Greatest last minute goal by any team
- Replies: 57
- Views: 3277
Re: Greatest last minute goal by any team
For Burnley, 2 injury time goals v. Shrewsbury, down to 10 men, with John Bond disguised as a steward at the back of the stand, is up there. Or in the 4th division Championship season, Conroy away to Northampton when we had doinated the game but let in a late equaliser and Conroy got the even later ...
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 8:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Greatest last minute goal by any team
- Replies: 57
- Views: 3277
Re: Greatest last minute goal by any team
Jimmy Glass for Carlisle.
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 2:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lucy Letby
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4214
Re: Lucy Letby
It is very true that the deaths of numerous babies really does matter. However, that does not mean that miscarriages of justice don't matter. If Letby is innocent, she shouldn't be kept in jail because the deaths of so many babies is tragic. On the contrary, ideally the causes of death of those babi...
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Clarets clinch Tchaouna deal
- Replies: 74
- Views: 7919
Re: ARTICLE: Clarets clinch Tchaouna deal
With a record of 15 goals in 110 matches, I hope he's been played more as a wide player than a centre forward!
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 12:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New banknotes
- Replies: 32
- Views: 1792
Re: New banknotes
It'll be dead people, with at least as many females as males. And it won't be Margaret Thatcher, and it probably won't be a suffragette. Rosamund Franklin might get on as the best-known female scientist.
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 12:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lucy Letby
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4214
Re: Lucy Letby
As were Timothy Evans, Derek Bentley, Stefan Klitschko, Andrew Malkinson, The Guildford Four, The Birmingham Six........ I'd leave Derek Bentley off the list. He may have been pardoned for his part in the armed robbery that lead to murder, but he was undoubtedly involved. The law may have been at f...
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 11:15 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season tickets
- Replies: 199
- Views: 17697
Re: Season tickets
Yes, I've emailed and they have confirmed my seat is safe. But they've admitted they've absolutely no idea what has gone on with payments apparently someone else has been paying for me... At least it can be resolved eh! Which means that someone who believes they have paid for their own season ticke...
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Home KIt 2025/26
- Replies: 188
- Views: 11482
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wimbledon
- Replies: 59
- Views: 3615
Re: Wimbledon 2025
Some very close and exciting matches so far, well worth watching. I still feel that 2 sets are too few and 5 sets are too many - why not a minimum of 3 sets and a maximum of 4 sets. If it’s 2 sets all then (instead of a fifth set) play first to 20 points tiebreak. To win the fifth set in normal ten...
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lucy Letby
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4214
Re: Lucy Letby
The problem with the statistics, for those that haven't been following them, is that the prosecution only looked for those statistics that support their case. They looked at the deaths of all babies that might be suspicious, and worked out which ones died when Letby was on duty. They categorised the...
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lucy Letby
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4214
Re: Lucy Letby
I think the defence of LL are focusing on one small part of the evidence, as to create doubt in the rest of the evidence. One fact you can’t deny is that after Letby ceased working on the wards of the three hospitals, the mortality rates have dropped to the average death rate, from being extremely ...
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 5:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lucy Letby
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4214
Re: Lucy Letby
Or Sally Clark. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark#:~:text=Sally%20Clark%20(n%C3%A9e%20Lockyer%2C%2015,of%20her%20two%20infant%20sons. She was convicted largely on the basis of bogus statistics, with an idiot prosecutor coming up with a false figure because he didn't know what he was talking ...
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 4:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Raducanu
- Replies: 48
- Views: 6787
Re: Raducanu
Yes, she's the one who turns 80 next week. (Thursday 10th.)
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Raducanu
- Replies: 48
- Views: 6787
Re: Raducanu
I thought I had 4 of them (including Raducanu) but you say 5 will be over 80? I had Heather Watson and the Murray brothers making up 4 of those 8. Singles, sorry. If it was doubles there would be another Murray, John Lloyd, numerous others. Sue Barker, Andy Murray, Emma Raducanu are the three under...
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lucy Letby
- Replies: 52
- Views: 4214
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Raducanu
- Replies: 48
- Views: 6787
Re: Raducanu
To me, just the epitome of the way sport has gone. It's all about the money. Media fawning all over her because of her looks not because she has been really successful. Did someone mention Chesney? There are only 8 living Britons who have won any Grand Slam tennis tournament, and by the end of Wimb...
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:20 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Raducanu
- Replies: 48
- Views: 6787
- Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Beyer
- Replies: 100
- Views: 12983
Re: Bayer
Have no fear. As any lip reader could tell, just before he starts limping you can see Ashley Barnes tell him "if you want another 50 posts on your UpTheClarets thread, put on a limp". 

- Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: KIT LEAK
- Replies: 80
- Views: 7457
- Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: KIT LEAK
- Replies: 80
- Views: 7457
- Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lancashire League Weekend Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 4194
Re: Lancashire League Weekend Thread
And another win for the mighty Colne. Colne made 235-6 which was too many for Church who could only manage 234-9.
Exciting, but late, finish. Depending on the last ball, colne could have finished with 5, 7, 9, 10 or 12 points.
Exciting, but late, finish. Depending on the last ball, colne could have finished with 5, 7, 9, 10 or 12 points.
- Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ''Seafood seafood''
- Replies: 41
- Views: 2787
Re: ''Seafood seafood''
Albatross! Albatross!
- Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tresor
- Replies: 167
- Views: 17688
Re: Tresor
He wouldn't be the first manager. I'm more inclined to believe a series of circumstancial events that all seem to fall into place & make sense to me. It doesn't make sense why Ajax would try to pursue a loan deal for somebody who's supposedly poorly & recovering from this alleged operation. It does...