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- Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2025/26: Tottenham Hotspur V Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 46
- Views: 1343
Re: 2025/26: Tottenham Hotspur V Burnley – Ticket Information
Definitely 3pm on the Saturday. To avoid having to pay for all the 900, the Club would have only needed to sell 451 (50%). Thanks. So the club only have to sell 50% to avoid paying for the full amount? In that case, more surprised. Do feel 2,500 would be a very good following mid-summer though.
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2025/26: Tottenham Hotspur V Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 46
- Views: 1343
Re: 2025/26: Tottenham Hotspur V Burnley – Ticket Information
Got to be honest, I am not so surprised we went with 2,100. I’m not so sure we’d have sold the extra 900 at this time of year.
Is this definitely locked down for the Saturday now? No chance of it changing at all? Need to sort transport.
Is this definitely locked down for the Saturday now? No chance of it changing at all? Need to sort transport.
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5370
- Views: 637302
Re: Summer transfer window
Agree. And if those Oscar Bobb rumours are true, it could help there?Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:05 pmideal scenario for us if City come back for him, like it or not the better the relationship we have with City the better imho.
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5370
- Views: 637302
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5370
- Views: 637302
Re: Summer transfer window
Always thought City would come back for Trafford.
Very glad we’re not paying that fee for Sargent.
Very glad we’re not paying that fee for Sargent.
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New stand.
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1490
Re: New stand.
We do.randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:50 pmWhen we play games on the top pitches , U21s or friendlies for example, dont we generally use the other, grass pitch ?
Planning statement says this is exclusively for players and staff, but in reality I think it’s for parents watching the younger Academy games/training.
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New stand.
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1490
Re: New stand.
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:31 pmLooks smart and fulfils it's purpose.
EDIT - I do wish it was 170+ seats though.

- Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New stand.
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1490
Re: New stand.
I’d have preferred something a little bit less black and steely given its beautiful setting in the countryside but well done to the club for continuing to invest in the Academy facilities and training ground generally. Great to see.
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New stand.
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1490
Re: New stand.
It’s to go on the side of the 3G for spectators of the academy games.
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3502
Re: BFC partnership with X
I believe in general people feel more comfortable on insta than x tik-tok has the club's biggest following and a lot of that is down to the work that the women's team do Interestingly RCD Espanyol are miles ahead on social media followers overall - though not on x or insta = face book, you tube and...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
you are being triggered by the number 65 only it is euros not sterling The structure is quite different with the only similarity being a ringfence on non-acquired shareholding with a fixed price for a transfer at a future date If Garlick was involved in Velocity the acquisition of Cheltenham would ...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3502
Re: BFC partnership with X
so today @BurnleyOfficial has 823.5k followers - the follower growth has greatly slowed across social media for the club in the last 18 months - it will be interesting to see if this gives way to a new surge as far as the deal goes it feels like an experiment by X and will be interesting to see jus...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: SWEAT, Sun & Squad Games | PRE-SEASON 2025 | DAY THREE
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1135
Re: SWEAT, Sun & Squad Games | PRE-SEASON 2025 | DAY THREE
Spotted both keeper coaches on the latest video mate. However it did look like Flemming and Tuanzebe aren’t training with the group The day three one mate? Or is there a day four? I can’t keep up?! Good news on those guys too (the coaches - shame about Flemming & Tuanzebe, I hope that’s nothing ser...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3502
Re: BFC partnership with X
Not a huge fan of Musk himself, I just worry about his sanity legitimately. But I’m glad the club has made this deal. More exposure on an app with a huge audience can only help the club. But it’s labeled a partnership… what’s in it for X? Are we paying them or are they hoping the massive worldwide ...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: BFC partnership with X
- Replies: 128
- Views: 3502
Re: BFC partnership with X
Quite surprised we’ve not developed the partnership with TikTok given I thought that’s what all the kids used. Also quite shocked that this is just with XUK. I would’ve thought there’s limited benefit to the club in increasing engagement in the UK. It’s increasing reach abroad I’d think we could dri...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:26 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 197
- Views: 5071
Re: UEFA European Women's Championship
I think that a tournament which is receiving this amount of media coverage, broadcast on national TV etc should be of a higher standard. You are, in essence, suggesting that it may as well be Soccer Aid when it's meant to be a professional sport at the highest level. Of course, one can be entertain...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 197
- Views: 5071
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 197
- Views: 5071
Re: UEFA European Women's Championship
Suppose an element of comparison is inevitable if you watch a lot of the same sport As said it is possible to enjoy both men’s and women’s football or to just enjoy one of these or one more than the other etc…..no wrong answer here ! There’s also nothing wrong at all with the increased attention an...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 197
- Views: 5071
Re: UEFA European Women's Championship
no issue with inclusivity, but its a spectacle that once the mainstream media decided was worthy of trumpeting, we as a potential audience are expected to elavate it into normality. the reality is it is weak and insipid. free tickets and BBC obsession cant paper over this . It should grow naturally...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:23 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: UEFA European Women's Championship
- Replies: 197
- Views: 5071
Re: UEFA European Women's Championship
If your enjoyment of sport is solely about the quality on display, you’ll be forever disappointed with women’s football. They’ll never be as good as men. I can still enjoy a game of amateur football, kids football, women’s tennis, an F2 race or a Championship game, even though the levels are way bel...
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: SWEAT, Sun & Squad Games | PRE-SEASON 2025 | DAY THREE
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1135
Re: SWEAT, Sun & Squad Games | PRE-SEASON 2025 | DAY THREE
Thanks 123, good news.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:56 pmMike Jackson was in the pool in one of group of photos the club put out
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: SWEAT, Sun & Squad Games | PRE-SEASON 2025 | DAY THREE
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1135
Re: SWEAT, Sun & Squad Games | PRE-SEASON 2025 | DAY THREE
Tony - are all the coaching staff known to us in these videos? There are a few faces I don’t recognise. I haven’t seen the GK coach or Mike Jackson. Would be particularly disappointed not to see Jackson as part of the set up next season :( I know you said that there will be some changes to the set u...
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hartman Reflects On TOUGH Pre-Season & One Month Till The Premier League Starts | INTERVIEW
- Replies: 26
- Views: 883
Re: Hartman Reflects On TOUGH Pre-Season & One Month Till The Premier League Starts | INTERVIEW
I don't disagree but think we need to remember it's possible that the interviewer sees these comments Agree. I’m all for improving what we produce in terms of media content but don’t think we should dig out to the individual presenters, who probably do a fantastic job across a number of roles in a ...
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5370
- Views: 637302
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5370
- Views: 637302
Re: Summer transfer window
Who would you loan though? I'd only want to loan someone if they had the possibility of being a useful player for us in the future- if not we need to sell them. So they have to be not good enough for us but good enough for them, and also possibly of use to us in the future. Ramsey maybe? I can't se...
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5370
- Views: 637302
Re: Summer transfer window
Alan Pace is one of our scouting team123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:19 pmAlan Pace is in Portugal, watch the latest YouTube video at the game they are playing at the end, he’s involved, so the bed wetters can relax about him and the scouting team being in Barcelona

I wasn’t worried but I am now…
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5370
- Views: 637302
Re: Summer transfer window
Me too. If anything, I am a bit surprised there weren’t a few loans lined up to go straight to Espanyol.Guller Bull wrote: ↑Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:14 pmI'm expecting far more news on departures than arrivals to be honest.
- Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Summer transfer window
- Replies: 5370
- Views: 637302
Re: Summer transfer window
I cannot believe we’re having this conversation five days after our last signing! Are we expecting a new arrival every 1-2 days else assuming the club are distracted? 

- Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
not if funds are transferred via inter company loans in the way we have seen previously - it is key that that RCD Espanyol now fall under Velocity Sports Ltd (Jersey) the entity that wholly owns the shareholding in Velocity Capital (UK) Limited the entity that owns 82.7% of Burnley FC Holdings Limi...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Could I hazard a guess it's going to be similar to the Burnley deal the difference largely being the money in Burnley's bank is now a share swap. So, Eur65 million borrowed. Eur65 million share swap and potentially another agreement directly with Rastar to pay a top up on an agreed schedule, which ...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
My bad then. I’m sure I read something on here.Chester Perry wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:11 pmNot me
though Textor failed to convince the DNCG that all assets in Eagle Football meant that Lyon were not in financial distress
So can one club fund another under MCO regulations then?
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
What are the annual operating losses CP?Chester Perry wrote: ↑Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:07 pmyou get the impression that Velocity will be picking up the cost of funding operating losses - which has been a factor in RASTAR wanting to exit
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 2:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I'm sure it's not. As we well know, it is permissible for the owners to withdraw £100m from the club and force the club to borrow money and pay swingeing interest to fund it. If that's legal to the extent they have already done it, then it is certainly legal to extend it. I'm sure they have a way t...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:58 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
There are long term concerns over multi club ownership, but distraction from the job at hand is certainly my short term concern. Hopefully that at least will prove unfounded. To be fair on this, a transaction of this nature will have taken months to conclude, so will have been going on all year pro...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I think hugely de-risked is a bit OTT but it looks a bit more sensible now as a business proposition. Yes, perhaps a generous adjective to use, absent the facts. If ALK had achieved the £150m rumoured to have been raised, plus acquired the Chinese as part of the investor base, I would say that’s a ...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I won’t quote all of your post Pete, but I would say overall we are hugely de-risked with another club in the group and a broader investor base (Chinese). That’s even aside from the assumption that they’ve raise capital given CP’s post that Pace’s holding had reduced. I also think one potential end ...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 10:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
True, but let’s imagine a Velocity board meeting 10 years from now. Pace: “Right lads, we’ve been offered £400m for the club.” Board: “We’re going to make so much money!” (A quote they’ve already used on camera I might add) Pace: “Steady on boys. I think we should do the right thing and leave £100m...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:58 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
To the point further up about 'supporting' Espanyol (an alien concept to me, a Burnley fan, who frankly couldn't care less about any other club), just an immediate thought on my mind... Playing devils advocate, if the two clubs are entirely managed separately and not reliant upon each others succes...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
You’re absolutely right. Many a true word spoken in jest. My trouble is, I just don’t trust them. And I probably am bias against them and their actions. I didn’t like the leveraged buyout, I don’t like the MCO. I want the very best for my club and they are not it. I feel like the majority of fans h...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
The initial articles already talk of high quality loan signings from BFC to Espanyol. Do we really think those loans are going to be at full market value? If you do, the best I can say is you’re incredibly naive. On this point, I don’t think it’s naive to expect the opposite, where inflated loan fe...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
The biggest difference is that they are the 9th biggest club in Spain by attendance last season whereas were were the 14th biggest in the Championship. This is exactly why we’ll be the ‘lead’ club Pete: Football is much bigger business in England than it is in Spain and clubs therefore pay much mor...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Is there a list of football clubs where the owners don't want to make money ? Obviously Dale Vince would be on it but I am not sure many would want to follow his method. The last owner claimed to be a Burnley fan and yet he was in it to make money. They all do. The only way you avoid it is fan owne...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Of course Alan Pace is benefiting financially. What do you think he's in this for? And of course he doesn't want Burnley to fail. Nobody said that he does. I agree with all of this. Basically interests are aligned because Alan and his shareholders will want to benefit financially which will only ha...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Can you think of one reason why he would invest in any football club other than making money? Nope. That’s the problem with any business man owning any football club. I don’t think anything has changed from yesterday to today, or last decade to this, in that respect though. Personally I think all f...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Presumably restricted in what he can say until the regulatory hurdles are passed?randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:52 pmWonder if we'll hear anything from Mr Pace explaining things ? All the news seems to be coming from Spain.
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I think Burnley will remain the priority to ALK so long as we are in the Premier League due to the money that generates. The issue is when (not if) we drop out of it again. If we are not financially supported at that point in time as the priority entity, bouncing back at the first opportunity may n...
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
I wondered that. That is either a very well informed piece or a case of putting several pieces of the jigsaw together quite badly.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:06 pmI think the guy who wrote the article and seen Alan Pace linked to Kortrijk and ran with it again
- Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 671
- Views: 37112