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by nil_desperandum
Wed Aug 13, 2025 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup 2nd Round Draw
Replies: 74
Views: 6511

Re: League Cup 2nd Round Draw

Probably he wouldn't. On the other hand, would he want to send a message to the players that they are going to spend all season struggling and playing a midweek match against a lower league team is too tough for them? Yes, but my post was relating (at the time), to someone wanting us to play Rovers...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup 2nd Round Draw
Replies: 74
Views: 6511

Re: League Cup 2nd Round Draw

Focus on the PL? We have 11 matches to play in the next 3 months. I doubt that any of our players will be in need of rest after that schedule. You could look at it that way, but do you really think that Scott P would want another tough match and to play his best team in the same week that we play S...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup 2nd Round Draw
Replies: 74
Views: 6511

Re: League Cup 2nd Round Draw

I never attend a game 'expecting' anything but I do go 'hoping' for a good performance/ victory. A win at Preston on both occasions last season was always possible and certainly not a 'ridiculous' notion. Not sure why you replied to me. I was responding to the poster who wants us to play Rovers bec...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup 2nd Round Draw
Replies: 74
Views: 6511

Re: League Cup 2nd Round Draw

I had the misfortune of working with loads of band wagon jumpers in the nineties when Walker was throwing his money around,for me the more times we can beat them the better. Did you expect us to beat PNE in the cup last year? Assuming we would win is ridiculous. Against almost anyone else Scott Par...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup 2nd Round Draw
Replies: 74
Views: 6511

Re: League Cup 2nd Round Draw

winsomeyen wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 2:58 pm
Bastards at home
Why, just why?
Surely with the tough fixtures we have coming up, the last thing we need is that sort of distraction?
And just imagine the outcry on here if Parker were to focus on the PL - as he should, and a much weakened team were to collapse as we did at PNE last year.
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 1:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage
Replies: 53
Views: 3282

Re: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage

Just parked up at Boundary Mill
At the kiosk - in the window there, there’s a large board - about a metre high- with coloured pictures of all the ice creams
You can read it easily at +10 yards distance, and the prices are clear
A cone or tub is £1.50 or £2 with a flake.
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage
Replies: 53
Views: 3282

Re: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage

GetIntoEm wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:49 pm
Have you been to this van? It's fairly clear what the prices are, they are not misleading anyone.
Walk past frequently.
I disagree
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage
Replies: 53
Views: 3282

Re: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage

GetIntoEm wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:43 pm
Why though? It's sufficient in a restaurant or a cafe

I don't think I've ever seen an ice cream van put a board out with prices on
No one has mentioned putting a board out I don’t think.
There’s usually quite a prominent coloured display in the window showing pictures.
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage
Replies: 53
Views: 3282

Re: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage

The prices are displayed on the side of the van, seems to be current theme to order what you want and then complain when you don't like the price. People suggested a board with prices on, people would still claim they didn't see it, or how can they say no to little Tommy Sounds like a you problem r...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage
Replies: 53
Views: 3282

Re: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage

It came across as if you were trying to apportion blame elsewhere rather than silly people not carrying basic price checks. The children would likely be accompanied by parents & I'm not all together too sure that the older kids of this generation would be inclined if it was a choice between a straw...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 9:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage
Replies: 53
Views: 3282

Re: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage

Surely it boils down to common sense consumer led if you can't see the prices or are unsure it's down to you to find that out before committing to the purchase. It's a strange concept some of us seem to have in my view on this board where people are perceived as having no control over things & are ...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage
Replies: 53
Views: 3282

Re: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage

I'm not sure what people want to happen. Everyone seems to complain about it, it's a private enterprise that has paid for a pitch. They could charge a tenner a lolly if they wanted. Nobody, including the council can dictate their prices. It's free enterprise. Surely if the enterprise has obtained a...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Announcer Vs Lazio
Replies: 108
Views: 5218

Re: Announcer Vs Lazio

That's another thing he hasn't mastered...the use of a microphone Did you get in the ground ok? Yes I did thanks We had screenshots of tickets and simply passed the mobile back and forth through the turnstile Saw lots of people with children doing this Didn’t seem to work for the family in front of...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Announcer Vs Lazio
Replies: 108
Views: 5218

Re: Announcer Vs Lazio

Row x wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:10 pm
I wasn't there yesterday, but on league games it's a different bloke who does the scores from the studio.
He was walking down the middle of the pitch with microphone in hand - shouting into it.
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Announcer Vs Lazio
Replies: 108
Views: 5218

Re: Announcer Vs Lazio

The guy is a complete clown To crown it all yesterday, after the game ended he made a big feature of announcing WBA 1 Rovers 0, which pleased us. It felt like it was a big moment for him.When we got back to the car they were still playing and WBA had had a player sent off. You can’t announce a final...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage
Replies: 53
Views: 3282

Re: Annual Burnley ice cream outrage

mikeS wrote:
Sun Aug 10, 2025 3:05 pm
The Rotunda can't sell ice cream according to this.
https://burnley.gov.uk/wp-content/uploa ... .11.22.pdf
That link is 2022
I’m led to believe they can’t sell ice cream - but can’t confirm
by nil_desperandum
Sat Aug 09, 2025 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: THE SUPER CLARETS vs Lazio ~ Match Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 11265

Re: THE SUPER CLARETS vs Lazio ~ Match Thread

Desperately need a right sided centre half and a midfielder capable of scoring a few goals. I though our right sided centre half was a level above most of the rest. It was Ekdal who looked the weakest link in what was actually a pretty well organised and solid back 3 / 5. There was a huge differenc...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lazio tickets ...
Replies: 80
Views: 7245

Re: Lazio tickets ...

I wasn’t asking you to answer to me, I was trying to fully understand what your issue was and maybe suggest a solution What is it you’ve downloaded to your PC) I’m taking a risk here in assuming it’s to a PC) If it’s a QR code that should still be printable Hi, I take your point about the QR code. ...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lazio tickets ...
Replies: 80
Views: 7245

Re: Lazio tickets ...

I assumed you had a smartphone as you said you download the ticket If you don’t have a printer to print it I’m not sure why you’d have downloaded it in the first place then I shouldn't have to answer to you, but, as you ask, as for some other events, (including some away games) I get someone else t...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Aug 09, 2025 12:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lazio tickets ...
Replies: 80
Views: 7245

Re: Lazio tickets ...

Well over 90% of the adult population has one, so it's not a wild assumption to make What's the ticket been downloaded to? That's really not the point though is it? There are many reasons why someone may either choose not to have one, or not happen to have one at a given time. If 10% of adults don'...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Aug 09, 2025 11:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lazio tickets ...
Replies: 80
Views: 7245

Re: Lazio tickets ...

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Aug 09, 2025 10:30 am
Why do you need to print it?

Use the ticket you’ve downloaded to your phone by scanning the QR code
Why assume everyone has a smartphone?
by nil_desperandum
Sat Aug 09, 2025 9:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lazio tickets ...
Replies: 80
Views: 7245

Re: Lazio tickets ...

Leisure wrote:
Sat Aug 09, 2025 7:29 am
Don't think print at home is an option. Did your email confirmation not contain a download option right at the end of it?
Yes I have downloaded it but you can’t print that can you?
by nil_desperandum
Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lazio tickets ...
Replies: 80
Views: 7245

Re: Lazio tickets ...

Just booked onine. So to be clear: There's no way you can print at home?? Not going to be very easy for me to get there before 2.30 to get club to print ticket, so either I'll have to go down first thing in the morning to get my ticket printed or turn up at about 2.50 and most likely miss the kick-o...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Aug 08, 2025 5:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Experienced goalkeeper Dúbravka signs in
Replies: 85
Views: 6047

Re: ARTICLE: Experienced goalkeeper Dúbravka signs in

Reminds me of when we signed Tony Waiters. How? Tony Waiters retired - having had a very successful career - in 1967. His most recent club had been Blackpool who were not a top club. In 1970 our first choice - Peter Mellor - got injured and somewhat surprisingly we brought Waiters out of retirement...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Aug 07, 2025 6:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hartman
Replies: 73
Views: 4665

Re: Hartman

Have we actually signed him ? This post makes it sound as though he s a Burnley player but I cannot find a specific post on him or the signing, Seriously? Only been with us for 6 weeks and featured in all our pre- season. Article from June 26th: https://www.uptheclarets.com/clarets-sign-dutch-full-...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Aug 06, 2025 7:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hartman
Replies: 73
Views: 4665

Re: Hartman

There are really only two types of players: Those on an upward trajectory and those who are on a downward trajectory. Kyle Walker would come into the latter category, but because he has come from such a high level he is still a major upgrade on what we have had. He will not however be sold at a prof...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Aug 04, 2025 3:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

We have number 1 and 2 in the world. I wouldn't swap Duckett for anyone. Our opening partnerships average higher than ever. Wicketkeeper who had a poor test averaged 50 before the game. We are far stronger than the aussies in batting. I like Travis Head though. I hope that your optimism isn’t mispl...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

But we have a better batting line up then them which doesn't happen often, so you have a chance. Not much to choose between 2 relatively poor batting sides (by historic test standards I mean) They have Smith, Head and Labuschagne who are likely to score well. Others capable of contributing. We have...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 03, 2025 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

Gunfury wrote:
Sun Aug 03, 2025 5:11 pm
To be fair,this series deserves going right down to the wire,it’s been a cracker
Spot on.
It will be fitting if Woakes has to come out at the non-striker's end with the scores level and we run a single to win.
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 03, 2025 6:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

So you play that way to 111 and then you should change and play more defensive , gets a nick playing defensive and your shouting why change the way your playing . But it's not a binary choice between those two extremes. It was a very balanced and mature innings for the most part - until he reached ...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Aug 03, 2025 4:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

tbh - I found the Lords test to be the most engrossing when batters had to be more circumspect and England's scoring rate was around 3 an over. There's way more to high quality Test match cricket than fast scoring. Brook is a brilliant batter, but if he were to be just a little more measured - at ti...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

My only surprise is he’s even worse than I thought he was going to be in this test. Re: Overton Sort of feel sorry for him He’s bowled less than 20 overs in red ball cricket all summer He has taken 2 wickets for 110, and has had just 2 innings averaging 9. It’s therefore beyond belief that the sele...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Aug 01, 2025 9:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:24 am
Really struggling to see what their obsession with picking Overton is about. Is it because he can bat a bit?
Plays for Surrey?
by nil_desperandum
Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

The injury to Woakes brings into serious question the baffling decision to select Overton. (Was it because he plays for Surrey?) Up until yesterday he’d bowled less than 20 overs in red ball cricket this season, with just 2 wickets at 55 each. He bowled 16 overs yesterday and will no doubt be requir...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England India 5th test
Replies: 264
Views: 8851

Re: England India 5th test

Wonder if we are going to bat first this time? Seems the sensible decision based on the quick turnaround You would really think that India might actually win the toss this time - having now lost 14 in a row! - and I would expect them to put us in the field. Having said that it's a new bowling attac...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 28, 2025 10:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England v India 4th Test
Replies: 160
Views: 6970

Re: England v India 4th Test

Jamie Overton has been added to the squad. Unfortunately this underlines the current dearth of high quality seam / pace bowlers in county cricket. Is Overton a good bowler? Yes, but is he any better than Carse, Tongue, Potts, Cook, Woakes etc. Our best pace bowler this summer has been Stokes, who w...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jul 24, 2025 9:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rishabh Pant
Replies: 13
Views: 1693

Re: Rishabh Pant

Rishabh Pant injured again is he going to sit in the dressing room till he’s needed to bat or is his injury genuine this time. I haven’t seen his. “Injury” yet so it’s just scepticism creeping in. Also hope the umpires in this test show more backbone than in the last test but i think not because to...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Shubman Gill
Replies: 21
Views: 2686

Re: Shubman Gill

Pant sustained a genuine injury but was able to bat, but didn't field
Bashir sustained a genuine injury but was able to bowl, but didn't field.
That's the rules nowadays. Seems pretty reasonable to me, but even if you disagree you can't argue that one side got preferential treatment.
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Manchester city
Replies: 29
Views: 3803

Re: Manchester city

Yes fair enough but there is such a huge difference there..... Your post says won 29 lost 21 Yet in the other post it says won 1 lost 25. :? Hi, Mea culpa! I checked another source and there was a clear disparity, so I went back to my original source and discovered my error. It's 21 draws and 52 de...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Manchester city
Replies: 29
Views: 3803

Re: Manchester city

Targetman wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 9:35 am
Yes fair enough but there is such a huge difference there.....

Your post says won 29 lost 21

Yet in the other post it says won 1 lost 25. :?
I agree.
When I get chance I'll look into it
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Manchester city
Replies: 29
Views: 3803

Re: Manchester city

Targetman wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:13 pm
These stats dont tally with the stats a few posts further down from yours?
They might if the other stats include cup matches? .... but I can only post the info that I found online giving our record of wins etc against every team weve ever played
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Manchester city
Replies: 29
Views: 3803

Re: Manchester city

Just checked the stats:
Our record against Man City is pretty good
Played 102
Won 29
Drawn 52
Lost 21
We’ve had some heavy defeats in recent seasons, but I can remember many good performances and results against them
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Half Time
Replies: 24
Views: 2557

Re: Half Time

Do you think that if the duration of half time was longer than the current 15 minutes, those interested in half time refreshments wouldn't feel the need to leave their seat before the whistle? It's only an opinion of course, but I'm pretty sure that the same people who are prepared to miss several ...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Half Time
Replies: 24
Views: 2557

Re: Half Time

You say 10 minutes is fine, yet so many people leave their seat well before the half time whistle, why? Presumably because they are more interested in half-time refreshments than watching the game. Like the majority I'm there to watch the game and don't want to miss any of it. I don't leave early e...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Half Time
Replies: 24
Views: 2557

Re: Half Time

10 minutes was great.
Back in the day a 7.30 evening kick-off ended at 9.10 which suited everyone - especially those who had to be at school the following day.
Of course we didn't have VAR and all the other various delaying tactics that we have today, so "added time" was usually minimal.
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England vs India Third test
Replies: 315
Views: 14300

Re: England vs India Third test

Them comments last night now looking a bit daft In what sense? the fact that we bowl well and win the game doesn't change the fact that a lot of our batters got out in a very poor manner yesterday. If you're 3-0 down at half time due to 3 goalkeeping howlers, but win the game 4-3 it doesn't alter t...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Osmajic
Replies: 267
Views: 37429

Re: Osmajic

,The FA know this obnoxious t**t is guilty,they just haven't the balls to do anything about it. Or, more likely: The FA know this obnoxious t**t is guilty, but are struggling to find sufficient evidence to make a strong enough case. Surely, if they thought he was innocent they would have held a qui...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE:Clarets bring in Kyle Walker from Manchester City
Replies: 151
Views: 12284

Re: ARTICLE:Clarets bring in Kyle Walker from Manchester City

The fastest wingers in the league will have him on toast but because he's such a a big name I think a false level of expectation will be unhelpful. I would imagine that he is still faster than Roberts, but why the assumption that he will play as a "traditional" right back? He could well extend his ...
by nil_desperandum
Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2025/26: Burnley v Lazio – Ticket Information
Replies: 36
Views: 2139

Re: 2025/26: Burnley v Lazio – Ticket Information

JJJ wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:59 pm
There’s a printable copy of the ticket to be sent out with the e-ticket
Thanks. That’s helpful when you intend taking children on
by nil_desperandum
Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2025/26: Burnley v Lazio – Ticket Information
Replies: 36
Views: 2139

Re: 2025/26: Burnley v Lazio – Ticket Information

martin_p wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:55 am
3. You haven’t linked the article ;)

https://www.uptheclarets.com/2025-26-b ... nformation
So- to clarify: is entry only with a smartphone, or can you print off?