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- Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:16 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: A meeting with the C.O.O of the Shadow Independent Football Regulator
- Replies: 6
- Views: 724
Re: A meeting with the C.O.O of the Shadow Independent Football Regulator
It does sound like the IFR will have genuine powers including removing owners, directors and senior staff from football clubs if they are threatening the existence of a club. Hopefully this will avoid the situations like at Bury and Morecambe.
- Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:46 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: A meeting with the C.O.O of the Shadow Independent Football Regulator
- Replies: 6
- Views: 724
Re: A meeting with the C.O.O of the Shadow Independent Football Regulator
That’s very positive news from BFCISA. I believe that the Football Regulator is putting fan engagement right at the forefront of their mandate in order to protect football clubs as community assets and preserve their unique heritage.
- Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
I'm sure its going to have something to do with the new build they are doing in that corner .... it will be for home fans , not away fans That was my thoughts anyway Yes I have no doubt that the intention is to build facilities in the corner of the BL and CFS but as far as I’m aware the planning pe...
- Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
If you've got an idea that solves the problem for everyone id share it with everyone and the club, cos I can't think of one that would please everyone Can I ask you why you think the club have switched the CFS around with very little notice and without providing an explanation? What do you think is...
- Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
Personally i think there is a fair bit of forward planning going on. Will now be easier to close the Cricket field stand for redevelopment and put a reduced number of away supporters in the north lower..... then they may never move back to the new stand. Tbdg That’s an interesting thought which I h...
- Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2025/26: Manchester United v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 321
- Views: 15022
Re: 2025/26: Manchester United v Burnley – Ticket Information
Ok thanksclaret wizard wrote: ↑Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:26 pmThey should be sent tomorrow according to Leisure further up the thread.
- Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
I’ve asked this same question a couple of times before but has anyone seen anything from the club explaining why it has been necessary to switch home and away fans in the CFS? We have been given some corporate waffle about enhancing experiences but what is the real reason? Does anyone outside of the...
- Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:27 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2025/26: Manchester United v Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 321
- Views: 15022
Re: 2025/26: Manchester United v Burnley – Ticket Information
Has anyone received their email with their Manchester United ticket yet? It does say 4 days before they would be issued but I seem to remember that Spurs tickets arrived on the Wednesday rather than the Tuesday.
- Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
- Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
For those people who are so keen to dismiss others genuine concerns regarding the significant changes we saw yesterday, can you provide the actual reasons for swapping fans around in the Cricket Field Stand that has resulted in the closure of Ormerod Yard as a means of entry and exit for Burnley fa...
- Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:52 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
For those people who are so keen to dismiss others genuine concerns regarding the significant changes we saw yesterday, can you provide the actual reasons for swapping fans around in the Cricket Field Stand that has resulted in the closure of Ormerod Yard as a means of entry and exit for Burnley fan...
- Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Match Day Experience
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3465
Re: Match Day Experience
I couldn’t care a monkeys about the so called “Match Day Experience” . All I want to do is drive there, park up, have a leisurely walk to the ground down the route I’ve always taken before this latest fiasco, watch the game, walk back along the same route that I came in on, get to the car and have ...
- Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have you joined Burnley FC ISA yet?
- Replies: 156
- Views: 7795
Re: Have you joined Burnley FC ISA yet?
Also, as many people are asking what are these supposed benefits and experience enhancements that I was supposed to have been enjoying today, does anyone actually know?
- Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have you joined Burnley FC ISA yet?
- Replies: 156
- Views: 7795
Re: Have you joined Burnley FC ISA yet?
There were clearly Burnley fans who either didn’t know or were purposely trying their luck who were coming down Ormerod Yard and were being let through the temporary fencing by the Police. Also why was it necessary to park the Sunderland team buses in the middle of the exit route at full time surely...
- Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
- Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
Isn't this what the ISA is for? It’s because of these sort of issues that a passionate and dedicated group of volunteers have setup BFCISA. They have already made contact with the club and are looking forward to regular opportunities to put any issues raised by its members to the club. As always wi...
- Wed Aug 20, 2025 7:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
This is quite devastating for me. I have osteoarthritis in both knees in various stages. I have followed Burnley since the days of Jimmy McIlroy and presently pay for my son, daughter, grandson and granddaughter's tickets. My wife has always dropped me off at the cricket field path and picked me up...
- Wed Aug 20, 2025 6:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC ISA recently held initial dialogue with the club.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1725
Re: Burnley FC ISA recently held initial dialogue with the club.
I hope the meeting on 5 August was the first of many meetings with the club for BFCISA. We are all aware of the numerous issues that we face including ticketing, seat moves, access issues etc, and hopefully BFCISA can represent us all. Is it just that as a Society we are more aware of these issues a...
- Wed Aug 20, 2025 5:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Access for home fans
- Replies: 661
- Views: 28309
Re: Access for home fans
I get the impression that maybe one or two decisions have had a domino effect of consequences that haven’t been properly thought through. I’m thinking of wanting to move the tunnel necessitated the need to swap home and away fans to be either side of the tunnel plus wanting to make the players coach...
- Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:36 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2025/26: Burnley v Derby County – Cup Ticket Information
- Replies: 109
- Views: 5421
Re: 2025/26: Burnley v Derby County – Cup Ticket Information
I also got that message about no longer on sale You have to login and then go to your account and then manage tickets to get it. It was well hidden!! Thanks. I must be getting a bit slow or maybe it’s a stupid way to sell tickets! Of course it could be that I have missed the full and clear instruct...
- Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:10 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2025/26: Burnley v Derby County – Cup Ticket Information
- Replies: 109
- Views: 5421
Re: 2025/26: Burnley v Derby County – Cup Ticket Information
Currently showing as no longer on sale! I’m assuming this is a temporary glitch.
- Mon Aug 18, 2025 6:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Espanyol
- Replies: 131
- Views: 8150
Re: Espanyol
So the same as every business owner and worker in the world they want to make money ? You keep holding them to account though..... on the internet I’ve already done more than holding them to account on the internet I’ve joined BFCISA who I know number membership in the hundreds and growing rapidly....
- Mon Aug 18, 2025 4:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Espanyol
- Replies: 131
- Views: 8150
Re: Espanyol
We’ve been through the last owners motives on numerous threads. My point is that no one should be shocked or surprised by our current majority shareholders turning up at Espanyol or any other club they acquire as their only motive is to make money.
- Mon Aug 18, 2025 4:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Espanyol
- Replies: 131
- Views: 8150
Re: Espanyol
Of the 92 clubs in the 4 divisions how many are owned by a supporter of that club ? You’ve totally missed my point. I’m not saying that as supporters we can do anything at all about who owns the club currently but we can hold them to task. There is one thing for certain about ‘successful’ people an...
- Mon Aug 18, 2025 3:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Espanyol
- Replies: 131
- Views: 8150
Re: Espanyol
Whether you are pro or anti ALK surely everyone can agree that ALK through VSL are in the business of buying and managing football clubs to make a profit for the shareholders of those organisations. They are not fans of either Burnley or Espanyol, they don't feel the way we do or Espanyol fans do ab...
- Wed Aug 06, 2025 12:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have you joined Burnley FC ISA yet?
- Replies: 156
- Views: 7795
Re: Have you joined Burnley FC ISA yet?
What's the £5 ISA member fee going towards ? It goes towards the administration costs of running such a group. There are things like membership software, and other administrative licences, events to organise that may have venue costs etc. I know for a fact that everyone involved is a volunteer and ...
- Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premium Memberships
- Replies: 136
- Views: 5524
Re: Premium Memberships
Correction - Just found this on the Club website - Clarets Premium (£150) Tailored for life long supporters hitting almost every home fixture, big away matches included. Enhanced away-ticket access (5% pre-release) and near-guaranteed seat supply. Not only are Clarets Premium memberships ‘tailored ...
- Fri Aug 01, 2025 8:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Luton v Wimbledon
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1904
Re: Luton v Wimbledon
Does anyone know why the Wimbledon number 31(?) doesn’t have a shirt sponsor on his shirt? Is it just an omission or is there a deeper meaning?
- Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket field stand
- Replies: 888
- Views: 57466
Re: Cricket field stand
As far as I'm aware they haven't moved the dressing rooms but now the home DR will be closer to the tunnel. I understand that the main motivation for the move is to reduce the distance that officials and players have to travel from the tunnel to the dug-outs. Possibly influenced by the trouble afte...
- Fri Aug 01, 2025 5:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket field stand
- Replies: 888
- Views: 57466
Re: Cricket field stand
The tunnel, wherever in the stadium it is located, should absolutely only be surrounded by home supporters. Every opportunity to gain that extra home advantage has to be taken, so quite rightly if moving the tunnel to the opposite corner will help towards this, then the home supporters have to be o...
- Fri Aug 01, 2025 4:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket field stand
- Replies: 888
- Views: 57466
Re: Cricket field stand
I may have missed this but have the club actually stated why it is necessary to swap the home and away fans around in the CFS? I appreciate there is planning permission being sought for a balcony development and i guess other catering facilities between the BL and CFS but you have to think these wil...
- Thu Jul 31, 2025 6:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have you joined Burnley FC ISA yet?
- Replies: 156
- Views: 7795
Re: Have you joined Burnley FC ISA yet?
Holding back until you have regular meetings with senior members of the football club board and have representation on the Fan Advisory board. Hi Elizabeth, as I understand it the FAB consists of 22 or 23 people that are hand picked by the club based on criteria unknown or at least quite vague. Des...
- Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Lazio in Virtual Reality
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3091
Re: Burnley v Lazio in Virtual Reality
Whilst i can't see VR matches being of use to me unless our ownership decide to relocate my North Stand Upper seat to the US, does anyone know if this maybe a way around the Saturday 3pm blackout on league games. Does having a VR match being shown live constitutue a broadcast?
- Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket field stand
- Replies: 888
- Views: 57466
Re: Cricket field stand
I hope so too. I guess you know the point I was trying to make about the FAB.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:29 pmBloody hell, i hope you dont make a habit of breaking an NDA![]()
- Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket field stand
- Replies: 888
- Views: 57466
Re: Cricket field stand
The clubs corporate nonsense mentions that the FAB were positive towards these changes, but the posted minutes don’t mention what their response was. Are there any FAB members posting on this message board? If so, why other than you have signed an NDA have you not informed the wider fan base? Don’t ...
- Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket field stand
- Replies: 888
- Views: 57466
Re: Cricket field stand
The press release talks about planning permission, perhaps that had something to do with when it could be communicated I wouldn't be happy if I was one being moved i have to say I know you have openly said that you try to give ALK the benefit of the doubt but even you can see that this is one man’s...
- Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cricket field stand
- Replies: 888
- Views: 57466
Re: Cricket field stand
If all these changes are to enhance the fan experience then why leave it until a few weeks before the first home game to tell the fan base? I’ll tell you why, Mr Pace doesn’t like being told ‘No’ and if the club had genuinely consulted with fan base many months ago on this he wouldn’t have been able...
- Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:59 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Update on Burnley's Finances.
- Replies: 196
- Views: 10433
Re: Update on Burnley's Finances.
Except that Alan Pace and ALK have not invested in Burnley FC. Burnley FC has received nothing from Alan Pace or ALK, or for that matter from JJ Watt or any other supposed investor. ALK have taken £100m out of Burnley FC. They have put no money in. This is how I understand it too which is why I bec...
- Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hurstwood Reservoir Undulating Hills
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1827
Re: Hurstwood Reservoir Undulating Hills
It was filled in years ago and as you say there are currently houses being built there And don’t I know it. They are building right behind my house and thereby completely blocking our fantastic view of Pendle. I know it sounds a bit NIMBY but it’s really rather depressing to have had an uninterrupt...
- Tue Jul 22, 2025 10:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Update on Burnley's Finances.
- Replies: 196
- Views: 10433
Re: Update on Burnley's Finances.
I think what this thread, the takeover thread and the many others that have appeared over the tenure of ALK, shows is that we as ‘stakeholders’ in our club are left guessing as to the actual finances, the strategies and the motivations of our current major shareholders. The lack of information and t...
- Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Update on Burnley's Finances.
- Replies: 196
- Views: 10433
Re: Update on Burnley's Finances.
It just all feels a little bit "Wealdstone Raider offering out Usyk". Pick your battles No one is suggesting that any group of fans can take on ALK in some sort of battle for ownership but maybe an organised group that represents the views of its members can get a constructive dialogue going with t...
- Mon Jul 21, 2025 3:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Update on Burnley's Finances.
- Replies: 196
- Views: 10433
Re: Update on Burnley's Finances.
Dunno. If we are we'll start again. Doubt anyone will die. Bit of perspective might be needed at times. And do you think it would be acceptable for a small group of money men to run our club, with all its history, it’s standing in English football and the hopes and dreams of thousands of fans over ...
- Mon Jul 21, 2025 3:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Update on Burnley's Finances.
- Replies: 196
- Views: 10433
Re: Update on Burnley's Finances.
Every day you'll get someone posting with "worry" or "concern" on here. I just don't get it. There's much more important things to worry about in life. You are absolutely correct yet here we are discussing it. Football clubs are like no other business, we wouldn’t be discussing the state of Sainsbu...
- Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Update on Burnley's Finances.
- Replies: 196
- Views: 10433
Re: Update on Burnley's Finances.
How ‘debt ridden’ would the club be? I’d imagine the forced repayments in the Championship, along with their prudent debt management, would align assets with debt. If CP is correct and last seasons (Champ) debt was around £70m, I’d imagine they’d be forced to halve that again this season (imagining...
- Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Update on Burnley's Finances.
- Replies: 196
- Views: 10433
Re: Update on Burnley's Finances.
What factual evidence would you be looking for, exactly? And of course, there cannot be any ‘proof’ to your second question, as it hasn’t happened, and no one is involved in ALK’s boardroom meetings (I’ve probably just answered my own question back to you, for you). What we can speculate upon is ho...
- Mon Jul 21, 2025 1:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Update on Burnley's Finances.
- Replies: 196
- Views: 10433
Re: Update on Burnley's Finances.
On the face of it the ALK strategy of using debt, with the repayments, large interest payments and ALL the risk lumped on the club not ALK, is absolutely a great way to buy something you can’t otherwise afford. Remember the debts and interest being paid by the club is for the purchase of their perso...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 2025/26: Tottenham Hotspur V Burnley – Ticket Information
- Replies: 403
- Views: 17904
Re: 2025/26: Tottenham Hotspur V Burnley – Ticket Information
The club surely know when they have to let each of the other clubs know about the required allocation so it can’t be beyond the wit of a Premier League club to request fans indicate just before that date if they are planning on attending. Whilst the method is open to some issues surely it would help...
- Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bee Hole End Podcast feature about Burnley FC ISA
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1039
Re: Bee Hole End Podcast feature about Burnley FC ISA
I listened to the excellent From the Bee Hole End podcast today and found the guys from BFCISA to be engaging and articulate. In these times where fans, especially match going fans, are being marginalised right across elite football it’s great to have an association that looks out for the interests ...
- Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
- Replies: 681
- Views: 41848
Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
The latest numbers beting quoted are interesting deal value of EUR 130m - with EUR 65m upfront and EUR 65m of shares in Velocity Sports Limited (Jersey) giving RASTAR 16.45% of VSL (which values VSL at EUR 395m) There are reports of an opportunity for Velocity to buy back those shares for a premium...
- Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:30 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Heckenhurst Avenue , Burnley
- Replies: 41
- Views: 5290
Re: Heckenhurst Avenue , Burnley
If they keep allowing the building of houses in and around Worsthorne ( including right behind my house) the whole area will have to be deemed a mega city. 😟 I suppose on the bright side the football club might attract an oil state takeover and we too can become a soulless sports washing exercise in...