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by Orangebernard
Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2025/26: Tottenham Hotspur V Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 46
Views: 1350

Re: 2025/26: Tottenham Hotspur V Burnley – Ticket Information

The club surely know when they have to let each of the other clubs know about the required allocation so it can’t be beyond the wit of a Premier League club to request fans indicate just before that date if they are planning on attending. Whilst the method is open to some issues surely it would help...
by Orangebernard
Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bee Hole End Podcast feature about Burnley FC ISA
Replies: 7
Views: 499

Re: Bee Hole End Podcast feature about Burnley FC ISA

I listened to the excellent From the Bee Hole End podcast today and found the guys from BFCISA to be engaging and articulate. In these times where fans, especially match going fans, are being marginalised right across elite football it’s great to have an association that looks out for the interests ...
by Orangebernard
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37119

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

The latest numbers beting quoted are interesting deal value of EUR 130m - with EUR 65m upfront and EUR 65m of shares in Velocity Sports Limited (Jersey) giving RASTAR 16.45% of VSL (which values VSL at EUR 395m) There are reports of an opportunity for Velocity to buy back those shares for a premium...
by Orangebernard
Wed Jul 02, 2025 7:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heckenhurst Avenue , Burnley
Replies: 41
Views: 5084

Re: Heckenhurst Avenue , Burnley

If they keep allowing the building of houses in and around Worsthorne ( including right behind my house) the whole area will have to be deemed a mega city. 😟 I suppose on the bright side the football club might attract an oil state takeover and we too can become a soulless sports washing exercise in...
by Orangebernard
Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?
Replies: 671
Views: 37119

Re: Pace/ALK set to buy Espanyol?

I was totally against the Pace/ALK takeover initially cos of major financial doubts that could ruin BFC. I am now more than satisfied as to how everything has worked out and have complete trust in Alan Pace and the board to move Burnley FC forwards. AP's reactions during each and every game he atte...
by Orangebernard
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Applications open to join Fan Advisory Board
Replies: 56
Views: 2956

Re: Applications open to join Fan Advisory Board

Hypothetically, this new group think differently about an issue than the other groups, which way do those involved in both jump? Like I said I wish them all well. The names of the volunteers that have established the ISA are listed on their website and are acting as interim officers until an AGM wh...
by Orangebernard
Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Applications open to join Fan Advisory Board
Replies: 56
Views: 2956

Re: Applications open to join Fan Advisory Board

Row x wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:05 pm
Yet people pay to join a non independent, "independent" supporters group, who may,or may not have an input.
Hi Row x, what is it that makes you certain that the ISA are not independent of the football club and how do you believe they are linked?
by Orangebernard
Tue Jun 03, 2025 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets
Replies: 199
Views: 17748

Re: Season tickets

These types of issues are exactly the type that need to be brought to the attention of the newly launched Burnley FC Independent Supporters Association. Hopefully they will be able to put them to the club in a constructive way to try to avoid these issues occurring next season.
by Orangebernard
Wed May 28, 2025 10:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley FC Independent Supporters Association launches
Replies: 100
Views: 6539

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley FC Independent Supporters Association launches

An independent supporters association is a great idea and one we should all get behind. I’ve joined and looking forward to being part of community of like minded Burnley fans.
by Orangebernard
Sat May 17, 2025 1:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

It is now a mixed situation - by late August 2022 the £65m debt taken out to fund the takeover had its balance halved - though by mid November of that same year it was replaced by a loan for £39.7m which appears to have rolled up early redemption penalties (for the previous loan ) and possibly fees...
by Orangebernard
Sat May 17, 2025 11:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Thanks again to all contributors to this thread, every Burnley fan should take the time to read it and make an effort to understand the financial situation our club is in. I have a few questions that i'd like peoples opinons on: 1). Are the current club debts still entirely made up of the orignal lo...
by Orangebernard
Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Accy Clarets to Coventry City - Sat 5th April ko 3pm
Replies: 140
Views: 6430

Re: Accy Clarets to Coventry City - Sat 5th April ko 3pm

If there’s a spare seat can I book From Belvedere Road please? Name is Alister.
by Orangebernard
Wed May 15, 2024 2:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Thanks CP and ClaretPete, it is much clearer to me now, although you've just confirmed that it is highly unlikely that the club will see a single penny returned and all the intercompany debt will be squared away as a paper exercise. It is worrying that ALK are playing financial roulette with our clu...
by Orangebernard
Wed May 15, 2024 8:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 13595
Views: 1584932

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

As always I'm following the discussions on this thread with interest but I'd like to get people's view on the £124.1m debt owed to BF&A and Burnley FC Holdings by who knows which of the ALK group companies. The accounts and above comments discuss the possibility of the debt being paid back by means ...
by Orangebernard
Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Thanks everyone for your contributions to this thread, it's helping me to get to grips with the off-field tactics whilst trying to decipher the on-field tactics. A few things have jumped out to me which i think we all already knew but reading them on here it heightens my sense of risk: 1. Aggi menti...
by Orangebernard
Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

The reason I stated the ownership and the strategies of the club feels like an experiment is because of the lack of transparency and the obvious attempts to obfuscate the off-field business of the club plus the completely baffling transfer window of last summer amongst other more minor things such a...
by Orangebernard
Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Thanks everyone for your contributions so far as it's always good to get other people's views on what is an emotional subject. Like all football fans spending time, effort, a huge amount of money and worrying endlessly about 11 blokes kicking a ball around makes no sense whatsoever. I'm old enough t...
by Orangebernard
Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

How many clubs are run by 'football' people. They all hire people to see to that side of the game. I think ALK have put their money where their mouth is. Foster, Odobert, Koleosho, O'shea.......we have bought many players that will make a profit. Its the team on the pitch that doesn't work, and tha...
by Orangebernard
Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Hi Orangebernard, welcome to the board. I started going on t'Turf in 1967, so I guess maybe 1 or 2 seasons before you. I hope you, like me, enjoyed the 5-1 victory of Leeds in the season Leeds won the league. I guess you, like me, remember the sales of Ralph Coates, Martin Dobson, Dave Thomas, to m...
by Orangebernard
Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

It’s absolutely possible to make money - look at Brentford there’s talk of them going for 400m+ even if ALK get 200m for Burnley they have only put in 10-15m so they will walk away with a HUGE bag. Sustain us in the prem with lucrative TV deals, build a squad of value and upgrade the infrastructure...
by Orangebernard
Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Correct, thats how it should be. Bring in new talent with potential to enhance the team and if they are successful sell them on and repeat. I cannot think of another reason other than the need to service debts and possibly pay some sort of return to the smaller investors in VSL why you would flood t...
by Orangebernard
Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

I agree, in theory a club of our size cannot compete without player trading being the main source of income (TV money is entirely dependent on which division we are in) but what i may have failed to get across is that i don't think that ALK are the right people to make it work. They are not football...
by Orangebernard
Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 17157

ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Firstly, apologies for the long post, but I wonder if the current on-field situation is entirely due to ALK’s goal which is primarily to make a huge amount of money for a small handful of individuals which I believe cannot succeed at a club like Burnley. Are we witnessing a failing experiment? Whils...
by Orangebernard
Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From The Bee Hole End - live this Thursday
Replies: 34
Views: 4156

Re: From The Bee Hole End - live this Thursday

Well lets hope that your hearing is as poor as your sense of humour!
by Orangebernard
Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From The Bee Hole End - live this Thursday
Replies: 34
Views: 4156

Re: From The Bee Hole End - live this Thursday

I wonder if its time to start to focus a little more on ALK and their influence on the unbalanced recruitment in the summer transfer window plus whether it is true that VK's own analytics company identifies players for recruitment and if so is this influencing team selections? I'd also like to hear ...
by Orangebernard
Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pike Hill - Water gone and Power out
Replies: 17
Views: 3440

Re: Pike Hill - Water gone and Power out

It looks as though there was a gas explosion on Brownside Road just before the bridge and an electricity sub station explosion on Buttermere Ave. I think it’s safe to say these events are the reason for loss of power and water.