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by ClaretPete001
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End podcast…
Replies: 155
Views: 9007

Re: From the Bee Hole End podcast…

If you were to ask 100 football fans to name the top 6 teams...how many do you think would name Sunderland? Most football fans know what is meant by a top 6 club, you seem to have a view that's different to most. No bet then? I'm not betting on a misquote. I said Sunderland are 5th, which is a fact...
by ClaretPete001
Fri Oct 03, 2025 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End podcast…
Replies: 155
Views: 9007

Re: From the Bee Hole End podcast…

I take it you're having some kind of joke? You think Sunderland are a top 6 side? I'll bet you any amount, for charity they dont finish in the top 6...I await you response....but sober up first please. I thought I was sober but after this conversation I'm not sure whether I'm not only drunk but dru...
by ClaretPete001
Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End podcast…
Replies: 155
Views: 9007

Re: From the Bee Hole End podcast…

United, for their flaws under this manager, have the player quality to blow teams away, at home in particular. We had a poor first half, but excellent second, and really should have left with a point - make no mistakes. However, their record at Old Trafford v newly promoted teams in the past 10 sea...
by ClaretPete001
Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End podcast…
Replies: 155
Views: 9007

Re: From the Bee Hole End podcast…

Completely misunderstood Our season will rest on results against teams outside the top 6 or 7 We've played 2 of those teams, Sunderland and Forest...6pts available...we got 4......hence 4 from 6!! Continue that form against similar teams we're fine Are you taking the P*ss? Sunderland are 5th. The o...
by ClaretPete001
Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End podcast…
Replies: 155
Views: 9007

Re: From the Bee Hole End podcast…

So many different ways of looking at it, but you can't say the season starts now If we average 4pt from 6 against teams out of the top 6 or 7 we would stay up....we've already done that, so the season has well and truly started. You said: 'If we average 4pt from 6 against teams out of the top 6 or ...
by ClaretPete001
Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End podcast…
Replies: 155
Views: 9007

Re: From the Bee Hole End podcast…

So many different ways of looking at it, but you can't say the season starts now If we average 4pt from 6 against teams out of the top 6 or 7 we would stay up....we've already done that, so the season has well and truly started. We haven't played 6 games against teams in the top 6 or 7. United are ...
by ClaretPete001
Thu Oct 02, 2025 5:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: From the Bee Hole End podcast…
Replies: 155
Views: 9007

Re: From the Bee Hole End podcast…

Like the Podcast. It's just a serious conversation about the club. I think Daz makes a lot of sense. Two years ago as far as I recall 98 per cent on here thought we would stay up and many continued singing the same song long after it was obvious to someone from Darwen we were way short. Chris also m...
by ClaretPete001
Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Average Player Ratings to end of September
Replies: 17
Views: 990

Re: Average Player Ratings to end of September

I think Foster has done a good job but I don't expect his goal ratio to improve much beyond 1 in 5 by the end of the season. The problem is that there are no obviously easier games outside of Wolves. Watched Brentford and they look a decent side. Villa will improve and the other two promoted side ha...
by ClaretPete001
Sun Sep 28, 2025 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Manchester City v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 36
Views: 4562

Re: Manchester City v Burnley - Player Ratings

Watched on the Telly. Bit depressing after having watched Brentford de-construct Man United and, of course later, Sunderland beat Forest away and Leeds being a whisker away from 3 points. I think, firstly, if Ugochukwu is fit and available should be starting and we should be playing 4-5-1. The back ...
by ClaretPete001
Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace to take part in Fan Forum event at Burnley College
Replies: 19
Views: 1719

Re: Alan Pace to take part in Fan Forum event at Burnley College

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:52 pm
It’s a requirement
Oh ok I didn't realise club chairmen had to meet the fans.
by ClaretPete001
Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Royal Dyche heading to Kansas
Replies: 24
Views: 3154

Re: Royal Dyche heading to Kansas

Fantastic a real credit to the town albeit I've never been in the Royal Dyche it's a pleasure to walk to Turf with all the bars and the murals.
by ClaretPete001
Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace to take part in Fan Forum event at Burnley College
Replies: 19
Views: 1719

Re: Alan Pace to take part in Fan Forum event at Burnley College

If people on here went to the forum and asked difficult questions he would just stop doing them and prevent other fans who want to interact with him from being able to do so. I don't think Chester has called him a criminal rather I would guess he has commented on the issue of not lodging accounts at...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The "Hillsborough" Law
Replies: 6
Views: 903

Re: The "Hillsborough" Law

It's a much needed huge step forward. As you watch politician after politician lie and obfuscate continuously why would anyone even consider that their peers in the Police, the NHS and other state bodies are any different? I have met some leaders with integrity but mostly they are venal self interes...
by ClaretPete001
Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings
Replies: 69
Views: 5659

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

Superb performance exactly what I have been looking for in a Parker PL side. Discipline, press, energy and with a threat on the break. Florentino was superb when he came on. Really happy with that but as Alex Ferguson said to Cantona when he Kung fu kicked a Palace fan ‘Hannibal you can’t go around ...
by ClaretPete001
Fri Sep 05, 2025 4:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: holiday to italy!
Replies: 71
Views: 3154

Re: holiday to italy!

Italians enjoy a good sing song so if you are in a bar they appreciate the old spanish classic Volare but of course with the Italian equivalent Vaffanculo. A lusty rendition will win you some friends...!
by ClaretPete001
Fri Sep 05, 2025 4:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Atmosphere at Messi's last game in Argentina
Replies: 26
Views: 1902

Re: Atmosphere at Messi's last game in Argentina

Argentinians make a lot of noise but they aren't spectacularly tuneful. They should stick to the staples 'Who are ya Who are etc' covers a multitude of singing sins. Messi. Maradonna , Pele and Ray Deakin clearly vie for the best players ever. I was once destined for greatness but after a scintillat...
by ClaretPete001
Thu Sep 04, 2025 5:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bronwhill confirms departure
Replies: 388
Views: 46551

Re: Bronwhill confirms departure

Saudi is much more liberal than it was. We have arrived at where we are today over centuries. Saudi is a very very young country. Some would say our evolution is now at a stage which will lead to our extinction. Moses said “Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to t...
by ClaretPete001
Thu Sep 04, 2025 4:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Danny Murphy V11 group and HMRC
Replies: 34
Views: 4259

Re: Danny Murphy V11 group and HMRC

Personally, I feel quite sorry for them. When senior figures like Howards Wilkinson are giving advice what 20 odd year old wouldn't listen?

The fact that they arguably get paid too much doesn't entitle people to help themselves to their money.
by ClaretPete001
Thu Sep 04, 2025 4:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: West Ham Fans issue letter of no confidence
Replies: 27
Views: 2460

Re: West Ham Fans issue letter of no confidence

Some would absolutely love for us to be doing the same. You would have to be an idiot not to be concerned about the level of debt at the club but I don't get the sense that anyone wants to write a letter like that to the board. I can't think why West Ham fans wanted to get rid of Moyes so badly so ...
by ClaretPete001
Wed Sep 03, 2025 5:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Transfer window out of 10
Replies: 82
Views: 5946

Re: Transfer window out of 10

But it’s easy to point towards the signings that don’t work whilst forgetting the ones that do. Overall in the season we signed Amdouni, Tresor and Ramsey we made an overall profit. We made £50m+ on Odobert and Trafford combined. FWIW I still think Ramsey will sell for a profit and I think we’ll ge...
by ClaretPete001
Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Danny Murphy V11 group and HMRC
Replies: 34
Views: 4259

Re: Danny Murphy V11 group and HMRC

Putting that much money in a pension fund would be silly. They'd still only have 12,500 tax allowance like the rest of us. They'd just be paying a fortune in tax. They could get a much better return investing it, only spread it about rather than bet the lot on a 3 legged horse. As far as I know Pen...
by ClaretPete001
Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Transfer window out of 10
Replies: 82
Views: 5946

Re: Transfer window out of 10

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:01 pm
Does that really require explanation?
Given the number of times I've had to explain it clearly it does....!
by ClaretPete001
Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Transfer window out of 10
Replies: 82
Views: 5946

Re: Transfer window out of 10

Tresor Amdouni and Ramsey were not signed this window, we made an overall profit from players signed in the same window as those 3. So they can all leave for £1 each. Benson cost about 2m and was an integral part of a promotion winning season that would’ve earned the club £135m. I don’t think anyon...
by ClaretPete001
Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Transfer window out of 10
Replies: 82
Views: 5946

Re: Transfer window out of 10

Would the auditors really be wondering about someone who cost less than £2m being out on loan ? Not one auditor looks at individual transfers. Will the same auditors ignore the profit made on others we have sold and the assets we have now signed and focus on a 20 yr old being out on loan ? The answ...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Sep 02, 2025 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Danny Murphy V11 group and HMRC
Replies: 34
Views: 4259

Re: Danny Murphy V11 group and HMRC

It's almost as though none of us have ever been young and daft.

And we all deserve to be duped out of our money....!
by ClaretPete001
Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Beehole podcast - Why Florentino Luis could save Burnley's season
Replies: 14
Views: 2836

Re: Beehole podcast - Why Florentino Luis could save Burnley's season

I think that’s a very harsh assessment, tbh. Played well after the Spurs opener against what should be a Top 6/8 side with a new manager, and gave United a real scare in the second half to the point they were celebrating at the end like they won the Champions League final. We have a host of new pla...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Transfer window out of 10
Replies: 82
Views: 5946

Re: Transfer window out of 10

Not really, I'm asking which players we are struggling to sell I don't know which players we are struggling to sell rather that as the club's finance team I might ponder why Obafemi and Benson are still on the books. I might think that as an intangible asset Tresor has not made much of a contributi...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What now for James Trafford?
Replies: 124
Views: 8864

Re: What now for James Trafford?

I don't think his cause has been helped much by Spurs and Brighton second goals
by ClaretPete001
Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Transfer window out of 10
Replies: 82
Views: 5946

Re: Transfer window out of 10

Row x wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:13 pm
Trafford was this seasons big sale

Which others are you referring to?
We've sold Eur35 million worth of players of which Trafford was Eur31 million and we've spent around Eur125 million.

But yes what other players am I referring to? You answer your own question really.
by ClaretPete001
Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Beehole podcast - Why Florentino Luis could save Burnley's season
Replies: 14
Views: 2836

Re: Beehole podcast - Why Florentino Luis could save Burnley's season

Truly awful in defence against Spurs and for me the United game had relegation written all over it. Shocking defending, playing far too high up the pitch and naive decision making, which cost us the game. At Old Trafford we had three midfield players who seemingly had no idea how to defend. In fact,...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Sep 02, 2025 1:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Transfer window out of 10
Replies: 82
Views: 5946

Re: Transfer window out of 10

9 out of 10 if you are a Burnley fan. I think in Burnley terms it looks as good as it can get unless you are a buddhist Burnley fan and think nirvana is a reasonable aspiration in which case you will be clanging your bells sniffing your joss sticks and lamenting the loss of an imposing Centre Back. ...
by ClaretPete001
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Clarets bring in midfielder Florentino
Replies: 45
Views: 5228

Re: ARTICLE: Clarets bring in midfielder Florentino

On paper a great signing. The defending has been shocking in the two away games and first half on Saturday was pre 4-4-2 VK. If we can get Cullen and Florentino in a double pivot with Ugochukwu to drive forward and Tchauouna/ Anthony making up the five we should have a powerful, pacy running midfiel...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 743
Views: 42678

Re: Access for home fans

It has been clearly indicated that the intention is to develop the corner of BL and CF stands with a two storey building presumably with bars etc in. That could not be done with away fans turnstiles in that location. As for access, it is now much easier to get up HP way without the away coaches par...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 743
Views: 42678

Re: Access for home fans

I honestly don't get it. The club changed people's seating arrangements without notice, which will likely prove to have exactly the opposite affect of those cited by the club. In addition, it does cause problems for people who are older, disabled or have other issues, which mean they are vulnerable ...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ekdal performance
Replies: 58
Views: 6322

Re: Ekdal performance

I am a bit of a doubter but was wrong based upon that performance. Great to be proven wrong really.
by ClaretPete001
Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 743
Views: 42678

Re: Access for home fans

I think what naffs people off is the whining before they've even experienced something. As shows with this thread, there were absolutely no problems at the game. People claiming people are going to die etc is massively over the top. I understand there'll be an odd person it affects if they are stru...
by ClaretPete001
Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What do we need
Replies: 198
Views: 10334

Re: What do we need

It was a back 5. JBL's average position was actually further back than Sonne's vs Spurs. Notice the same CB positions for Esteve, Ekdal and Walker. Screenshot_20250825_163856_Sofascore.jpgScreenshot_20250825_163950_Sofascore.jpg Unless the squad numbers have confounded me Oliver Sonne appears to be...
by ClaretPete001
Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What do we need
Replies: 198
Views: 10334

Re: What do we need

I think it was a 4, and looked much better for it but JBL did fill in to create a 5 at times but I think overall it looked much more solid than last week albeit the opposition wasn't the same quality.
by ClaretPete001
Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Sunderland - Player Ratings
Replies: 101
Views: 30948

Re: Burnley v Sunderland - Player Ratings

SP obviously listened to the wise advice on here and went for a back 4 - kind of - because JBL seemed to fill in to make it a back five at times, which possibly affected his game a bit . Ekdal played really well. It would have been interesting to see how this team would have fared against Spurs. Gre...
by ClaretPete001
Mon Aug 25, 2025 11:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Access for home fans
Replies: 743
Views: 42678

Re: Access for home fans

Surely, it is incredibly lacking in self awareness to come on here and moan about other fans moaning. It's a football forum I would honestly say about the best that I've come across. It's not ruined by adverts or by literally hundreds of snarky comments or really excessive foul language. The wider f...
by ClaretPete001
Fri Aug 22, 2025 7:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team News vs The Mackems
Replies: 64
Views: 7285

Re: Team News vs The Mackems

In the spirit of getting our best available players on the pitch I'd expect a back four this weekend. The highlights don't suggest Sonne did too much wrong (and two of the goals came down our left, and none down the right) but I'm not sure he's close to our best XI players and for that reason alone...
by ClaretPete001
Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team News vs The Mackems
Replies: 64
Views: 7285

Re: Team News vs The Mackems

I'd stick to four the centre back 3 was all over the place against Spurs albeit I think two of them came out quite well in the player ratings, which makes you wonder whether Burnley fans need a 'pitch this way' notice when attending away games. Don't really know the new players and who is properly f...
by ClaretPete001
Thu Aug 21, 2025 9:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC ISA recently held initial dialogue with the club.
Replies: 12
Views: 1817

Re: Burnley FC ISA recently held initial dialogue with the club.

I'm sure you know all this but you aren't dealing with Bob the Butcher from Burnley - local boy done - good but a different beast entirely. I would focus on building relationships with the media and local democracy as well as the club. You will get swamped with minutiae from fans but if you want to ...
by ClaretPete001
Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What do you reckon to the Isak situation ?
Replies: 55
Views: 2742

Re: What do you reckon to the Isak situation ?

He just needs to put a transfer request in to the club. Of course, that means he's effectively ending his contract and not eligible for any bonuses tied to length of service. So he won't. Instead he's trying to manipulate the club publicly into letting him go without any financial penalty to himsel...
by ClaretPete001
Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What do you reckon to the Isak situation ?
Replies: 55
Views: 2742

Re: What do you reckon to the Isak situation ?

I think it affects the economy of football when players behave like that and while it's ok at Newcastle - it can also affect clubs like us. We are clearly honouring the contracts of a number of players who likely as not we would like to sell, which stops us from making more signings to secure a posi...
by ClaretPete001
Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Walker is the day one winner
Replies: 7
Views: 670

Re: ARTICLE: Walker is the day one winner

I think that's a bit of star gazing. I thought he had a difficult afternoon alongside Sonne and Ekdal but what do I know....
by ClaretPete001
Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: End the season now for me.
Replies: 46
Views: 4404

Re: End the season now for me.

It really doesn’t make a difference if Tarkowski’s hands were by his side in a ‘natural position’ as he made a conscious effort to move his arms, along with the rest of his body towards the ball. Tarkowski’s failed attempt at blocking the ball with his chest prevented Leeds a shot on target. I don’...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: End the season now for me.
Replies: 46
Views: 4404

Re: End the season now for me.

Wokingclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:04 pm
But it really shouldn't have been
I meant the one on Anthony.
by ClaretPete001
Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: End the season now for me.
Replies: 46
Views: 4404

Re: End the season now for me.

It was a penalty...
by ClaretPete001
Tue Aug 19, 2025 10:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Can anyone recommend a trading site or service
Replies: 18
Views: 1503

Re: Can anyone recommend a trading site or service

Vanguard gives you the option of investing in lifestyle products based upon risk. Good starting place